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Update: Ian Long was a machine gunner and decorated combat vet from the Afghanistan. I'm assuming that's where the obvious PTSD is from.

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If this is true:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/ca...e-13554551

Quote:A number of people at the Borderline restaurant in California where a gunman opened fire had survived the Las Vegas shooting, a friend claims.

That's some coincidence.

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(11-08-2018 07:27 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  If this is true:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/ca...e-13554551

Quote:A number of people at the Borderline restaurant in California where a gunman opened fire had survived the Las Vegas shooting, a friend claims.

That's some coincidence.

[conspiracy] MK Ultra agents or manipulated shitlibs? [/conspiracy]

Yeah I know what you mean.

The country music scene in SoCal is a very tight knit group.

After Route 91 the victims/survivors do almost everything together, especially road trips, concerts, celebrations.

Especially big are the country music festivals and concerts.

I've actually been to a few of the survivor meet ups, you wouldn't believe how much they act like a family.

It's super ironic and borderline final destination status, that they survived another shooting.

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Read he was divorced. Another casualty of the blue pill?
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Who are the people who were at both shootings? Do they have connections anywhere higher up in the political/business world? I know Thousand Oaks is relatively affluent so people can afford to travel but still seems crazy.

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The sad truth is that NOBODY FUCKING CARES. The mid-term elections are done. Unless the lame-stream- media can connect the shooter to Trump, this will be lost in the next news cycle perhaps to emerge in 2020.

Otherwise, now that the Dems have the house, there will be more howls to curb the second amendment.
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(11-08-2018 09:00 PM)66Scorpio Wrote:  The sad truth is that NOBODY FUCKING CARES. The mid-term elections are done. Unless the lame-stream- media can connect the shooter to Trump, this will be lost in the next news cycle perhaps to emerge in 2020.

Otherwise, now that the Dems have the house, there will be more howls to curb the second amendment.

The issue with this isn't Trump, or the last election. This is (probably) going to be a trigger for more attempts at gun grabs in California. Newsome, Pelosi, Waters, Wiener - they'll all be on this like stink on shit, using it to keep pushing their disarm California agenda.
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Don't we already have a mass shooting thread.

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Unless you are part of the elite there truly is no place to run. I'll admit I have posted on the location independent thread but this post really resonates that we can't keep running away. China wants to rule the Pacific and the US is in their way. They are playing the long game.

Islam wants to rule the world and Europe is a living example of what will happen if we don't push back. Once they dominate the infidels it seeks to kill each other. They too are playing the long game.

I think few realize that if President Trump can't get his act together mankind is going to be ruled by either commies or Islam. In a perfect world the Democrats would pay for their treachery.

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(11-08-2018 05:38 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  
(11-08-2018 05:16 PM)estraudi Wrote:  which had an extended magazine
Oh My gosh you guys we need a female to push legislation banning extended gun clippy things!

I'm pretty sure extended mags/clips are already outlawed in CA.

(11-08-2018 05:31 PM)kaotic Wrote:  @preator

^^^That's how country boys do it, they take care of their women, they ARE men, they aren't afraid to show it either. It's like American version of Machismo.

You'll notice that country music/bars/line dancing ain't just white chicks, especially in California, hotties from all sorts of backgrounds.

Brah, that's not even their women...just random girls. Those dudes are the real white knights...willing to take a bullet for some girl who won't remember them a couple months down the road. I'd take a bullet for the mother of my kids, my family....but some stranger at a club who is going to gobble stranger cock for Thanksgiving? Fuck no.


I agree completely here. It's one thing if they were shielding their wives or sisters or family friends or something. But it's clear the girls in the video didn't know these guys. Imagine not going home to your family tonight--people who you have actual obligations to--because you took a bullet for some random club skank. I'm embarrassed just thinking about it. They threw themselves in front of bullets for random pussy because in that moment they viewed themselves as no more than meat shields.

Because that's what you are in society where the male traditional role is debased and taken for granted while women shirk theirs. And men continuing to play by those rules when the game has changed doesn't help matters, in fact it only exacerbates the ridiculous anti-male environment we have now. White-knighting is a potentially very dangerous and costly social display--traditional societies acknowledged this and were willing to provide incentives for it because they regarded their men as more than just meat puppets. Those days are quite obviously done.

If these guys weren't protecting minor children, family or close friends then, frankly, they ought to be ashamed.

And RIP to the victims--no one deserves to die like this.

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(11-08-2018 09:31 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  a mass shooting thread

The absolute state of the world we live in.

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(11-08-2018 10:49 PM)the Thing Wrote:  
(11-08-2018 09:31 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  a mass shooting thread

The absolute state of the world we live in.

The absolute state of mankind since they learned how to kill with rocks instead of their bare hands.

This is normal. What has made it seem otherwise is three generations of sending our killers abroad rather than fighting our enemies at home.

We are civilisational faggots.

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(11-08-2018 11:19 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The absolute state of mankind since they learned how to kill with rocks instead of their bare hands.

This is normal. What has made it seem otherwise is three generations of sending our killers abroad rather than fighting our enemies at home.

We are civilisational faggots.

Not sure what you're talking about. This guy murdered 13 people and then killed himself. This is not natural human behavior.

Throughout history, men who kill have been driven by some type of motive. Whether war for territory, for their nation, for religion, for women, whatever. There is some type of incentive involved. Despite how awful the Muslim jihadists are, at least one can understand how they justify their killings. They truly believe that the are committing god's work and have 72 virgins waiting for them when they die.

This man stood for nothing. Nothing whatsoever. Just like the guy who committed the Vegas shooting, the pilot who crashed the Germanwings plane, and [unfortunately] many others over the past few years. They just want to murder as many people as possible, regardless of what happens to them.

And that is what is truly frightening to me. The fact that there are people out there willing to go on a killing spree without any motive. I don't know why our society is suddenly breeding so many of these people, but I hope we can figure it out.
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(11-09-2018 01:08 AM)RDF Wrote:  
(11-08-2018 11:19 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The absolute state of mankind since they learned how to kill with rocks instead of their bare hands.

This is normal. What has made it seem otherwise is three generations of sending our killers abroad rather than fighting our enemies at home.

We are civilisational faggots.

Not sure what you're talking about. This guy murdered 13 people and then killed himself. This is not natural human behavior.

Throughout history, men who kill have been driven by some type of motive. Whether war for territory, for their nation, for religion, for women, whatever. There is some type of incentive involved. Despite how awful the Muslim jihadists are, at least one can understand how they justify their killings. They truly believe that the are committing god's work and have 72 virgins waiting for them when they die.

This man stood for nothing. Nothing whatsoever. Just like the guy who committed the Vegas shooting, the pilot who crashed the Germanwings plane, and [unfortunately] many others over the past few years. They just want to murder as many people as possible, regardless of what happens to them.

And that is what is truly frightening to me. The fact that there are people out there willing to go on a killing spree without any motive. I don't know why our society is suddenly breeding so many of these people, but I hope we can figure it out.

Like Jack Donovan says - it's the Empire of Nothing. Not surprising that a culture whose primary value is Nothing would create those who would kill for that ideal.

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This happened close to my hometown. Same county.

Whether it's as the news reporting, or whether it's some deep state MK-Ultra operation...all I can say is that area is no stranger to violence. People have this stereotypical vision of Southern California as this dudebro paradise full of chill people, good vibes, and hot chicks.

It's not totally far off from that but there's always been an element of lawlessness and violence that hits the region periodically. There was the Golden State Killer that murdered 13 people and committed 50 rapes in the late 70s to the 80s. There was a series of stabbings committed in the beach communities, a particularly brutal series of murders where children watched their parents be stabbed to death.

There's always been gang conflicts around Oxnard and Ventura. Certain parts of my hometown, you just wouldn't go after dark. There's a beach area I used to hang out regularly, a promenade right on the water. Recently a father was stabbed in the neck while having dinner with his wife and his daughter in his lap, the patio section of the restaurant. A homeless psycho came up to him and killed him in front of everyone.

I can't comment on this ex-marine or this shooting. All I know is violence is not new to the area, and I've never looked back when I moved away.

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You wonder if this happens if his wife follows her marriage vows and helps him with his obvious demons. I have great-uncle that served in WW2, saw a lot of combat, and was wounded pretty bad late in the war. I won't go into details but children were no longer and option for him. His wife stuck with him for 50 plues years until her death, he had a lot of mental issues and could be a difficult person. God bless that woman. That shit won't happen nowadays, you could argue how men internalize the wars is different but it goes beyond that. Secular society has no time for people to stick it out in tough marriages. So you have a trained killer living with his mom, struggling alone through severe mental issues with a justified chip on his shoulder. Couple that with a society that has turned mass shootings into some strange social media martyrdom and its not shocking.

Another point is the argument against white knighting. Its an expected norm in western Christian society that men shield the weak from harm, if you want to live in the new age secular relativism then go ahead. It doesn't make it right and other will and should think less of you. I can't imagine a man pushing himself behind a woman and ever sleeping well again. I understand the rhetoric on this forum is strong but come on. I understand not interjecting yourself in arguments or even the mild physical confrontations of other couples in the current year, but there is a line. These women in these shootings won't be able to listen to shit feminism talking points ever again, without remembering that when it hits the fan, the men were the ones that stepped up.

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(11-09-2018 02:17 AM)Number one bummer Wrote:  You wonder if this happens if his wife follows her marriage vows and helps him with his obvious demons. I have great-uncle that served in WW2, saw a lot of combat, and was wounded pretty bad late in the war. I won't go into details but children were no longer and option for him. His wife stuck with him for 50 plues years until her death, he had a lot of mental issues and could be a difficult person. God bless that woman. That shit won't happen nowadays, you could argue how men internalize the wars is different but it goes beyond that. Secular society has no time for people to stick it out in tough marriages. So you have a trained killer living with his mom, struggling alone through severe mental issues with a justified chip on his shoulder. Couple that with a society that has turned mass shootings into some strange social media martyrdom and its not shocking.

Another point is the argument against white knighting. Its an expected norm in western Christian society that men shield the weak from harm, if you want to live in the new age secular relativism then go ahead. It doesn't make it right and other will and should think less of you. I can't imagine a man pushing himself behind a woman and ever sleeping well again. I understand the rhetoric on this forum is strong but come on. I understand not interjecting yourself in arguments or even the mild physical confrontations of other couples in the current year, but there is a line. These women in these shootings won't be able to listen to shit feminism talking points ever again, without remembering that when it hits the fan, the men were the ones that stepped up.

You may underestimate the inflation of female solipsism in the 21st century. Especially in Southern California.

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(11-08-2018 03:10 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  SSRI`s

If he had been on them, it's possible that he had been thinking about doing this for a while, then one day he wakes up suddenly feeling energized and driven and says this is the day.

It's very common in clinical depression patients that, once the meds start kicking in and give a sudden surge of motivation and self assurance, 1 in every 4 patient with suicidal ideation (who didn't have the drive to do it before) finally goes ahead and kills himself.

But of course, even if it shows up on the tox screen we won't hear about it, because how else can they keep prescribing that shit to every little snowflake who wakes up on the wrong side of the bed?

Fuck cognitive behavioral therapy, EMDR, EEG neurofeedback, or any government funded readjustment program right?

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it is the perfect plan for gun control. Destroy society, make everything that worth living for gone, bash man until some of them crack.

Then demand gun control because of the amount of shootings, while NPC's clap. Amazing

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(11-09-2018 03:26 AM)the Thing Wrote:  
(11-08-2018 03:10 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  SSRI`s

If he had been on them, it's possible that he had been thinking about doing this for a while, then one day he wakes up suddenly feeling energized and driven and says this is the day.

It's very common in clinical depression patients that, once the meds start kicking in and give a sudden surge of motivation and self assurance, 1 in every 4 patient with suicidal ideation (who didn't have the drive to do it before) finally goes ahead and kills himself.

But of course, even if it shows up on the tox screen we won't hear about it, because how else can they keep prescribing that shit to every little snowflake who wakes up on the wrong side of the bed?

Fuck cognitive behavioral therapy, EMDR, EEG neurofeedback, or any government funded readjustment program right?

You get a Zoloft, and you get a Zoloft, and you get a Zoloft. We all get a Zoloft!

I noticed that with Minassian they kept his answer to the; are you taking any medications,? "hidden." That info has not come out as of today. Of course he was in drugs, since he was diagnosed with autism, or whatever it was.

They`ve definitely become more restrictive and careful when it comes to the connection between psycho-pharmacological drugs and violence. Many people have understood this a long time ago, and the science is there also.

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(11-08-2018 12:56 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Truth will come out about his political views.

It would only be a matter of time until the leftist media like CNN, MSNBC, tries to blame this on Trump and/or the repubs.

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(11-09-2018 06:55 PM)2 Cool 4 U Wrote:  
(11-08-2018 12:56 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Truth will come out about his political views.

It would only be a matter of time until the leftist media like CNN, MSNBC, tries to blame this on Trump and/or the repubs.

They won't, doesn't fit the narrative.

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They'd have hardon if it was a conservative shooting up a gay bar.

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Is the news still harping on about this? If not - why not?

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