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RE: Anyone going to the 21 Convention
(06-03-2019 06:44 PM)Emperor Constantine Wrote:  
(06-03-2019 10:43 AM)911 Wrote:  He's also an outright satanist, member of the church of satan

Nope, he left Satanism a decade or so ago. He's been a Norse pagan for a while now.

(06-03-2019 10:43 AM)911 Wrote:  He's peddling evil "muscular" globohomo subversion as some kind of neo-masculine virtue. This is also the dark underside of neo-paganism.

Nope. I've never witnessed a deeper hatred for globalism than in his book, Becoming a Barbarian. A large body of his writing revolves around how much globalism sucks and why tribalism is superior.

Although the homo part, yeah, he's into dudes.

For the record, Jack Donovan's writing has had a tremendous positive impact on the manosphere. He was the first of the manosphere to really explain what masculine virtue is, he's done a better job than anyone else in showing the emptiness of the globalist worldview, and he's actually shown us how to step out of globohomo consumerism.


He's done about as good a job filling "the emptiness of the globalist worldview" as he's done filling the emptiness of hundreds of anal cavities.

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RE: Anyone going to the 21 Convention
Na, I will stick up for Jack Donovan here.
He is extremely self aware and doesn't really talk about his homosexuality (apart from his first book).

I have a level of respect for a gay men who understands that heterosexual masculinity is under attack, and has a genuine interest in helping masculine men. Also one who respects that we dont want to see that, and keeps it private

I understand he is a Pagan, and critic of Cheistianity. I am not filled in on the ideological differences there, as I am neither.

"The Way of Men" was fantastic, and his speech on "Becoming a Barbarian" and Tribalism is certainly thought provoking with a lot of truth to it.
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(06-03-2019 11:32 PM)Rorogue Wrote:  Na, I will stick up for Jack Donovan here.
He is extremely self aware and doesn't really talk about his homosexuality (apart from his first book).

I have a level of respect for a gay men who understands that heterosexual masculinity is under attack, and has a genuine interest in helping masculine men. Also one who respects that we dont want to see that, and keeps it private

I understand he is a Pagan, and critic of Cheistianity. I am not filled in on the ideological differences there, as I am neither.

"The Way of Men" was fantastic, and his speech on "Becoming a Barbarian" and Tribalism is certainly thought provoking with a lot of truth to it.

He comes across fine in text, but when you see him on video it's obvious he's not one of us.

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(06-03-2019 10:03 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Huh. His ex was a "...former host of The 21 Report".
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I skipped through a few of her interviews.

She usually covers her wedding ring when she puts her hands on the table.

That's almost always a sign of cheating. Watch out for women that do that.








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RE: Anyone going to the 21 Convention
Funniest thing was that the bald guy in the first video- Socrates, aka blue pilled Butterbean- said at the start of his talk that year that "Anthony's relationship is what we're all searching for. THIS is the pinnacle of successful masculinity"

He had a picture of Anthony and his wife on a slide that he kept going back to.

Then she turned out to be a BPD cheating freak. Rollo said he saw it from a mile away.

Must have been very embarrassing for Socrates, who is on twitter taking great glee in Rollo being banished
(06-04-2019 01:59 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(06-03-2019 10:28 PM)VNvet Wrote:  
(06-03-2019 10:03 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Huh. His ex was a "...former host of The 21 Report".
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I skipped through a few of her interviews.

She usually covers her wedding ring when she puts her hands on the table.

That's almost always a sign of cheating. Watch out for women that do that.








There's not a pair of tits big enough in the world to disguise that billion-cock stare.

Amongst us mere mortals who are in no way living legends who would not see betrayal in the eyes of that she-beast a mile away?
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You'd honestly think that guys like these who were so dependent on marketing and so protective of image would simply engage a woman on a business contract to stand around, look pretty and not have sex with other guys.

I very much doubt they have a moral framework that precludes presenting a false front to their followers. Seems like if they were smart they'd just put the eye-candy on a contract rather than stake their entire frame on wifing up a well-used 8 and then dragging her around an industry full of PUAs.

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Yeah it seems like common sense to keep your marriage and your business separate, especially in this sort of venture. She sure seemed insistent on showing off her massive sweater puppies at every chance possible.
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(06-03-2019 10:59 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Yeah I saw that coming

I started "beefing" with him because of that tweet. I included it in my latest blog post about this forum and the changes here. I wrote how idiotic and dangerous it was for a man who claims to want to "Make Women Great Again" and supposedly values the family to mock a man for turning to God.

9 MINUTES after posting my article he tweets at me saying how I've been "suckered" by this forum.

It was until later that I realized that despite Anthony hating on Roosh, he was at one of his meetups a few years ago (last year?) in DC. And I was there! He was sitting by himself most of the night and was just being a general loner--and this is coming from an introvert.

He also took a pic with Roosh that he posted all over. Yet now he has the audacity to throw shade at him?

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Good work Seth!

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(06-04-2019 09:36 AM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  Yeah it seems like common sense to keep your marriage and your business separate, especially in this sort of venture. She sure seemed insistent on showing off her massive sweater puppies at every chance possible.

These new forum rules definitely produce some really interesting analogies Laugh

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(06-05-2019 12:02 AM)Samseau Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 09:36 AM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  Yeah it seems like common sense to keep your marriage and your business separate, especially in this sort of venture. She sure seemed insistent on showing off her massive sweater puppies at every chance possible.

These new forum rules definitely produce some really interesting analogies Laugh

I think men at church could mention massive sweater puppies if the pastor was there, but no women or children were within earshot. Christian men are still men.

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That fat, bald guy is definitely the pinnacle of masculine. Take my $2500!
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(06-04-2019 02:48 AM)Rorogue Wrote:  Funniest thing was that the bald guy in the first video- Socrates, aka blue pilled Butterbean- said at the start of his talk that year that "Anthony's relationship is what we're all searching for. THIS is the pinnacle of successful masculinity"

He had a picture of Anthony and his wife on a slide that he kept going back to.

Then she turned out to be a BPD cheating freak. Rollo said he saw it from a mile away.

Must have been very embarrassing for Socrates, who is on twitter taking great glee in Rollo being banished
(06-04-2019 01:59 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(06-03-2019 10:28 PM)VNvet Wrote:  
(06-03-2019 10:03 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Huh. His ex was a "...former host of The 21 Report".
[Image: maxresdefault.jpg]

I skipped through a few of her interviews.

She usually covers her wedding ring when she puts her hands on the table.

That's almost always a sign of cheating. Watch out for women that do that.

There's not a pair of tits big enough in the world to disguise that billion-cock stare.

Amongst us mere mortals who are in no way living legends who would not see betrayal in the eyes of that she-beast a mile away?

What a joke. RSDTyler is also into cucking. Wasn't Neil Strauss too in some open relationship?

Seems like people who make picking up girls their purpose of life either end up being sodomite cucksters or get the hangover that leads to a more meaningful purpose.
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RE: Anyone going to the 21 Convention
(06-06-2019 02:41 AM)loremipsum Wrote:  
(06-04-2019 02:48 AM)Rorogue Wrote:  Funniest thing was that the bald guy in the first video- Socrates, aka blue pilled Butterbean- said at the start of his talk that year that "Anthony's relationship is what we're all searching for. THIS is the pinnacle of successful masculinity"

He had a picture of Anthony and his wife on a slide that he kept going back to.

Then she turned out to be a BPD cheating freak. Rollo said he saw it from a mile away.

Must have been very embarrassing for Socrates, who is on twitter taking great glee in Rollo being banished
(06-04-2019 01:59 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(06-03-2019 10:28 PM)VNvet Wrote:  
(06-03-2019 10:03 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Huh. His ex was a "...former host of The 21 Report".
[Image: maxresdefault.jpg]

I skipped through a few of her interviews.

She usually covers her wedding ring when she puts her hands on the table.

That's almost always a sign of cheating. Watch out for women that do that.

There's not a pair of tits big enough in the world to disguise that billion-cock stare.

Amongst us mere mortals who are in no way living legends who would not see betrayal in the eyes of that she-beast a mile away?

What a joke. RSDTyler is also into cucking. Wasn't Neil Strauss too in some open relationship?

Seems like people who make picking up girls their purpose of life either end up being sodomite cucksters or get the hangover that leads to a more meaningful purpose.

When I started out with "Pickup" and joined some local lair which was insanely cringy in the first place, I was in their DayGame Whatsapp Group. The Group leader that basically organized everything in Switzerland, posted a picture of a hotel room and some women clothes on the floor.

It was a typical Anthony Dream Johnson move. "Bruh look I had sex". Keep in mind this guy was in his early 30s and not 19 anymore. But it gets better.

People asked questions, what girl he picked up yada yada.
He said, he picked up one hot girl with a buddy of his and they all 3 went into a hotel room and made love with her. So a 3 some with a male. He also very harsh wrote in the chat: "Well I'm very masculine so I don't care to share a women". I immediately left the WhatsApp group and never ever was involved with "Pickup" again and went on the solo path which gave me tremendous more women doing it on my own.

A couple of months ago I saw all the pickup "Gurus" in our country again. They all between 30-40 and not one has a family. They still pick up trash women. The best decision I made is not to get involved in this community in real life ever again. I also have a feeling that on the 21 convention I would meet a lot of creepy people as I did in the past. A roosh V event in Europe would be the only thing I would pay money for it.
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RE: Anyone going to the 21 Convention
I attended last year. I found it to be pretty inspiring and took some good things from it. That being said, I'm largely convinced that Anthony is imploding.

Anthony has now burned bridges with two of his speakers, at least. The first was Richard Cooper. He had the Entrepreneurs in Cars discussion, and I think he still does. He was often on the Red Man Group. Anthony claimed that Richard made a lot of unreasonable demands regarding security at his event. Anthony insisted that his event was already plenty secure and told Richard Cooper to shove off. Now Anthony is burning another bridge. So, I figure Anthony may very well be the problem here.

Rollo was already much better known than Anthony before all this. Rollo had a following before partnering with Anthony and will continue to have that following. He is on a weekly radio show in Tulsa. He has three books out, and people are buying them. And, if Rollo is honest about this, he has a 23-year marriage to an attractive woman and did pretty well before getting married.

Rollo also developed the following in Poland. This is Anthony's whole reason for having the 21 Convention in Poland in the first place. Rollo has a following there, and they asked for a convention. Now Rollo isn't going to be in Poland. I bet those guys in Poland are pissed, and they should be. They paid for something, and now they won't be getting it.

There was a company called Vulkon. They used to run sci-fi conventions and invite actors and other celebrities as guests. They got in a big trouble for advertising guests who then didn't show. Someone filed a class-action law suit.

Anthony has advertised and sold tickets under the impression that Rollo would be at two conventions. The smarter move would be to keep Rollo on the schedule for both conventions and then quietly uninvite Rollo from all upcoming conventions. Instead, Anthony has lost Rollo at both conventions, anyone who wanted to see Rollo at those conventions, and at least one other speaker. Hotep Jesus has cancelled his appearance at 21 Convention because of this.

I naturally wonder what kind of contracts Anthony has with these speakers. Many contracts are quite clear. I almost get the impression that there are no contracts at all.

Not to mention, Anthony raised the first price from $999 to $1,499. The final price went from $1,999 to $2,499. The 21 Convention is really pretty outrageous price wise. I suspect Anthony is going to lose a lot of money this year.

Finally, Anthony is/was a follower of Ayn Rand. It shows. Ayn Rand burned about all of her bridges by the time she was 70. It looks like Anthony will burn all of this before he's half that age. It's a shame.
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Good write up, Puckerman.

It makes sense that the only reason 21 Con sold in Poland was because of Rollo. I don't think Polish fans would really know or care about any of the others.

Anthony is clearly deluded, thinking that people won't care if Rollo isn't there.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Poland gig becomes a farce.
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This whole video shows some seriously lacking social skills among the group. Rollo's attire is ridiculous and no socially adept guy would dress like that. He looks like a skinny old man trying out some 2000's era affliction attire.



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Looks like something Mystery would wear for peacocking to get into a masculine open relationship with a girl.
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The reason for Rollo's dismissal has surfaced:


He invited New York Times reporter Nellie Bowles to a private 21CON event even though he was told not to, putting everyone's identity at risk, presumably because he wanted media attention for himself or to bang the reporter, who has a Jewish physiognomy.

In other words, he put his entire standing in the manosphere on the line for this woman:

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^^^ WNRRFB (would not risk reputation for bang)
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I keep coming back to deepdivers post. You could spend MUCH less for a charity event and be surrounded by much more accomplished men and high value women then waste 2500 or 1500 or whatever for this ridiculous shit show.
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Yup, she's Jewish. (I can spot them with accuracy now.)


Heres the video where she tries to attend the event.




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How am I to take Rational Male books seriously if the writer is so thirsty he's willing to sabotage a mens movement for a woman?
It's all nice and dandy words but what fruits did the tree produce.
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