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Lawsuit Just Settled: Now Legal To Share Printable-Gun Blueprints for DIY Firearms
The federal government had insisted that Defense Distributed's gun-making data files violated the munitions export rules embedded in the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). Defense Distributed's lawsuit claimed that this censored speech, because the files in question consist of computer code and thus counted as expression. The federal government just settled after five years of litigation.

Defense Distributed also sells computer-controlled milling machine by which a buyer can use gun-making data files to make their own firearm receivers.

Quote:selling a consumer-grade computer-controlled milling machine known as the Ghost Gunner, designed to allow its owner to carve gun parts out of far more durable aluminum.

Defense Distributed has sold roughly 6,000 of the desktop devices to DIY gun enthusiasts across the country, mostly for $1,675 each.

https://www.wired.com/story/a-landmark-l...-diy-guns/


This video, featuring a Wired Magazine soy boy, shows how the Ghost Gunner works to produce a firearm receiver at home.



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Good luck keeping guns out of the hands of incels now.

Although the ruling doesn't allow all guns.

Quote:The Department of Justice's surprising settlement, confirmed in court documents earlier this month, essentially surrenders to that argument. It promises to change the export control rules surrounding any firearm below .50 caliber—with a few exceptions like fully automatic weapons and rare gun designs that use caseless ammunition—and move their regulation to the Commerce Department, which won't try to police technical data about the guns posted on the public internet.
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(07-11-2018 09:59 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  Although the ruling doesn't allow all guns.

Quote:The Department of Justice's surprising settlement, confirmed in court documents earlier this month, essentially surrenders to that argument. It promises to change the export control rules surrounding any firearm below .50 caliber—with a few exceptions like fully automatic weapons and rare gun designs that use caseless ammunition—and move their regulation to the Commerce Department, which won't try to police technical data about the guns posted on the public internet.

You obviously do not know much about firearms. Any firearm greater than .50 caliber is basically a pure weapon of war. All sporting firearms are under .50 caliber (other than the proverbial elephant gun), which means that the settlement applies to any firearm that a civilian would own. In other words, that settlement was a complete victory.
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(07-11-2018 10:05 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  
(07-11-2018 09:59 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  Although the ruling doesn't allow all guns.

Quote:The Department of Justice's surprising settlement, confirmed in court documents earlier this month, essentially surrenders to that argument. It promises to change the export control rules surrounding any firearm below .50 caliber—with a few exceptions like fully automatic weapons and rare gun designs that use caseless ammunition—and move their regulation to the Commerce Department, which won't try to police technical data about the guns posted on the public internet.

You obviously do not know much about firearms. Any firearm greater than .50 caliber is basically a pure weapon of war. All sporting firearms are under .50 caliber (other than the proverbial elephant gun), which means that the settlement applies to any firearm that a civilian would own. In other words, that settlement was a complete victory.

Yes, and that's an important distinction. I, for one, would not want plans for fully automatic guns or .50 caliber sniper rifles freely available online for every thug, jihadi, and loon to assemble a military arsenal.
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This stuff is exactly why gun control is a waste of time. It used to be you needed a basic knowledge of machining to make one, but this? Of course governments aren't going to acknowledge it.
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(07-11-2018 11:51 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  
(07-11-2018 10:05 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  
(07-11-2018 09:59 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  Although the ruling doesn't allow all guns.

Quote:The Department of Justice's surprising settlement, confirmed in court documents earlier this month, essentially surrenders to that argument. It promises to change the export control rules surrounding any firearm below .50 caliber—with a few exceptions like fully automatic weapons and rare gun designs that use caseless ammunition—and move their regulation to the Commerce Department, which won't try to police technical data about the guns posted on the public internet.

You obviously do not know much about firearms. Any firearm greater than .50 caliber is basically a pure weapon of war. All sporting firearms are under .50 caliber (other than the proverbial elephant gun), which means that the settlement applies to any firearm that a civilian would own. In other words, that settlement was a complete victory.

Yes, and that's an important distinction. I, for one, would not want plans for fully automatic guns or .50 caliber sniper rifles freely available online for every thug, jihadi, and loon to assemble a military arsenal.

Trust me, thugs, loons and jihadis already got them. You think the good people at the Albanian Kalashnikov factory won't sell the plans to somebody because of a background check?

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Seriously tech needs to stop developing. I used to be interested in programming video games and take computers apart then put them back together,trade Bitcoin when it was shit, etc and thought this shit is cool but now that tech is at this point I don't see alot of it as good.

Obviously that won't happen.

Unfortunately that's where the money is so even I would get into the industry for money purposes....

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80% lowers never went away, even in my state of California

The gun laws here are laughable and always ignored - just recently in LA a gang got busted for owning and making ghost guns.

Because gangs follow gun laws right? Angel

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(07-12-2018 01:27 PM)SteezeySteve Wrote:  Seriously tech needs to stop developing. I used to be interested in programming video games and take computers apart then put them back together,trade Bitcoin when it was shit, etc and thought this shit is cool but now that tech is at this point I don't see alot of it as good.

Obviously that won't happen.

Unfortunately that's where the money is so even I would get into the industry for money purposes....

As has been the case throughout the history of mankind, people simply need to make good decisions. Those who do will prosper, while fools will not.

Obviously, a society that allows its citizens to make firearms in their homes is far less likely to eventually endure a totalitarian government. On the other hand, it is now well-established that using social media can result in millions of people experiencing serious anxiety, depression, and many other negative mental health consequences. So, which technology is more harmful to society?

So, in terms of technology, you can choose to tinker around with stuff that keeps society free and your body and mind active (printing firearms) -- or you can tinker with stuff that harms your mind and your mental health (social media). In a free society, it is your choice.
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Can data of weapons be easily made? I dont know.

Can the weapons be made out of materials that wont give out after a few rounds? A powerful round requires strong materials no?
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Free Will and all i guess with the whole gun debate now that liberals have power it's necessary to have this. It's just scary with the whole mass shooter issue.(that's probably caused by big wheat and deep soy)

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(07-12-2018 05:00 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Can data of weapons be easily made? I dont know.

Can the weapons be made out of materials that wont give out after a few rounds? A powerful round requires strong materials no?

This thread is discussing two different ways to use printable-gun blueprints to make a firearm:

1) 3D printers typically use thermoplastics, which is not ideally suited for firearms (although some have been made). A 3D printer using metal now costs tens of thousands of dollars, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, so using it to 3D print a firearm is not yet affordable (unless you already own a metal 3D printer that you use for other purposes).

2) It is legal to buy an 80%-complete receiver for a firearm as a part (meaning there is no need for a background check or any paperwork). Of course, many states still allow private party purchases of firearms without a background check or any paperwork. You can then mill the receiver in your garage using an old school milling machine -- or use a consumer-grade computer-controlled milling machine, such as the Ghost Gunner.

In each case, you legally create an untraceable firearm without jumping through the hoops imposed by an increasingly bureaucratic and overreaching government. All three methods are demonstrated in the video in the first post (i.e., using a 3D printer using thermoplastics, milling a receiver in your garage, and milling a receiver using a consumer-grade computer-controlled milling machine).
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(07-12-2018 05:00 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Can data of weapons be easily made? I dont know.

Can the weapons be made out of materials that wont give out after a few rounds? A powerful round requires strong materials no?

What purpose do you have posting three questions which are answered by the original post? Why subject others to your willful ignorance? I repped tailgunner for his second post not even realizing he was the op. I'd rep him again for his response to you that didn't state "read/watch the fucking original post!"

This type of willful ignorance is rife in gun control advocacy and we don't need more of it than the influx of new users/trolls have brought.

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