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RE: Who are the best to learn from in 2018?
Thanks for reviving this necro thread

Was worth it just to see Gun smack Corsega around a bit.

Most of the good stuff these days is in forums and personal accounts of guys where you can lift tech.

If you’re getting chicks in NYC night stuff then you prolly don’t need much material and you’re better off just hitting the streets and then reporting back to get advice on your infields. You’ll pick up new ideas to try out by just reading other guys who are killing it and trying new tech (mostly not here but NextASF has more interesting stuff)
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(11-25-2018 08:07 AM)Black Caesar Wrote:  Thanks for reviving this necro thread

Was worth it just to see Gun smack Corsega around a bit.

Most of the good stuff these days is in forums and personal accounts of guys where you can lift tech.

If you’re getting chicks in NYC night stuff then you prolly don’t need much material and you’re better off just hitting the streets and then reporting back to get advice on your infields. You’ll pick up new ideas to try out by just reading other guys who are killing it and trying new tech (mostly not here but NextASF has more interesting stuff)

Yes, he really "smacked me around" by claiming he sleeps with 8s with pure verbal game bro, until we discovered:
1. He lies to them about his job (status)
2. He thinks 7.5s are 10s

Forums are good for broad stuff. Hard for the technical stuff. Personal accounts of guys are biased and self-serving.

The only real way to get better is to analyze video/audio infield and/or go out with guys who are good in perosn.

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RE: Who are the best to learn from in 2018?
Nah if you’re smart and have any balls you can go out and try tech for yourself to see what works and what doesn’t.

If you had taken any time to try Gunwitch stuff you would prolly learn something and actually get better.

As it is why would I take advice from a guy who is self-admittedly mediocre and shits on good tech in favor of saying that looks and Fame are the key?

I could care less if Gun is totally blowing smoke out his ass cause his tech works.

Even a simple example of influence ju jitsu I lifted from him (saying “oh that reminds me” before switching topics - 100% undefeated phrase by the way, try it some time) is way more value than I’ve gotten from any of your posts.

Anyway there are things like that you can easily get from reading around what other dudes are trying in field.

Get good bruh.
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(11-25-2018 05:13 PM)Black Caesar Wrote:  Even a simple example of influence ju jitsu I lifted from him (saying “oh that reminds me” before switching topics - 100% undefeated phrase by the way, try it some time) is way more value than I’ve gotten from any of your posts.

Saying "oh that reminds me" before switching topics is tech now?

Boy, I guess I've been gaming my whole life without even knowing it. So have my parents, extended family, and all of my friends.

P.S. to be clear, I never said anything about Gunwitch's "Game". I merely said that his claims were exaggerated and the fact that he seems to take no care as to his appearance betrays a major problem for someone that is selling coaching.

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>>Saying "oh that reminds me" before switching topics is tech now?

LOL you whippersnappers might not know it, but I heard people doing that back in the 1960's and even then it wasn't new.

Gunwitch's idea that hosptals (and doctor's and dentist's offices) is the place the look for top quality women is intriguing. I did have a pretty young thing give strong IOI's at my last dentist office in Ukraine, but I only realized it later. My mind was occupied with other thoughts (concerning my teeth) at the time. Not sure what Gunwitch usually looks like. That mug shot I the internet looks horrible. Just can't imagine a guy looking like that having success with clean cut dental hygienists. Then again, he does make some good points.
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Yeah except none of that really matters if shit works.

But then doesn’t seem like you would try working stuff even if it slapped you in the face.

Sex talk, three keys, etc etc. All stuff that could help you if you went out in tried it instead of shitting on things to stay in mediocrity.

Don’t let me convince you though. Keep doing you if it’s getting you results you’re happy with to get mid grade chicks from online and limited chicks you’re interested in on nights out.
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As for the mugshot I put up a link to a current photo earlier in the thread. Come on I'd just been in a bloody melee lost my hat and ran through a snow storm for christs sake Angry. There's 30 other pictures of me out there. On my own website even! Like I said I smell an agenda picking the very worst one.

On the "that reminds me" thing there's a LOOOOT more to my game than that guys come on, BC even said a "small example".

As for the lying to women thing AGAIN....

When did getting pussy become an exercise in ethics? I mean this is kind of a lowbrow pursuit in general. We aren't creating high philosophy or codes of living for the masses. Anyway unless you're looking for a long-term girl it doesn't really matter at all, it just allows her to put you in the proper place in her mind as "ok to fuck" with less fuss. Which by the way lying about what you do and fucking her then admitting it later isn't usually a deal breaker.

Now the bigger deal in all of this is,

There are two things wrong with rating women and rating yourself.
There's what's going on in your head, your visual cognition about what you are seeing in her features and genetics. What she is seeing in your genetic makeup, which tastes again vary, people have fetishes and hang-ups. That's JUST to relay to me or for me to relay to you what my own personal perception is!

THEN in her sense of entitlement/desire combined AND her self-perception of what she is worth of or will settle for x q2 +???? ........

LOTS of factors.....

So simplify it to scale of 1-3

1: Guys shouldn't be fucking them if they are involved in any of this./She probably knows shes shit. classic 1-4

2: Guys shouldn't brag of fucking them as a player/pua etc, unless they themselves would be a 1./She is probably very confused about her value and mens perception of her in general and what she deserves in quality of men. Classic 5-7. I'll do it if they give me an AI or hang around socially depending on if there's some sexy feature she has and isn't fat.

3: Classic 8-10. The purpose of being a pua, a player, sex grifter. She could do porn, and not get booked only for gangbangs, above average looking girl.

You're doing something out of the ordinary if you are fucking them, not just hooking up as a "3" yourself via volume approaching/tinder/social circle etc./HERE IS THE BIG TAMALE... She knows she is a "hot chick" at some level and feels she deserves something extra out of a man. THAT'S the only difference in psychology/difficulty that matters for the purpose of a guy getting more pussy!

So you may think she's a 9.5 some other guy might think she's an 8 or whatever, but it doesn't change her "difficulty level" as if she has a certain score or stat number like a video game. SHE DOESN"T KNOW what she "is" in a broad sense, and she ISN'T anything specific to any guys. She gets mixed reactions based on THIER perception. So what becomes valid "ways of dealing with hot chicks" only becomes invalid when the guys good looking and fucking 2s on this scale (like a lot of tinder game guys) or the guys out pigging 1s or has SUPER low standards. That chick you posted wasn't some bland dumpy girl or some pig. If you can fuck her you can fuck any chick, she's in the 3 category treatment by society and LIKELY self perception wise.

To hammer the point, I have a long time friend in the community who only likes small petite blonde women. I like them also, but I don't have a strong preference there, and sometimes i'll say a celebs hot, or fuck a chick that I know isn't his type at all, and he knows the difference too, he doesn't instantly go "dude you fuck 7s". Preference, self perception yadayadayada, you aren't everybody, your perception of a chick doesn't define her criteria or difficulty to lay by men in general.

Pete Davidson banging Arianna Grande is a hell of a lot more impressive than Ryan Reynolds fucking Blake Lively. If they swapped bodies when they met their respective chick, i'm sure Pete woulda banged blake. Would Reynolds have as Pete banged Arianna? Probably not personality and game wise.

This stuff is just average basic understanding of attraction between men and women to me. I've been doing this a long time though, so I guess it's worth explaining vs the perception of 1-10s, and .5s playing into her difficulty level etc just not being real. There are too many variables to make any judgements of a guys game or skill level on a scale like that.

Can the guy fuck hot chicks and he "shouldn't be". If not don't even bother to analyze his "game" "way he acts". Guys like Brent Smith, for example, could hook up with 8-10s, we are talking pickup not hookup. Flip side, does x technique elevate me closer to getting in the next "bracket"? Then use it. Another issue in the same realm is if you can fuck in bracket 3, but not little blonde petite women? THAT'S WEIRD, you are tripping over your own feet, because if you can fuck all other "bracket 3s" but not those, it's you altering your game with them.

To deeply grasp the game and get good, these concepts need to be really autopilot understood or you are living in an alternate perception that just isn't productive. It's like your eyes tuning in visually to radio waves and trying to navigate this space and walk around with Miley Cyrus songs as a rainbow of color in your eyes instead of the physical shape of a chair you are about to trip over.

Dramatic maybe, but understanding these false ideas of 1-10 ratings, your perceptions of her as if she's the final boss of a video game and you'll be beneath her on the 1-10 scale by 2.5....... That isn't reality. That stuff is a weird construct by internet geeks. Early puas etc.

"She will not accept beta sperm because she is of power level..." isn't reality, it's completely unreliable scientific theory from studying animals and caveman behavior. Regurgitated bullshit like this is everyplace.

It really is dire to getting out there and making an effort, realizing possibilities, breaking down your own cognitive dissonance. It's part of the power of cold approach also, is the variety you'll encounter to show you how much bullshit these sperm wars, and looks scales, womens hive mind, and other mainstream shit really are.

In addition once you realize how much of it is armchair theorizing vs the reality of the field and womens actual reactions and preferences and wide variety of personality styles and reactions to your personality style......

You'll hear philosophers and scientists regurgitate the same bullshit and lose all respect for them as knowing what the fuck they're talking about, because you'll know they are just quoting all that shit so they are willing to talk out their ass!

Called the red pill for a reason, a reference to the Matrix thing. The problem is mgtow and incels etc, co-opted that, when theirs should be called the black pill or poison pill or shut-in pill, I dunno, but they are completely wrong about everything that has to do with women. Then it gets reinforced by Jordan Petersons and such who just read some book on it once and think they have women all figured out at some comfortable little scientific level.

They haven't fucked hundreds and interacted with thousands in a sexual manner though.

I have and can tell you without a doubt:

They don't rate themselves vs you on any scale, it's a broad broad idea that might enter their mind. This is a false male construct. Men obsess on looks and tits and ass. Like I said women aren't masturbating to pictures of abs and cocks. Read a romance novel or 50 shades of grey for better insight into how emotional memory is stronger for women than visual arousal. Women have a reversed amygdala. The memory of arousal is stronger than arousal in the moment. They can turn themselves on for an ugly guy stronger than a great looking guy standing there can turn them on if they aren't infatuated with him. Again this looks obsession is a male construct and gets reinforced by porn movies where women lust after muscular mens bodies with no context of why the chick wants him.

They don't have a hive mind, social proof is for birds, not humans, birds can fly in formation, humans have to train for weeks to do a dance number. Each woman is one of about 30ish different personality styles. They tend to hate each other more so than "girl code conspire" against the "ugly betas"

"we have to shut down mens ability to pass on their genes unless they are the alpha elite" isn't a fuckin thing ok haha.

If it was there would be no biological diversity amongst human beings. If they bred based on height or status etc etc etc. There wouldn't be a bunch of dumb, ineffective fuckin people every place you turn. With height, everyone would be super tall and look similar like in African tribes where height or hunting ability will be a sole breeding criterion. Women aren't all thinking the exact same and working in tandem at ALL in 2018s complex social structures and HIGHLY diverse genetic makeup. The general feeling I get from most of them is THEY feel highly in competition with other women for ANY men. They seem to think in relationships, that even a guy like me (certainly not the handsome alpha 5%) will be stolen away by conniving other women. Their universal "thoughts on men" is less a hive mind and more a fuckin warzone.

Birth control has LONG taken away at an INTELLECTUAL level the sperm and reproduction "evolutionary imperative to be with one mate with high-quality survival genes" etc etc etc that makes scientists and DR Drew comfortable as a narrative. Women OUTRIGHT will SPEAK the words "I don't have to worry about getting pregnant, I'm on the pill so I can have fun", "I'd never marry a guy like that, or have his kids, but it was something to try" or a hundred other "I fuck random guys who have shit genes at times because I was lonely after new years eve when my boyfriend stood me up". 100s of variations of "sex isn't that big of a deal because I'm on the pill", that biological drive to have the best only might be there, but they directly and purposefully counteract it to fill other needs than reproduction

You gotta see through all this regurgitated bullshit "science" and go out and meet women, take her as you find her, not as a "woman" but a living breathing individual with her own agenda, give her an intense experience so she can feel something for you, and try to get her alone and get your head between her legs. If not you're just keyboard theorizing and missing out on a lot of sex with a lot of hot chicks.


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Brent Smith the pua that looks like a model by the way. Not the singer, that'd be random. question
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(11-24-2018 04:08 PM)Repo Wrote:  I like this guy. Isnt focused on pick up that much, but alot of relationship stuff, finding your purpose, and general improving your life type stuff. He gets deep into developing your overall masculinity versus just game stuff.




I second this in generous helpings. Watched a lot of this guy's stuff over the past year.

Really solid, genuine vibe and his insights, while focused on the same basic principles, are legit and consistent - continually brings me back around to things I've forgotten and keeps me on track. Also like his focus on authenticity in good intentions. No "dark triad" basement badass stuff here.

He doesn't mask the nature of women but he doesn't get negative about it either.

Only caveat, I would say, is that he is almost a bit too forgiving of women with promiscuous histories and applies a bit too much PC treatment to stuff like getting in relationships with single mothers, etc. He will be especially relevant to men operating in the West who want to just maintain their sanity in a society of promiscuous women and have some fun without a) taking it too seriously and b) getting negative and bitter.

Still a solid mindset to emulate overall and his advice is mostly golden. Perhaps not for those who are completely lost with women but will definitely help a guy really build and convey an abundance mentality that works in his favor.
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Yup, online dating is most certainly a scam. It’s sad that 99% of dudes who post on pickup forums don’t have the confidence to do pickup IRL, and instead resort to swiping right from behind a screen.

Online dating is for beta cucks who seek to avoid taking action in the real world.

Our fathers, who approached our mothers, are appalled at our weak-minded generation.

Regarding the topic at hand, for actual cold approach, Todd V is the best.

Glad Gunny, a dude who preaches action, is bringing a reality check to this forum. Smile
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(12-13-2018 11:05 PM)GoingHAM20 Wrote:  Yup, online dating is most certainly a scam. It’s sad that 99% of dudes who post on pickup forums don’t have the confidence to do pickup IRL, and instead resort to swiping right from behind a screen.

Online dating is for beta cucks who seek to avoid taking action in the real world.

Our fathers, who approached our mothers, are appalled at our weak-minded generation.

Regarding the topic at hand, for actual cold approach, Todd V is the best.

Glad Gunny, a dude who preaches action, is bringing a reality check to this forum. Smile

What a sad, tribalist mentality you hide behind, friend.

Pretty much every guy on this forum who does online game also does in-person game.

But feel free to devote yourself to a dying art. We'll be over here hoarding all the poon.

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(12-13-2018 11:38 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(12-13-2018 11:05 PM)GoingHAM20 Wrote:  Yup, online dating is most certainly a scam. It’s sad that 99% of dudes who post on pickup forums don’t have the confidence to do pickup IRL, and instead resort to swiping right from behind a screen.

Online dating is for beta cucks who seek to avoid taking action in the real world.

Our fathers, who approached our mothers, are appalled at our weak-minded generation.

Regarding the topic at hand, for actual cold approach, Todd V is the best.

Glad Gunny, a dude who preaches action, is bringing a reality check to this forum. Smile

What a sad, tribalist mentality you hide behind, friend.

Pretty much every guy on this forum who does online game also does in-person game.

But feel free to devote yourself to a dying art. We'll be over here hoarding all the poon.

You say that most guys on here do pickup IRL then you call it a “dying art.”

Which one is it?

And how can you call pickup a dying art? That is absurd. Women are all over the place and always will be, as they have to go to school, work, grocery shopping, errands, etc.

Talking to people is a dying art? LOL. That says a lot about your outlook into socializing.

Pickup will always thrive as long as people exist.

There’s also the fact there’s zero competition since no one does it.

Everyone, however, does online dating. That’s the dying “art,” although there’s nothing artistic about it. Did you not see Roosh’s video on the Tinder Trap? Even a 4/10 is receiving 50 or so swipes a day on that garbage. That’s well over 1,000 men per month. It is by far the least effective way to meet women. Chock full of catfish, decade old photos, trannies, fake profiles, escorts...I can go on and on.





Online dating is only effective if you’re looking to go dumpster diving.
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(12-13-2018 11:45 PM)GoingHAM20 Wrote:  
(12-13-2018 11:38 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(12-13-2018 11:05 PM)GoingHAM20 Wrote:  Yup, online dating is most certainly a scam. It’s sad that 99% of dudes who post on pickup forums don’t have the confidence to do pickup IRL, and instead resort to swiping right from behind a screen.

Online dating is for beta cucks who seek to avoid taking action in the real world.

Our fathers, who approached our mothers, are appalled at our weak-minded generation.

Regarding the topic at hand, for actual cold approach, Todd V is the best.

Glad Gunny, a dude who preaches action, is bringing a reality check to this forum. Smile

What a sad, tribalist mentality you hide behind, friend.

Pretty much every guy on this forum who does online game also does in-person game.

But feel free to devote yourself to a dying art. We'll be over here hoarding all the poon.

You say that most guys on here do pickup IRL then you call it a “dying art.”

Which one is it?

And how can you call pickup a dying art? That is absurd. Women are all over the place and always will be, as they have to go to school, work, grocery shopping, errands, etc.

Talking to people is a dying art? LOL. That says a lot about your outlook into socializing.

Pickup will always thrive as long as people exist.

There’s also the fact there’s zero competition since no one does it.

Everyone, however, does online dating. That’s the dying “art,” although there’s nothing artistic about it. Did you not see Roosh’s video on the Tinder Trap? Even a 4/10 is receiving 50 or so swipes a day on that garbage. That’s well over 1,000 men per month. It is by far the least effective way to meet women. Chock full of catfish, decade old photos, trannies, fake profiles, escorts...I can go on and on.





Online dating is only effective if you’re looking to go dumpster diving.

>> go to school

Online classes.

>> work

Remotely

>> grocery shopping

Instacart

>> Errands

Taskrabbit

Trust me. I'm living in San Francisco. This is a gateway into a hellish future. Women are less comfortable being approached on the street than they were before. That is, if they even leave the house.

I don't encounter catfish.
I don't encounter decade old photos.
I swipe left on trannies.
I don't see escorts.

If all you're getting online is scraps, time to improve your value.

Or, ya know, the "dying art" thing.

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It is estimated that Tinder has about 57 million users worldwide. On a population of 7 billion that is not a lot. There are twice as many males as females on Tinder.

Just saying.

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Online never worked for me at ALL unfortunately, but i'm facially kinda ugly lol. Tinder etc IS amazing though, and I don't judge people negatively for exploiting it if they are handsome, at all. Some of my friends have hit close to triple digit lays with tinder alone, simply as a result of having a handsome face/profile pic. I get like 1 match every 2 months though, so it's not for me lol!

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(12-14-2018 05:11 AM)subterfuge Wrote:  Online never worked for me at ALL unfortunately, but i'm facially kinda ugly lol. Tinder etc IS amazing though, and I don't judge people negatively for exploiting it if they are handsome, at all. Some of my friends have hit close to triple digit lays with tinder alone, simply as a result of having a handsome face/profile pic. I get like 1 match every 2 months though, so it's not for me lol!

That's tough man. Did you try tinder outside of the UK or get tinder plus and swipe somewhere else than your current city/swipe outside of the country?
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(12-14-2018 05:38 AM)firat113 Wrote:  That's tough man. Did you try tinder outside of the UK or get tinder plus and swipe somewhere else than your current city/swipe outside of the country?

Hey. No, tbh. Only even in my home town.
I've made my peace with it though. It's a good looking guys game. It's all good

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RSD Julien's "Ten Game" is a game changer, so to speak. He's excellent at self-amusement while projecting dominance.

RSD Max's content on YouTube has generally pretty solid advice, especially with inner game. His premium series "The Natural" is also very solid. Some things in there I disagree with though.

Like anything, take these with a grain of salt. It's easy to get sucked into thinking these guys can do no wrong. Field test everything.
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(12-14-2018 04:07 AM)BadBoyGamer Wrote:  It is estimated that Tinder has about 57 million users worldwide. On a population of 7 billion that is not a lot. There are twice as many males as females on Tinder.

Just saying.

I actually think it might be much more than 2:1. I ran a test in Mazatlán, Mexico earlier this week, There were 2184 male profiles and 255 female profiles (8.56 to 1 ratio).

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12-14-2018 01:11 PM
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Corsega, you live in Man Francisco?!

Oh, Lord. Now I see where you’re coming from. That city is an absolute dumpster fire. Went there last year. It was an SJW hellhole and it was difficult to find any girl above a 3. Easily the least attractive women of any major city in North America.
12-14-2018 01:38 PM
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>>So simplify it to scale of 1-3

I'll further simplify it.
1 = you have no desire for her or are repelled by her
3 = you want her, maybe forever, maybe just for ONS, maybe you know she is ugly in the eyes of other men, but you personally want her
2 = you find her attractive, but not strongly so, and you know you'll be anxious to get away from her as soon as sex is over

Not that this scale is about what attracts you, not what the commentators on RVF or elsewhere think about the girl (or old woman, if you go for that). Some type 1 women might be HB10's in the eyes of other men, but her personality clashes with yours.

Cases 1 and 3 are easy. Case 2 is what you have to watch for. Beginners may be forced to select type 2 girls to get experience. Or perhaps beginners can't tell the difference between 2 and 3. Experienced men should avoid type 2.
12-14-2018 06:20 PM
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(12-14-2018 01:38 PM)GoingHAM20 Wrote:  Corsega, you live in Man Francisco?!

Oh, Lord. Now I see where you’re coming from. That city is an absolute dumpster fire. Went there last year. It was an SJW hellhole and it was difficult to find any girl above a 3. Easily the least attractive women of any major city in North America.

Yup. It is the worst city for Game in North America. I have a massive blog post as to why this is the case in my drafts, just waiting for the right time to release it.

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12-14-2018 09:10 PM
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Corsega is right. For the immediate future online game is the way to go. I believe Real life gaming will become more "potent" as if you have actual game then women will find you twice as charming.

That doesn't change the fact that more women will sit at home and swipe than go out and actually meet guys.

Gen Z reportedly has more social anxiety than even millennials. If most guys want to game women 18-23 then they have to deal with that generation.

Plus here's the unfortunate truth. Online dating (tinder included) is a win-win for women. The 1-6's get almost as much attention as the 7's-10's. Girls don't have to cope with that fear of being the only friend without a guy because they can just go on tinder and have countless guys.

Its a lose-lose for men however. You work your ass off to be a high-value male. You spent hundreds of dollars on dates, profile pictures, etc. You do all this just to have a chance with a girl who probably had more dick than a nightwing comic.
12-14-2018 11:56 PM
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Quote:Plus here's the unfortunate truth. Online dating (tinder included) is a win-win for women. The 1-6's get almost as much attention as the 7's-10's.

It is not. It is a lose-lose proposition. Woman be getting lots of attention by guys for sure. But this is artificial attention. Pixels on a screen. But we human beings need real life human contact. And online cannot fulfill this need. In fact it only makes it worse because "online existance" lowers social skills, self confidence, self image gets screwed up and caused social anxiety.

Or to put it into other words: In the long run it will cause unhappiness and only makes it harder to connect in real life.

Quote:Gen Z reportedly has more social anxiety than even millennials.

The worst thing one with social anxiety can do is to avoid social situations.

Quote:For the immediate future online game is the way to go.

Only a small percentage of girls are actually on online dating sites (including Tinder). And higher quality girls have no reason at all to waste time online. In fact a lot of high quality girls do not even have Facebook. Obviously there is no way of knowing about these girls unless one meets them in real life, because they do not have a significant online presence.


Fact is that, by far, most people meet in real life and not online.

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12-15-2018 05:45 AM
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(12-15-2018 05:45 AM)BadBoyGamer Wrote:  It is not. It is a lose-lose proposition. Woman be getting lots of attention by guys for sure. But this is artificial attention. Pixels on a screen. But we human beings need real life human contact. And online cannot fulfill this need. In fact it only makes it worse because "online existance" lowers social skills, self confidence, self image gets screwed up and caused social anxiety.

Or to put it into other words: In the long run it will cause unhappiness and only makes it harder to connect in real life.
I Agree 100% but we both known women don't think in the long run. These women are getting a kick out of thousands of likes, thousands of men desiring them, but really wondering why they're still unhappy. They're still finding short term happiness out of online stuff. It's literally like a harmful drug

Quote:Gen Z reportedly has more social anxiety than even millennials.

The worst thing one with social anxiety can do is to avoid social situations.

Yes, I Agree for a man the best thing they need to do is daygame. However, my point is the women have social anxiety so they'll rather sit at home on the computer or phone and socialize. This means They are online. Every hunter knows to you have to find the prey and master working amongst the prey. That's why I say online game works best RIGHT NOW, because that is where the women are.

Quote:For the immediate future online game is the way to go.


Only a small percentage of girls are actually on online dating sites (including Tinder). And higher quality girls have no reason at all to waste time online. In fact a lot of high quality girls do not even have Facebook. Obviously there is no way of knowing about these girls unless one meets them in real life, because they do not have a significant online presence.


Fact is that, by far, most people meet in real life and not online.
Most girls I know that are around my age 18-28 (yes big margin but hey) Has a tinder. EVERY GIRL I know around that age has a instagram. In America atleast, the best way to meet girls is through Dming or tinder. UNLESS you're fortunate enough to still be in college or work with a chick that looks good.

Unfortunately the best way to meet women now is through tinder. Does that mean day game doesn't work? HELL NO I feel day game is far more superior and builds way more rapport.
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