The Paperback Of Game Is Now Available! Several retailers have begun selling the physical copy of Game with free shipping. Click Here For Full Details.

Post Reply 
After Sex?
Author Message
coffeedrinker Offline
Game Denialist

Posts: 61
Joined: May 2018
Reputation: 0
Post: #1
After Sex?
Last night managed to have sex with a girl 1st date. 6th girl and first time in my life that i manage 2 different girls in one week.Initially it feels good. Then I remember that the first one went silent and while I haven't msged the second one, I have a feeling she will too. Some guys here seem to prefer that anyway, but for me, having never had a repeat partner (more than twice anyway), it makes me feel shit.

I have performance anxiety and while I think I try and make up for it with other skills in bed, I don't ever know if I'm doing a good job or not. Last night, I just went for it without trying to have any fear and only lasted about 20 seconds. Then in the morning we started foreplay and I lasted 20 seconds of her giving me a BJ. Serious issue.

I've started the no fap challenge for over a week and a half and determined to keep at it (The pain of seeing a girl being outright bored from movie we were watching, to being more excited by the movie then her trying to get me hard again is some serious motivation to never watch porn again).

I need a repeat partner for at least a while to get some confidence in myself because the fear of always underperforming first time having sex with someone is contributing to the weak performance. I do try to ignore it, but it's always on the back of my mind and it sucks.

What are some other suggestions to prepare for next girl so I can perform as best as I can?

Appreciate any advice.
12-01-2018 02:06 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes coffeedrinker's post:
Built to Fade
Winston Wolfe Offline
Recovering Beta
*

Posts: 209
Joined: Jan 2018
Reputation: 21
Post: #2
RE: After Sex?
It looks like approaching, pulling and closing are no problems for you, which is good.

Understand a few things:

1) A percentage of girls is always going to ghost on you, no matter if you last 20 seconds or 20 hours. They're just looking for a bang and that's it.

2) Girls will forgive far more than you would think. My problem isn't that I can't last long, but I have been in other kinds of objectively embarassing situations myself. Anyone on here who claims he hasn't, is lying. I'm always surprised by how well the girls take it and how willing they are to work on a problem with you.

The no fap challenge is good regardless of what your exact issue is, that's a good start so keep at it.

I know it's easier said than done, but you need to start not giving a shit. You came in 20 seconds? Don't even apologize for it, just say something like "well that was a quick one" and lie down with her (or don't even say anything). You being insecure about it will make her lose attraction more than the actual fact that it happened.

Now as for actionable advice, maybe someone else can chime in as I don't have direct experience with this particular problem. Maybe try taking things way slower, or go for a second round after you came the first time, so the second time you might last longer?
(This post was last modified: 12-01-2018 11:27 PM by Winston Wolfe.)
12-01-2018 11:22 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 9 users Like Winston Wolfe's post:
kaotic, Remington, coffeedrinker, firat113, Cr33pin, BBinger, falafel, Zoso, Built to Fade
Remington Offline
True Player
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 1,878
Joined: Aug 2013
Reputation: 28
Post: #3
RE: After Sex?
cd, I've had similar experience with finishing fast.

When I was unemployed and not going to the gym, I was in a depressive state. I had a 3 girl rotation where I couldn't last long at all.

It really sucked. Felt like I was a piece of shit. However, one part of me said, "got my nut, so who cares?"

But, it really bothered me to the point where I needed to make a change.

After that, I got another job, and started lifting again. All that anxiety about finishing early completely disappeared. I was fucking girls and finishing when I wanted.

Was totally in control.

Make a change in your lifestyle where your confidence will soar, and watch your sex life become much better.

Reporter: What keeps you awake at night?
General James "Mad Dog" Mattis: Nothing, I keep other people awake at night.

OKC Data Sheet
12-01-2018 11:47 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 8 users Like Remington's post:
coffeedrinker, Akwesi, Winston Wolfe, Cr33pin, DJ-Matt, godzilla, BBinger, Built to Fade
coffeedrinker Offline
Game Denialist

Posts: 61
Joined: May 2018
Reputation: 0
Post: #4
RE: After Sex?
(12-01-2018 11:22 PM)Winston Wolfe Wrote:  It looks like approaching, pulling and closing are no problems for you, which is good.

Understand a few things:

1) A percentage of girls is always going to ghost on you, no matter if you last 20 seconds or 20 hours. They're just looking for a bang and that's it.

2) Girls will forgive far more than you would think. My problem isn't that I can't last long, but I have been in other kinds of objectively embarassing situations myself. Anyone on here who claims he hasn't, is lying. I'm always surprised by how well the girls take it and how willing they are to work on a problem with you.

The no fap challenge is good regardless of what your exact issue is, that's a good start so keep at it.

I know it's easier said than done, but you need to start not giving a shit. You came in 20 seconds? Don't even apologize for it, just say something like "well that was a quick one" and lie down with her (or don't even say anything). You being insecure about it will make her lose attraction more than the actual fact that it happened.

Now as for actionable advice, maybe someone else can chime in as I don't have direct experience with this particular problem. Maybe try taking things way slower, or go for a second round after you came the first time, so the second time you might last longer?

With 1) I understand but when it has been 100%, it makes me think I have a problem that I can't pinpoint and it is frustrating. I know that given it's only been a few girls, it can be just be bad luck but it doesn't seem to help me get over this.

2) I've stopped apologising but I do try and compensate by fingering her again. Usually I do last longer the second time but then I get the opposite problem of keeping my erection up lol.

(12-01-2018 11:47 PM)Remington Wrote:  cd, I've had similar experience with finishing fast.

When I was unemployed and not going to the gym, I was in a depressive state. I had a 3 girl rotation where I couldn't last long at all.

It really sucked. Felt like I was a piece of shit. However, one part of me said, "got my nut, so who cares?"

But, it really bothered me to the point where I needed to make a change.

After that, I got another job, and started lifting again. All that anxiety about finishing early completely disappeared. I was fucking girls and finishing when I wanted.

Was totally in control.

Make a change in your lifestyle where your confidence will soar, and watch your sex life become much better.

This is actually a big thing for me. I tend to be stressed all the time even when I'm not doing too bad in life. Gym does help me a lot but have been inconsistent due to some health issues. I managed to get 2 surgeries that were hindering my progress and hoping that I can make progress with weights now.

Thanks for the advice guys. I know I ramble a lot sometimes, but this forum lets me release the things that come up in my head who many of my friends would not really understand or help me with.
12-02-2018 06:40 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes coffeedrinker's post:
Built to Fade
firat113 Offline
Beta Orbiter
*

Posts: 96
Joined: Jan 2018
Reputation: 1
Post: #5
RE: After Sex?
@coffedrinker this is literally me when i first started out. I had no problem pulling and escalating, my problem was the closing and the sex part which gave me tremendous performance anxiety because i could not last longer than a minute. It comes down to a few things. If you don't care about the girl you're with, you wouldn't want to do all of this im about to explain to you. You would just fuck her once and leave her, but in your case, i read that you want to try have sex more than once with a girl, so here's my advice.

Winston Wolfe's advice is absolutely spot on. Girls don't care so much about whether you cum in a minute or 10. Girls will forgive a lot more than you think. If she decided to sleep with you, she liked your personality enough to spread her legs for you, which means you've fucked her mentally, now you only need to fuck her physically. Halfway there already. That's a good start. One thing you should never do is being apologetic and showing weakness after cumming too fast. I used to do that and i saw how quickly girls lost attraction for me because i projected insecurity/beta behaviour. Girls are usually insecure about themselves, they want the guy to make them feel comfortable and secure, so when you lack that aspect you will repel them off faster than anything in this world.

A tip i can give you is trying to relax, breathing is important and also relaxing the muscles. The more you tense your muscles, the faster you will ejaculate. It's a fact. With more experience, you will also learn your "trigger" point where you're about to reach climax 90%. You need to learn the cooldown. It will come, don't worry. 2 things i started doing that helped me in my journey of premature ejaculation other than nofap/no porn. #1 foreplay my man. I used to hate it but now i can't go without it.

It's like lubrication for the girl before the actual sex. Honestly, for some girls, the foreplay part is more exciting than the sex itself. Learn to make her cum before you even stick your penis inside of her. If you can manage to do this by either fingering her, going down on her, playing with her tits, sucking on them, kissing her between her thighs, kissing her neck, tease her etc she wouldn't even mind you cumming early, once she already reached an orgasm, even if you cum within 10 seconds.

Obviously, i couldn't do this forever, since i felt shit for still cumming early and i wanted the sex part to last longer than a minute. I felt like a little boy, didn't feel very masculine having my finger and mouth do the work. So, i started learning about my trigger point, the point where you're about to reach climax. If you feel like cumming, something you want to do is pull out for 30-60 seconds and finger her all you can while kissing her. If you're smooth about it she won't even notice you pulled out (obviously depends on position). Another thing is switching positions frequently, have 2-3 positions you can transition from to cooldown. A technique i learned was going for 50% speed for a minute then up it to 80% speed for half a minute then switch position. Repeat. Switch position, go for 1.5-2 minutes. Repeat. This way you can control the buildup and stop right before you reach climax.

Also, blowjobs were too good for me lol so i tend to avoid them while i fixed my problem. You'd want to give her before she gives you in the beginning until you learn to be in control of your body. This way you will avoid many awkward situations the first time. The more partners the more in control you will be. You will start doing things subconsciously with little to no effort, once you get more experience with women. It's like learning to drive a car with manual gear, at first you look at the gearbox every time you have to switch because you're not used to the pattern of movement. But after a while you start doing it like it's nothing, no need to look, just feeling it with your hand is enough.

(12-01-2018 11:22 PM)Winston Wolfe Wrote:  I know it's easier said than done, but you need to start not giving a shit. You came in 20 seconds? Don't even apologize for it, just say something like "well that was a quick one" and lie down with her (or don't even say anything). You being insecure about it will make her lose attraction more than the actual fact that it happened.

I remember the first time with this girl i had seen for a little while, everything was exciting, we spent a lot of time together and had a lot of fun. The first time we we had sex i lasted for 30 seconds. I felt like a piece of shit and it showed in my behaviour towards the girl that liked me so much, she said it's fine we will just try again later. She came to "comfort" me but i was just sitting on the edge of the bed angry at myself, ignoring her when she came to kiss me.

But the way i acted and the way i pushed her away with my words showed so much weakness that we eventually fell out of contact, even when she was actually so into me the few times we'd seen each other and things were going great. So this is very important concept to understand. You need to hold your frame if something like this happens.

2 things i started saying instead of showing insecurity "damn, it's been a while, first round is for me, next round is for you" in case you don't make her cum and want to go for a round 2. In case you don't make her cum the first time. A lot of virgin guys / inexperienced guys think that you need to fuck a girl like a pornstar for her to come back crawling to you. No, you just need to string her along emotionally enough and she will do anything for you. Keyword. Foreplay. Make her cum before you cum. The more i fucked new girls the longer i could last because eventually my anxiety completely disappeared, so it put ease on everything else.
12-02-2018 09:52 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like firat113's post:
BBinger, Built to Fade
Off The Reservation Offline
True Player
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 2,355
Joined: Jul 2015
Reputation: 87
Post: #6
RE: After Sex?
just call her

Roosh Wrote:Only full digestion of the red pill can make these situations come out in your favor.
12-02-2018 10:43 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes Off The Reservation's post:
Built to Fade
coffeedrinker Offline
Game Denialist

Posts: 61
Joined: May 2018
Reputation: 0
Post: #7
RE: After Sex?
(12-02-2018 09:52 AM)firat113 Wrote:  @coffedrinker this is literally me when i first started out. I had no problem pulling and escalating, my problem was the closing and the sex part which gave me tremendous performance anxiety because i could not last longer than a minute. It comes down to a few things. If you don't care about the girl you're with, you wouldn't want to do all of this im about to explain to you. You would just fuck her once and leave her, but in your case, i read that you want to try have sex more than once with a girl, so here's my advice.

Winston Wolfe's advice is absolutely spot on. Girls don't care so much about whether you cum in a minute or 10. Girls will forgive a lot more than you think. If she decided to sleep with you, she liked your personality enough to spread her legs for you, which means you've fucked her mentally, now you only need to fuck her physically. Halfway there already. That's a good start. One thing you should never do is being apologetic and showing weakness after cumming too fast. I used to do that and i saw how quickly girls lost attraction for me because i projected insecurity/beta behaviour. Girls are usually insecure about themselves, they want the guy to make them feel comfortable and secure, so when you lack that aspect you will repel them off faster than anything in this world.

A tip i can give you is trying to relax, breathing is important and also relaxing the muscles. The more you tense your muscles, the faster you will ejaculate. It's a fact. With more experience, you will also learn your "trigger" point where you're about to reach climax 90%. You need to learn the cooldown. It will come, don't worry. 2 things i started doing that helped me in my journey of premature ejaculation other than nofap/no porn. #1 foreplay my man. I used to hate it but now i can't go without it.

It's like lubrication for the girl before the actual sex. Honestly, for some girls, the foreplay part is more exciting than the sex itself. Learn to make her cum before you even stick your penis inside of her. If you can manage to do this by either fingering her, going down on her, playing with her tits, sucking on them, kissing her between her thighs, kissing her neck, tease her etc she wouldn't even mind you cumming early, once she already reached an orgasm, even if you cum within 10 seconds.

Obviously, i couldn't do this forever, since i felt shit for still cumming early and i wanted the sex part to last longer than a minute. I felt like a little boy, didn't feel very masculine having my finger and mouth do the work. So, i started learning about my trigger point, the point where you're about to reach climax. If you feel like cumming, something you want to do is pull out for 30-60 seconds and finger her all you can while kissing her. If you're smooth about it she won't even notice you pulled out (obviously depends on position). Another thing is switching positions frequently, have 2-3 positions you can transition from to cooldown. A technique i learned was going for 50% speed for a minute then up it to 80% speed for half a minute then switch position. Repeat. Switch position, go for 1.5-2 minutes. Repeat. This way you can control the buildup and stop right before you reach climax.

Also, blowjobs were too good for me lol so i tend to avoid them while i fixed my problem. You'd want to give her before she gives you in the beginning until you learn to be in control of your body. This way you will avoid many awkward situations the first time. The more partners the more in control you will be. You will start doing things subconsciously with little to no effort, once you get more experience with women. It's like learning to drive a car with manual gear, at first you look at the gearbox every time you have to switch because you're not used to the pattern of movement. But after a while you start doing it like it's nothing, no need to look, just feeling it with your hand is enough.

(12-01-2018 11:22 PM)Winston Wolfe Wrote:  I know it's easier said than done, but you need to start not giving a shit. You came in 20 seconds? Don't even apologize for it, just say something like "well that was a quick one" and lie down with her (or don't even say anything). You being insecure about it will make her lose attraction more than the actual fact that it happened.

I remember the first time with this girl i had seen for a little while, everything was exciting, we spent a lot of time together and had a lot of fun. The first time we we had sex i lasted for 30 seconds. I felt like a piece of shit and it showed in my behaviour towards the girl that liked me so much, she said it's fine we will just try again later. She came to "comfort" me but i was just sitting on the edge of the bed angry at myself, ignoring her when she came to kiss me.

But the way i acted and the way i pushed her away with my words showed so much weakness that we eventually fell out of contact, even when she was actually so into me the few times we'd seen each other and things were going great. So this is very important concept to understand. You need to hold your frame if something like this happens.

2 things i started saying instead of showing insecurity "damn, it's been a while, first round is for me, next round is for you" in case you don't make her cum and want to go for a round 2. In case you don't make her cum the first time. A lot of virgin guys / inexperienced guys think that you need to fuck a girl like a pornstar for her to come back crawling to you. No, you just need to string her along emotionally enough and she will do anything for you. Keyword. Foreplay. Make her cum before you cum. The more i fucked new girls the longer i could last because eventually my anxiety completely disappeared, so it put ease on everything else.

Hey man, cheers for the advice.

Thanks for the detailed reply.

Because I've practised kegels, I know when I'm about to reach the no return point. The problem is that it's happening so quickly that pulling in and out so frequently is a bit weird. Also, by tensing the muscles to stop myself from finishing, I occasionally over do it and then set up the opposite problem where I lose or can't hold the erection for long.

Standing up positions, I can last a lot longer but then again I tend to get the opposite problem where I can't keep hard.

That is why I want a repeat girl for a while so I can relax a little and prove to myself that I can do it.

I'll txt 2nd girl tomorrow, hopefully she hasn't lost interest.
12-02-2018 12:07 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes coffeedrinker's post:
Built to Fade
coffeedrinker Offline
Game Denialist

Posts: 61
Joined: May 2018
Reputation: 0
Post: #8
RE: After Sex?
(12-02-2018 10:43 AM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  just call her

Called 2nd girl, left voicemail. She called later and I set up to go bowling.

However, dates after sex are uncharted territory for me. My aim isn't just to have sex again, but to keep things exciting. I know the usual advice of being mysterious and vague etc but is there a detailed 'for idiots' guide on how to keep girls wanting more? Do I still need to use plausible deniability if I want to bring her back again?

First date logistics were: Cool Bar -> Ice cream -> Nice Quite City Spot for Chilling -> Back to mine

Plan for second: Bowling -> Food -> Drive to this quite spot that has an amazing view ->Escalate in car, see how far I can get and if it goes well -> back to mine.
12-03-2018 03:04 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes coffeedrinker's post:
Built to Fade
coffeedrinker Offline
Game Denialist

Posts: 61
Joined: May 2018
Reputation: 0
Post: #9
RE: After Sex?
The brain is a weird thing. Due to being inexperienced, oneitis seems to affect me in regards to the girl who I currently think is most likely to have sex with me.

For example. I was frustrated that girl I had sex with was not replying to my text even though I had a date with a hotter girl on same day. After having sex with 2nd girl, it completely removed any cares for previous girl, particularly when 2nd girl agreed to go out again. Yesterday, 2nd girl said she was probably going to cancel as she was very ill. Again that caused that same frustration even though I knew I was going out and will have the opportunity to pull.
During the night at the club, thinking about that frustration made me repeat some complete newb mistakes. However, near the end, I lowered my standards and managed to pull a girl and go back to hers. Didn't seal the deal as her flatmates came but got a BJ anyway.

Simple enough, increase opportunities, reduce pain when one of them disappears as the usual advice dealing with oneitis and similar pains.

To make it easier to get more opportunities, I realise now you have to enjoy the hunt. In the first two-three years of my university, I went out clubbing 3-4 nights every week and didn't have sex once. Why? Most nights I drank so much to enjoy the night that I was in no state to bring a girl back even if there was a girl willing. I need to focus more on daygame, and when I do go out at night to stick to quiter areas in clubs where conversation is easier.

Slowly, I'm trying to correct lots of bad habits, limiting beliefs and false perceptions but it does often feel like two steps forwards, one step back which can be dscouraging.
12-06-2018 07:25 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes coffeedrinker's post:
Built to Fade
chvrches Offline
Game Denialist

Posts: 53
Joined: Feb 2018
Reputation: 0
Post: #10
RE: After Sex?
cofeedrinker what do you say or do in order to have them come home with you or get back to their place? Im shit at closing and was always wondering how guys pulled the girl back home after creating the attraction. Do you tell her something along the line with "we should get back to my place and get a drink?". And when is it you do that because girls dont seem to want to leave the club early, so unless its the end of their nights they dont want to weap up and go home with you.
12-06-2018 07:29 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes chvrches's post:
Built to Fade
coffeedrinker Offline
Game Denialist

Posts: 61
Joined: May 2018
Reputation: 0
Post: #11
RE: After Sex?
(12-06-2018 07:29 AM)chvrches Wrote:  cofeedrinker what do you say or do in order to have them come home with you or get back to their place? Im shit at closing and was always wondering how guys pulled the girl back home after creating the attraction. Do you tell her something along the line with "we should get back to my place and get a drink?". And when is it you do that because girls dont seem to want to leave the club early, so unless its the end of their nights they dont want to weap up and go home with you.

The girl last night, it was literally 5 mins before the club closed and she was at max a 5 so I'm sure someone has better advice than me but:

I think moving them as soon as possible is great for couple of reasons.

1) It shows you can lead if you say "Lets go to x" whether x is within the venue (i.e. from one area to another or to smoking area or dance floor).

2) It can get rid of friends (girl last night had a friend with her that wasn't too happy I stole her dancing partner so when I moved her from one dance floor to the main, got "rid" of her friend.)

3)In a way it sets up plausible deniability and a bit of comfort in her following you. You have already moved her to a couple of spots and nothing bad has happened / she has enjoyed it. Therefore she's more likely to accept if you lead her towards your end location.

4) Some girls just aren't available for whatever reason. If you can't even get them to move them within the venue, what is the chance you will move them to your bed? If she is worth it or there is a good reason why she can't go with you, maybe get her number after building some attraction and comfort to set up a date for when logistics/other barriers are not on the way.

Logistics can be a big problem that needs to be pre-planned in advance though. For me last night, it was either pull a fresher (they live 5 mins walk from club) or get a 10 min cab to mine, so relatively easy.

A friend of mine who does pretty well with girls tends to say "Lets go for a walk outside" and then just leads them to either a cab, or food place before going to cab. If she asks where they are going before reaching cab, he just stays vague/just walking. When they reach cab and she then asks again, he just says any plausible deniability line to get her back to his. Usually by this time she has invested enough time and effort that it's too late to cancel.

With girl from last night:

I spoke to her for a minute before saying we should go for a walk outside. She said "No, this is my fav song". So I said, "Ok, lets go and dance on the main floor than" There we made out. Pulling away before she does (particularly on first few kisses) always works wonders for me.

After that song, I basically said "exits will get packed if we stay right to the end, lets leave now and go for a walk".
Outside, she herself suggested we go to a few cool spots on campus but she wasn't wearing her heels so I suggested we go back to hers to put some shoes on first. When we got to her room, she made a point about just changing shoes and going back outside. But as soon as I entered, I started making out with her and escalating.


It was also quite funny because just before I spoke to this girl, a different girl basically pulled one of my friends whose tall and can attract girls just with looks. She initiated contact and make out with him and he wouldn't escalate further. They made out for about 10 mins on same spot and then her friends came and it got awkward. Opportunity missed.
12-06-2018 10:48 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like coffeedrinker's post:
chvrches, Built to Fade
chvrches Offline
Game Denialist

Posts: 53
Joined: Feb 2018
Reputation: 0
Post: #12
RE: After Sex?
Great explanation, thanks! "let's go for a walk" is one i will for sure use tomorrow night. You did say you made out with her on the dancefloor, i read a lot people here recommend that you wait for escalation(kissing) to the moment where you can have sex with her, for example at your place or at somewhere away from the club. But don't know how that would work out then. You have to create some kind of attraction before getting her with you home.

Another thing that annoyed me is trying to get girls to switch venue, and they wouldnt want to leave because of their friend, they don't want to leave her alone and especially not leave to my place to have sex when the friend will be at the club alone. Not sure how i can fix this unless i find a wingman... Maybe those kind of girls as you mention just arent ready to fuck on the same night.
12-06-2018 02:29 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes chvrches's post:
Built to Fade
coffeedrinker Offline
Game Denialist

Posts: 61
Joined: May 2018
Reputation: 0
Post: #13
RE: After Sex?
(12-06-2018 02:29 PM)chvrches Wrote:  Great explanation, thanks! "let's go for a walk" is one i will for sure use tomorrow night. You did say you made out with her on the dancefloor, i read a lot people here recommend that you wait for escalation(kissing) to the moment where you can have sex with her, for example at your place or at somewhere away from the club. But don't know how that would work out then. You have to create some kind of attraction before getting her with you home.

Another thing that annoyed me is trying to get girls to switch venue, and they wouldnt want to leave because of their friend, they don't want to leave her alone and especially not leave to my place to have sex when the friend will be at the club alone. Not sure how i can fix this unless i find a wingman... Maybe those kind of girls as you mention just arent ready to fuck on the same night.

On dates I like to hold up kissing (most of the time) until they get back to mine.

In clubs, I think it depends. I'm still at university with student nights out and making out makes fuck all of a difference for a girl. Like girls might laugh a bit for making out with someone but will hardly ever give her shit for it. So while I don't think making out with a girl increases your chances of sleeping with a girl, it makes it easier to screen girls that may be willing (so long you escalate) and for me it also gives me a confidence boost.
12-06-2018 04:50 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like coffeedrinker's post:
chvrches, Built to Fade
Post Reply 


Forum Jump:


User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)

Contact Us | RooshV.com | Return to Top | Return to Content | Mobile Version | RSS Syndication