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I urge everyone to stop using word "legalise". This world implies that what is not allowed is forbidden. The free western world is built on principle that what is not forbidden is allowed. Use the word "decriminalize" instead. Usage of the world "legalize" is a slow Overton window magick to create the slavish paradigm that nothing that is approved by state is good. be conscious of your language - language has the power to shape percieved reality and can reshape world. It's with such subtle and under the radar tools the occult elite rules the world.


As for Marihuana itself - I support decriminalization. It will foster a quicker natural/unnatural selection trough willpower. The more losers will use it to remove them selves from life the better will it be for highly motivated virtuous individuals with no tendencies to chemical addictions like me. Crimerate will be reduced as additional bonus.

Marihuana should be used as the permitted drug for masses instead of alcohol. Alcohol causes too much unproductive agression. With Marihuana the chemical abuse liking loser demographic will simply get stoned. A gradual substitution of alcohol by weed would be a great thing.
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11-06-2018 02:33 AM
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(11-06-2018 01:58 AM)scotian Wrote:  Canada's personal plant limit of four is indeed a bit stingy but modern growing methods can definitely produce enough bud per plant to keep a guy happy all year:




Also, in Canada it is legal to "share" cannabis, I really can't see myself buying much weed in the future because so many of my friends will be growing and I'd rather smoke theirs for free than buy corporate bud. It's still nice to be able to go to a local pot shop and buy a single gram if I want to but at $8-12 ($6-9 USD) it's a bit expensive when I can just go online and order an ounce for $85 ($65 USD) and it'll show up at my door in three days.

Sharing is legal in Uruguay as well. The thing they forbid is "pressing" flowers because that's what the Paraguayos do. There may be good curing and shelf life reasons to do so, but that's what the rule is now.

The thing is a good single cannabis plant can yield between 20 grams and 5 kilograms depending on variety. At present the highest yielding strains are all incredibly potent shit where a little bit of flower fucks someone up.

To the extent there is a devil in this deal it is that with prohibition driving maximum intoxication per gram of drug material. It isn't reasonable to expect a casual user to smoke a whole quarter gram as a bowl or "pinner" joint of today's mid to high level connoisseur shit without becoming profoundly intoxicated. There are mellower strains which offer a high along with enough CBD to partially antagonize receptors enough to keep shit mellow, but yields are on the plants are either lower or the plants don't autoflower which rules out low effort urban and suburban balcony grows.

I don't trust the trend High Times reports because it an advertising shit shovel, but a lot of legal US state users appear to be going for vapes, dabs, and other maximally disabling high potency extracts. Here in Uruguay people do talk shit about the Paraguay being weak, but it is consistent and there seems to be an underlying fear about the less predictable strength of the local weed. As it stands there is no evidence the Canadians are any more commercially capable than the very unindustrious Uruguayos.

If you live in an area where it is legal, there is little reason not to try to grow your own. Ordinary "Early Girl" tomatoes are going to be a harder grow by an order of magnitude than any autoflowering cannabis cultivar. Just... Very much like tomatoes the seeds genetics are going to have a strong influence on what kind of end product you harvest and how much you harvest. No cultivation method is going to give you much more than half a pound of a diesel cultivar out of four plants, but rumour has it that's good stuff.

There are a lot of small moving parts here, but none of them make more restrictions a better move than less for Trump. We have president Trump, not Micheal Bloomberg. The feds aren't capping soda possession. Agree and amplify wins the day here. Canada's cuck Truvada can't be allowed this easy win. If the Federal rules are more restrictive than any US state that went legal Trump is weak on the Federalism angle and everything indicates he is better than that. Any absurdly high Federal limits can be justified with a combination of Kennedy's humidor of Cubans and an appeal for states to take ownership of their own markets.

Not to mention... All the NPC's with impulse control issues going to smoke themselves off the board... Pantsuit stars like Seth Rogen seeing their cool fall to the level of the corner barstool drunk... So much space to win
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What can weed cross polinate with? Can you make thc tomatoes?

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(11-06-2018 03:03 AM)spokepoker Wrote:  What can weed cross polinate with? Can you make thc tomatoes?

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12-22-2018 08:05 PM
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I am such person who has always been against this drug.
I am not wanting to enter in the endless debate of "should we do or do that" but can someone tells me in which country or culture this drug is used for centuries and centuries .
After getting a list I will judge if that culture has been known for having done something great to humanity.

I see that many of you find this drug inoffensive but do you really believe that if it was a good thing they wouldnt try to push it in their agenda ? In my opinion the goal is to make every westerner an absolute slow , degenerate , addict idiot who will not even fight for himself and his family.
12-22-2018 09:27 PM
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@Polniy look up the history of prohibition of cannabis. It's a fairly recent (20th century) phenomenon.

Who is "they" that you're talking about, exactly? The globalists? The usual establishment powers are hardly pushing it. Marijuana is also banned by various international treaties with a few Western countries starting to disregard it in the last two decades. In the USA, it has been mostly a grassroots effort. The only federal lawmakers who have publicly supported it are not high-profile ones (Blumenthal, Rohrabacher, etc) -- it is not a politically correct position among the political establishment. You don't hear NYT, WaPo, HRC, Bloomberg, etc pushing for it.

If I had to compare it to another grassroots political change in the USA, it would be the movement to legalize concealed carry of handguns. Today if you go to Texas, you'll find fairly liberal laws for handguns, but carrying them in public was outright banned one point in the 80s, even in Texas of all places. Few people who talk about "American gun culture" realize how drastically the concealed firearm laws have changed in the past 30 years.
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(12-22-2018 09:27 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  I am such person who has always been against this drug.
I am not wanting to enter in the endless debate of "should we do or do that" but can someone tells me in which country or culture this drug is used for centuries and centuries .
After getting a list I will judge if that culture has been known for having done something great to humanity.

I see that many of you find this drug inoffensive but do you really believe that if it was a good thing they wouldnt try to push it in their agenda ? In my opinion the goal is to make every westerner an absolute slow , degenerate , addict idiot who will not even fight for himself and his family.

It was used in the old Turkish empire longer than Muhammed worship, and it found fans in the Central Asian/Caucasian raiding tribes that helped to make Eastern Europe great. It's an alt-booze and historically it has helped to keep marginal underclasses marginal underclasses. In Latin America it has played a similar role, I can't recommend anyone aspiring to great things take up a cannabis habit.

As a social good keeping cannabis around helps to promote social tranquility by giving people who give up a way to get feel good brain chemicals in a way that cements their marginalization. In any society there are going to be losers that suck. Do you want those losers to be cunning and desperate opiate addicts constantly stealing everything and gutting infrastructure for copper and supporting CIA drug traffickers, or do you want the losers to be lazy, clumsy stoners getting high on their mom's backyard grow.

Yes, a greater percent of the dry weight now is active drug, but ingestion methods have changed as well.

Anyways, you can't have a society with nothing but alphas. The alphas can have clubs, but even after you fill all the jobs, there are going to be warm bodies not in real employment. Letting them drug themselves is kinder than simply tossing them on the burn pile.
12-23-2018 10:35 AM
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Decriminalizing marijuana is a good first step to ending the HW Bush war on drugs. The reason it’s illegal has more to do with the prison industrial complex wanting more and more money for prisons and more people in prison

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(12-23-2018 11:33 AM)eradicator Wrote:  Decriminalizing marijuana is a good first step to ending the HW Bush war on drugs. The reason it’s illegal has more to do with the prison industrial complex wanting more and more money for prisons and more people in prison

I agree. I am in favor of decriminalizing/legalizing marijuana because the "War on Drugs" has caused far more damage to American society and the American people than the drug itself.
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(12-23-2018 10:35 AM)BBinger Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 09:27 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  I am such person who has always been against this drug.
I am not wanting to enter in the endless debate of "should we do or do that" but can someone tells me in which country or culture this drug is used for centuries and centuries .
After getting a list I will judge if that culture has been known for having done something great to humanity.

I see that many of you find this drug inoffensive but do you really believe that if it was a good thing they wouldnt try to push it in their agenda ? In my opinion the goal is to make every westerner an absolute slow , degenerate , addict idiot who will not even fight for himself and his family.

It was used in the old Turkish empire longer than Muhammed worship, and it found fans in the Central Asian/Caucasian raiding tribes that helped to make Eastern Europe great. It's an alt-booze and historically it has helped to keep marginal underclasses marginal underclasses. In Latin America it has played a similar role, I can't recommend anyone aspiring to great things take up a cannabis habit.

As a social good keeping cannabis around helps to promote social tranquility by giving people who give up a way to get feel good brain chemicals in a way that cements their marginalization. In any society there are going to be losers that suck. Do you want those losers to be cunning and desperate opiate addicts constantly stealing everything and gutting infrastructure for copper and supporting CIA drug traffickers, or do you want the losers to be lazy, clumsy stoners getting high on their mom's backyard grow.

Yes, a greater percent of the dry weight now is active drug, but ingestion methods have changed as well.

Anyways, you can't have a society with nothing but alphas. The alphas can have clubs, but even after you fill all the jobs, there are going to be warm bodies not in real employment. Letting them drug themselves is kinder than simply tossing them on the burn pile.
Spot on, BNW population control.

Better them on Cannabis than whatever SSRI type pill big pharma pushes.

I've never not had an enjoyable bang with a stoner chick, the thing doesn't sap their sex drive and they often showed feminine "chill" qulities, whereas chicks who I've found out to be on an Anti-D (before/during/after) = dull and boring, and comes with dealing with severe neurotic drama afterwards.

Same applies for CBD/Cannabis for pain vs. Big Pharma's poisoning of average people via opiods causing our current day fent crisis.

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I enjoy a good weed and am for decriminalization. but damn the weed culture is so obnoxious it makes me sick. I have no desire to meet a woman who regularly smokes.
It makes me wonder why Hollywood is pushing it so hard, but the above makes sense.
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(12-23-2018 11:33 AM)eradicator Wrote:  Decriminalizing marijuana is a good first step to ending the HW Bush war on drugs. The reason it’s illegal has more to do with the prison industrial complex wanting more and more money for prisons and more people in prison

Trump just signed the justice reform bill, which will give judges greater ability to reduce sentences in drug cases, especially canabis.

Also, legalize and decriminalize is not the same thing. Decriminalize implies its still illegal, just with reduced penalties. That may be a corruption of the word, but in many jurisdictions outside the U.S. and even a few in the U.S., such as NYC, that is how the word is used.
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