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RE: Roosh taking a sabbatical, NaughtyNomad is retiring too... thinking about the same
I'll just chime in with my 2 cents.

OP, it sounds like you have had a pretty fulfilling sexual life and are now thinking about going for something more stable and committed. These feelings you have seem to coincide with the distancing from Game by two well known figures. It also happens that you're at an age where it's expected to be headed towards settling down. In my opinion, you should do what your gut is telling you feels right at this moment. We can only be pleased with our life right now.

As for the age factor, there's so much at play here. The number itself, but also the amount or lack of experience(s), the variety of it, what you feel you want to be doing, the social pressure. From personal experience, I can say that I get much more interest now in my early 30s than when I was in my 20s. In your 20s as a man, 90% of us are still kids. All over the place, spending time on unimportant things, trying to do everything, no economy. Some things simply come with age. Roosh himself said that his best time was 32-33 in regard to Game.

I myself have been thinking a lot about this lately. When I look back though, every time I wanted to get more serious with someone I did not have to think about it. I had no choice, but to want to spend more time with that girl and somehow other girls faded into the background. And I go by this because it's what feels most natural to me.

If it won't matter in 30 years, it doesn't matter now.

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(10-03-2018 09:46 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  I was going to write a long post about this. Maybe I will. "The Moody Manifesto".

This is the gist...

- There are still decent women out there, contrary to the game "Bible." They are your nurses, teachers, non-profit workers, etc., who aren't dimes. There is a big range between Instagram model and fat blue haired feminists. Believe it or not, some women are relatively well adjusted and just looking for a stable guy who can dress himself, pay his own bills, own a car, and be a well adjusted human being. They're generally not smoking hot and hanging with Bilzerian, though. They're just normal girls looking for a normal guy. Not every woman is sucking off the DJ in a bathroom.

- The "Playboy Lifestyle" gets boring after awhile. I've been living it since 2013. Big house, nice stuff, cool cars, no kids, no girlfriend, good job (self employed), and money. One girl you connect with is better than 10 you just bang and can't stand. Honestly, I get bored, despite absolute complete freedom. There are days I can literally wake up and do nothing without any consequence.

- What is the point of all this? Notch count? Does 100 notches get you a 1up? Or would you rather start a family with someone you care about, who cares about you? I can't answer that. It's your life, live it however you want to.

- In my personal opinion, self improvement is vastly more fulfilling than banging women. I'll gladly take another 5lbs of fat loss than a bang any day, or some new moves at jiu jitsu class while dating a woman I actually enjoy hanging out with. Validation through notch count gets boring and meaningless. But that's just my opinion.

- Traveling is cool. It's worth doing. Just don't do it for the sake of notch count. It is also tough to do if you're in a business like I am that requires a lot of personal and local attention. I can't travel across the country every month because I have to be in court, in Philadelphia, often. Physically. It's part of the job. I wish I could just outsource everything and spend my life writing emails on the beach. But it doesn't work like that.

- You can have women friends without being a beta orbiter. Women who you talk to, email, text, without trying to bang. I have a lot of women friends and they're all cool. I'm not into them, sometimes they're into me, but I keep things casual and cool. They are usually a good source of meeting other chicks.

- You do not need to bang every woman on the first date, and next her if you don't. A lot of my longest term relationships started with three dates. Enjoy the ride, enjoy your time, enjoy the meal, and enjoy her company. As a lover of country music, this is good advice:

"Who knows where this road is supposed to lead
We got nothing but time
As long as you're right here next to me, everything's gonna be alright
If it's meant to be, it'll be, it'll be
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So, won't you ride with me, ride with me?
See where this thing goes
If it's meant to be, it'll be, it'll be"

I'm not saying to eschew game or just go back blue pill, it's just that the red pill isn't the prescription for total happiness and fulfillment, either.

I'm not really sure what is.

What I can tell you is to enjoy the ride and have fun with it.

By the way, I got three neutral rep points for writing this as a "game denialist."

Even though it's now about 7am, there is a chick sleeping in my bed, and we just had a giant party with mostly women at my house that raged until about an hour ago.

But hey, believe what you read online, boys. Buy the books. Sign up for the classes.

All it takes is sly spit to bang women. Really. Nothing else matters ... the internet said so.

A lot of you treat "game knowledge" like it's Biblical. It's like Moses came down and put the Ten Commandments of Game on Stone. Anyone who says differently is a heretic. It's sad, and wrong.
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(10-06-2018 05:51 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  By the way, I got three neutral rep points for writing this as a "game denialist."

Even though it's now about 7am, there is a chick sleeping in my bed, and we just had a giant party with mostly women at my house that raged until about an hour ago.

But hey, believe what you read online, boys. Buy the books. Sign up for the classes.

All it takes is sly spit to bang women. Really. Nothing else matters ... the internet said so.

A lot of you treat "game knowledge" like it's Biblical. It's like Moses came down and put the Ten Commandments of Game on Stone. Anyone who says differently is a heretic. It's sad, and wrong.


See, I just can't take what you write seriously at all.

You say the playboy lifestyle gets boring yet you qualify yourself here by lowkey bragging about a party and a woman in your bed, indicative and in contradiction with your previous post.

For real, I can't take you seriously because if you're really so happy/doing well then how you gonna come on here and complain about this shit?

How does a guy who has his shit in order let some shit like this bother him that he posts what you post and qualifies like that?

'by the way'

LOL, who cares?

I pointed out this incongruence in the other thread where you claimed big game but was defensive when some of your buttons were pushed. If you had tight game you would notice that members here were throwing curveballs at you and shit testing you. Any person with an understanding of social dynamics and human nature would point that out as birthday cat and I did in that thread.

Do you not see the amusing irony in this?

Some guy is gonna come and tell me I ain't got game, I will laugh at him and give him a thumbs up, especially on the internet. I would expect other guys here who have confidence in their abilities to do the same because it doesn't matter.

I agree with the intention of your OP but not with the message itself.

Let those who are keen on game and interested to discuss it but alas this is a forum and I respect your right to your opinion.

Your reactions are curious and it just doesn't add up, in an amusing way. This is why why we bust your balls.

Why are you on this forum then?

It's like you went to the moon and came back and are telling us, here at NASA, that it sucks and it's just not worth it.

LOL. Pack it up guys. We done here.

I will keep my positive rep because you have provided value in the past but for real, maybe you should see to those girls in their underwear in your house...? Or is this a validation thing..?

You're on a game forum, so expect some resistance. Your reaction to it is telling and why I personally won't take your post seriously.

I already posted this to you in another and you chose not to respond, perhaps you think you're better than that. That's fine, despite your last post showing otherwise.

If you are a game denialist, own it, embrace it, enjoy it. Don't deny shit and then bitch about it when someone calls you out on it.

How is a baller dude who has lived the playboy life get his knickers in a knot over some neutral reps on a forum where 40% of the guys are talking a game bigger than they are? How is he gonna say it's overrated yet come back and qualify himself in the same thread?

This is the same shit in the modern game thread.

It's incongruent and RVF is a tough crowd buddy, get over it and get back to that girl in your bed.

It's a game forum, what else did you expect?

I don't go into a Mosque and tell them to eat pork and then complain about why they aren't interested.

The wolf doesn't occupy himself with the opinion of the sheep.
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(10-06-2018 08:09 AM)Noir Wrote:  
(10-06-2018 05:51 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  By the way, I got three neutral rep points for writing this as a "game denialist."

Even though it's now about 7am, there is a chick sleeping in my bed, and we just had a giant party with mostly women at my house that raged until about an hour ago.

But hey, believe what you read online, boys. Buy the books. Sign up for the classes.

All it takes is sly spit to bang women. Really. Nothing else matters ... the internet said so.

A lot of you treat "game knowledge" like it's Biblical. It's like Moses came down and put the Ten Commandments of Game on Stone. Anyone who says differently is a heretic. It's sad, and wrong.


See, I just can't take what you write seriously at all.

You say the playboy lifestyle gets boring yet you qualify yourself here by lowkey bragging about a party and a woman in your bed, indicative and in contradiction with your previous post.

For real, I can't take you seriously because if you're really so happy/doing well then how you gonna come on here and complain about this shit?

How does a guy who has his shit in order let some shit like this bother him that he posts what you post and qualifies like that?

'by the way'

LOL, who cares?

I pointed out this incongruence in the other thread where you claimed big game but was defensive when some of your buttons were pushed. If you had tight game you would notice that members here were throwing curveballs at you and shit testing you. Any person with an understanding of social dynamics and human nature would point that out as birthday cat and I did in that thread.

Do you not see the amusing irony in this?

Some guy is gonna come and tell me I ain't got game, I will laugh at him and give him a thumbs up, especially on the internet. I would expect other guys here who have confidence in their abilities to do the same because it doesn't matter.

I agree with the intention of your OP but not with the message itself.

Let those who are keen on game and interested to discuss it but alas this is a forum and I respect your right to your opinion.

Your reactions are curious and it just doesn't add up, in an amusing way. This is why why we bust your balls.

Why are you on this forum then?

It's like you went to the moon and came back and are telling us, here at NASA, that it sucks and it's just not worth it.

LOL. Pack it up guys. We done here.

I will keep my positive rep because you have provided value in the past but for real, maybe you should see to those girls in their underwear in your house...? Or is this a validation thing..?

You're on a game forum, so expect some resistance. Your reaction to it is telling and why I personally won't take your post seriously.

I already posted this to you in another and you chose not to respond, perhaps you think you're better than that. That's fine, despite your last post showing otherwise.

If you are a game denialist, own it, embrace it, enjoy it. Don't deny shit and then bitch about it when someone calls you out on it.

How is a baller dude who has lived the playboy life get his knickers in a knot over some neutral reps on a forum where 40% of the guys are talking a game bigger than they are? How is he gonna say it's overrated yet come back and qualify himself in the same thread?

This is the same shit in the modern game thread.

It's incongruent and RVF is a tough crowd buddy, get over it and get back to that girl in your bed.

It's a game forum, what else did you expect?

I don't go into a Mosque and tell them to eat pork and then complain about why they aren't interested.

The wolf doesn't occupy himself with the opinion of the sheep.

I don't really care all that much. I just posted everything I have to say in another thread.

What I'm mostly annoyed about is there are secret Facebook groups where people have "outed" my identity and even PM'd my girlfriend, which c'mon, is absolute faggotry.

There is like this weird concerted effort to go after what I write lately. I'm not sure what triggered these people. I've been writing here since 2015 without any issues, hosting meetups, etc.

It's getting weirdly personal, too. If I weren't self employed, I'd probably be worried.

I open my home and my office to forum members all the time. Now I have to worry about this kind of crap.
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(10-05-2018 08:17 AM)kuqezi Wrote:  
(10-04-2018 09:10 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  
(10-04-2018 08:52 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  
(10-04-2018 08:49 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  Even on here if some guy in his 30s was to talk about going out to bars, running night game and doing that shit then members would give him shit for it. People will tell him to "grow up" and this is arguably one of the lesser judgmental places out there.

Where have you seen this on this forum? Please provide examples.

Lets use a passive aggressive example from this page, nothing against anyone.

Quote:If your 18-25 stage didn't include lots of hot young pussy then you will miss this part and eventually it will come back to haunt you later. If you married at 20 and after the "honeymoon" phase ends...and you have banged only 2 women in your life at 28 (+/- 1-2 years) you will be hungry for new pussy that's "missing". Thus you see 30-40 and also 50 that are constantly into chasing pussy eventually. It's not bad per se, but I think you're trying to fill a void.

"Fill a void".

Even if the author said there is nothing wrong with it, this sort of thing is not exactly looked upon highly even on a game forum. Hence why I said passive aggressive sort of attack.

A 21 year old going out to bars to get laid is young and having fun, a 30 year old doing it is trying to "fill a void".

I know it is a soft example but lets consider that this forum should actually be the most lenient towards a man wanting to bust a load on the face of a hundred different hoes. If that man is trying to "fill a void" on here, imagine the amount of backlash that exists from normal society.

Here we go again... let's shit on the thread and just hear beer whine...YES...it's what you're doing AGAIN!

PLEASE read my post again top to bottom and understand the logic in it starting from the age, stages of life and eventually the type of men. It's supposed to make sense as a WHOLE and not just the paragraphs you want to read.
You just generalize again and provide almost no value. Make no mistake (cause I know you will)...this is not a personal attack...but a mere advice (after countless that were given to you in other threads)...please stick to the thread and provide your thought value rather than beating on the same damn thing over and over.

I did provide value and stay on topic after going through your post and calling it out for what it is.

My point being with what Roosh himself is doing along with many others, the game becomes tougher with age and your post was an example of how judgmental and harsh society can get towards an older player.

Your posts are one personal attack after another, quite frankly I have no idea why you yourself cannot debate the point itself instead of taking shots at me. You said what you said, stand by it and defend it.

I mean its clear from what I have read that you have an issue with older men chasing women instead of settling down.
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I am slightly older than Roosh. Believe me or not - I still pull from the night clubs. I have been married. I have been in several LTR in my life. And you know what?
I still prefer players lifestyle.
It is an personal choice!
But to choose the right one for you, you must have both experiences - to be in LTR with hot girl at least for 2-5 years, and to have a variety.
And then you simply
have to choose, what lifestyle you like more. This is the best advice I can give you.
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Being in the notch game gets old fast, and more bangs do not equal more personal satisfaction. A forum poster said that after banging a certain number of girls, you have banged them all. I agree, and your number may be as low as 10, 25 or 50. What matters is the pursue of virtue, transcendence and satisfaction with one's life. A real man does not need women to achieve such, and neither being on the road being a player, but ideally you can be a player during certain periods of your life, not necessarily in one long batch, which would add to your personal happiness.

I do not advocate for MGTOW, just that the life of an "international player" is unstable by design; and as a man ages, new paths are more evident. The greatest philosophers of mankind were all men, and they more or less ended up retiring from the life of the common man and the pointless, not virtuous pursue of women. That most modern women lack virtue, that is another story.

Being pragmatical, by your late 30s, and onward to your 40s and 50s, you ought to be financially stable, and your game with women ideally will be tailored to a specific niche, for example women in your business, your industry and socially interesting groups that include quality women (buddhism, art, some NGOs). Using Tinder, daygame or clubbing is possible in your late 40s, but only for some men that were born for it.

As for Roosh, he showed signs of being burned out at least 3 years ago, and his antics and publicity stunts ultimately made him a financial and digital outcast. Still, he more or less knew this would happen, and I remember posts of him saying that he had a fuck you fund enough for many years.
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(10-03-2018 11:17 PM)John Dodds Wrote:  Nobody needs to bang more than 40 women in their lifetime.
In fact, probably more than 10 is just repeating yourself, women aren't all that different from each other.

I thought this read 'nobody needs to bang more than 40 10s in their lifetime,' which I was gonna agree with. 40 dimepieces would be a lot.

And life & game does get easier over time, at least for some of us. Mine got a lot better from 26 to 36 to 40s. In all aspects [except maybe cardio since I don't hoop 6x a week now]
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(10-09-2018 04:22 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  
(10-03-2018 11:17 PM)John Dodds Wrote:  Nobody needs to bang more than 4000 women in their lifetime.
In fact, probably more than 1000 is just repeating yourself, women aren't all that different from each other.

I thought this read 'nobody needs to bang more than 40 10s in their lifetime,' which I was gonna agree with. 40 dimepieces would be a lot.

Fixed it for you.
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(10-04-2018 02:01 AM)Luther Wrote:  I have never read or heard of a man saying that mairrage completed him and filled him with joy and he loves his wife as much as ever and can’t get enough of her sweet ass.
What does this mean? I don’t know.

There probably aren't too many happily married men perusing forums on game and how to get laid.

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Do these secret Facebook groups really exist and if so, why haven’t I been invited? If you fucks are planning on doxxing me then go ahead, my mom and bosses already know I travel to Colombia to bang skanks and do copious amounts of high quality booger sugar.

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(10-10-2018 01:11 PM)scotian Wrote:  Do these secret Facebook groups really exist and if so, why haven’t I been invited? If you fucks are planning on doxxing me then go ahead, my mom and bosses already know I travel to Colombia to bang skanks and do copious amounts of high quality booger sugar.

The secret facebook groups that HankMoody spoke of were a complete fabrication of his imagination. The doxxing was also a fabrication in the sense that he doxxed himself. Someone calling him fat being proof of doxxing is laughable as he created a damn thread about how he'd gotten fat.

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(10-10-2018 01:11 PM)scotian Wrote:  Do these secret Facebook groups really exist and if so, why haven’t I been invited? If you fucks are planning on doxxing me then go ahead, my mom and bosses already know I travel to Colombia to bang skanks and do copious amounts of high quality booger sugar.

The secret facebook groups that HankMoody spoke of were a complete fabrication of his imagination. The doxxing was also a fabrication in the sense that he doxxed himself. Someone calling him fat being proof of doxxing is laughable as he created a damn thread about how he'd gotten fat.

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RE: Roosh taking a sabbatical, NaughtyNomad is retiring too... thinking about the same
Read the ancients.

Not one of them ever gives much space to women in his books.

Read about the lives of men like Cesare Borgia. Women are irrelevant in it, despite the fact he had many and sired 11+ children.

Gotta be a fag to think that a woman can "complete you".

Find higher things to chase than pussy. Merely mentioning the word "notch", if not in scare quotes, is a symptom of degeneracy - let alone putting a "flag list" on your site at the top like Krauser. Certified gamma loser!

The ancients valued male friendship as stratospherically more important than women.

But who among us brags about the number and quality of his male friendships? Who ever takes pride in THAT notch count?

I treat women like videogames these days, and the game like... another videogame. You can enjoy the hell out of it, you can be good at it, you can love it even. But at the end of the day it's just a game. And there are far more important things in life than games.

If you want to impress me, tell me that you understand quantum mechanics. That's impressive. Ejaculating in vaginas is something even the clinically retarded can do. Even animals can do it!

Respect to the dudes who have become accomplished in game and are dropping out of it to pursue higher things.
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RE: Roosh taking a sabbatical, NaughtyNomad is retiring too... thinking about the same
(10-11-2018 04:44 AM)sethg Wrote:  Read the ancients.

Not one of them ever gives much space to women in his books.

Read about the lives of men like Cesare Borgia. Women are irrelevant in it, despite the fact he had many and sired 11+ children.

Gotta be a fag to think that a woman can "complete you".

Find higher things to chase than pussy. Merely mentioning the word "notch", if not in scare quotes, is a symptom of degeneracy - let alone putting a "flag list" on your site at the top like Krauser. Certified gamma loser!

The ancients valued male friendship as stratospherically more important than women.

But who among us brags about the number and quality of his male friendships? Who ever takes pride in THAT notch count?

I treat women like videogames these days, and the game like... another videogame. You can enjoy the hell out of it, you can be good at it, you can love it even. But at the end of the day it's just a game. And there are far more important things in life than games.

If you want to impress me, tell me that you understand quantum mechanics. That's impressive. Ejaculating in vaginas is something even the clinically retarded can do. Even animals can do it!

Respect to the dudes who have become accomplished in game and are dropping out of it to pursue higher things.


How old are you? Do you have any other business or higher learning purpose?
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RE: Roosh taking a sabbatical, NaughtyNomad is retiring too... thinking about the same
I think many on this post have made good points for both sides of the continuing debate.

I recently turned 33 and learned game about ten years ago, and within those ten years I learned a great deal about the benefits that come from having a game mindset.

Roosh, Naughty Nomad, and many notable others on the forum have expressed in great detail why they've chosen to leave the continued pursuit of game, but I don't think them having left game was in the literal sense. It's a shift in priorities, desires and lifestyle, and like game, is ever evolving or as simply as changing a type of vehicle you drive. Those of us men who have learned game and harnessed it to achieve our goals whether it's for more lays, pursuing a business, weightlifting, financial reasons or whatever the reason we did it, was to achieve something we thought impossible a long time ago. Once we reached that goal and mastered that skill we wanted more, as is human nature, for those that are driven.

"Red pill with streaks of black." As Roosh has pointed out in some of his podcasts, learning game and realizing the true nature of how our world operates is both a silver lining and a depressing reality. If you choose to wallow in thoughts about our depressing reality, you'll only be met with more depressing rhetoric and reflect that in your daily interactions. A man needs new goals, no matter how old he gets. It's a man's continued pursuit of new achievement that gives him purpose, a true meaning to live, and that could be a multitude of things, i.e. having/raising children.

"I don't need a woman to fill the void." Of course, you don't NEED a woman but the biological makeup of men tells us that we need to reproduce, teach, create/pass on traditions to the next generation so that they may survive new struggles in their future. Is that viable for all of us? No. It's painfully obvious in today's environment that marriage, having children and creating new relationships, have evolved to such a degree that many of us men don't feel the need or want to pursue that path because some of us think that these pursuits, marriage for example: is outdated, stacked against men, the government designed it that way, MGTOW, and society hates men. "To be successful you need to reproduce." ~ Biology

"I've been doing the player lifestyle for a long time and don't want to stop." Okay, then don't stop. Who are we on this forum to tell another man what he should and shouldn't pursue in life? There's a lot to argue about there but that's been discussed enough already, I won't get into details about it.

"I've been doing the player lifestyle for a long time but I can't decide between quitting it and becoming a family man." Who says you have to quit the player lifestyle and settle down? Why can't you do both? This is the paradigm many on the forum have repeated over and over again, and I think the solution is quite simple: Don't get married. "But I still want to pass on my genes." Have kids with that hot piece of ass. Yes, if you live in a westernized country, you'll still have to shell out to make sure they live a happy life even though they know their parents are no longer together. Be the bigger man here: Make sure you're there for all the important events in your kid's life. Show them that you're the strong father figure that will be there to help guide them through life's struggles and nuances. We see it pretty clearly, every day what happens when idiots knock up these girls and don't stick around to watch their little bastards grow up.

"I've done the player lifestyle but it no longer fulfills me. I want to be a father and a husband but I know what the environment is like today for men and that scares me. Things seem hopeless." There is no quick solution for this. Roosh talks about this in his book, Game. I'm just paraphrasing what he says, here: "It's the era we live in and it'll take a long time for things to get to a better place but I don't think I'll live to see that day." This goes back to being red pill but with streaks of black. We can't make things change rapidly for our current environment to get better for us men.

Currently, I'm taking a break from getting new lays. I haven't pursued a single babe in the last three or four months. I've shifted my priorities and have been focusing on my inner game, and I feel great! I still want new pussy but I'm salivating more about the things I'll accomplish after I've hit a few of my inner game notches. I have no depressing thoughts about the future of my game. Getting old is inevitable but I know that I can go back and forth between getting new lays and pursuing my inner game at the same time, and I also know that when I do pursue those new lays I'm completely comfortable with the thought that I'll only invest in the highest quality girls and not worry that, "Oh shit, I'm getting older and don't have the energy of a young buck." Sure, I'll miss not having that feeling of invincibility but I know that I've reached a point in my life and level of game that I achieved what I did and are now pursuing new things or old things that fulfill me and give me enjoyment. I'm completely at ease with life.

You can live by the black pill and accept life as it is or you can get involved on forums such as this or other public domains and put out the good word that we're human, we still have a chance. We can create the reality that we want. We might not see the fruition of that hard work today but that's the point of being a man. We bust our asses for the dreams we want to become a reality for the benefit of those that come after us. Excuse me if I've gone on a philosophical rant.

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RE: Roosh taking a sabbatical, NaughtyNomad is retiring too... thinking about the same
(10-11-2018 04:44 AM)sethg Wrote:  If you want to impress me, tell me that you understand quantum mechanics. That's impressive. Ejaculating in vaginas is something even the clinically retarded can do. Even animals can do it!

Respect to the dudes who have become accomplished in game and are dropping out of it to pursue higher things.

As you get older, and have had +100 vaginas, nature is kind and lowers that ceaseless hunger and obsession with that fold of skin that has been many a mans ruin.

Game is much more than that, its the inner game, the self development that leads to being able to get the 100+, but it also leads to a deep inner peace.

You don't feel that fear and obsession with getting your next lay, abundance mentality eases that, and so naturally you turn your thoughts and focus to more important goals.
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RE: Roosh taking a sabbatical, NaughtyNomad is retiring too... thinking about the same
There is no prescribed path for how we should live our lives. We each have to make this determination for ourselves without making comparisons to other men and looking for certain benchmarks.

I can relate to some extent- priorities shift and
what you find enjoyable changes. I used to love talking in length about women, exchanging war stories, and strategies for bedding them. These topics are still discussed with my close friends but much less in frequency and scope. You start to recognize you are about halfway to the finish line and you don’t want your life to be predicated on the pursuit of carnal desires.

Some say game gets harder with age- it does to an extent related to energy, motivation, and drive. It also gets easier for many man. There are plenty of examples of my cohort in this community who are living enviable lives and
have an abundance of options- lifestyle and women wise.

I have been much less active here, but I continue to value the friendships I’ve made along the way during my stint here. I will chime in from time to time if I think that I can offer some perspective.
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RE: Roosh taking a sabbatical, NaughtyNomad is retiring too... thinking about the same
Retiring from the game is only possible with death, but I think exposure to the travel/player lifestyle makes it very hard to 'settle down'.

I'm not sure if one ever feels 'ready' to start a family, even if the desire for children is present.

I foresee that I would feel not ready even at 50, but I trust in the collective wisdom passed down from smarter men than myself, and prefer to act bodily rather than twiddle my thumbs. I cherish the relationship I have my family and father, and know my life will be fuller and more meaningful from embracing the responsibility of parenthood in the coming years. Although I'm only 32, I've lived well.

Family is a sacrifice, yes. But life is all sacrifice.

If you establish early in the relationship that solo travel and travel with friends is the norm, a balance can be struck.

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RE: Roosh taking a sabbatical, NaughtyNomad is retiring too... thinking about the same
I take breaks from time to time.

After many dates i end up burned.

They all sound the same to me just with different face, i pay less attention, have even less tolerance if they make me wait at some place... it becomes a routine and even if i bang some of them i end up bored. Up to the point that i prefer a quick tard to save myself wasting time and money.

So yeah i think breaks are necessary
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RE: Roosh taking a sabbatical, NaughtyNomad is retiring too... thinking about the same
Seems that Game and Travel, while being independent pursuits, often go together.

True that there is no retiring from Game. It has it's uses in business, relationships, family, etc.
But the same can also be said of Travel. Once you start, and learn how to make it work for you, going back to a life before having that experience and knowing its benefits is impossible.

Both of these provide a man with the ability to grow and develop in whatever direction he wants. More pussy, more money, more freedom, more knowledge, or all. Each man gets out of it what he puts in.

On family, it just depends on what your ideal for yourself is. If you want a happy home with a pretty wife and picket fence with kids and cars, well then that's what you'll naturally work towards. If you want to be a millionaire entrepreneur that's constantly making deals while on the go, that's where your path of development will lead.

In the end, we become what we need. Game and Travel are just modern gateways for men more willing to go outside their comfort zones

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RE: Roosh taking a sabbatical, NaughtyNomad is retiring too... thinking about the same
I fit the stereotype -- 43, divorced 5 yrs ago after a mercifully brief marriage to what turned out to be a bad wife.
I dove back into game about 3-4 months after the separation, after I'd gotten my head straight.
I was like a dog in heat. I hit up East Coast, South America, Chicago. It was the most sexually fruitful 2-yr period of my life.
Finally, I calmed down again. For a while, maybe a year and a half.
Then I got the itch again. And started scratching.

I have 3 points:
1) Life is an up-and-down of sexual desire. At some points you'll have little. At other points you'll have a lot.
2) If you're jacked and still look young, game is more fun when you're older/divorced because you can't help but stop taking women seriously.
3) I don't see how marriage fits into sexual desire. I learned the hard way.
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(10-03-2018 08:21 PM)MongolianAbroad Wrote:  
(10-03-2018 07:21 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  Being older the fascination with that fold of skin drops, and you start to look at other attributes of the woman... like pleasantness, conversation and positivity (all things lacking in hot young things)

Laugh7

You'll learn that someday, or you won't.

Laugh it up.

(10-04-2018 09:54 AM)SeaFM Wrote:  The only thing we are here for is to make babies.

Everything else is just noise.

That's a pretty neanderthal way of looking at the world. It's still wrong.

We might be in a simulation.

We might be here to reach heaven.

We might have no point at all.

You create your reason for living. No one else.

So choose how you want to live. Master some skills and enjoy life. At some point you'll figure out your purpose, too. Real living.

It's not "making babies."

That's a bi-product, hopefully one that happens after you've started living a great life.

Be a man and lead. Be bold. Leave your mark on this world and be good to others. Don't be afraid to take chances and step outside your comfort zone. We influence each other more than we know.

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RE: Roosh taking a sabbatical, NaughtyNomad is retiring too... thinking about the same
Anyone who is just chasing girls for years and years on end is either

1) Inexperienced
2) Fucked in the head
3) Really likes pussy/maybe a sex addict

Almost always 1 or 2 though, especially in the "game" community

Like anything else, pussy loses its novelty

You aren't getting laid because you still believe in "game".

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