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Is there a thread that explains the rep system? All this time on the forum I haven't really paid any attention to it.
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(05-12-2019 04:56 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  
(05-12-2019 04:28 AM)scotian Wrote:  
(05-12-2019 03:47 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  Slightly related. I recently checked that I have a neutral rep from a friend(perhaps ex-friend) after a meetup. We had a bit of a falling out.

It's my only meetup rep so far and it makes me look really bad. Is there a good way to explain at least my side of the story(ie by replying to the rep or similar)? I know being in Europe now(instead of NZ), I will have more meetups in the future and (assuming I'm not actually an ungrateful/useless/horrible person) I will have positive reps to balance it out. However I've felt that his rep painted an incomplete and inaccurate picture of what happened. I want people to be able to see both sides of the story and make their own minds up- I feel I have nothing to hide.

So why didn’t you thank him for buying you drinks and paying your club entry you ungrateful prick?

Honestly at the time it slipped my mind. I thanked him afterward when he brought it up that I didn't. He even said at the time he knew I was grateful just that I was bad at expressing it.

Realistically though I am speculating he is just disliking me for other reasons. Because that particular issue was resolved before we parted ways.

If people are curious and/or it's appropriate I will give further context to the situation. But I don't want to derail a whole thread about it or start forum drama, just reply to the rep at that specific instance.

We want all the details bro come on, tell us what really happened.

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(05-12-2019 05:01 AM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  Is there a thread that explains the rep system? All this time on the forum I haven't really paid any attention to it.

It's fairly simple, the rep system is based on the application
of the laws of thermodynamics into a non-Euclidian space-time
continium, any dumbass can get it really, here it is summarized
for you into a few essential equations:

[Image: 8-Figure2-1.png]

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(05-12-2019 05:01 AM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  Is there a thread that explains the rep system? All this time on the forum I haven't really paid any attention to it.

The principle behind the rep system is explained in this short video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_dDCPQoMB4
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(05-12-2019 12:06 PM)911 Wrote:  
(05-12-2019 05:01 AM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  Is there a thread that explains the rep system? All this time on the forum I haven't really paid any attention to it.

It's fairly simple, the rep system is based on the application
of the laws of thermodynamics into a non-Euclidian space-time
continium, any dumbass can get it really, here it is summarized
for you into a few essential equations:

[Image: 8-Figure2-1.png]

A derivative work really...
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(05-12-2019 05:03 AM)scotian Wrote:  
(05-12-2019 04:56 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  
(05-12-2019 04:28 AM)scotian Wrote:  
(05-12-2019 03:47 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  Slightly related. I recently checked that I have a neutral rep from a friend(perhaps ex-friend) after a meetup. We had a bit of a falling out.

It's my only meetup rep so far and it makes me look really bad. Is there a good way to explain at least my side of the story(ie by replying to the rep or similar)? I know being in Europe now(instead of NZ), I will have more meetups in the future and (assuming I'm not actually an ungrateful/useless/horrible person) I will have positive reps to balance it out. However I've felt that his rep painted an incomplete and inaccurate picture of what happened. I want people to be able to see both sides of the story and make their own minds up- I feel I have nothing to hide.

So why didn’t you thank him for buying you drinks and paying your club entry you ungrateful prick?

Honestly at the time it slipped my mind. I thanked him afterward when he brought it up that I didn't. He even said at the time he knew I was grateful just that I was bad at expressing it.

Realistically though I am speculating he is just disliking me for other reasons. Because that particular issue was resolved before we parted ways.

If people are curious and/or it's appropriate I will give further context to the situation. But I don't want to derail a whole thread about it or start forum drama, just reply to the rep at that specific instance.

We want all the details bro come on, tell us what really happened.

Especially we'd be curious to know how you convinced the poor Mister SoyBoy No More to pay you, not only club entrance, drinks and meals, but also accommodation!? Banana What's your secret, man, are you a tall sexy blonde gal with huge boobs or some? How do you convince people you've just met to pay you tons of shit, and not even bother to thank'em? Asking for a friend... Blush
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I offered The Catalyst a free phone consultation with me where I'd pick up the tab for the call, but he didn't get back to me.

The guy is on the spectrum so don't be too hard on him.

I'm one of the few people that repped him, because at the time, I could see he was really putting the work in.

But if he won't interact when people are reaching out to him - that only goes one way...


On another note, rep points are nice, I won't deny it, but they aren't the whole story. One day I'll have a look to see who repped me. So far, I have no idea. The idea being that I don't feel pressure to rep back.

Beyond criticism. Beyond praise.


I think The Catalyst is a decent enough guy. But I've gone long past the point of trying to force my help and words of wisdom on people.

I do understand as well, however, how some people have problems communicating with others.

A little grace goes a long way.

I can see that he has a lot of respect for this forum, but maybe doesn't display that respect in the best way possible. He's a bit 'awkward'.

I'm happy to cut him a bit of slack as to such time when he can get down to the meat and potatoes of it all.

But yes, it's difficult when people don't engage.
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(05-12-2019 06:23 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  A little grace goes a long way.

A sign of the times, I guess. I hear that the U.S. Army must now teach its recruits a class on basic moral behavior. If someone does me a favor, I always make it a point to thank someone during the act itself and then again upon completion of the act. That is a very basic courtesy.

If someone does not have basic manners, they need to make a concerted effort to master this aspect of their life (which they should have learned as a child) before mastering most anything else. I fully acknowledge it may not be fully their fault (because of poor parenting or a personality issue) but fixing that issue needs to be a priority in their life. For the sake of both themselves and others.
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The 'neutral' rep is confusing. I suppose its the SJW version of a negative rep? lol

If I felt neutral about someone, why would I go click on the neutral rep button, and take the time to leave a neutral comment.

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^ They'd be negatives if people were able to do them.
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(05-12-2019 05:47 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Especially we'd be curious to know how you convinced the poor Mister SoyBoy No More to pay you, not only club entrance, drinks and meals, but also accommodation!? Banana What's your secret, man, are you a tall sexy blonde gal with huge boobs or some? How do you convince people you've just met to pay you tons of shit, and not even bother to thank'em? Asking for a friend... Blush

You know, as a Swede it's pretty much in the blood to be obnoxiously naive and getting all cucked over by a foreigner nowadays. Lesson learned though! Dodgy

Jokes aside, I don't want to start any more drama here and turn this into some he said, she said bullshit or Dragan 2.0. I'll just try to explain my point of view and that will be it.

I've talked with The Catalyst for years since he's a very intelligent, analytical and red pilled guy. He's definitely got good sides to him. But I stand by my words and I can't recommend anyone to meet up with him in his current version of himself. First he has to grow up, get his shit together and learn some manners.

Just read his thread about moving to the otherside of the world (Budapest) with about NZD$ 600 in cash, no visa or job and thinking he would be able to understand Hungarian from scratch.
Who even does something like that? I believe he's like a child in some ways.

I've been investing a lot of my own time to help him find jobs outside of New Zealand, trying to be supportive because he has told me for a long time that he haven't enjoyed living at home with parents in New Zealand.
I was also there back when he was depressed and talked to him for hours.

We eventually met up almost two weeks ago and I ended up paying everything while he shows close to no appreciation. Yes, he didn't even say "thank you" once during 3 days.
Then I also get to hear him moan and complain about New Zealand, kiwis and family members non stop while taking zero self-ownership for his own life situation.
It's their fault he dropped out of high school, haven't been able to ever find a real job, has been living at home all his life until now and is poor and so on.

Same kind of male hamstering from him in this thread about women:

(12-20-2018 05:00 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  Now that it's established I'm not imagining things nor is it my problem, the question/topic becomes WHY do Anglo girls ...

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-71687.html

I've seen zero introspection, self-reflection and self-responsibility from him and he talks in a way as if he was entitled to others people's money. Instead of politely begging me and a common friend for money he has just said shit like "heads up in case I need money in 2 weeks", which I think is very rude. He just came off as a spoiled kid who thinks he's the one doing people a favour if they give money to him.

Afterwards, I told him my honest opinion about the weekend and he tells me I'm right and that he's actually broken and needs to fix himself. So I decide to lower my guard and act forgiving until I later hear him telling common friends of ours some bullshit that I just like to AMOG guys and that I'm like the kiwis that he hates so much instead of perhaps mentioning one of the many nice things I did for him.

Then he tried to act if this is just a problem with our personalities being so different.

Some guys gave up on him ages ago and found him toxic with his negative energy just constant moaning and I've been told by others that I've been an idiot for investing so much in this guy. Guess they were right.

That's all I will say about that.
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My perspective(bold). I'm not sure if he's intentionally trying to be manipulative or what. It's like his view of the events is just so different from mine that I'm not sure what to think.

(05-13-2019 06:49 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  Just read his thread about moving to the otherside of the world (Budapest) with about NZD$ 600 in cash, no visa or job and thinking he would be able to understand Hungarian from scratch.
Who even does something like that? I believe he's like a child in some ways.

Yes, that was dumb. And a very impulsive move. And after I did that I have said that on many occasions.


I've been investing a lot of my own time to help him find jobs outside of New Zealand, trying to be supportive because he has told me for a long time that he haven't enjoyed living at home with parents in New Zealand.
I was also there back when he was depressed and talked to him for hours.

One of the reasons we did the meetup in the first place was I thought he was one of the few friends I had while in NZ.

We eventually met up almost two weeks ago and I ended up paying everything while he shows close to no appreciation. Yes, he didn't even say "thank you" once during 3 days.

He brought this up about me not saying thanks on the third day. He said he knew I was appreciative/grateful but that I should actually say thanks. So after that I said thanks twice. I wonder where he got the "never said thank you once" from, given I said it twice. How did it go from the reality of I said thanks twice to "not once" is beyond me. I didn't have the social skills to know how to/how often people want me to thank them.

Also btw I actually had my own accommodation(while he tried to act as if he paid for mine) and was busy looking for work, so I was making big sacrifices to try to meet up as well. I have a limited amount of time to sort my situation also. I could've sorted my shifts and looked for even more work and sorted out my visa. If I had known how much of a sacrifice he thought he was making I wouldn't have done the meetup in the first place, because I was making sacrifices also.


Then I also get to hear him moan and complain about New Zealand, kiwis and family members non stop while taking zero self-ownership for his own life situation.
It's their fault he dropped out of high school, haven't been able to ever find a real job, has been living at home all his life until now and is poor and so on.

Same kind of male hamstering from him in this thread about women:

(12-20-2018 05:00 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  Now that it's established I'm not imagining things nor is it my problem, the question/topic becomes WHY do Anglo girls ...

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-71687.html

Half of what I said were answers to his questions. I know in at least one instance he actually asked about my parents, and if I remember right, he asked about NZ also. Why would you ask things you don't want the answers to? To most people I would never bring up those kinds of topics anyway. I'm not insistent on sticking to the topic so you had plenty of time to change the topic.

Also I have said things were my fault. I don't know why he didn't manage to hear it though.


I've seen zero introspection, self-reflection and self-responsibility from him and he talks in a way as if he was entitled to others people's money. Instead of politely begging me and a common friend for money he has just said shit like "heads up in case I need money in 2 weeks", which I think is very rude. He just came off as a spoiled kid who thinks he's the one doing people a favour if they give money to him.

Way I went about asking for a loan was wrong. Again on social skills, I should've known what was the best way. Also on context: he has said before to set up a paypal etc in case I lost my credit/debit card, then people in the group can wire money in an emergency. My intention was to try to pre-empt the possible emergency in the future. So I wouldn't spring it out of the blue.

I realise it's a big ask to loan me, which is why I said to them I will pay them back 10x in the future when I have my financial situation sorted. Of course this is overpaying but I thought we were good friends and I did indeed need the money in this situation.

Also I have said on a minimum of 2-3 separate occasions my faults, problems, and what I did wrong. But I suppose it's easier to build a narrative that I am a horrible person that he "has seen zero introspection, self-reflection and self-responsibility".


Afterwards, I told him my honest opinion about the weekend and he tells me I'm right and that he's actually broken and needs to fix himself. So I decide to lower my guard and act forgiving until I later hear him telling common friends of ours some bullshit that I just like to AMOG guys and that I'm like the kiwis that he hates so much instead of perhaps mentioning one of the many nice things I did for him.

Then he tried to act if this is just a problem with our personalities being so different.

I never said he was like the Kiwis as such. The specific thing I said was he needed everything to be "positive" just like Kiwis did. From my perspective the two statements were very different because that was not the(main) reason why I disliked Kiwis.

Also I did mention what happened, which included the nice things. But again to build the narrative that I am some sort of horrible ungrateful monster.

On personality differences: people with different personalities don't agree that what I say is complaining. That is why I said it was personality differences. It's not as if I tried to bring people down with my conversation. Rather it was in context of the conversation. We didn't have to bring up "negative" conversation.

Also he does like to AMOG guys. I can give examples. Am I not supposed to bring that up?

I did say I was broken and I need to fix myself. He implies I went back on it, which I never did.


Some guys gave up on him ages ago and found him toxic with his negative energy just constant moaning and I've been told by others that I've been an idiot for investing so much in this guy. Guess they were right.

I have been much less toxic than I was a few years ago. It's a clever attempt though. ("Everyone dislikes Catalyst, I was being nice")

This was just to give the context on my POV. In New Zealand I didn't really have friends so it is easy to give the impression I am such a toxic, negative person. But over here I have a bunch of friends.

I also felt he has done a lot of things deserving of a neutral rep too. Part of the reason we were in the group in the first place was we found it difficult to make friends/getting into social circles with "normies". So from my perspective it was implicit we took each others' flaws into account.

There were many concessions I made to make the meetup run smoothly that weren't said.

-He brought a girl over from tinder. I went out of my way to not have them see me in the other room. Even though I was bored out of my mind, and didn't know if he still wanted to hang out the next day, knowing once I left it was a big distance to come back.

-I normally don't like clubbing and late nights. But I kept the vibe up even as he admitted it was a shitty night. I was having fun and was trying to make it fun for both of us.

-To meet him I had to travel 1-2km from my hostel. I did that because I thought we were good friends. It would've been much easier if I didn't go. He offered to pay for food(and clubbing/drinks) because I explicitly said I was low on funds. But it's not as if I got ahead financially out of it because I could've worked and bought my own food.

-I had brought over a glass bottle specifically from New Zealand, and obviously had been using it for a few weeks. He left it to throw away in the hotel room when he checked out, and this was a hotel which had horrible service, so there wasn't a realistic way to get it back. I let it slide and didn't make a big deal out of it, but to me it was so obvious I wanted to keep the bottle otherwise I would've thrown it away weeks ago...

Plus there were a few things which were just shocking to me. I didn't bring it up earlier because I didn't want to go scorched earth or start drama. But right now it appears that I am the guy who made the meetup horrible.

-Without asking, going through my phone's messages. I didn't really bother because of Bike Cuck logic. As in, I don't care that he's seeing my stuff so if he really wants to see it go right ahead. But then he messaged some rude stuff to someone he didn't know on my account. There were a couple people who knew both of us so he could have easily done his "prank" to someone who knew he would pull that shit. That was someone who was considering lending me money. I melted down in part because I was so stressed about my financial situation that he would just put the loan in jeopardy.

-Before the meetup, he would constantly say stuff like Catalyst won't get a girl in Europe, he won't get a job, he won't make it, etc etc. When I asked him what his deal was, said "I'm just being "realistic"". I don't get demoralised easily so I didn't see it as as much of a red flag as maybe I should've, but it's shocking nonetheless. I thought it was just banter. But given how badly he reacted to my mild statements(that it killed his vibe for that weekend, etc) I can only imagine how he would feel if I said similar statements back.

-Related to the AMOG thing. He would constantly have the vibe about how he's the "alpha", the rest of the group were "betas", etc. My perspective was it was a bit of roleplay; he clearly felt much better when he could play the alpha. Then he keeps constantly playing up my "beta" traits. So I'm a good friend, and I do things to make my friends feel better, so I went along with it because he clearly likes it. I don't feel humiliated by things like that, so again it wasn't a big deal. I don't know what to think anymore, since I thought it was a mutual understanding that was the case. So of course I said he likes to AMOG a lot since that is so obvious that that is what he does. In hindsight I will speculate that he wanted to (subconsciously?) humiliate us and he gets off on that. That's why he felt insulted when I said very neutral things about him to the group.
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Sounds like a couple having an arguement
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The autism here is off the charts. This is why so many well repped members are careful with who they meet.

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(05-14-2019 03:12 AM)roberto Wrote:  The autism here is off the charts. This is why so many well repped members are careful with who they meet.

I'm sorry about that. All I can say is I'll try my hardest to keep it under control in future meetups.
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(05-14-2019 02:38 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  My perspective(bold). I'm not sure if he's intentionally trying to be manipulative or what. It's like his view of the events is just so different from mine that I'm not sure what to think.

(05-13-2019 06:49 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  Just read his thread about moving to the otherside of the world (Budapest) with about NZD$ 600 in cash, no visa or job and thinking he would be able to understand Hungarian from scratch.
Who even does something like that? I believe he's like a child in some ways.

Yes, that was dumb. And a very impulsive move. And after I did that I have said that on many occasions.


I've been investing a lot of my own time to help him find jobs outside of New Zealand, trying to be supportive because he has told me for a long time that he haven't enjoyed living at home with parents in New Zealand.
I was also there back when he was depressed and talked to him for hours.

One of the reasons we did the meetup in the first place was I thought he was one of the few friends I had while in NZ.

We eventually met up almost two weeks ago and I ended up paying everything while he shows close to no appreciation. Yes, he didn't even say "thank you" once during 3 days.

He brought this up about me not saying thanks on the third day. He said he knew I was appreciative/grateful but that I should actually say thanks. So after that I said thanks twice. I wonder where he got the "never said thank you once" from, given I said it twice. How did it go from the reality of I said thanks twice to "not once" is beyond me. I didn't have the social skills to know how to/how often people want me to thank them.

Also btw I actually had my own accommodation(while he tried to act as if he paid for mine) and was busy looking for work, so I was making big sacrifices to try to meet up as well. I have a limited amount of time to sort my situation also. I could've sorted my shifts and looked for even more work and sorted out my visa. If I had known how much of a sacrifice he thought he was making I wouldn't have done the meetup in the first place, because I was making sacrifices also.


Then I also get to hear him moan and complain about New Zealand, kiwis and family members non stop while taking zero self-ownership for his own life situation.
It's their fault he dropped out of high school, haven't been able to ever find a real job, has been living at home all his life until now and is poor and so on.

Same kind of male hamstering from him in this thread about women:

(12-20-2018 05:00 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  Now that it's established I'm not imagining things nor is it my problem, the question/topic becomes WHY do Anglo girls ...

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-71687.html

Half of what I said were answers to his questions. I know in at least one instance he actually asked about my parents, and if I remember right, he asked about NZ also. Why would you ask things you don't want the answers to? To most people I would never bring up those kinds of topics anyway. I'm not insistent on sticking to the topic so you had plenty of time to change the topic.

Also I have said things were my fault. I don't know why he didn't manage to hear it though.


I've seen zero introspection, self-reflection and self-responsibility from him and he talks in a way as if he was entitled to others people's money. Instead of politely begging me and a common friend for money he has just said shit like "heads up in case I need money in 2 weeks", which I think is very rude. He just came off as a spoiled kid who thinks he's the one doing people a favour if they give money to him.

Way I went about asking for a loan was wrong. Again on social skills, I should've known what was the best way. Also on context: he has said before to set up a paypal etc in case I lost my credit/debit card, then people in the group can wire money in an emergency. My intention was to try to pre-empt the possible emergency in the future. So I wouldn't spring it out of the blue.

I realise it's a big ask to loan me, which is why I said to them I will pay them back 10x in the future when I have my financial situation sorted. Of course this is overpaying but I thought we were good friends and I did indeed need the money in this situation.

Also I have said on a minimum of 2-3 separate occasions my faults, problems, and what I did wrong. But I suppose it's easier to build a narrative that I am a horrible person that he "has seen zero introspection, self-reflection and self-responsibility".


Afterwards, I told him my honest opinion about the weekend and he tells me I'm right and that he's actually broken and needs to fix himself. So I decide to lower my guard and act forgiving until I later hear him telling common friends of ours some bullshit that I just like to AMOG guys and that I'm like the kiwis that he hates so much instead of perhaps mentioning one of the many nice things I did for him.

Then he tried to act if this is just a problem with our personalities being so different.

I never said he was like the Kiwis as such. The specific thing I said was he needed everything to be "positive" just like Kiwis did. From my perspective the two statements were very different because that was not the(main) reason why I disliked Kiwis.

Also I did mention what happened, which included the nice things. But again to build the narrative that I am some sort of horrible ungrateful monster.

On personality differences: people with different personalities don't agree that what I say is complaining. That is why I said it was personality differences. It's not as if I tried to bring people down with my conversation. Rather it was in context of the conversation. We didn't have to bring up "negative" conversation.

Also he does like to AMOG guys. I can give examples. Am I not supposed to bring that up?

I did say I was broken and I need to fix myself. He implies I went back on it, which I never did.


Some guys gave up on him ages ago and found him toxic with his negative energy just constant moaning and I've been told by others that I've been an idiot for investing so much in this guy. Guess they were right.

I have been much less toxic than I was a few years ago. It's a clever attempt though. ("Everyone dislikes Catalyst, I was being nice")

This was just to give the context on my POV. In New Zealand I didn't really have friends so it is easy to give the impression I am such a toxic, negative person. But over here I have a bunch of friends.

I also felt he has done a lot of things deserving of a neutral rep too. Part of the reason we were in the group in the first place was we found it difficult to make friends/getting into social circles with "normies". So from my perspective it was implicit we took each others' flaws into account.

There were many concessions I made to make the meetup run smoothly that weren't said.

-He brought a girl over from tinder. I went out of my way to not have them see me in the other room. Even though I was bored out of my mind, and didn't know if he still wanted to hang out the next day, knowing once I left it was a big distance to come back.

-I normally don't like clubbing and late nights. But I kept the vibe up even as he admitted it was a shitty night. I was having fun and was trying to make it fun for both of us.

-To meet him I had to travel 1-2km from my hostel. I did that because I thought we were good friends. It would've been much easier if I didn't go. He offered to pay for food(and clubbing/drinks) because I explicitly said I was low on funds. But it's not as if I got ahead financially out of it because I could've worked and bought my own food.

-I had brought over a glass bottle specifically from New Zealand, and obviously had been using it for a few weeks. He left it to throw away in the hotel room when he checked out, and this was a hotel which had horrible service, so there wasn't a realistic way to get it back. I let it slide and didn't make a big deal out of it, but to me it was so obvious I wanted to keep the bottle otherwise I would've thrown it away weeks ago...

Plus there were a few things which were just shocking to me. I didn't bring it up earlier because I didn't want to go scorched earth or start drama. But right now it appears that I am the guy who made the meetup horrible.

-Without asking, going through my phone's messages. I didn't really bother because of Bike Cuck logic. As in, I don't care that he's seeing my stuff so if he really wants to see it go right ahead. But then he messaged some rude stuff to someone he didn't know on my account. There were a couple people who knew both of us so he could have easily done his "prank" to someone who knew he would pull that shit. That was someone who was considering lending me money. I melted down in part because I was so stressed about my financial situation that he would just put the loan in jeopardy.

-Before the meetup, he would constantly say stuff like Catalyst won't get a girl in Europe, he won't get a job, he won't make it, etc etc. When I asked him what his deal was, said "I'm just being "realistic"". I don't get demoralised easily so I didn't see it as as much of a red flag as maybe I should've, but it's shocking nonetheless. I thought it was just banter. But given how badly he reacted to my mild statements(that it killed his vibe for that weekend, etc) I can only imagine how he would feel if I said similar statements back.

-Related to the AMOG thing. He would constantly have the vibe about how he's the "alpha", the rest of the group were "betas", etc. My perspective was it was a bit of roleplay; he clearly felt much better when he could play the alpha. Then he keeps constantly playing up my "beta" traits. So I'm a good friend, and I do things to make my friends feel better, so I went along with it because he clearly likes it. I don't feel humiliated by things like that, so again it wasn't a big deal. I don't know what to think anymore, since I thought it was a mutual understanding that was the case. So of course I said he likes to AMOG a lot since that is so obvious that that is what he does. In hindsight I will speculate that he wanted to (subconsciously?) humiliate us and he gets off on that. That's why he felt insulted when I said very neutral things about him to the group.

You sound like you need a lot more neutral reps. Jesus Christ.

From what I've heard through the grape vine you're also a previously banned member.
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Has there ever been a fight between two RVF members? I’ve had a couple of close calls but just decided to walk away, there’s some legit pricks on this forum. I can deal with nerds, socially awkward weirdos and even guys who focus too much on PUA stuff but guys who are arrogant dick heads and treat people like shit really grind my gears.

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This is incredible in terms of Don King style boxing matchups.

You've got two 5 rep middling post count members having met up IRL and begun an honest-to-God intra-member cage-match.

I want to know what your respective weight divisions are. Pronto!

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(05-14-2019 05:21 AM)scotian Wrote:  Has there ever been a fight between two RVF members? I’ve had a couple of close calls but just decided to walk away, there’s some legit pricks on this forum. I can deal with nerds, socially awkward weirdos and even guys who focus too much on PUA stuff but guys who are arrogant dick heads and treat people like shit really grind my gears.

I vaguely remember something between Kona and a member that he met a long time ago, but I don't recall if it ended in fisticuffs. I can't find the thread.
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That this thread was bumped is such a Godsend. Pure comedy gold.

(07-06-2018 05:14 PM)Repo Wrote:  Investigative footage of a Nola and Dragan meetup:

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I nearly crapped myself when I saw this.

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(05-14-2019 05:21 AM)scotian Wrote:  Has there ever been a fight between two RVF members? I’ve had a couple of close calls but just decided to walk away, there’s some legit pricks on this forum. I can deal with nerds, socially awkward weirdos and even guys who focus too much on PUA stuff but guys who are arrogant dick heads and treat people like shit really grind my gears.

I vaguely remember something between Kona and a member that he met a long time ago, but I don't recall if it ended in fisticuffs. I can't find the thread.

Dream Medicine just sent me the link. Enjoy some forum history.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-47566...pid1023527
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(05-14-2019 02:38 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  -To meet him I had to travel 1-2km from my hostel. I did that because I thought we were good friends. It would've been much easier if I didn't go. He offered to pay for food(and clubbing/drinks) because I explicitly said I was low on funds. But it's not as if I got ahead financially out of it because I could've worked and bought my own food.

Holy shit. You had to travel 1 - 2km??? That's fucking nuts.

How did you do it? Don't tell me you actually did that on foot.

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(05-14-2019 02:38 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  -To meet him I had to travel 1-2km from my hostel. I did that because I thought we were good friends. It would've been much easier if I didn't go. He offered to pay for food(and clubbing/drinks) because I explicitly said I was low on funds. But it's not as if I got ahead financially out of it because I could've worked and bought my own food.

Holy shit. You had to travel 1 - 2km??? That's fucking nuts.

How did you do it? Don't tell me you actually did that on foot.

The Catalyst traveling 1-2km to visit Soy Boy No More:

   

I'll bet that he wore out those hand-shoes on the way there, while also avoiding cars and skateboarders.
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(05-14-2019 09:07 AM)Horus Wrote:  
(05-14-2019 05:21 AM)scotian Wrote:  Has there ever been a fight between two RVF members? I’ve had a couple of close calls but just decided to walk away, there’s some legit pricks on this forum. I can deal with nerds, socially awkward weirdos and even guys who focus too much on PUA stuff but guys who are arrogant dick heads and treat people like shit really grind my gears.

I vaguely remember something between Kona and a member that he met a long time ago, but I don't recall if it ended in fisticuffs. I can't find the thread.

I had a run in with the same guy, he was a total prick and a major loser it was weird how he presented himself on the forum but in real life looked like an AIDS patient with a fentanyl problem. He had other run-ins with other RVF members included one who was taken aside by a bartender in Bogota after drinking with that weirdo, the bartender asked him if he was ok hanging out with him because he looked so sketchy, in fucking Bogota, Colombia!!!

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