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(11-15-2018 08:09 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  So the Franco Somali antique nuke boats would never be able to get within targeting range of the USA - nor Canada as we get a lot of our winter weather patterns and fresh snowpack water from there so Canada benefits from geophysical proximity.

You mean, the US are protecting Trudeau and Canada for free, and Toronto's blue-hair dykes will live forever? We won't have a Franco-Somali caliphate selling Halal putines in Montreal?

Fuckthat2

Back to your MAD gear: it is reputed to not work if the submarine is deeply immersed, for a simple reason: "magnetic fields decrease in intensity as the inverse cube of distance". That is why I was describing a submarine getting up from the bottom of the sea only at the last moment, to launch its missile.

Plus, the "Franco-Somali" future State could just launch a missile on the oil fields of the Arab peninsula, that should destroy the world quite efficiently, bringing it to its knees. You see, there is no way around it: France is too big to fall, because of its military (which by the way is being quite systematically infiltrated by suburbs islamists, slowly climbing ranks)!

By the way, the life of the inventor of the MAD, is quite fascinating: meet Russo-French-American genius, Victor Vacquier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Vacquier

"Vacquier was born in St. Petersburg, Russia. In 1920, Vacquier escaped the Russian Civil War with his family, taking a horse-drawn sleigh across the ice of the Gulf of Finland to Helsinki Banana , then moving to France and (in 1923) to the United States.

during World War II he moved to the Airborne Instruments Laboratory at Columbia University, where he applied the fluxgate magnetometer, an instrument he had invented at Gulf, to submarine detection.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7] Following the war, he worked at Sperry Gyroscope Inc. developing gyrocompasses; then in 1953 he moved to the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology, where he worked on groundwater detection.[1][2][3] At Scripps, where he moved in 1957, he directed a program that used his war-surplus flux magnetometers to measure the patterns formed by the Earth's magnetic field on the sea floor; his discovery of large shifts in the patterns in the Mendocino Fracture Zone was a major impetus behind the theory of plate tectonics,[1][2][3][8] which his later measurements of heat flow on the sea floor also strongly supported.[1][2]

For his researches, Vacquier was awarded the John Price Wetherill Medal of the Franklin Institute in 1960, the Albatross Award of the American Miscellaneous Society in 1963, the John Adam Fleming Medal of the American Geophysical Union in 1973, the Reginald Fessenden Award of the Society of Exploration Geophysicists in 1976,[3] and the Alexander Agassiz Medal of the United States National Academy of Sciences in 1995 “for his discovery of the flux-gate magnetometer, and for the marine magnetic anomaly surveys that led to the acceptance of the theory of sea-floor spreading.”"
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(11-15-2018 07:30 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  
(11-15-2018 11:12 AM)balybary Wrote:  We can save a nuclear bomb about Marseille: the city is already in ruins, no need to nuke it from orbit.

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Is this for real? I've been to African slums that looked neater than this shit!

Yes.

Last week, people have made a march to protest about the deadly buildings in Marseille, and a balcony has collapsed in front of them.

https://www.euronews.com/2018/11/11/mars...rs-victims
Quote:Marseille building collapse: balcony gives way as city honours victims

Part of a balcony gave way in Marseille during a march to pay tribute to the victims of a deadly building collapse in the French city.

It happened as thousands turned out to honour the eight people who died when two structures came crashing down on Monday (November 5).

The death toll has been edging up over the last week as rescuers sifted through the debris of the city centre collapse.

Firefighters said three people were injured in the balcony incident on Saturday (November 10).

A woman, 59, and a boy, seven, both fell to the ground from the first floor, while a falling piece of debris hit a 24-year-old woman on the foot.

The state of numerous Marseille buildings is now under the spotlight after the deadly collapse last Monday.
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Trump is a good president for the US and for any french patriot. Most of the issues is that a lot of our degenerate elite has been formed by the USA . Look at all the French-american foundation award winners : they all
Turn out to be agents of globalism either in politics or in journalism . The goal is to bring US problems ( racial
Hatred and segmented society ) into the French society.
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To be honest I dont believe France will ever be great again.

If Trump or USA is smart, they would focus on solving their problems at home, they got their hands full already. Spending money on a lost cause, on people who don't want to be saved, is pointless.

I love the "idea of France" and its traditional arts, but the country itself is completely lost. True French people are around 65% of the population. And even these "true French" are not the best buddies with American. The French in general, being hypocrites as they are, despise and look down on anything American. Even your French exchange student in NYC would make the bitchiest NYC girl looks approachable. The general population hate the idea of masculinity, of using raw force or taking action to achieve goals. They hate everything the USA represent.

Even among the redpiller forum members here, GS is the only one that really have a strong positive opinion on USA.

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I don't get it OP. You want Trump to help France? He hasn't even delivered on his most basic promises right here in the US. Dude is so full of hot air it's a surprise he hasn't exploded yet.

Also, socialism is a red herring. You should be more worried about corporate tyranny and being dragged into another ME war by the God Emperor.

Bonne chance.

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(11-15-2018 08:39 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(11-15-2018 08:09 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  So the Franco Somali antique nuke boats would never be able to get within targeting range of the USA - nor Canada as we get a lot of our winter weather patterns and fresh snowpack water from there so Canada benefits from geophysical proximity.

You mean, the US are protecting Trudeau and Canada for free, and Toronto's blue-hair dykes will live forever? We won't have a Franco-Somali caliphate selling Halal putines in Montreal?

Fuckthat2

Back to your MAD gear: it is reputed to not work if the submarine is deeply immersed, for a simple reason: "magnetic fields decrease in intensity as the inverse cube of distance". That is why I was describing a submarine getting up from the bottom of the sea only at the last moment, to launch its missile.

Plus, the "Franco-Somali" future State could just launch a missile on the oil fields of the Arab peninsula, that should destroy the world quite efficiently, bringing it to its knees. You see, there is no way around it: France is too big to fall, because of its military (which by the way is being quite systematically infiltrated by suburbs islamists, slowly climbing ranks)!

By the way, the life of the inventor of the MAD, is quite fascinating: meet Russo-French-American genius, Victor Vacquier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Vacquier

"Vacquier was born in St. Petersburg, Russia. In 1920, Vacquier escaped the Russian Civil War with his family, taking a horse-drawn sleigh across the ice of the Gulf of Finland to Helsinki Banana , then moving to France and (in 1923) to the United States.

during World War II he moved to the Airborne Instruments Laboratory at Columbia University, where he applied the fluxgate magnetometer, an instrument he had invented at Gulf, to submarine detection.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7] Following the war, he worked at Sperry Gyroscope Inc. developing gyrocompasses; then in 1953 he moved to the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology, where he worked on groundwater detection.[1][2][3] At Scripps, where he moved in 1957, he directed a program that used his war-surplus flux magnetometers to measure the patterns formed by the Earth's magnetic field on the sea floor; his discovery of large shifts in the patterns in the Mendocino Fracture Zone was a major impetus behind the theory of plate tectonics,[1][2][3][8] which his later measurements of heat flow on the sea floor also strongly supported.[1][2]

For his researches, Vacquier was awarded the John Price Wetherill Medal of the Franklin Institute in 1960, the Albatross Award of the American Miscellaneous Society in 1963, the John Adam Fleming Medal of the American Geophysical Union in 1973, the Reginald Fessenden Award of the Society of Exploration Geophysicists in 1976,[3] and the Alexander Agassiz Medal of the United States National Academy of Sciences in 1995 “for his discovery of the flux-gate magnetometer, and for the marine magnetic anomaly surveys that led to the acceptance of the theory of sea-floor spreading.”"

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(11-16-2018 01:15 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  I don't get it OP. You want Trump to help France? He hasn't even delivered on his most basic promises right here in the US. Dude is so full of hot air it's a surprise he hasn't exploded yet.

Also, socialism is a red herring. You should be more worried about corporate tyranny and being dragged into another ME war by the God Emperor.

Bonne chance.

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Or buy into Bernie-OcasioCortez-Antifa Marxist Communist Socialism Radicals Anti-America agenda and throw your life away.

So suppose the Crooked Fag-Hag Hillary were POTUS where we would be? We would ALL BE PHOCKED!

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^ Your indecipherable posting aside, none of what you wrote actually benefits the average Joe. Tax cuts for the ultra rich and high-rise condos in Boston are not signs of America First to me.

I guess that makes me an "Obamunist"

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(11-15-2018 08:21 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(11-15-2018 08:09 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  
(11-15-2018 07:59 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(11-15-2018 07:38 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  OBTW We already have a fully functioning Space Force here and now and it can track and take out any Aircraft, Spacecraft, surface or submerged ship in seconds - hate to admit it but our Aircraft Carriers and Submarines have been made redundant by our Space Force Spacecraft Carriers years ago.

Just curious about the hypothetical and technical aspects here: How could a (US) Space Force intercept a missile launched from a (French-Somali) nuclear submarine having stealthily climbed up from the bottom of the sea, couple of miles off the coast of New York or Philadelphia? How would the US know the submarine is there, to begin with, and how could they intercept a missile having to travel just five or six seconds to its target? Genuinely curious here...

Google MAD gear laddie - Magnetic Anomaly Detection - moved it years ago from ASW P3 Orions to Space Force Satellites and Space Craft - in 2018 MUCH more sensitive and accurate than the 80's and 90's. So the Franco Somali antique nuke boats would never be able to get within targeting range of the USA

Doesn't matter though, as I guess the "Franco Somalis" of 2030 would just build a nuke right in the heart of Minneapolis, sheltered by US Somalis and funded by the Clinton Foundation, working with French-Somali nuclear engineers trained in Paris... Confused Globalization at its worst, if nothing is done to stop the decadency!

LOL I have family in Minneapolis who are dyed in the wool liberals. So the irony of your last response made me LMAORAOTF - As they say in once Gay Paris - Touche'!
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(11-16-2018 01:57 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  ^ Your indecipherable posting aside, none of what you wrote actually benefits the average Joe. Tax cuts for the ultra rich and high-rise condos in Boston are not signs of America First to me.

I guess that makes me an "Obamunist"

The Socialist Marxist Obamunist in you will love the New Brasilia-Caracas Favelas popping up all along the southern borders and Sanctuary States and Cities - so enjoy.

OBTW Massholechewsitz is a Sanctuary Phreaking State... so likely some favelas being created in the second tier cities Brockton, Fall River, New Bedford, Springfield. Lowell and Lawrence which is already DR del Norte... so there is hope for your Obamunist "Dreams of My Father" to come true eventually.
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A failing France state would undoubtedly de-nuclearize before it came to a "hunt for the Red Somali" type situation. South Africa and the ex-soviet states gave up their nukes when it looked like things were taking a permanent turn for the worse.

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(11-16-2018 01:37 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  LOL Look at My Avatar - I am in that photo... I am an OG High-Speed Nuclear Hunter-killer... There are some things I can not discuss - or I would have to Nuke you!

You can't nuke me, my friend, I'm hiding underwater aboard a French nuclear sub! Plus, you are Hitler (or well, Admiral Dönitz) literally, look at your rep points: 88!

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Seriously though, about submarines, 2 things:

First, let's spare a moment to remember, and pray for, the victims of the ARA San Juan, which exploded (or imploded?) exactly one year ago, location unknown, exact circumstances - shall we say it with a British accent? - "unknown". Confused

Secondly, I once spoke, a few years ago, with a man specializing in this field, and he told me, One cannot stop a nuclear submarine from launching a missile, but, problem is, this guilty submarine would have at some point to come back to its base, where the missing missile would be noticeable, and that is why no country would ever dare do that. - (well, unless the country becomes rogue!)

But my point was, and it is also in response to Dalaran's truthful post: OK, France maybe doesn't deserve to be saved, but, the whole world still has to save France. It might be the USA, or China maybe, or an alliance of countries that intervene, but, given the reach and power of French nuclear arsenal, the world has to protect the future of France, before it becomes Islamist.

So the question is not whether the world, or President Trump, really think we French deserve to be saved, the thing is, we have to be saved at all costs, for the world to survive. That's the whole idea of being "too big to fall", and of nuclear deterrence!


(11-16-2018 02:10 PM)Number one bummer Wrote:  A failing France State would undoubtedly de-nuclearize before it came to a "hunt for the Red Somali" type situation. South Africa and the ex-soviet states gave up their nukes when it looked like things were taking a permanent turn for the worse.

You have a point here. But, I'm thinking, good luck convincing France or its leader to give up their nuclear weapons, around 2030. If and when an Islamist or Mugabe president is elected, he certainly won't relinquish its nuclear weapons.

But you might be right, the just-defeated president could try and de-nuclearize before handing over the power. Problem is, there is only a short period of transition of power, in France after the elections - and destroying nuclear weapons would take time. Well, there is always the possibility of sending them into the ocean, near Kona and Tahiti, wouldn't be the first time either Blush

In any case, I like your movie title, Hunt for the Red Somali, movie of the year 2030!
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Illustration of the dangers of nuclear weapons left at the disposal of Alt-Left or Islamist politicians:

[Image: DsJ7ud4UUAAaAE4.jpg:small]

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-48360...pid1888095

See, if a Leftist politician in the US can threaten to unleash nuclear weapons on his own citizens Confused , what do you reckon would an Islamist, or commie, president do, with the French nuclear arsenal?

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-48360...pid1888107
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I feel your pain GS.

I’m in françe often and to me the signs are everywhere. Your country is done and no one cares.

It’s an image of what too much socialism does to a society in the long term. You need a new revolution because your current ruling classes are just as bad as the ones you guillotined all those years ago. I just wonder if your average Frenchman has the stomach for that anymore.

I don’t see that they do.
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Honestly, at the stage we are in the U.S. I couldn't give a fuck about France (no offense OP) and care a lot more about Trump doing what he can to MAGA.

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Let's see the most desirable women in the world on RVF are:

Latin America:
Columbia
Brazil
Argentina
Venezuela

Europe:
Norway
Sweden
Denmark
Finland
Germany
Austria
Spain
Switzerland
Montreal

Eastern Europe:
Russia
Ukraine
Belarus
Romania
Croatia
Czech Republic
Slovenia

SEA:
Korea
Japan
Vladivostok
Vietnam
China
Phillipines

When I grew up everyone wanted to get a Eurail Pass and hostel or train across Europe. The highlights were always London, Paris, Fr & It Riviera, Madrid, Barcelona, Zurich, Geneva, Oslo, Stockholm, Rome, and Athens. In 2018 who knew that Paristan and Londonistan, Germanistan, Spainistan, Italistan, and Greccostan would all become no-go zones due to North African, Middle Eastern, and Sub Saharan Christian-Hating Cultural Enrichment.

Of course, the Anglosphere and Francosphere now overrun with screaming unnatural colored haired phat-tatted SJW femicunts Sluts - never even made the list - Except for Montreal which is the last haven for feminine sexy women left in North America.
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(11-16-2018 06:36 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Illustration of the dangers of nuclear weapons left at the disposal of Alt-Left or Islamist politicians:

[Image: DsJ7ud4UUAAaAE4.jpg:small]

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-48360...pid1888095

See, if a Leftist politician in the US can threaten to unleash nuclear weapons on his own citizens: s , what do you reckon would an Islamist, or commie, president do, with the French nuclear arsenal?

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-48360...pid1888107

I noticed Fox News Glossy lipped Money Honey sloots all get the tingles over Swallowswell's Soap Opera Star good looks. Swallowswell, a standard issue Lefty Coast Califonicated Pelosi Democrat People's Socialist Communist likely another on China's payroll - needs to be really careful what he wishes for.
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(11-16-2018 09:31 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  To be honest I dont believe France will ever be great again.

If Trump or USA is smart, they would focus on solving their problems at home, they got their hands full already. Spending money on a lost cause, on people who don't want to be saved, is pointless.

I love the "idea of France" and its traditional arts, but the country itself is completely lost. True French people are around 65% of the population. And even these "true French" are not the best buddies with American. The French in general, being hypocrites as they are, despise and look down on anything American. Even your French exchange student in NYC would make the bitchiest NYC girl looks approachable. The general population hate the idea of masculinity, of using raw force or taking action to achieve goals. They hate everything the USA represent.

Even among the redpiller forum members here, GS is the only one that really have a strong positive opinion on USA.

Dont be captain save a hoe twice. USA did that in 1943, now look at how (un)grateful the French people are.

As a French citizen , I don't understand why you write all this crap. Check french history into details and you will see that always England/USA and their anglo-saxon buddies were trying to put our country down. Unlike most other countries , we have never bought the american way of life. We don't count the treasons the USA did to France , and of course you are focused about second world-war which is a purely jewish rhetoric.
If English/Americans were clever enough to share leadership with French , Russians and any other big superpower of that time , we would have the perfect world.
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(11-18-2018 11:01 AM)Ski pro Wrote:  I feel your pain GS.

I’m in françe often and to me the signs are everywhere. Your country is done and no one cares.

It’s an image of what too much socialism does to a society in the long term. You need a new revolution because your current ruling classes are just as bad as the ones you guillotined all those years ago. I just wonder if your average Frenchman has the stomach for that anymore.

I don’t see that they do.

What you have to understand is that in France everyone undergoes a "republican" (in the sense of the republique - human rights - herited from 1789 principles) propaganda since young age.
Many people are aware of the problems but cannot understand why it fails. The demographic will have us but there are many french people battling underground.
Cultural marxism has infested the country and people's mind + mass immigration of the MOST VIOLENT AND UNTRUSTABLE people doesn't help.
In addition the state is extremely repressive. If you have a semblance of good idea which would strengthen patriotism you wil lbe arrested even if you own a blog.

Contrary to what you think , the fact that France still exists is a prodigy. Any other country undergoing 10% of this immigration or propaganda would fail immediately.
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RE: President Trump and France, a difficult but crucial relation: Make France Great Again
(11-19-2018 04:54 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 09:31 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  To be honest I dont believe France will ever be great again.

If Trump or USA is smart, they would focus on solving their problems at home, they got their hands full already. Spending money on a lost cause, on people who don't want to be saved, is pointless.

I love the "idea of France" and its traditional arts, but the country itself is completely lost. True French people are around 65% of the population. And even these "true French" are not the best buddies with American. The French in general, being hypocrites as they are, despise and look down on anything American. Even your French exchange student in NYC would make the bitchiest NYC girl looks approachable. The general population hate the idea of masculinity, of using raw force or taking action to achieve goals. They hate everything the USA represent.

Even among the redpiller forum members here, GS is the only one that really have a strong positive opinion on USA.

Dont be captain save a hoe twice. USA did that in 1943, now look at how (un)grateful the French people are.

As a French citizen , I don't understand why you write all this crap. Check french history into details and you will see that always England/USA and their anglo-saxon buddies were trying to put our country down. Unlike most other countries , we have never bought the american way of life. We don't count the treasons the USA did to France , and of course you are focused about second world-war which is a purely jewish rhetoric.
If English/Americans were clever enough to share leadership with French , Russians and any other big superpower of that time , we would have the perfect world.

GS is a great guy, means well, upbeat poster with tons of energy, but at times really comes across as purple-pilled on key issues.

If you want to understand WWs 1 and 2, and the current rampant russophobia, it is really useful to understand Halford Mackinder's Heartland Theory, which is the basis of Zbigniew Brzezinski's Grand Chessboard policy writeup, where Zbig advocates the dismemberment of Russia into 4-5 pieces. The framework here is the battle between the mercantile Anglo-American seapower* and the land powers (Russia, Germany mainly). Germany has been destroyed and colonized, while Russia is resurgent.

One of the main events that precipitated WW1 was the German colonial expansion into the oil-rich mideast, through the Orient Express extension plans to Basra, Iraq.


*more precisely, the ruling elites of this power. It's a battle between (((Anglo-American))) capital/usury and continental European labor, in very broad terms. That's why the Anglo-Americans are not "clever enough to share leadership", while this would benefit their people, their elite would be marginalized -can't have that now-. E. Michael Jones, the smartest and most righteous American alive, has fleshed out this analysis in his book "Barren Metal", here's a short preview:





and a longer discussion:




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11-20-2018 03:10 AM
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RE: President Trump and France, a difficult but crucial relation: Make France Great Again
(11-19-2018 04:54 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 09:31 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  To be honest I dont believe France will ever be great again.

If Trump or USA is smart, they would focus on solving their problems at home, they got their hands full already. Spending money on a lost cause, on people who don't want to be saved, is pointless.

I love the "idea of France" and its traditional arts, but the country itself is completely lost. True French people are around 65% of the population. And even these "true French" are not the best buddies with American. The French in general, being hypocrites as they are, despise and look down on anything American. Even your French exchange student in NYC would make the bitchiest NYC girl looks approachable. The general population hate the idea of masculinity, of using raw force or taking action to achieve goals. They hate everything the USA represent.

Even among the redpiller forum members here, GS is the only one that really have a strong positive opinion on USA.

Dont be captain save a hoe twice. USA did that in 1943, now look at how (un)grateful the French people are.

As a French citizen , I don't understand why you write all this crap. Check french history into details and you will see that always England/USA and their anglo-saxon buddies were trying to put our country down. Unlike most other countries , we have never bought the american way of life. We don't count the treasons the USA did to France , and of course you are focused about second world-war which is a purely jewish rhetoric.
If English/Americans were clever enough to share leadership with French , Russians and any other big superpower of that time , we would have the perfect world.

I'm neither French nor American but I lived and worked in both for 4 years each. I chose France because it suits me better and has a stronger culture. I do recognize that the fact that France has managed to resist the Anglo Saxon influence so far is extraordinary, mainly due to the strong pride in the French language.

But the last couple of years things have gotten really bad, and I wont go into details in a single post.

What I meant in my previous post is that I just don't see France and USA working together, not because either country sucks but of the diffence in mentality plus the general enmity towards USA (which, again, might be a good thing) And again, USA got their hands full.

The writing is on the wall. First with the reformed labor laws, newly raised taxes, and increasing tuition fees for non-EU students by 15x times (which I personally supports, but everyone fears that this is just a prelude to raising tuition for French students). Everything point to an Americanization of France, especially with that faggot president at the head.

And of course the elephant in the room that nobody dares talk about. In 30-40 years there will be no Caisse de Retraite left, and it will be interesting to see people's reactions when they've paid exhorbitant taxes all their lives and receive like equivalent of 10e/month.

I just don't see any way back from this other than hitting the reset button à la Fall of Rome and Rise of the Frankish Kingdom style.

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11-22-2018 05:46 AM
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RE: President Trump and France, a difficult but crucial relation: Make France Great Again
delaran , agreed with most of your points.
Simply France is a revolutionary nation , I don't think Macron will be able to continue this way. Republican France has created a golem : A mix of cultural marxists , leftist brainwashed people encouraged to civil disobeying , + a hostile north-african / african thug anti-national culture spreading in the country. And still you will find some gems - some people who believe in the old correct catholic France.

If France would find a great leader , and would finally dare to go into dictatorship , and will federate people , the change is possible.
But We have had an empire , a monarchy , a communist period , we are the most socialist of the capitalists , the more universalists of the nationalists etc.... and not yet a dictatorship. Wait and see , that could be amusing.
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RE: President Trump and France, a difficult but crucial relation: Make France Great Again
(11-22-2018 06:26 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  delaran , agreed with most of your points.
Simply France is a revolutionary nation , I don't think Macron will be able to continue this way. Republican France has created a golem : A mix of cultural marxists , leftist brainwashed people encouraged to civil disobeying , + a hostile north-african / african thug anti-national culture spreading in the country. And still you will find some gems - some people who believe in the old correct catholic France.

If France would find a great leader , and would finally dare to go into dictatorship , and will federate people , the change is possible.
But We have had an empire , a monarchy , a communist period , we are the most socialist of the capitalists , the more universalists of the nationalists etc.... and not yet a dictatorship. Wait and see , that could be amusing.

I wish I share your optimism man, but we can no longer afford to think about it this way. “Just because it’s France, xyz can not continue….” Is exactly how we got into this mess.

Believe me I love this country dearly, or rather the ideals upon which it has been constructed. I’ve been all around the world and the most beautiful cities (St Petersburg, for ex) has some French elements in its design. French culture and product is highly exported and loved everywhere, but the country itself has really gone to shit. And it’s not the usual “back in my days…” either.

I’m a young outsider who was lucky enough to experienced the last vestiges of “true France” culture. I already talked about this, but my first 6 months in Paris my host mom was the Countess de Gastille, last of the line of the Duc de Gastille. She lives in the most luxurious area of Bastille and her apartment looks like they just brought a room right out of Chateau de Versailles. In her I saw the last vestiges of what made this country great. But it’s gone. Her grandchild, instead of keeping the title and continue in the tradition, decided to reject the title and become a comic artist, sharing a shitty apartment with his girlfriend in a shitty part of town. When this venerable lady passes away, I feel like old France will die with her.

I also don’t meet much of those “gems” you talked about, and those few I do meet are not the doer-takers. The Age of the 5th Republic more or less ended with De Gaulle. Even the Vietnamese lady who sells my grocery talks about the old time when she could go to the Préfecture, get treated nicely, get coffee, and get her resident card without much hassle. Compared that to the nightmarish red-tape and queue that stretches back several km in front of every Prefecture now… And back then they have just as much influx of migrants, real war migrants, as today.

I don’t think the current French people have what it takes to take back the country or make it great again. Certainly not by saying “France will endure” or going to vote (blanc). Who's the great leader that you are talking about? At least America has Trump. France has zero public figure who has the balls, charisma and resources to do this. We also can no longer look to outside help. Shit, even if people want to help France I don't know if most French would like to be helped since they are so busy looking down on everyone else. We are at a turning point where it’s either massive social upheaval or slow(quick) fade into dissolution. Pretty sure we know which it's gonna be.

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11-22-2018 08:46 AM
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RE: President Trump and France, a difficult but crucial relation: Make France Great Again
I think you got me wrong. I share the idea of this country being dead but optimism is usually one way to win wars. What I mean is that it cannot fall entirely , there will always be a piece of France somewhere that will remain ( check all villages , with a church in the middle of the main square) . A lot of villages are deserted even if politicians want them to repopulated by our very friendly migrants. We also have a lot of oversea territory which can be used as a rear base when things go wrong. It is maybe the end of the France and its current borders. But our culture will never be annihilated. For instance , even if i dont believe in the "poor baltic victims vs Russia thing" a country like Latvia could be annihilated in one week with political will. There is no leader right now , but to simplify there are 3 Frances :

1- The official France - secular and republican - where all the blacks and the arabs and the whites are having globohomo sex parties and refugee welcome while deciding to be transgenders and spreading through official channels their Teletubbies reality . We can put the leftists there too and the old May 68 perverted worshippers + junkies.
2- The real invaders- parts of arab/black youth being organized in order to take the leadership and/or annexate the country through violent invasion
3- The nationalists/patriots who have a very conservative view

The category 3 is composed of various people who cannot unite (some republican (in the french way of the word) , some democrates (in the french way of the word) , some monarchists , some pagans , some catholics , etc etc) . The only common denominator is the rejection of the invasion/immigration organized by our elite. When shit will happen be sure that this category 3 will regroup somewhere and will go beyond the minor divisions.

Look at how effective is the police at arresting patriots (during the border operation by militants next to the italian border , in the mountains). If they turn into category 3 , and we have military support (which is managing apparently to win in such battlefields like Mali) , I think it is possible not to lose.

France has produced too much to hate itself totally. It s a matter of time until reality turns cultural marxists degenerates into the biggest Hitler fans asking for mass massacres of invaders.

You are in good position to understand what I mean. French people are dreamers , they are not pragmatic like in the anglosphere. When their dream is over , they turn violent.
In my opinion , things have to go wrong RIGHT NOW before full-scale civil war happen. Let's hope that Macron loses the plot and triggers something crazy

A few laws in our favor and a few provocations (example some law discriminating muslims or closing mosques) could provoke huge riots and then allow our government to finally act pro-french. We should never give up.
There can also be some part of the territory which will split from Paris. After all , impossible is not French
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