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(06-10-2019 11:07 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  
(06-10-2019 10:57 AM)doc holliday Wrote:  Fair enough, I know it's not your conference but since you were scheduled to speak, I thought I'd ask you what the deal with this thing was. All I know is that I can attend medical conferences for less and get way more of an ROI than listening to Rollo speak, hence my skepticism. Thanks though, I appreciate the candid answer.

Doc, I hear you and think the same way. We are not the customer.

One of the reason they went after Roosh is because he has the reach to turn a lot of their customers away from them and their business. That is why they tried to go after Roosh's mental health or whatever attacks they ran with. The last thing they want is people thinking there must be more to life than what they spent their lives building a business around. They are scared and now they are turning on themselves like a pack of rabid dogs.

Correct. The more financial interest that someone has in the manosphere, particularly with selling high-priced courses and conventions, the stronger they have attacked me, because if you follow me, I will take you in a direction where not only do you not need all that, but you won't even need much of my own work.

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Apparently people are willing to pay for this stuff. Maybe it's time to get roided up and pay a latina hooker with dead eyes and giant tits to follow me around pretending to be my wife while my actual wife stays at home with the kids.

Then I can do seminars for 2k a seat talking about what a friggin' Chad I am and sell my used jocks for 100 bucks so that the li'l players can rub them on their necks before they go on dates, ensuring a 42% greater chance of getting the bang. From what I can tell I'd still be less of a fraud than a lot of the current speakers.

I'll get a couple of other forum guys with wives and kids to follow suit and we'll call it the Chad Cad Dad Convention. We'll arrive in current model Land Rover Discoveries with suspiciously unused baby seats in the back and give serious lectures about topics like "how semen cures stretch marks, but only if your T is high enough" and "how to keep your mistress 9's and your family life separate."

Time to sell out and cash in.

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George Bruno stirring his (likely specially sourced from a lost amazon city) coffee with chopsticks at the beginning of every video of his; is one of the most pompous things I have ever seen, yet I can't articulate why.

Get on with it George.
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(06-10-2019 11:11 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I'll get a couple of other forum guys with wives and kids to follow suit and we'll call it the Chad Cad Dad Convention.

Or, Bushcraft with Neubache Dundee.

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(06-10-2019 11:11 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I'll get a couple of other forum guys with wives and kids to follow suit and we'll call it the Chad Cad Dad Convention.

Or, Bushcraft with Neubache Dundee.

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So this is the Manosphere?

I always suspected from reading the sites and the conversations here that I had very little in common with the Manosphere, which is why I haven't paid attention to it for a good four or five years now.

My old self would have uncharitably-read these guys as White Collar Hipster Fags, or to put it in terms of my recent life: they'd be standing around at the racecourse trying to pass untailored suits off as tailored, drinking the comped alcohol in the belief it gives them status, as their dates in the requisite little-black-dresses-they-can't-sit-down-in stagger off arm-in-arm to squat-pee in the grass behind the bins until the Female Muslim Security Guard comes to warn them off. As the group staggered out to hail a taxi to the next pub they'd agreed to reconvene at, the guys would see me cleaning the bins by the gate, and either pretend to be suddenly-interested in something else, or think that I would respect them enough to want to high five them for handing me their beer can, because he's 'down with the people', meaning he'd believe working class thugs would obviously think he's cool.

My contempt for this sort of thing is why I was a teenage socialist, until I realised everyone at the socialist meetings were simply the female version of that, but usually upper class, rather than middle.

Now, I'm more forgiving. We're all ridiculous human beings, really.
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(06-10-2019 08:02 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  


Holy shit, the guy with the eye patch sitting on the left side used to be a poster here. I forgot his username but he was really cool. IIRC he died of cancer sometime ago. Goddamn....
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(06-10-2019 08:20 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  
(06-10-2019 08:02 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  ...

Holy shit, the guy with the eye patch sitting on the left side used to be a poster here. I forgot his username but he was really cool. IIRC he died of cancer sometime ago. Goddamn....

Could it be "The Private Man" - same name as his old blog?
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Richard Cooper and Elliot Hulse look like real men - at least the kind you'd want to charge the money Johnson is charging. I've watched a few of Elliot's videos. He's recently "red pilled", but hes legit and is an actual family man.

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(06-10-2019 08:02 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  



So this is the Manosphere?
...

You know when Jack Donovan is talking about boning as a masculine habit, and the mastery of said habit, the sliding back and forth, being infectious, he's talking from experience.

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(06-10-2019 08:27 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Could it be "The Private Man" - same name as his old blog?

Yes, that's it!

Thanks.
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(06-10-2019 08:44 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  Richard Cooper and Elliot Hulse look like real men - at least the kind you'd want to charge the money Johnson is charging. I've watched a few of Elliot's videos. He's recently "red pilled", but hes legit and is an actual family man.

Man, it must be five years back now, I wrote on here about a Gay Male Nurse at my work who told a stunning and brave tale about having traumatic nightmares many months after a female coworker had lightly-touched his junk, and had decided that standing up to a 'workplace harasser' would make him a hero.

I burst out laughing, was later told I'd have to have 'sensitivity training' for laughing, so quit the job.

The Nurse in question was a dead ringer for Cooper there. That's why I laughed back in the day. The idea that all 6ft4 of that guy he could consider himself a 'rape victim' and be waking up in a cold sweat when he was lightly-stroked on the outside of his uniform by all 5ft2 (Tall and Wide) of the Female Coworker in Question was absolutely-ridiculous to me, and the fact he was taken seriously made me finally NOPE out of anyplace with human resources in future.

What exactly does a 'real man' look like in 2019 anyway, particularly when everyone seems to be about Affectation and Persona Curation?
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The manosphere personalities who have been bashing Roosh come across like SJW. Instead of addressing the issues Roosh is raising, they just spew personal insults
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Looking back at 21Con now, I noticed that Rollo always seemed to be taking notes. You should always be wary of someone who spends all their time taking notes. What was he taking notes about? With whom is he sharing these notes?

I really thought Rollo knew better than to do this.

I don't think he was trying to bang this chick. I suspect he just wanted publicity so he could sell more books.
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(06-10-2019 12:53 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  
(06-10-2019 11:11 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I'll get a couple of other forum guys with wives and kids to follow suit and we'll call it the Chad Cad Dad Convention.

Or, Bushcraft with Neubache Dundee.

My bushcraft is trash so I'm perfectly qualified to teach it on the shyster circuit.

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I think that having Ross Jeffries there somewhat invalidates whatever else they may be saying. I had dinner with him and a friend a couple of years ago, and meeting him in person was part of what made me realize how fruitless that path is in the long run. That’s not how I wanted to end up in my sixties, and it’s not how any other guy probably wants to end up either.

He is very charming and charismatic in a superficial way, but he is totally alone in the ways that matter.

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A lot of the recent in-fighting on the right also has to do with the disappointment over Trump. I think once the realization that he’s nothing but a shit-talker set in, guys started turning on each other and so on. Probably more subconscious than anything, but still,
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(06-11-2019 02:41 AM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  I think that having Ross Jeffries there somewhat invalidates whatever else they may be saying. I had dinner with him and a friend a couple of years ago, and meeting him in person was part of what made me realize how fruitless that path is in the long run. That’s not how I wanted to end up in my sixties, and it’s not how any other guy probably wants to end up either.

He is very charming and charismatic in a superficial way, but he is totally alone in the ways that matter.

That's a great example of why game, without the deep inner change necessary, will leave you unfulfilled and unhappy. Doing the same dumbass routines over and over again doesn't build you as a man.

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(06-11-2019 08:56 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  A lot of the recent in-fighting on the right also has to do with the disappointment over Trump. I think once the realization that he’s nothing but a shit-talker set in, guys started turning on each other and so on. Probably more subconscious than anything, but still,

Also, the deplatforming. The pie is shrinking, so now the crabs are squabbling over who gets the last pieces.

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(06-11-2019 08:56 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  A lot of the recent in-fighting on the right also has to do with the disappointment over Trump. I think once the realization that he’s nothing but a shit-talker set in, guys started turning on each other and so on. Probably more subconscious than anything, but still,

He has plenty of accoplishments: http://www.magapill.com/ and https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-adminis...lishments/
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This video almost comes off as a parody of the 'manosphere'.

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(06-12-2019 04:25 PM)Fuchsia Wrote:  
(06-11-2019 08:56 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  A lot of the recent in-fighting on the right also has to do with the disappointment over Trump. I think once the realization that he’s nothing but a shit-talker set in, guys started turning on each other and so on. Probably more subconscious than anything, but still,

He has plenty of accoplishments: http://www.magapill.com/ and https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-adminis...lishments/

I'll let RamZ answer this:




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(06-12-2019 08:01 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  
(06-10-2019 08:02 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  


This video almost comes off as a parody of the 'manosphere'.

Dude in the white jacket looks like a real life Jrock

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(06-12-2019 11:17 PM)Repo Wrote:  Dude in the white jacket looks like a real life Jrock

Lol my main key take away from looking the the 21 convention picture of speakers is that most of those guys look like they are peacocking and I wouldn't want to take advice from any of them based on that. They could all use dressing help.
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(06-10-2019 09:46 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  
(06-10-2019 08:44 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  Richard Cooper and Elliot Hulse look like real men - at least the kind you'd want to charge the money Johnson is charging. I've watched a few of Elliot's videos. He's recently "red pilled", but hes legit and is an actual family man.

What exactly does a 'real man' look like in 2019 anyway, particularly when everyone seems to be about Affectation and Persona Curation?

Think of it in a marketing sense as to what a "real man" might look like if you are trying to sell tickets for 2k$ and need to show the best possible image.

A 70 year old wizened white bearded whose led a full life is likely also to be a real man, probably more so then anyone at this conference but does he sell tickets?

"Be a leader and never ever follow" That's what my father, that's what he always told me. So with those words boldly spoken, he sent me down a long and hard road.

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