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(06-02-2019 10:38 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  
(06-02-2019 09:50 PM)Roosh Wrote:  I think it's safe to say that the manosphere is dead.

From your perspective, when did it die?

I don't believe there is one defining moment, but ROK seemed to be holding things together.

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(06-02-2019 07:45 PM)zoom Wrote:  It's hard to take that convention seriously when they have a gay man as one of the speakers (Jack Donovan).

Donovan was a professional dancer in gay bars.

He's also an outright satanist, member of the church of satan, and admirer/follower of Anton Lavey. He painted this:

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He wears a pin of an inverted cross on his lapel, an unmistakable satanist anti-Christian icon:

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He's peddling evil "muscular" globohomo subversion as some kind of neo-masculine virtue. This is also the dark underside of neo-paganism.

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Nothing is forever except constant change- try running 2007 game in 2019 and you will understand what I am talking about. Times change , people change and and the only constant is change. My advice is don't take sides and derive value where you can. For what it is worth "Intimacy " is still great.

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Quote:Now before you write me off as another salon.com freak who wants to be a cuckold or some kind of spineless beta under male, hear me out. This has been a long road. My manhood is intact and my dick is hard.

This is straight up Honk Honk material.
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(06-03-2019 12:21 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  
Quote:Now before you write me off as another salon.com freak who wants to be a cuckold or some kind of spineless beta under male, hear me out. This has been a long road. My manhood is intact and my dick is hard.

This is straight up Honk Honk material.

What's this quote from?

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(06-03-2019 10:43 AM)911 Wrote:  
(06-02-2019 07:45 PM)zoom Wrote:  It's hard to take that convention seriously when they have a gay man as one of the speakers (Jack Donovan).

Donovan was a professional dancer in gay bars.

He's also an outright satanist, member of the church of satan, and admirer/follower of Anton Lavey. He painted this:

[Image: main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&a...alNumber=1]

He wears a pin of an inverted cross on his lapel, an unmistakable satanist anti-Christian icon:

[Image: jack_donovan.jpg?w=685]


He's peddling evil "muscular" globohomo subversion as some kind of neo-masculine virtue. This is also the dark underside of neo-paganism.

I'm sending a posse of straight men in to get rid of Donovan and set things right.

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Not sure if the tweet will embed as I’m on mobile. But this guy involved with the convention is insinuating that Rollo committed some kind of crime. The drama between these supposed “alpha” and “masculine” men is so lame but I’m honestly curious about what went down.
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(06-03-2019 12:21 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  
Quote:Now before you write me off as another salon.com freak who wants to be a cuckold or some kind of spineless beta under male, hear me out. This has been a long road. My manhood is intact and my dick is hard.

This is straight up Honk Honk material.

In this brave new world we can calculate the degeneracy of an act by measuring the hardness of another man's dick
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(06-02-2019 11:25 PM)Rorogue Wrote:  The funny thing is that the 21 Convention usually only happens about once a year, and attracts like 200 attendees.

I mean, for all the song and dance Anthony makes about it being "The Greatest Men's Event in the World", it can only sell 200 tickets a year?

And this after over a decade of doing it?

How is this guy making money to keep sustaining this? Does he have a trust fund or something?

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It seems to be 3 events per year on the website.

If he sells 200 tickets he'd make 200*1600 = $ 320 000 per event so that would generate $ 960 000 per year now. Maybe even more if some are willing to pay for that more expensive price?

Seems strange to me how some guys would be willing to spend this much when there's already tons of free content out there which is great and there are other cheaper events that are probably a good place to meet pretty like minded people.

Anthony also strikes me as pretty strange. I used to watch almost every episode of the Red Man Group on YouTube. I rememeber when the guys were chatting about something interesting and when Anthony suddenly had to mention a girl he was seeing from Tinder and how much she liked that Anthony was manly and dominant with her in bed. But it was totally off topic and was kind of weird.

Who knows, but maybe he's trying to sort of overcompensate for something now after the trauma he had with his ex-wife who had been cheating on him for years and actually turned out to be a real prostitute?

He's speaking about it here:





This also strikes me as pretty odd, how he is frequently mentioning how he's the creator of this best event in history and stuff.


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"Unstoppable American Entreprenuer", "Leader of 21convention", "CEO of", "Co-founder & COO".

Seems like he's taking himself too serious.
Also the fact that he shared a photo of Roosh when they met and was apparently nice to him back then and then acts passive aggressive online and then pretty much calls him a lost soul later on does not give me a good impression.
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RE: Anyone going to the 21 Convention
(06-03-2019 01:51 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  
(06-02-2019 11:25 PM)Rorogue Wrote:  The funny thing is that the 21 Convention usually only happens about once a year, and attracts like 200 attendees.

I mean, for all the song and dance Anthony makes about it being "The Greatest Men's Event in the World", it can only sell 200 tickets a year?

And this after over a decade of doing it?

How is this guy making money to keep sustaining this? Does he have a trust fund or something?

[Image: epIMQ8u.png]

It seems to be 3 events per year on the website.

If he sells 200 tickets he'd make 200*1600 = $ 320 000 per event so that would generate $ 960 000 per year now. Maybe even more if some are willing to pay for that more expensive price?

Seems strange to me how some guys would be willing to spend this much when there's already tons of free content out there which is great and there are other cheaper events that are probably a good place to meet pretty like minded people.

Anthony also strikes me as pretty strange. I used to watch almost every episode of the Red Man Group on YouTube. I rememeber when the guys were chatting about something interesting and when Anthony suddenly had to mention a girl he was seeing from Tinder and how much she liked that Anthony was manly and dominant with her in bed. But it was totally off topic and was kind of weird.

Who knows, but maybe he's trying to sort of overcompensate for something now after the trauma he had with his ex-wife who had been cheating on him for years and actually turned out to be a real prostitute?

He's speaking about it here:





This also strikes me as pretty odd, how he is frequently mentioning how he's the creator of this best event in history and stuff.


[Image: WKwp3Am.png]

"Unstoppable American Entreprenuer", "Leader of 21convention", "CEO of", "Co-founder & COO".

Seems like he's taking himself too serious.
Also the fact that he shared a photo of Roosh when they met and was apparently nice to him back then and then acts passive aggressive online and then pretty much calls him a lost soul later on does not give me a good impression.

The Problem with Anthony Dream Johnson is, that he is still in this phase to desperately proof the world "I'm the Alpha" with hedonistic actions. Tons of people especially from the PUA / Red Pill yada communities are in this phase at one point or another. That's because we most likely started as a Beta and found Pickup or any other "male community" on the Internet and year by year we changed. If you are 21 and you go out picking up girls confidently after you were a "Beta", its fine in my book to tell your buddies about it. We all did that come on Angel But if you are the CEO of the "biggest Red Pill community" in the world (your words Anthony) you can't behave like a 21 year old that is still bleeding from the wounds his past girlfriend made him because he was a pussy and she left him (or in Anthony's case, he made love to promiscuous women and married one...). He also seems to be stuck in the Red Pill rage. I have him as a friend on facebook, and he is Internet fighting almost every week with some random women and is trying to prove to other men that they are Beta as fuck. That's a leader?

Anthony still thinks to make love to very promiscuous women with benis-counts in the double digits and up, is "Alpha". The Manosphere is shifting and tons of men are discovering that this lifestyle isn't normal. Its Alpha to find traditional women and build a family, Anthony. Anyone can swipe right on his toilet. But not many men can teach his children how to conquer the world Smile
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RE: Anyone going to the 21 Convention
(06-03-2019 10:43 AM)911 Wrote:  He's also an outright satanist, member of the church of satan

Nope, he left Satanism a decade or so ago. He's been a Norse pagan for a while now.

(06-03-2019 10:43 AM)911 Wrote:  He's peddling evil "muscular" globohomo subversion as some kind of neo-masculine virtue. This is also the dark underside of neo-paganism.

Nope. I've never witnessed a deeper hatred for globalism than in his book, Becoming a Barbarian. A large body of his writing revolves around how much globalism sucks and why tribalism is superior.

Although the homo part, yeah, he's into dudes.

For the record, Jack Donovan's writing has had a tremendous positive impact on the manosphere. He was the first of the manosphere to really explain what masculine virtue is, he's done a better job than anyone else in showing the emptiness of the globalist worldview, and he's actually shown us how to step out of globohomo consumerism.
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(06-03-2019 10:43 AM)911 Wrote:  [quote='zoom' pid='1987732' dateline='1559522754']
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Super spooky 5th level dark triad underlord material here

I heard he also frequents Hot Topic
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(06-03-2019 01:51 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  Who knows, but maybe he's trying to sort of overcompensate for something now after the trauma he had with his ex-wife who had been cheating on him for years and actually turned out to be a real prostitute?

He's speaking about it here:





This also strikes me as pretty odd, how he is frequently mentioning how he's the creator of this best event in history and stuff.


He went exclusive with a woman and then she cheated on him within 24 hours.

That's legitimately hilarious. This guy is clueless and has no business running a masculinity conference.
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I watched the RMG from a couple of weeks ago while on a flight. What a mess. The guy called Steve just makes funny faces and just puts callers and people down without any actionable advice. It can descend into a rabble most times.
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I dont want to dogpile on him and I have nothing negative to say about him, but the 200k subs is definitely misleading. All of those videos barely have any views. That means a very small active amount of those subscribers actually watch the content.

Basically fake paid for subs. It reminds me of "fake it to you make it confidence" newbies are advised when first discovering game.

That's a red flag and someone who has to buy influence should raise alot of red flags considering how much money hes charging.

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Anthony Johnson always seemed like a snakeoil merchant to me.
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From readind the tweets of 21 Convention members George Bruno and Ivan Throne, it seems pretty clear it's a business related thing.

Bruno refers to Rollo as a "traitor" numerous times, and both Throne and Bruno tell disgruntled fans of Rollo's that they "don't understand business".
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Douche.
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(06-03-2019 09:00 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  [Image: MEYnOYe.png]

Douche.


"I have had an average of 200 people come to my 16 events over 12 years. I have had 3200 people buy a ticket to my events in a span of over a decade. I also get on average about 4000 views per video on YouTube. A LIVING LEGEND I TELL YOU"
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"I am a living legend."

Oh dear.
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(06-03-2019 09:00 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  [Image: MEYnOYe.png]

Douche.

It seems like he's in some kind of personal crisis, but is not getting suitable advice, so his ego is just slamming on the gas. This will lead to an event that gets very bad reviews or is outright cancelled due to insufficient speakers or ticket sales.

I've seen this many times in men who start believing in their own hype. Johnson may be a good businessman, but people don't spend $1500 to see him talk. In terms of content, he has not earned the right to call himself a "living legend." The fall will soon come.

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(06-03-2019 01:51 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  
(06-02-2019 11:25 PM)Rorogue Wrote:  ...
Who knows, but maybe he's trying to sort of overcompensate for something now after the trauma he had with his ex-wife who had been cheating on him for years and actually turned out to be a real prostitute?

He's speaking about it here:
...
...

He was married? That does not look good for a guy who clearly is a businessman with no Game skills.

I wouldn't be surprised that the only reason women are attracted to him is money.

Snippet from "Marrying Medusa: How to Survive a Female Psychopath" page:
Quote:CEO of 21 Studios, founder of 21 University and The 21 Convention, Anthony Dream Johnson delivers a detailed account of his 4.5 year relationship and marriage to an adult female psychopath, Marilee Johnson, former host of The 21 Report.

Huh. His ex was a "...former host of The 21 Report".
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This is interesting.
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(06-03-2019 10:03 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Huh. His ex was a "...former host of The 21 Report".
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I skipped through a few of her interviews.

She usually covers her wedding ring when she puts her hands on the table.

That's almost always a sign of cheating. Watch out for women that do that.







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