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Is he still doing Stephen Crowder's show? I haven't watched in a while.

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(03-28-2019 07:21 PM)Sooth Wrote:  Best watch on YT at the moment. No acting, no script and funny.

I dismissed the guy as nuts 6 months ago but now hes a good laugh and pretty onto it.

I find it bizarre how they didn't kick him months ago, as I said earlier I pray someone has his Herculean sized back catalogue archived daily so that we can sit around garbage can bonfires after the apocalypse telling the kids about the man no one listened to but was mostly right.

I agree he is very funny even the seqways are engrossing.
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He's still friends with Crowder but there is no chance Owen will be back on the show now that he names the Jew.
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(03-29-2019 02:28 PM)realologist Wrote:  
(03-29-2019 09:48 AM)911 Wrote:  ^This boils down to "don't make waves" cognitive dissonance. Just be a good lambda citizen, chase/game women get notches and don't cross the double yellow line... Benjamin is not "a depressed loser", he's got a great wife, a homestead and a family. He put himself in a position where he is providing for them while not being mentally shackled and not shilling for globohomo. He should be commended for this, not derided.

Nearly all of us here understand that the world has been fucked up. Many of us have come to understand that there is some method behind the cultural subversion, and guys like Benjamin and Roosh are taking a very courageous stand and trying to change this.

As well you're internalizing learned helplessness here, the submissive notion that the world is bad and you can't do anything about it. Benjamin is changing the world by redpilling hundreds of thousands of people, for starts, taking out cultural bullshit.

Here's a great example, Owen takes down the toxic cultural icon of John Lennon:

https://youtu.be/sbeJ4rvfFnA?t=5739

Projecting a little bit?

I'm not internalizing learned helplessness. In fact, I take action to make myself and my community better. Just because I don't talk about it on the internet and do it in a more direct local way with making my community better doesn't mean I don't do anything. Actions means a lot more than words.

That's kind of a false dichotomy, trying to learn and communicating about the deeper socio-political dynamics and cultural drivers does not preclude working on one's own personal situation.

Your assessment of Owen Benjamin here, from your post above, actually is a prime case of learned helplessness, you're basically bashing him for his pundit-comedian activism and implying that it's useless:

"Worrying so much about random shit that he can't control and doesn't really effect whether he has a good life or not".

Benjamin has the power and guts to push back and redpill millions. Maybe his style is not your cup of tea, that's fair enough, but he does have the power to make some real change. He's very similar to Dieudonné in France, a talented comedian who has refused to back down and redpilled millions of French patriots, including a lot of Gilets Jaunes.

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When you get some experience and intuition a lot of your impressions do not come from arguments, narratives, or the coherence of theories.

It is like the difference between spoken word and body language.

Obviously the subject matter and how it is presented is important. The problem is, often, if someone says something that is in alignment with our views, we tend to focus on that entirely and ignore red flags that come from other kinds of input.

How someone expresses something, how vociferous they are about an issue and then, the next day, just as passionate about an opposing view.

How quick they are to judge other people and, once having judged them, how amenable they are to any sort of attack, such as some physical attribute that the other person cannot help.

The people they are drawn to as well as the people that they choose to go after.

And a big one, the look in their eyes. Is it righteous anger or do they seem disturbed? Is their happiness sincere or is it manic glee?

Do they claim to have values that they ignore totally a few sentences later?

Do they come down hard on every little thing on other people but let themselves off the hook for similar behavior?

To me, Owen Benjamin's eyes look really bad. He has the persecuted resentful look of someone with a mental disorder. Not exactly sure how to explain it, but he reminds me of people who seem like they are about to lose it. You look in their eyes and feel as if they have taken something from you.

He is so so self righteous, being ultra judgmental about behavior he himself engaged in until recently.

I don't care if I agree with this argument or that at a certain point. Intention matters a lot, and his intention at the moment seems to be to pass himself off as some sort of secular John the Baptist, the lone voice crying out in the desert.

It seems like a fair number of other people are reacting to this vibe in this thread, and some aren't, just grinding away at analysis and doctrine.

He just doesn't seem well.

It could be that he swallowed too many red pills too fast and can't handle it emotionally.

Something is off though.

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(03-29-2019 05:35 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  To me, Owen Benjamin's eyes look really bad. He has the persecuted resentful look of someone with a mental disorder. Not exactly sure how to explain it, but he reminds me of people who seem like they are about to lose it. You look in their eyes and feel as if they have taken something from you.

He is so so self righteous, being ultra judgmental about behavior he himself engaged in until recently.

He could still just be in that redpill anger stage. He was trying to become a successful comedian and got shut down pretty hard once he got too spicy for the (((special people))). And he's pretty pissed at the hypocrisy of that, pointing out that Sarah Silverman says much worse things but gets a pass for being (((special))) and supporting libtard causes. Anyone that gets forced into a career change like that is going to be somewhat unstable just by virtue of it being a stressful situation. Even more stress when the backup of being an alternative media figure is demonetized.

Or he's bipolar and manic, but we should be skeptical since so far those accusations have mainly come from his (((coworkers))) that took exception to the j-bombs. I don't really trust people that say stuff like "so-and-so is a good friend, but I'm so worried about him now because...", since it's always just a preface to get away with shit talking about somebody with plausible deniability that you just have his well-being in mind.
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I see a man who is casting a massive net in order to maintain an audience. He picked up some steam riding the coattails of the IDW with interviews on Rubin, two Rogan appearances, and Daily Wire invites, but ultimately wasn't able to propel himself beyond being that one comedian who's been in a few Sandler movies who got in trouble for the criticizing the trans movement.

I attribute this to two factors: 1. He doesn't have the chops to be a social and, especially, a political intellectual who really only had one "go-to," the "I got black-balled because I spoke out against giving 3 year olds hormone therapy, guys!" 2. He simply is not funny enough to stay relevant so he resorts to cliched attempts of outrage language. "The nigger stole my bike" and talking about David Hogg's pubic hair is not comedic genius. And Benjamin is quick to remind his bears of his "genius level IQ" and how hilarious he is.

He has now alienated himself from so many that he's relegated to appeals to the extreme fringes of the alt-right. He is looking for any audience to embrace him.

He also just seems like a complete asshole who would be a drag to be around. Calling anyone who disagrees with him a cock-sucking faggot like a dumfuck middle schooler. And for as masculine as he purports himself to be, resorts to the extreme feminine tactic of airing out beefs publicly without addressing the issues(s) privately and face-to-face.
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I see guys like Owen Benjamin and I recognize their inner rage for what it is.

It's the guy crouching before he has to make that big leap.

The ridiculous state of affairs we're in has gone so far that questioning whether transgenders are just mentally ill is now grounds for being unpersoned from the internet. Oh, maybe not if you're some schmuck with ten followers but the second you become relevant then if you're not to the left of the Founding Fathers then you're fucked.

The future will no longer be decided by dialogue and that wild eyed look that Owen Benjamin has is the expression of that revelation.

Now if you think that talking this shit out is still going to fix it then OB looks "unhinged". Personally I've come to accept that all the "well hinged" folk are mostly delusional and in any case irrelevant. They are made up of people who in some cases are committed to non-violence no matter what or who are in essence historically illiterate. What it boils down to is this. Is there any line in this world you can conceive of that if crossed by the tyrants would cause you to resort to violence?

If so then it's inevitable that one day you're going to end up looking like OB. That guy crouched and ready to jump. All lines will be crossed until either the right fights in a literal sense (and wins or loses) or it submits utterly to being reprogrammed or annihilated.

OB is drawing a very small circle around himself because, and I know this as well as anyone, cowards will sell you out and embrace any and every lie in the world if it means just five minutes more peaceful servitude for them. OB has learned the hard way that if you commit to telling the truth no matter what (JQ) then you learn immediately who the gutless cowards are, and unfortunately it's generally most people you know.

It's hard not to become extremely angry and bitter when you find this out, and if you realize that violence is coming then there's a real question to be asked about whether there's any point in pushing that anger down when in reality you will probably need it to reconcile with what will have to be done sooner or later.

I look in OB's eyes and I see the only sane man in a sea of pathetic cattle. He knows what's coming.

Compare him to Rogan, who only cares about getting high. I know who'd I'd want watching my back. OB is the kind of guy who would turn up to his friend's house with a rifle to protect him from an ANTIFA mob. 99% of the faggots "on the right" would call the cops and hope for the best.

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(03-30-2019 06:37 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  
(03-29-2019 05:35 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  To me, Owen Benjamin's eyes look really bad. He has the persecuted resentful look of someone with a mental disorder. Not exactly sure how to explain it, but he reminds me of people who seem like they are about to lose it. You look in their eyes and feel as if they have taken something from you.

He is so so self righteous, being ultra judgmental about behavior he himself engaged in until recently.

He could still just be in that redpill anger stage. He was trying to become a successful comedian and got shut down pretty hard once he got too spicy for the (((special people))). And he's pretty pissed at the hypocrisy of that, pointing out that Sarah Silverman says much worse things but gets a pass for being (((special))) and supporting libtard causes. Anyone that gets forced into a career change like that is going to be somewhat unstable just by virtue of it being a stressful situation. Even more stress when the backup of being an alternative media figure is demonetized.

This could easily be true and he will pull out of it and continue with greater composure.

I don't think there is any of us who hasn't had the experience of learning more truth faster than we would have liked and being emotionally unsettled by it.

The fact that he wasn't much different than the people he is crapping on just a few months ago might also show that he is mad at himself for having been fooled for so long, and his over the top criticism of people is actually a proxy for reproach of himself.

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(03-30-2019 11:10 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Compare him to Rogan, who only cares about getting high. I know who'd I'd want watching my back. OB is the kind of guy who would turn up to his friend's house with a rifle to protect him from an ANTIFA mob. 99% of the faggots "on the right" would call the cops and hope for the best.

He is also the type that you would follow into battle, or trust with your life.
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(03-31-2019 03:37 PM)Sooth Wrote:  
(03-30-2019 11:10 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Compare him to Rogan, who only cares about getting high. I know who'd I'd want watching my back. OB is the kind of guy who would turn up to his friend's house with a rifle to protect him from an ANTIFA mob. 99% of the faggots "on the right" would call the cops and hope for the best.

He is also the type that you would follow into battle, or trust with your life.

He is also the type who would expect you to follow him into battle because his neighbor still believes they landed on the moon.

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(03-31-2019 04:31 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  
(03-31-2019 03:37 PM)Sooth Wrote:  
(03-30-2019 11:10 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Compare him to Rogan, who only cares about getting high. I know who'd I'd want watching my back. OB is the kind of guy who would turn up to his friend's house with a rifle to protect him from an ANTIFA mob. 99% of the faggots "on the right" would call the cops and hope for the best.

He is also the type that you would follow into battle, or trust with your life.

He is also the type who would expect you to follow him into battle because his neighbor still believes they landed on the moon.

I hope he quickly reaches the point where he sees the people he hates as being far less relevant than he imagines them to be. That's hard for me to do personally. In his position it's harder still.

When he comes to accept that there's no difference between Joe Rogan and Hannah Montana then he'll cease feeling the need to attack him as though he's a legitimate threat. Celebrity drama only strengthens the hold of the Hannah Montanas.

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Owen said in his #482 Stream that Alex Jones told him on the phone that Joe Rogan is a sodomite.
Wouldn't be surprised at all.
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^^^
I hope the cunts like Rogan and Jones don't sue him for defamation, he got a bit loose in his last stream
Owen is a champ, I like his honesty and telling it as it is.
They really fucked the lad off it seems?
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Just reading through this thread made me realize something quite beautiful in its simplicity.

It's gotten to the point where my support for a cultural speaker only has two criteria and two criteria alone.

1) Do they have the balls to address the JQ?
2) Are they hooking it to retarded shit to discredit others addressing the JQ?

If the answers are yes and no respectively then I don't give a shit about anything else. Nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

The more you boil it all down the more you realise that the JQ is the central linchpin for everything. Anybody that fails to recognize it or refuses to cover it is like a mathematician that fails to recognize the number 6 or refuses to use it. Whatever their reasoning is. Whatever their rationale. They are irrelevant, ineffective, and always will be.

Now that's not to say that you have to focus on the JQ and nothing but, yet if you can't bring yourself to admit its relevance or include it in your cultural observations then you're either an idiot or a coward.

Personally I don't give a shit if Owen Benjamin thinks the moon landing was fake. If I met him in person and the first thing he demanded was "what's your opinion on the moon landing" then I'd tell him "I don't give a fuck about it, and if that's not good enough then I'll be on my way". What it makes me realise though is that most people, even on the right, will ignore the whacky shit someone says right up until it becomes a good excuse to stick them in the crazy bin and walk away.

OB says the moon landings were fake. Rogan says he gets high and clockwork gnomes jack him off (or whatever). Nobody would give a shit about either if neither of them mentioned the JQ. Point of fact, if Rogan started ragging on the JQ and Owen never mentioned it then we'd see every "right wing" cuck under the sun racing out to decry Rogan as a drug addled degenerate while Owen's moon talk would simply be seen as healthy skepticism.

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This shit isn't optional anymore. You want to know who the flat earthers in this conversation are? They're the faggots who watched the Victoria under Magellan's expedition sail west out of Spain and then watched it arrive from the East into the Cape of Good Hope then greeted living proof the earth was round with:

"Geez. Okay. I accept that the earth is round, but it's just such a touchy subject. Shouldn't we all just ignore it?"

So like Owen Benjamin says.

Cocksucking faggots.

So who's not?

Owen Benjamin
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Who else?

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I'm sure there's a pretty funny explanation for why the forum software autochanges Roosh's last name to "Obama".

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(04-01-2019 05:43 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  So who's not?

Owen Benjamin
Roosh V
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Who else?

E. Michael Jones
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(04-01-2019 05:43 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  So who's not?

Owen Benjamin
Roosh V
Vox Day
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Who else?

JFG, he just avoids mentioning it explicitly to keep from getting his channel wiped out.
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Red Elephants mentions JQ in passing. He is aware.
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(04-01-2019 06:54 AM)rotekz Wrote:  
(04-01-2019 05:43 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  So who's not?

Owen Benjamin
Roosh V
Vox Day
Chateau Heartiste

Who else?

E. Michael Jones

Adam Green/Know More News
Christopher Bollyn - the authority on 9/11 and Israeli involvement in it
Nick Fuentes/America First
Rick Wiles/Trunews - woke evangelicals turning on establishment Scofield zionists

Woke Jews:
Gilad Atzmon - redpilled israeli dissident
Henry Makow - very good insights from his blog
Frame Game Radio dude - great insider info on Jewish supremacism and zionist cultural dynamics
David Cole - holocaust debunker, so successful at it he was hounded and beaten up by the JDL, and forced to live in hiding for decades.

Bollyn was also beaten up by a group of israeli agents, which kind of validates his research, especially given that he still is largely an unknown journalist. Frame Game was also hounded into oblivion and forced to shut his channel down.

Red Elephant has been walking on eggshells lately, but yeah he did get redpilled. JF as well, but ideologically he's a bit more uneven.

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Wow he is really spouting off these days. Dude has must have huge nuts or really just not give a fuck anymore. I'm surprised his brake cables haven't been cut yet
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(04-02-2019 09:03 AM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  Wow he is really spouting off these days. Dude has must have huge nuts or really just not give a fuck anymore. I'm surprised his brake cables haven't been cut yet



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Thought Frame Games was Shoahed from the internet. Do you have recent links?

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Yeah DBG he is still gone, there are a few reuploads but it's a small fraction of his previous work.

Another good guy is Jake Morphonious (Backstone Intelligence Network), especially on geopolitics, very black-pilled on Trump but great insights with good documentation, example:




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