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(11-30-2018 10:32 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  Past performance does not predict future results.

And if China was well on its way to worldwide empire status, it's elites and citizens wouldn't be so desperate to launder their money in North American and European assets.

Frankly, not worried. I expect war in the next 2-3 years started by them.

They'll do something stupid that will predicate the Chicom fall.

Well, for one, their next door neighbor Japan has a negative birth rate. The Chinese could just wait it out until the last Japanese person dies of old age and walk right in without firing a shot.
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(11-30-2018 10:40 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 10:32 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  Past performance does not predict future results.

And if China was well on its way to worldwide empire status, it's elites and citizens wouldn't be so desperate to launder their money in North American and European assets.

Frankly, not worried. I expect war in the next 2-3 years started by them.

They'll do something stupid that will predicate the Chicom fall.

Well, for one, their next door neighbor Japan has a negative birth rate. The Chinese could just wait it out until the last Japanese person dies of old age and walk right in without firing a shot.

So what? The Chicoms would do what the soviets did and just throw bodies at an AI powered machine gun nest.

They're not especially crafty and easy to manipulate once you understand their undying need for protecting face. With Trump's domestic policy in deadlock, he will only have one thing to make his legacy known and felt and that's messing with the Chinese. Winnie the Xi Poo will lose face and ratchet up some pressure hoping the US will back down. America will just amp it up and probably go so far as to open an embassy in Taiwan. And bam there's the next world war right there.

Anywho back on topic: what's a neanderthal discussion without:
[Image: a-sometimes-i-dream-about-cheese-melon-head-2989377.png]
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(11-30-2018 10:40 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 10:32 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  Past performance does not predict future results.

And if China was well on its way to worldwide empire status, it's elites and citizens wouldn't be so desperate to launder their money in North American and European assets.

Frankly, not worried. I expect war in the next 2-3 years started by them.

They'll do something stupid that will predicate the Chicom fall.

Well, for one, their next door neighbor Japan has a negative birth rate. The Chinese could just wait it out until the last Japanese person dies of old age and walk right in without firing a shot.

That's true, and when china's abandoned one child policy catches up with them next generation, it will be very interesting how they manage.
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(11-30-2018 10:45 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  Anywho back on topic: what's a neanderthal discussion without:
[Image: a-sometimes-i-dream-about-cheese-melon-head-2989377.png]

Funny you mention Melonheads...we were having a discussion about them a few weeks ago in this thread

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-68635...pid1884284

"Vault-Co was like this blog, only funnier, more succinct, and more focused on things relating to prepping, like building vaults, hacking old technology to produce survival tech, and so on. But he was actually completely wiped from search engines, as if he never existed. And the Wayback machine as well.

There was only one major way he diverged from all the other survivalist/right-wing blogs. He ardently asserted that there is an ancient race of extremely tall (8-9 ft) redheaded hominids with unusually large skulls that were protruding in the back, which has existed through human history in secret, and ruled via conspiracies with regular humans, from behind the scenes. He called them Melonheads. He often pointed out articles from the past where their skeletons were found, and photographed, and produced news articles about the finds, only for the Skeletons to disappear, with nobody ever knowing what happened to them.

The theory also seemed to indicate they interbreed with humans, but that they maintain their perceptions of themselves as a sort of master race designed to manipulate the rest of us, and they control our governments to this day. He also, as part of this maintained the Neanderthals were a breed of hominid that had evolved past humans, having been culled by Ice-Age conditions, and that humans were some sort of construct of the Melonheads, designed to genocide the Neanderthals, who were the only real threat to Melonhead power.


At some point he felt the Melonheads had tried to use a pathogen to wipe out their competition but it backfired and killed most of the Melonheads off, forcing them to interbreed with humans to save their race.


https://vcrd.fahy.co/melonheads-confirme...minid.html
Melonheads Confirmed As The Third Hominid!!!
I believed I would be vindicated by DNA testing in the near future and I was right.

People will take a long time to realize the significance of what has been uncovered here.

The third hominid is the answer to all the other questions. The third hominid is the prime mover, the essential pivot point that explains what otherwise would be a mystery about the other two.

When we ask who is the Neanderthal? Who is Homo Sapiens? We will never know the answers to those questions unless we are willing to contemplate the idea that neither one of those races was the dominant ruling class on this planet for a million years. The melonheads were.

What happened to the Neanderthals happened because they were the nearest thing to potential competitors that the melonheads had ever seen. They resolved to nip that problem in the bud and tried three different methods beginning around 120,000 years ago.

1. A genetically engineered virus designed to target Neanderthals. Failed. Mutated, backfired and killed more Melonheads and their slaves than Neanderthals. We have antibodies to this day to this supervirus, if you are of European descent you have antibodies in your system right now that would still kick in to protect you from being exposed to this virus. I hate to think what happened to the melonhead who proposed this brilliant strategy but it didn't work out correctly at all.

2. Okay, they brainstormed for a while through several generations and then they decided that Neanderthals would not survive a long term solar blackout compared with the deep refuges of the Melonheads and their monolithic structures. They detonated an implosion device in the supervolcano at Toba around 80,000 years ago. The Toba supervolcano caldera is the only one of its kind on the planet, consisting of a huge vaporized sphere that opened the eruption beneath it. The Sun was blacked out for twenty years and even the melonheads were starving by the time the surface was inhabitable again. They then discovered that the Neanderthals had been building fantastic subterranean tunnels that ran the length of Europe and reached as far as Turkey. Turns out the Neanderthals were the most incredible survivalists of all time and several decades of no summers and no sun rolled off their backs like water off a duck. The melonheads realized that after a million years of routine hibernation the Neanderthals were probably better equipped than they were to survive such an event.

3. The melonhead who suggested the drastic Toba plan probably took a long walk off a short plank and his successor knew he'd better get it right this time. They planned and researched for a long time before they made their final powerpoint presentation to the general committee. They proposed developing a new bioweapon on two legs from a mixture of their slave classes, genes from Neanderthals and some rhesus monkeys as well as some other odd junk that science still is having trouble trying to figure out how that could possibly be in our genome. The new creature would be customized for only one real purpose in life and that would be to exterminate Neanderthals one-by-one, even pursuing them into their caves on foot if necessary. They would breed like rabbits and be so regimented and autocratic they would scarcely even be called human. They would simply sweep Europe starting at the southern tip and when the job was done, all kinds of safety locks were introduced into their genetic design that would make certain they would never be able to organize themselves into anything formidable enough to challenge melonhead rule. One of these safety measures was to sever the corpus callosum between the left and right halves of the brain so that they would still be capable of very complex behaviors but would never really be able to integrate their consciousness.

The third solution worked like a charm except for one glitch. The Sapiens took the beautiful Neanderthal women as war captives and the children were made into a permanent slave caste. This became a self-reinforcing adaptive mechanism because of all the feuding Sapiens tribes it was the ones with the huge Neanderthal slave populations that easily overcame everyone else. In short order the Neanderthals were mythologized as the Tuatha De Danann and widely credited later as being the source of all craft, civilization and progress even as the Neanderthal hybrids were reduced to chattel subsistence for countless tens of thousands of years. The 'Thal was a despised creature treated with less respect than a dog, forbidden to look anyone in the eyes and likely made to sleep on the open ground outside the village at night. In the day, their clever hands manufactured weapons that were infinitely superior to those that humans could make themselves and then the 'Thals were deployed as shock troops at the start of every battle to soften up the opposition for easy conquests of tribes with no Neanderthal slaves of their own. The smartest tribes probably sent their 'Thal hounds in at night in surprise raids on other villages because their night vision was better and the 'Thal could fight extremely well at the witching hour for a variety of reasons, not least of which the projectile weapons which had originally killed them at a distance were useless in darkness. This gave rise to legends of the Neanderthals as werewolves and night spirits who were intensely feared by peoples who had no such soldiers in their own tribes.

In the modern era, all the subconscious relationships between the three groups persist to this day. Melonheads and Sapiens automatically think of the Neanderthal as their conquered servants even though their entire existence depends on his innovativeness, problem solving ability and creative energies. The Neanderthal is a kind of "living ghost" who leads a rootless, transient existence offering his labor whenever people are desperate enough to require it (which is often) in all major technical, mechanical, scientific and engineering tasks. The 'Thals either break their chains and achieve independence or else they are their brother's servant, as Isaac elegantly prophesizes to his son Esau as a metaphor in Genesis. Civilizations settle into a predictable pattern lasting roughly 200 years divided into ten generations of men. The first 100 years the Neanderthals build everything up ... and the second 100 years the melonheads and their slaves proceed to tear it all to pieces and bring it down. The net result for history is a recurring tragedy that goes nowhere and never achieves any lasting progress in anything.

The entire planet suffered some enormous upheaval around 12,000 years ago that took a huge toll on the existing social order and in the ten millennia that followed the melonheads were never able to achieve the levels of control they had previously, although pharaonic Egypt came close for a while. By the time the Romans enslaved the Greeks and started their reich the whole human population was starting to lose the brain mass they had stolen through the organized rape of the Neanderthal woman and intelligence was in sharp decline everywhere. The minor dawn of the Renaissance and Enlightenment peaked in a nadir that was the briefest yet in the history of world civilizations and it was rapidly becoming apparent that "the future" was an increasingly difficult organization to provide staffing for. The long term trend was down and back to the mud for the human gene pool and some days it looked like a race to the bottom for everyone. The only real hope for mankind was the end of the Holocene and a return to a colder planet that selected for sharper minds instead of just sharper tongues


Neanderthals built advanced cave structures over 175,000 years ago
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arch...te/484070/

https://vcrd.fahy.co/neanderthals-just-c...pirin.html
https://vcrd.fahy.co/neanderthal-monkeys...again.html
These "primitive creatures"...

Built 6 step compression ovens to forge malleable pitch into ergonomic grips
Created complex artwork with perspective and abstract idealized representations
Had a jewelry drill that could bore perfect circles in emeralds, jade and other precious stones
Showed evidence of having constructed compound bows
Had complex funerals with religious artefacts, symbolic travel tokens and gifts for the afterlife
Wore makeup and manufactured rings, necklaces and armbands
Supported cradle-to-grave intensive nursing for the critically injured for the duration of their lives
Had a hyoid bone in their throats to produce ultrasound speech that carried on plains of snow
Had 4 extra genes connected with the muscles of the throat for hyper articulate speech
Domesticated all known species of useful animals including horses, dogs and cattle

... and now apparently built firewalls and windbreaks deep inside caverns that used central pit fires exhausted through natural chimneys to survive Ice Age temperatures.

It is amazing to me that after having discovered ample fossils of Southern Neanderthals (Denisovian & Amud) that towered over modern humans at 6 foot 2 (250 pounds, basically Arnold Schwarzenegger ) that they are still depicted as shorter than modern people and squat troll humped. What absolutely absurd rubbish. It is true that Cro-Magnons often towered over the Neanderthal coming in regularly at almost 7 foot tall but it is likely that any close quarters combat between a Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon ended with the Cro-Magnon crushed to the size of a shoebox. On the other hand, that lanky build and height would have been genetically perfect for killing a Neanderthal at a distance with a spear. The Cro-Magnon could easily win in numbers without ever coming within striking range.


Vault-CO Archive
https://vcrd.fahy.co/
Its not organized by date or anything, but alphabetized. So it's kind of hard to search for relevant articles, but lots of good info hidden in there about evolution, and the "Thals"
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(11-30-2018 09:34 AM)Horus Wrote:  The Chinese are smart motherfuckers, and you can only look at their historical achievements with awe. I look at China's rise with despair, knowing that even though they don't have moral supremacy, they are intellectually superior and there is nothing anyone can do about it. This is a biological truth. If they had chosen to do so, they could have been a global superpower at the same time the Spanish and Portuguese asserted themselves in the world. Instead they chose to close themselves to the outside world towards the end of the Ming dynasty. But in the 21st century with their soft loans, Silk Road project and the eventual colonization of Africa, they will enjoy global supremacy that Britain and America could only dream about during their heydays. This is survival of the fittest, and with the progress we've made after 6000 years of civilisation its the guys with the biggest brains, not the biggest muscles, that will come out on top.

(11-30-2018 09:34 AM)Horus Wrote:  The Chinese are smart motherfuckers, and you can only look at their historical achievements with awe. I look at China's rise with despair, knowing that even though they don't have moral supremacy, they are intellectually superior and there is nothing anyone can do about it. This is a biological truth. If they had chosen to do so, they could have been a global superpower at the same time the Spanish and Portuguese asserted themselves in the world. Instead they chose to close themselves to the outside world towards the end of the Ming dynasty. But in the 21st century with their soft loans, Silk Road project and the eventual colonization of Africa, they will enjoy global supremacy that Britain and America could only dream about during their heydays. This is survival of the fittest, and with the progress we've made after 6000 years of civilisation its the guys with the biggest brains, not the biggest muscles, that will come out on top.

So much this, but what is moral supremacy (baseless coping?). Chinese contribution to civilization has been the greatest and their current ascension unstoppable. In regards verbal IQ ashkenazi jews reign supreme
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Among Euros, Basques have the highest amount of neanderthal DNA, followed by their genetic cousins Scots-Irish, and then some Portuguese.
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(11-30-2018 10:57 AM)MANic Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 09:34 AM)Horus Wrote:  The Chinese are smart motherfuckers, and you can only look at their historical achievements with awe. I look at China's rise with despair, knowing that even though they don't have moral supremacy, they are intellectually superior and there is nothing anyone can do about it. This is a biological truth. If they had chosen to do so, they could have been a global superpower at the same time the Spanish and Portuguese asserted themselves in the world. Instead they chose to close themselves to the outside world towards the end of the Ming dynasty. But in the 21st century with their soft loans, Silk Road project and the eventual colonization of Africa, they will enjoy global supremacy that Britain and America could only dream about during their heydays. This is survival of the fittest, and with the progress we've made after 6000 years of civilisation its the guys with the biggest brains, not the biggest muscles, that will come out on top.

(11-30-2018 09:34 AM)Horus Wrote:  The Chinese are smart motherfuckers, and you can only look at their historical achievements with awe. I look at China's rise with despair, knowing that even though they don't have moral supremacy, they are intellectually superior and there is nothing anyone can do about it. This is a biological truth. If they had chosen to do so, they could have been a global superpower at the same time the Spanish and Portuguese asserted themselves in the world. Instead they chose to close themselves to the outside world towards the end of the Ming dynasty. But in the 21st century with their soft loans, Silk Road project and the eventual colonization of Africa, they will enjoy global supremacy that Britain and America could only dream about during their heydays. This is survival of the fittest, and with the progress we've made after 6000 years of civilisation its the guys with the biggest brains, not the biggest muscles, that will come out on top.

So much this, but what is moral supremacy (baseless coping?). Chinese contribution to civilization has been the greatest and their current ascension unstoppable. In regards verbal IQ ashkenazi jews reign supreme

I bet there were newspaper proclaiming the long term viability of the German Empire in 1911 too.

Ancient China gave us paper, gunpowder, silk, and tons of ceramic plates. Once the Europeans figured out the process, they stopped bothering trying to buy more from the Chinese to get it. They got by on isolation.

Remind me what modern technological marvels has China give us?

Chinese IQ superiority is illusory, just like their economic power. The US for all of its power, is unreasonably honest. Those IQ tests that go into those worldwide rankings show the IQ of some Jewish kids in NYC against some underachievers in middle of nowhere Iowa.

Do you really think the Chinese are including the IQ tests of peasant farmers somewhere in the remote east? Let me answer it, of course not, they're only putting the brightest kids in the best cities on those tests.

As for melonheads, I made that post in jest. The vaultco guy is a bloody loon on the same level as Q-Anontards. He's definitely onto something and it makes for an insightful read, but the guy who wrote it couldn't keep a straight head.

When he wiped his entire blog claiming some sort of 3rd party forced his hand, I facepalmed. You can still read its entirety on the waybackwhenmachine. Did TPTB forget about that? No, he was just larping for attention.
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This thread is going in the correct direction.
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http://www.unz.com/freed/cheng-two-more-...-in-china/

Cool article by a guy who visited China (Chengdu) and was amazed by their rate of technological progress. Makes the US look 3rd world by comparison.

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I think the reason Europeans rule the world is because of the Punic wars. Carthage was Africa's best hope of being a world power but the fact that they used mercenaries rather than home grown troops like Rome was the primary reason for their defeat. But you got me thinking that maybe it was the Neanderthal genes that have the Romans the dogged like determination to keep fighting even after getting their asses handed to them multiple times by Hannibal.

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(11-30-2018 11:49 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  http://www.unz.com/freed/cheng-two-more-...-in-china/

Cool article by a guy who visited China (Chengdu) and was amazed by their rate of technological progress. Makes the US look 3rd world by comparison.


Yep, great article. I think this century is theirs for the taking. While the West is running on fumes and reduced to arguing over how many sexes there are and who can use what bathroom, the Chinese are busy building new aircraft carriers, exploring space and editing their own genome.

Nothing we can't do ourselves of course, but the hour is getting late.

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Ghengis Khan was not on the outskirts if of Vienna when he died but more like modern Kazahstan. That was about ten years later wheb Ghenghis Khan's son whose early death due to alcoholism was the reason was The Monghils stopped on in the outskirts of Vienna. Your argument still makes sense though.

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(11-30-2018 10:04 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  Meh. The Chinese have been subjugated by virtually every people that's come through there. Mongols, Manchus, Europeans, Japanese,etc. Intellectually superior people don't find themselves in that position repeatedly.

Everyone's been invaded by their neighbors. Pretty much. Repeatedly. It's kind of a thing, neighboring countries invading each other. Even the recent "top dogs," England and Spain, have been repeatedly invaded throughout history and are a hodge podge of ethnicities due to their history of being invaded.

History fail.

Not remotely comparable.

England hasn't been conquered even by a neighbor since the Normans in 1066.

In the last 1,000 years, China was a client state of the Mongolians, Manchus, and Japanese. Then the Euro colonial powers just grabbed land/cities wherever they felt like it.

I can't think of a country that's been more trampled on honestly.

Siide note: most of the significant Chinese dynasties weren't even Chinese.
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Some of the most rudimentary aspects of civilization stem in whole or part from China. The Egypt- Mesopotamia- Indus - Chinese belt play a vital role in agrarian culture and animal domestication with chinese playing a key part in re certain cattle and staples. Hell China and Sumeria (Mesopotamia) are the only two civilizations that are thought to have independently discovered writing (mesoamerica is a debated third).

Chinese were some of the earliest pioneers in seafaring (see probable early contact with the Americas for instance), pioneers in weapon-making etc.

Alot of greco-roman invention looks derivative in comparison to the "Egypt-Asia belt"....though. In so far as modern times? wait and watch
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(11-30-2018 12:08 PM)Trumpian Wrote:  England hasn't been conquered even by a neighbor since the Normans in 1066.

Very true. Even then, William and his Norman cronies didn't do much fraternising with the native Anglo women (no ugly English women jokes, please). Same as the Romans before that. Until recently, the people of this Isle have been remarkably unchanged.

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(11-30-2018 12:08 PM)Trumpian Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 10:37 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 10:04 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  Meh. The Chinese have been subjugated by virtually every people that's come through there. Mongols, Manchus, Europeans, Japanese,etc. Intellectually superior people don't find themselves in that position repeatedly.

Everyone's been invaded by their neighbors. Pretty much. Repeatedly. It's kind of a thing, neighboring countries invading each other. Even the recent "top dogs," England and Spain, have been repeatedly invaded throughout history and are a hodge podge of ethnicities due to their history of being invaded.

History fail.

Not remotely comparable.

England hasn't been conquered even by a neighbor since the Normans in 1066.

In the last 1,000 years, China was a client state of the Mongolians, Manchus, and Japanese. Then the Euro colonial powers just grabbed land/cities wherever they felt like it.

I can't think of a country that's been more trampled on honestly.

Siide note: most of the significant Chinese dynasties weren't even Chinese.

China has been a perennial, self-perpetuating civilization and the place where the conquerers go and get assimilated. Today there are more ethnic Mongols living in China than in Mongolia. The Manchus don't exist as a group with any meaningful distinction from the Han. The greatest Manchu emperor, Kangxi, built a temple in honor of Yue Fei, the Chinese general who centuries earlier fought the Jurchens (direct ancestors of the Manchus) with a vengeance. When the Japanese invaded China, they rushed to take over the main Confucian temples and reinforce Confucianism as state religion.

"China" in Chinese just means "central state." Every megalomaniac wants to control the world and taking the center is a necessary step in the process. The ancient barbarians who wanted to take over China came from inhospitable deserts, steppes, mountains, and islands. Once they took over a little bit of Chinese territory, their egos swelled. They gave themselves Chinese dynastic titles and incorporated themselves in the pantheon of other great emperors whom they hoped to match and surpass.

The foreigners gave up their own identities because their own cultures weren't worth much in comparison to being master of the center, and whatever was worth preserving could simply be subsumed into the central-state civilizational bloc.

Europeans have an obsession with dividing things into smaller and smaller groupings. Every little region with a slight dialect seems to want, and in many cases, get, their own country. Then the SJW linguists will rush to say "this is actually a language but the mean oppressor neighboring country kept it down over the ages." This would be unthinkable in China, where nobody cares which village you came from or how unique its local "language" is. Written Chinese characters are the same pretty much everywhere and for all time and you have to know them to get anywhere in life. The sounds coming from your mortal vocal chords are nothing next to the immortal words the emperor has ordered etched onto rock steles and sacred mountains.
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(11-30-2018 12:04 PM)Philosopher Wrote:  Ghengis Khan was not on the outskirts if of Vienna when he died but more like modern Kazahstan. That was about ten years later wheb Ghenghis Khan's son whose early death due to alcoholism was the reason was The Monghils stopped on in the outskirts of Vienna. Your argument still makes sense though.

I believe the Mongols reached Ukraine, Hungary, and were about to conquer Poland when someone key (maybe GK himself) passed away, causing the horde to fall into disarray.
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(11-30-2018 11:53 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  I think the reason Europeans rule the world is because of the Punic wars. Carthage was Africa's best hope of being a world power but the fact that they used mercenaries rather than home grown troops like Rome was the primary reason for their defeat. But you got me thinking that maybe it was the Neanderthal genes that have the Romans the dogged like determination to keep fighting even after getting their asses handed to them multiple times by Hannibal.

Carthaginians were as "African" as Boers. Carthage was an entirely Phoenician colony and the Phoenicians were Semites through and through. Their alphabet was almost identical to Hebrew.

Nature never intended for Sub-Saharan Africans (Capoids and Congoids) to make contact with the rest of the world. But Europeans had to go and fuck that all up. And here we are.

Regarding the OP, Carleton Coon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carleton_S._Coon) was definitely on the right track with his multiregional theory (Homo sapiens arose separately in five different places from Homo erectus). But his work has been completely buried.

There are so many holes in the "Out of Africa" theory that it doesn't even merit discussion at this point. The claim that "Europe was populated by an early offshoot which settled the Near East and Europe less than 55,000 years ago" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_Afr...ern_humans) is absolutely ridiculous.

But people are not capable of logical and critical thinking anymore. Less than 55,000 years ago homo sapiens first entered Europe? And in that time, thanks to the climate, they evolved into silken-blonde-haired, blue-eyed, elongated-skulled, pale-skinned Germanic races that are fantastic swimmers?

Funny that Eskimos who have been living in northern Canada for at least 12,000 years are darker and more leathery than ever when they should actually be 1/4th of their way to becoming Germanic ubermensch. The Afrocentrism is just so absurd and all anthropologists and scientists are forced to bow down before it or lose their jobs.

Recently Rogan interviewed some professor named "von Hippel". Of course they both couldn't help but spread anti-scientific establishment propaganda and were doing some serious damage control in the context of sub-Saharan Africa's abysmal track record. It got so blatant at one point that I had to turn it off. Rogan's only palatable when he's interviewing athletes or other people who succeeded solely thanks to merit.
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(11-30-2018 03:57 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 12:04 PM)Philosopher Wrote:  Ghengis Khan was not on the outskirts if of Vienna when he died but more like modern Kazahstan. That was about ten years later wheb Ghenghis Khan's son whose early death due to alcoholism was the reason was The Monghils stopped on in the outskirts of Vienna. Your argument still makes sense though.

I believe the Mongols reached Ukraine, Hungary, and were about to conquer Poland when someone key (maybe GK himself) passed away, causing the horde to fall into disarray.

It was this son of Ghengis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96gedei_Khan
Ögedei (also Ogodei; Mongolian: Өгэдэй, translit. Ögedei, Mongolian: ᠥᠭᠡᠳᠡᠢ Ögedei,[2][3] ᠥᠭᠦᠳᠡᠢ Ögüdei;[4] Chinese: 窩闊台; c.1185– 11 December 1241), was the third son of Genghis Khan and second Great Khan of the Mongol Empire, succeeding his father. He continued the expansion of the empire that his father had begun, and was a world figure when the Mongol Empire reached its farthest extent west and south during the Mongol invasions of Europe and East Asia.[5] Like all of Genghis' primary sons, he participated extensively in conquests in China, Iran, and Central Asia.

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(11-30-2018 04:18 PM)Laconian Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 11:53 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  I think the reason Europeans rule the world is because of the Punic wars. Carthage was Africa's best hope of being a world power but the fact that they used mercenaries rather than home grown troops like Rome was the primary reason for their defeat. But you got me thinking that maybe it was the Neanderthal genes that have the Romans the dogged like determination to keep fighting even after getting their asses handed to them multiple times by Hannibal.

Carthaginians were as "African" as Boers. Carthage was an entirely Phoenician colony and the Phoenicians were Semites through and through. Their alphabet was almost identical to Hebrew.

Nature never intended for Sub-Saharan Africans (Capoids and Congoids) to make contact with the rest of the world. But Europeans had to go and fuck that all up. And here we are.

Regarding the OP, Carleton Coon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carleton_S._Coon) was definitely on the right track with his multiregional theory (Homo sapiens arose separately in five different places from Homo erectus). But his work has been completely buried.

There are so many holes in the "Out of Africa" theory that it doesn't even merit discussion at this point. The claim that "Europe was populated by an early offshoot which settled the Near East and Europe less than 55,000 years ago" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_Afr...ern_humans) is absolutely ridiculous.

But people are not capable of logical and critical thinking anymore. Less than 55,000 years ago homo sapiens first entered Europe? And in that time, thanks to the climate, they evolved into silken-blonde-haired, blue-eyed, elongated-skulled, pale-skinned Germanic races that are fantastic swimmers?

Funny that Eskimos who have been living in northern Canada for at least 12,000 years are darker and more leathery than ever when they should actually be 1/4th of their way to becoming Germanic ubermensch. The Afrocentrism is just so absurd and all anthropologists and scientists are forced to bow down before it or lose their jobs.

Recently Rogan interviewed some professor named "von Hippel". Of course they both couldn't help but spread anti-scientific establishment propaganda and were doing some serious damage control in the context of sub-Saharan Africa's abysmal track record. It got so blatant at one point that I had to turn it off. Rogan's only palatable when he's interviewing athletes or other people who succeeded solely thanks to merit.

But even if homo sapiens evolved separately dont we all share the same ancestors? So was it homo erectus that came out of Africa?

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(11-30-2018 12:09 PM)MANic Wrote:  Some of the most rudimentary aspects of civilization stem in whole or part from China. The Egypt- Mesopotamia- Indus - Chinese belt play a vital role in agrarian culture and animal domestication with chinese playing a key part in re certain cattle and staples. Hell China and Sumeria (Mesopotamia) are the only two civilizations that are thought to have independently discovered writing (mesoamerica is a debated third).

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The Chinese contributed a bit early on, but to say they have done the most in absolute terms is crazy. See the following table from Human Achievement by Charles Murray. I certainly fear them in th 21st century though as diversity destroys the west. Their lack of individualism is both a blessing and a course, it massively lowers innovation but also allows the government absolute control and to plan things out 50 years in advance.

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The Out of Africa theory mentioned above is really reeling, ironically because of chinese research. The Chinese believe that homo sapiens originated in Asia. This was also a common western view until after WW2.

Even proponents of OoA have had to move it back to at least 100.000bc

https://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-maga...te-history

Quote:The tide began to turn in 2015, when 47 teeth were found inside a cave in Daoxian, in Hunan province, also in southern China. Teeth are one of the best ways to distinguish between hominin species, and these were distinctly human – belonging to our own species – not to mention very old. According to Wu Liu at the Institute of Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology in Beijing and his colleagues, they had been lying around for 80,000 to 120,000 years.

I guess that means an OoA about 100.000 to 150.000 years ago.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien...64306.html

Quote:The important head, known as the Dali skull, was found 40 years ago in China. It was once a member of the early species – and our ancestor – the Homo erectus. It is surprisingly intact, with scientists still able to see the face and brain case as it would have been when its owner was living around 260,000 years ago.

It has strange similarities too with modern Homo sapiens. And the new research suggests that it has far more than expected in common with specimens found in morocco.

Quote:An earlier exit from Africa fits better with other recent discoveries. Just last year, a collection of Moroccan fossils suggested that our species could be 300,000 to 350,000 years old, adding at least 100,000 years to our history. Then, earlier this year, we learned that a group of Homo sapiens was living in what is now Israel at least 177,000 years ago.

So "Out of Africa" is pretty much completely debunked now, at least the part meaning a "Recent" migration out of Africa. That didn't happen as it was described.

It would help if we could try to see what homo erectus, the predecessor to sapiens, looked like. I think people would be surprised at the similarities to aboriginal people in Papa New Guinea.
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(11-30-2018 04:39 PM)Pride male Wrote:  But even if homo sapiens evolved separately dont we all share the same ancestors? So was it homo erectus that came out of Africa?

The earliest Homo erectus remains were discovered not in Africa but in Georgia and date from 1.8 million years ago.

With the present evidence, nobody can categorically state where and when homo erectus first emerged.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_erectus)

Either way, there's a huge goddamn difference between 50,000 and 1,800,000+ years of evolutionary eugenics. Really exposes the expressions "race is only skin deep" or "race is a social construct" for what they are -- Frankfurt School propaganda.
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