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(11-30-2018 05:25 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 09:01 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 08:22 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 07:58 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 07:30 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  Lol @ needing to be a millionaire to fuck a 9. You guys need to step off the internet once in a while.

Read his post. He said in some cases.

Let's not strawman here.

I see his type of thinking all over the forum. Saying you need to have brad pitt looks or christiano ronaldo fame or fuck you money in order to get with 9s.

9s are people just like anyone else, all it takes is the right game at the right time, I hate reading this defeatist mentality everywhere but it is what it is..

No girl, even a 9, instantly runs off a checklist in her mind whenever a guy approaches her to decide if she wants to fuck him. there are so many nuances that can't be articulated that work in someones' favor.. but whatever. more for me!

Feel free to post your own SMV and the last 9 you banged. PM me if needed.

What's the point? Anyone could pick a guy off their facebook who's good looking, pick a hot girl, and say they banged her.
I'm not even friends with a single 9, nor acquaintances. Nor do any of my good friends know of a single 9.

You understand a 9 is a professional model tier girl who is as hot as any supermodel but lacks one of either status/aura or a truly striking feature? I have never even seen a 9 IRL let alone banged. And I saw, talked to, and chilled with the current miss usa at a fashion week event. She was an 8.5, not a 9. People stay throwing around 8s and 9s like candy.

Scratch that I think I once saw one taking a selfie in manhattan.
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(11-30-2018 05:25 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 09:01 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 08:22 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 07:58 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 07:30 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  Lol @ needing to be a millionaire to fuck a 9. You guys need to step off the internet once in a while.

Read his post. He said in some cases.

Let's not strawman here.

I see his type of thinking all over the forum. Saying you need to have brad pitt looks or christiano ronaldo fame or fuck you money in order to get with 9s.

9s are people just like anyone else, all it takes is the right game at the right time, I hate reading this defeatist mentality everywhere but it is what it is..

No girl, even a 9, instantly runs off a checklist in her mind whenever a guy approaches her to decide if she wants to fuck him. there are so many nuances that can't be articulated that work in someones' favor.. but whatever. more for me!

Feel free to post your own SMV and the last 9 you banged. PM me if needed.

What's the point? Anyone could pick a guy off their facebook who's good looking, pick a hot girl, and say they banged her.

The point is... if all it takes is the right game at the right time, why haven't you been with one?

Just so we're clear, this is a 9:
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Meh. Her body could be argued a 9, but her face.....
12-04-2018 06:25 AM
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(12-04-2018 06:25 AM)Aszhaeleos Wrote:  Meh. Her body could be argued a 9, but her face.....

I agree about the face. I wouldn't give her face more than 6.

As for her body - 7

This is a 9 body - though of course tastes differ

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(12-04-2018 07:39 AM)lancelot555 Wrote:  
(12-04-2018 06:25 AM)Aszhaeleos Wrote:  Meh. Her body could be argued a 9, but her face.....

I agree about the face. I wouldn't give her face more than 6.

As for her body - 7

This is a 9 body - though of course tastes differ

Glad our two resident "Registered December 2018" posters could pop in and give us their irrelevant, off-topic opinions.

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(12-04-2018 07:39 AM)lancelot555 Wrote:  
(12-04-2018 06:25 AM)Aszhaeleos Wrote:  Meh. Her body could be argued a 9, but her face.....
[Image: 10.JPG]

Obviously this is a 8.72545391

I was about to give her 0.00031 more, but her knees are shaped wrongly.

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(12-04-2018 07:39 AM)lancelot555 Wrote:  
(12-04-2018 06:25 AM)Aszhaeleos Wrote:  Meh. Her body could be argued a 9, but her face.....

I agree about the face. I wouldn't give her face more than 6.

As for her body - 7

This is a 9 body - though of course tastes differ

[Image: 10.JPG]

A bit fuller than I like them. Im serious.

Anyway that girl up there posted before this one is a 9 and I wouldn't be surprised if no one in this thread has banged one. Even prime jennifer anniston isn't a 9. Like what are ya'll smoking?? Again i have only ever glimpsed a 9 once in my entire life taking a selfie IRL.

Ya'll are talking about being in LTRs with them, banging them etc. If you wife/gf/fwb is a 9 she's likely famous and a top-tier model Just fucking LOL
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(12-04-2018 11:52 AM)corsega Wrote:  
(12-04-2018 07:39 AM)lancelot555 Wrote:  
(12-04-2018 06:25 AM)Aszhaeleos Wrote:  Meh. Her body could be argued a 9, but her face.....

I agree about the face. I wouldn't give her face more than 6.

As for her body - 7

This is a 9 body - though of course tastes differ

Glad our two resident "Registered December 2018" posters could pop in and give us their irrelevant, off-topic opinions.

Im sure you're an Authority on the subject with your impressive 800 plus posts but taste is subjective and your 9 looks like a skank to me.

But as you say, what would I know with my miniscule number of posts and forum rep.
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You young men need your testosterone checked if you give that girl's body less than 10. The face probably started as 9 but then she fucked it up somehow with plastic surgery and make up. Still at least 8, but embarrassing to be seen in public with an idiot like that. DO NOT MARRY! Severe case of narcissistic personality disorder.
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8, 9, 10, whatever. Both them girls are very hot.
Although I have like 3 girls who I think are equally hot living super close to me and see a few on most nights out, so whatever 'number' they are isn't especially 'rare' in my opinion. (plus lets not forget the clear differences of opinion that the 'post your 10' thread has confirmed! so it's not really worth arguing about)
Getting back to the 1000 approaches, though
No matter how good your 'game' is, most guys aren't ever gonna be banging girls as hot as that (especially from cold approach), and if these are the types of girls that this incel dude was approaching, then even if he had 'game', i'd expect a similar result (1000+ rejections) unless he was way up there in the looks department himself.

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(11-28-2018 08:16 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 03:52 PM)Jefferson Wrote:  He's got no game at all, here's why: He hates women. If you read that incel thread, he actually says 'Women are not actually human in my honest opinion'.

He truly despises women, hates them, and not just women, the way he talks about men he is just as hateful.

He admits himself he is 'constantly angry', and man does it show.

I've always noticed that the guys who are terrible socially with women tend to be just as bad with men as well.

There are a lot of young guys (and girls too, they're the weirdo new-aged feminists) these days who have this "I hate people" mindset, yet they still yearn to be social. Their problem is not Game or "looksmax" (if you use that word, you're not gonna get laid). It's that they were poorly socialised as children. Their social skills were never given the chance to develop healthily since they were toddlers. They need professional help to unravel all those years of unhealthy upbringing. Forums like RVF can't help them, we can only help the guys who are mostly socially normal but can't quite figure out where all the puzzle pieces are when it comes to having a decent dating life.

What I got out of "game" was basically social skills. I pretty much went from growing up in a rural area schooling by distance education into shift work for years. By the time I finished with that I was so far behind my peer group simply because I barely had to talk to anyone.
Doesn't matter the why, but I suspect there a huge number of guys out there in a similar situation for one reason or another. Thus the rise of forums like this and dating/game coaches.
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Your case is not what I was talking about though, Bluey. You are among the socially normal guys, but circumstances mean your social skills were not as developed as they should've been. Guys like you can learn better social skills i.e Game. It's a skill that simply takes practice.

What I was referring to is young guys who are anti-social. Obviously they are not good with socialising with others due to poor social skills, but they actually hate people as well. You can smell their resentment and anger when you interact with them. Those guys can't learn any Game, unless their inner issues are resolved first through professional help (and even with that, there is no guarantee). If anyone has read Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules of Life, in Rule #11, he talks about this type of people, who are growing in numbers in our modern society, and they all hate humanity in various degrees. The milder case is the one who deliberately have one or no children because "humans are disgusting creatures who are destroying the planet", the extreme case is Elliot Rogers or the school shooters.

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Yeah. That's fucked up. If you have 1000 approaches under your belt without a lay I think you have bigger problems in life.
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(11-28-2018 07:47 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  
(11-28-2018 07:36 PM)eradicator Wrote:  Is it the dude who wanted to get chin surgery? Maybe five years ago a guy came onto the forum posting about making a lot of approaches and getting zero bangs. He wasn't bad looking and got a lot of help from forum vets and he proceeded to ignore all of the awesome advice he was given and just keep doing what he was doing and not getting bangs. And he insisted it was because he wasn't getting chin surgery. It's been a few years but that's the nutshell.

Are you talking about the jewish guy who traveled to Asia ?

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-36769.html

Drew Binsky is super Jewish (looks like a character off Family Guy) and yet he was able to get a Filipina from the Ghetto. Granted it may not be a good example because Binsky could be relying on Fame game / YouTube / rich foreigner stereotype game instead of pickup game.

Remember Fame Game can be very powerful: that fat ugly Korean from Mad TV (Bobby Lee and allegedly he has no money anymore) ended up getting a fairly decent girl.
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(12-06-2018 02:17 AM)Golden_State_of_Mind Wrote:  Yeah. That's fucked up. If you have 1000 approaches under your belt without a lay I think you have bigger problems in life.

Depends what sort of girls you're going for.
An ugly guy would maybe NEVER get a super hot '10/10 Goddess' with UNLIMITED approaches despite his 'game' tbh.

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(12-05-2018 09:51 AM)subterfuge Wrote:  8, 9, 10, whatever. Both them girls are very hot.
Although I have like 3 girls who I think are equally hot living super close to me and see a few on most nights out, so whatever 'number' they are isn't especially 'rare' in my opinion. (plus lets not forget the clear differences of opinion that the 'post your 10' thread has confirmed! so it's not really worth arguing about)
Getting back to the 1000 approaches, though
No matter how good your 'game' is, most guys aren't ever gonna be banging girls as hot as that (especially from cold approach), and if these are the types of girls that this incel dude was approaching, then even if he had 'game', i'd expect a similar result (1000+ rejections) unless he was way up there in the looks department himself.

No he wasnt. He went for a range from 3s and 4s to mainly what he considered his looksmatch 6s - and he tried some 7s and 8s. He found no more interest from the 3 and 4s than he did from the 7s and 8s. I know because I read his depressing daily reports. I think he thought sooner or later lightening would strike but it never did. He said after 1000 he had something big planned if he never got laid. I have been watching the news but nothing so far.
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I'd love to identify with what the high star forum members advocate on this thread i.e. adapting and changing for the better, etc. I've done quite a lot in that direction. I now look better, dress better, have better posture, make more money, lift and do cardio. I used to have man boobs but not anymore. But I have a little problem. I have a genetic disorder that makes me feel tired all the time. So fucking tired that my voice resembles that of a drug addict, and there's not much I can do about it. If you see me I may look alpha (albeit a short one for that) but that'd be before I open my mouth.

Charles Sledge talks about the importance of a man's strength all the time. Mike Cernovich does (did) the same. All of this leaves me thinking....

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1. Not all men are destined to be alphas. No matter how much work you put in you'll still be behind. Be the best you can be regardless.
2. The people that we identify as "betas" aren't even true betas. SHouldn't betas be the next best things to alphas only lacking in 1 or 2 minor traits?
3. Play to your strengths. Not everybody can be the James Bond type of player. Some guys are the funny guy, some the bad boy, some the adventurer.
4. CONFIDENCE IS KEY. However that confidence has to be chained to something. True confidence can't be faked and people will notice if you try.
5. These 9-10s aren't found everywhere. They're easier to find in college but even then they're the unicorns. Sorry but it takes alot to find them let alone bang them
6. Playing the number game gets you nowhere without adequate improvement.
7. Game will only get you so far. Alot of people give up because they set their standards way to high. Match your standards or shut up.
8. All this self-improvement stuff should be done for YOURSELF. Not to get women. In fact a lot of women find self improvement unattractive.
9. Your SMV is law, there are no exceptions. There's alot that goes into your SMV but you will ALWAYS be judged by that.

and most importantly

10. WOMEN WANT TO BRAG, As i previously stated your SMV is law. Women want to brag about the guy who has the best game. The following are text quotes that I saved while being friend zoned by numerous girls back in the day.

"___ I totally let him just talk me into taking me to the bathroom and giving him head. IDK what was wrong with me, he just seemed so fun"

"I didn't mean to do it, he touched me in the middle of the club ad i thought it'll be a good idea to let him come over" This was an ex that cheated on me

"Hey I met the most perfect guy, he just knows how to make me feel special"

"WHy am I so stupid, all he wants to do is fuck and i keep letting him"

"____ he has the best body i've ever seen and he can eat the hell out of a pussy"

"He's so nice and sweet to me, but not a pushover. I'm sorry but I just can't get rid of him" Another ex from a couple years ago that cheated on me

I'm sure alot of other guys have heard similar things from women. Women want that romantic adventure, that roller coaster. They want to be manipulated, they want to be seduced, they want to be "whores", they want to have fun. They want that fairy tale where a High SMV guy just sweeps them off their feet.
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I have to say something to those who (rightously) advocate adaptation: please don't fotget the bigger picture.
The Blackdragon blog has an interesting article about gaming women of different ages. Reading it I couldn't help but notice something: you let teenage girls decide the future of your country. You may think I'm exaggerating but think about it.

Traditionally men were tasked with building, maintaining and defending civilization while women provided sex, child bearing, did domestic chores and occasionally helped with outside work.
Nowadays Western women take in so much resources but what do they produce in return? They don't even help maintain the population of their own demographic.

It's only through a big government, a tyrannical police state and a bureaucracy machine that the status quo can be maintained. This is because women need protection. Either by their own men or by the government. (The bureaucracy is to produce hoax jobs.) You'd be a total retard if you think all the restrictions that are put on men's behavior are just to protect women. This is actually one of the reasons politician's advocate feminism.

Can this shit be sustainable in the long run? It's a technological big government police state and propaganda machine vs the raw power of people. Will be fun to watch.

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(11-25-2018 07:24 PM)WannaBang Wrote:  
(11-25-2018 05:48 PM)Shemp Wrote:  For those of you who didn't listen but are curious, his targets are women working on a clothing store. His first line is "Hi. do you speak English?"' One says no. Another replies yes, so then he says. "My name is David. I like you. I think you are very attractive. What do you think about that?" She tried to interject a reply after "I like you", but he just kept on speaking over her voice until pausing after "What do you think about that?" The girl then says "Thank you" and tries to get away. "Only thank you? Can I ask you one more question? Is it because I'm too beautiful for you?" She then tells him she has a boyfriend. Then he asks "Is this your first lie of the day?" except he pronounces "lie" wrong, sounds like "why". She says she doesn't understand and he explains he knows she is lying about the boyfriend. Best part is at the end, when he's by himself again reviewing the set and gets excited talking about how he'd like to penetrate the girl.

He's not a native English speaker. He mentions the phrase "you look sympathetic" sounds off in English but okay in his native language. "Pareces simpática" does indeed sound okay in Spanish, but his accent doesn't sound Spanish. "выглядишь симпатичная" is also okay in Russian, and probably something equivalent in other Slavic languages, so maybe he's eastern European. Why he's speaking in English, I don't know. Maybe to make things more difficult for himself. Playing the game on hard mode.

This is an example of a case where a guy would be better off with social circle game. Do some group activities. Get some experience just taking to girls.

This is also a good example of why most guys should wait for the IOI (indication of interest) before approaching. If no IOI's, then get some advice on making yourself more attractive so you do get IOI's. Approaching without clear IOI's like this guy, and getting constantly rejected, is eventually going to fuck with your mind. You'll either become bitter or develop some shield to defend your ego. In either case, you become less attractive as a result. Constant failure begets more failure, so don't let yourself get onto that dead end track to begin with.

I hate to admit it but I have finally come to agree with this. I only got 8/1600 approaches which while not 0 is still shit. That amount of rejection does indeed fuck with your mind especially when you know you've gone all out maxing your look and done what you can to improve your game etc. You start to subconsciously convince yourself that you are low value which starts to project outwards and girls pick up on the resulting bad vibes.

The bold red especially applies to me because that is exactly how I've been behaving lately. The real issue is when you can't get IOIs no matter what you do. But as has been mentioned, the game is brutally hard and only the strongest will survive.

I had to stop listening to those audios because they were painful beyond all endurance. I don't think mine were a fraction as bad as his so it doesn't shock me in the slightest he got nothing.
In my time cold approaching, I will say my approach-to-lay ratio was pretty high, but in that same vein, I was also only approaching women who gave me pretty solid IOIs. This is not to say I never fell flat on my face, but I did use a lot of cheesy old school pick up openers and then just winged it from there and was pretty good at getting pussy out of it. So, I would argue that getting initial interest, even if you're unsure definitely bolsters your level of confidence and most times, in my experience anyways, leads to your desired outcome.

An interesting aside I'm noticing however in regards to IOIs and as I age, is this:
As I'm older, I've grown my hair out much more, and as a result, I've noticed a lot less women directly giving me interest when I'm out and about, but when I do speak to women, they actively put my looks on a pedestal, something most women never really spoke about before; for example one girl said to me, "me and my friends were talking about how gorgeous you were," but I had no fucking clue these women found me attractive in the slightest, I was thrusted into conversation with them from a friend.

When I was younger, I was always clean shaven and bald headed, but I got far more IOIs when I was out and about. However, women in general didn't really say much about my looks, apart from the occasional "you're cute."

Maybe with my old age I'm becoming autistic. I dunno.

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RE: Dude approaches 1000 women and gets 0 lays
(11-29-2018 01:01 AM)corsega Wrote:  
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(11-26-2018 03:52 PM)Jefferson Wrote:  He's got no game at all, here's why: He hates women. If you read that incel thread, he actually says 'Women are not actually human in my honest opinion'.

He truly despises women, hates them, and not just women, the way he talks about men he is just as hateful.

He admits himself he is 'constantly angry', and man does it show.

I've always noticed that the guys who are terrible socially with women tend to be just as bad with men as well.

There are a lot of young guys (and girls too, they're the weirdo new-aged feminists) these days who have this "I hate people" mindset, yet they still yearn to be social. Their problem is not Game or "looksmax" (if you use that word, you're not gonna get laid). It's that they were poorly socialised as children. Their social skills were never given the chance to develop healthily since they were toddlers. They need professional help to unravel all those years of unhealthy upbringing. Forums like RVF can't help them, we can only help the guys who are mostly socially normal but can't quite figure out where all the puzzle pieces are when it comes to having a decent dating life.

"Law 1: Master people before you master women"

From one of my favorite articles about Game of all time: https://strengthbysonny.com/2014/02/12/h...ls-part-i/

Quote:Do: Lift weights 5 days a week, take cold showers, listen to heavy metal/rock/rap, get manual labor experience, learn how to use tools, learn the basics of auto-repair, learn how to cook, take full responsibility for every aspect of your life, eat steak/eggs and other manly foods, dress like a man, have other cool friends that you can relate to, get out of the house, take a hunting/fishing trip, regard women as just another part of life, keep it simple, identify problems and solve them.

Avoid: Isolation from people, a sedentary lifestyle, Internet pornography, girlie techno/pop music, video games, hours watching television, loser friends, eating kid foods such as cereal and macaroni, staying under mommy and daddy’s wing past the appropriate age, dressing feminine, browsing Internet forums, wasting time on social media/YouTube, making women/learning game your #1 priority, complicating things, seeing problems and then trying to rely upon theory/extreme logic to solve them.

Your favorite article seems to suggest that everyone in this forum is a girly man, no exceptions.
12-25-2018 08:02 PM
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RE: Dude approaches 1000 women and gets 0 lays
^ To be fair, I would agree with that in general.

This forum is very much the exception that proves the rule. See the incel forum as per OP as an example of how badly-administered and ran forums can drag their members down.

I just skimmed through the article above and it looks on-point to me. He makes the point that if men don't take steps to improve themselves, it's highly unlikely that all the PUA stuff will work as they wish it to.

The overwhelming theme of the RVF - one that stands out for me as a long-time lurker, although I can see how other newbies desperate to improve their situation with regards to women make the mistake of going straight to Game/Newbie without taking the time to read and digest the gold offered in other subforums - is self-improvement. Approach and game is the way to go. But this needs a foundation on which to do this based on making the best of whatever is available to us as men.

Even those of us who have drawn the short straw with, say, looks (I have a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp) can take a look at ourselves and ask, "How can I make myself more attractive to the kind of women I want to get with?"

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12-26-2018 09:22 AM
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RE: Dude approaches 1000 women and gets 0 lays
It does not matter how many approaches you do if your game is crap and you have not made any effort to maximize your appearance (working out, eating healthy, getting a haircut, body language, etc.) or conversation skills.

Each woman you approach is a clean slate who does not know how many other approaches you have done and who does not know who else you have approached or how it went. So doing 1000 approaches with bad game will likely get you the same sad results that doing 5 approaches with the same bad game will if you do not modify your game (to include your appearance and other things) at any point in the process because every approach is likely to go the same way regardless of how many you do.

The quality of your approaches matters more than the number of them you do. A filthy urine-soaked hobo with a needle in his arm can run up to 1000 women and demand their number and that would count as 1000 approaches. He is unlikely to have any success though. By contrast, the same guy, if he kicked the habit, cleaned himself up, got some money, got a haircut, dressed decently, and displayed higher value would almost certainly have a very different experience.

Your first approaches will probably be rough and your game will likely be bad. The key is to learn from those experiences and modify your game accordingly so that your experiences become increasingly more positive the more approaches you do.
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RE: Dude approaches 1000 women and gets 0 lays
Wow. Was not expecting to see a guy who is objectively a LOSER in mindset AND in "status" engender such heated debate.

My first thought is this–after x number of rejections with zero success, you gotta change something up, take a different tack in some way or another.
You can't control the girl you're approaching. You can't force her to like you–that's the kind of stuff that, in theory, the genuine MeToo-type cases are addressing, and that Western culture takes to the extreme in criminalizing so many male-initiated interactions with females that don't end perfectly in the girls' minds.
So if you can't change her, you have to change you. And keep at it until you find something that works for you, and even THEN keep growing your game repertoire while using what works for you to keep your confidence up so you can weather rejections more easily and not get into the complete loser mindset that 1K-Rejection Guy has.

I'll add that I'm not exactly practicing IRL what I'm preaching here. I'm jobless, overweight, and I do hardly any approaching to begin with because I don't change what I'm doing to improve my chances of success on the SMP. I recognize all this, but don't put into action any change.
Still, despite the temptation to default to a mindset of "jesus christ I hit up a THOUSAND WOMEN and they all shot me down mostly early on in the interaction therefore they all must be fucking awful people", I don't hate women. What I hate is reading about/listening to/watching people bitch about their lack of success in some form of activity while not having the maturity or just plain intelligence to realize it's not the outside world's job to accommodate to their visions of their life should be, it's their own job to adapt to what life throws at them, good and bad.
I mean, at some point, isn't it just a question of willpower? That you have to just buck up and DO IT whether you want to or not? That's what I think 1K Guy doesn't get re: changing his approach.
12-27-2018 01:09 AM
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RE: Dude approaches 1000 women and gets 0 lays
(12-27-2018 01:09 AM)moneyshot Wrote:  Wow. Was not expecting to see a guy who is objectively a LOSER in mindset AND in "status" engender such heated debate.

My first thought is this–after x number of rejections with zero success, you gotta change something up, take a different tack in some way or another.
You can't control the girl you're approaching. You can't force her to like you–that's the kind of stuff that, in theory, the genuine MeToo-type cases are addressing, and that Western culture takes to the extreme in criminalizing so many male-initiated interactions with females that don't end perfectly in the girls' minds.
So if you can't change her, you have to change you. And keep at it until you find something that works for you, and even THEN keep growing your game repertoire while using what works for you to keep your confidence up so you can weather rejections more easily and not get into the complete loser mindset that 1K-Rejection Guy has.

I'll add that I'm not exactly practicing IRL what I'm preaching here. I'm jobless, overweight, and I do hardly any approaching to begin with because I don't change what I'm doing to improve my chances of success on the SMP. I recognize all this, but don't put into action any change.
Still, despite the temptation to default to a mindset of "jesus christ I hit up a THOUSAND WOMEN and they all shot me down mostly early on in the interaction therefore they all must be fucking awful people", I don't hate women. What I hate is reading about/listening to/watching people bitch about their lack of success in some form of activity while not having the maturity or just plain intelligence to realize it's not the outside world's job to accommodate to their visions of their life should be, it's their own job to adapt to what life throws at them, good and bad.
I mean, at some point, isn't it just a question of willpower? That you have to just buck up and DO IT whether you want to or not? That's what I think 1K Guy doesn't get re: changing his approach.

Money, what's stopping you? What will it take for you to execute? I was in the same boat nearly a year ago, but I had a realization that I would have to improve, that is, I could get all the advise in the world from people that cared, but I would have to execute in order to make myself a better person and increase my SMV.

The forum is a great resource but it seems like many guys over-rely on it while not executing on some of the good, free, sound advise offered here.

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