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24-year old virgin: Time to fix my life
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24-year old virgin: Time to fix my life
Just a quick introduction for those of you who haven’t read my 19 posts on this forum.

I’m a 24-year old virgin.

Have approached (what feels like) 1000 women since I first discovered game in 2013.

Most girls reject me right after my opener. It doesn’t matter if I open direct or indirect.

I mostly do lone wolf daygame, but I’ve done a bit of nightgame as well.

Gotten maybe like 100 numbers and only 6 dates.

Anyways, here’s what I think is wrong with my life:


Currently, I’m 5’9, 138 lbs.

The main reason I’m so skinny is because I suffer from shoulder dyskinesis and piriformis syndrome.

I’ve been working with various health professionals for several years, but none of them can seem to help.

Right now, I’m working with an osteopath, and he’s been the most helpful so far, but I’m not sure if he can fix me 100%. I guess I just gotta keep working with him and doing his exercises.

Been trying to eat more and am slowly gaining weight (about 2 lbs a month).

I can lift light weights, but I find if I go too heavy, I start experiencing pain in my left arm and my left leg. Right now, I’m running a modified StrongLifts program and gradually pushing through my pain thresholds.


I have a looks-maxing thread on another forum. Please PM me for the link. I’ve been gradually improving my wardrobe using the advice I’ve been given so far.


So I graduated in 2017 with a useless bachelor’s degree in psychology.

Right now, I work random office jobs through the temp agency.

They always have work for me, and they always pay $15 an hour, which equates to about $2000 a month after taxes.

Put simply, I earn very little.

I’ve thought long and hard about what I’m passionate about, and of course, it’s reading and writing.

But how do you make money writing?

Well, I found out about copywriting.

So I completed a prestigious online course. Polished up my portfolio and created a website to showcase it.

Going to compile a list of advertising agencies in my area and start cold calling them to see if they need any freelance work done. Also been applying to some jobs on a copywriting Facebook group as well.

Pretty much going all in with my business. If it fails, I might go back to school for something stupid, but more employable, like digital marketing, tourism management, or public relations. I can also try applying to actual copywriting jobs, rather than trying to be a freelancer.

Because the way I see it is this: I suck at math and science, I can’t code, and I suck at working with my hands (trades). The only thing I seem to enjoy is reading and writing.


I still live at home with my parents, which sucks, because they are super-religious and don’t approve of me bringing home random girls.

I’m currently in Vancouver, but am thinking of moving to a cheaper Canadian city like Calgary or Ottawa.

The problem is that I’m not sure if I could survive living on my own making $2000 a month. I would prefer a one-bedroom apartment downtown to ensure solid logistics and no cockblocking roommates.

So I’m conflicted now on whether I should move out ASAP, go back to school, or work on my business more. I currently have 15k saved up.

Social Circle

All my old friends just smoke weed and play video games, so I cut them off.

Now I have no friends.

Maybe if I had a social circle where I was constantly meeting hot girls every week, that would make my life easier than just grinding it out with cold approach.

But I don’t know how to become friends with the high-status kids.

My only plan is to force myself to go back to gaming in bars and clubs. But this time, instead of just focusing on talking to the hot girls, focus on talking to EVERYONE. This includes the hot girls, the groups of hot girls and guys, and the groups of just hot guys.

Pretty much just talk to EVERYONE, regardless of if they are girls, guys, or mixed.

Try to bring as much value as I can, like what Noir mentioned in Beer’s social circle thread.

I know I don’t have much value, so the only thing I can bring to the table is positive vibes and the desire to get to know someone on a deeper level (most people don’t care about “intellectual” conversation in nightlife though, they just want to have fun).

High standards

Another thing that’s holding me back from getting laid is my high standards.

I’m a delusional virgin with high standards. I pretty much only approach 6’s and up.

Also, I’m Asian, but I only approach white girls. I don’t find minority girls attractive for some fucked-up reason.

I’m currently trying to do nofap, but it's been hard as hell. My longest streaks have been 22 and 17 days. I find that when I don’t fap for awhile, girls start to look a lot more hotter, which is good because it makes me approach more.

Anyways, I’ve had an ugly girl offer me sex before, but I turned her down. She had purple hair, piercings, and tattoos. I will not give my V-card to a girl like that.

I rather keep working on my SMV until I can garner interest from the 6’s and up.

Because the way I see it is this: I’ve been approaching for so long. When I finally meet a girl who’s DTF, I want her to be at least decently attractive. I want the feeling of satisfaction that all my hard work has paid off. If I pay a hooker or nail a 4, what would’ve been the point of all that effort?

Anyways, I think that’s enough rambling for now. As you can see, I have many problems, but I hope that by posting here, I can sort my thoughts out and receive some actionable advice.
(This post was last modified: 12-04-2018 01:51 PM by Alpha_Ambitionz.)
12-04-2018 01:00 PM
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RE: 24-year old virgin: Time to fix my life
Your best bet would be to go to SE Asia and drop your standards. From what I've read those women throw themselves at Western men because there's no hint of masculinity in those countries. If you don't have enough money save up. Realize that sex isn't a big deal at the end of the day and get experience one way or the other. I'm not a virgin but I'm sort of in your position (working dead end jobs, still living with parents, etc). I've tried the whole American women stuff and cold approaching and you're swimming up creek when you do that. I've even had fairly average girls flake on me don't get me started on hot chicks. I'm currently doing social media glam lifestyle to help my odds with western chicks but that will take a couple more months.

If you can't get laid in SE Asia you have some kind of social anxiety. I personally don't want to fuck hundreds of girls but just want to get enough experience so I know what I want when I do settle down as well as can fuck my wife properly, knowing I can leave if she wants to let herself go. Game is the gift that keeps on giving don't give up Wink

Oh and I forgot to mention when you do get older you will regret not fucking more girls. This is something that is in the back of my head. Only you can decide how much is enough. I personally would be cool once I hit 50 so I can focus on other matters. Generally speaking and this is something you have to work at but high school never ends. If you can't get girls chances are high you're in the category of gamer geek or other assorted loser. You want to eventually position yourself as high school jock or frat boy. This is something I'm working on so just consider yourself a work in progress.

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12-04-2018 01:14 PM
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RE: 24-year old virgin: Time to fix my life
My advice to you is to move out, it will allow you to operate much smoother and think more clearly with no one controlling what you do. Once you have your independence it will be much easier to get girls.
12-04-2018 01:25 PM
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RE: 24-year old virgin: Time to fix my life
+1 on the advice to move out. Moving to a new city with a cooler scene and making some new friends can help you improve your reputation and SMV, as well as get you access to new girls.
If you are seen in your current social circle as the loser / awkward guy, you may need to drastically change location to escape that rep, you can change your behaviour that your current friends have come to expect from you and basically reinvent yourself.

Get busy studying game and approaching then fake it till you make it. Count your progress in months/years, it's not a 2 week seminar.

It might also help to travel abroad - I was shy and barely getting laid in my 20's but 6 months in South America I've more than doubled my numbers. This was before I really committed to learning game, just stumbling around but with the right combination of environment and local girls / tourist chicks I had much less hurdles, bitch shields and LMRs to get through as well as feeling more free to be a better version of myself.
12-05-2018 07:08 AM
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RE: 24-year old virgin: Time to fix my life
What do you usually say to a chick when you step to her that you’re getting immediately blown out by almost all chicks?

Also you’ve chatted to like 4 girls a week on average? Where and when are you doing this?

You don’t sound completely socially clueless but maybe you are just technically doing things wrong. Describe your usual approach and then you can get better advice.

Also beggars can’t be choosers, it’s better to work through some girls to get down your mechanics than to turn down everything out of some feeling of having standards.

Beats, rhymes and life

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12-05-2018 10:24 AM
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RE: 24-year old virgin: Time to fix my life
You're a 5'9, 138 lb Asian guy.

You need to start eating food and you need to hit the gym.

It'll take some time but you will get there.

Women want to be with men who they can show off to their friends. Their mouth says "This is my boyfriend, he treats me well." but their mind says "This is my boyfriend bitch, I hope you're jealous." That's just the way it is. You have to bring something to the table.

Also try to break into the EDM music scene, concerts, raves, etc. You're at a good age for it.

So to sum it up: Diet, Gym, Dancing .

I don't think moving out while making 2,000 a month is a smart move. You have 15,000 dollars in the bank. A hotel room cost $50.00 a night. Finding a place to fuck a girl shouldn't be a problem.
12-05-2018 10:49 AM
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RE: 24-year old virgin: Time to fix my life

Co-sign this advice from LINUX. need to drop your standards a bit, in my view. And the self-hate. You are an Asian male--the fact that you're only attracted to white 6s is messed up. And also kind of sad because this mindset will definitely hamstring your inner-Game/psychological/emotional development. You think that fucking or being seen with a girl who's not white or at least a 6 confirms all the most terrible things you think about yourself. That's bullshit, of course. You need to get to bottom of that and destroy it at the roots. You need to change your mind about yourself.

You're on the right path, so keep going. It won't be easy and you need to be willing to suffer at times--oftentimes--to make progress. Just remember to compare yourself to who you were yesterday instead of some archetypical Chad you have in your mind.

Move forward, each slow inch, and the gains will come---I promise Smile

We suffer more in our own minds than we do in reality.
12-05-2018 11:13 AM
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RE: 24-year old virgin: Time to fix my life
Well, if I was in your position chasing girls would be the last thing on my mind...

You should get your whole life straightened out and then start pursuing 7+ women. For now you seem to be more in survival mode/trying to make it mode. Well let's start with your priorities. If I were you, I'd take care of all your health issues immediately. I'm not a health expert but it seems you have some serious health issues that you need to conquer. I think something like yoga or meditation can also help in healing the body. There is even something called DDP Yoga invented by former WcW wrestler Diamond Dallas Page. Check getting your nutrition on point as well. But hey what do I know in regards to that...

In-terms of work it seems you stumbled upon something that could make you location independent. When it comes to dating your location is really important as well. If you really wan't top notch quality like you claim. Your gonna probably have to go the learn a foreign language and live abroad. Sure you can be successful in your home country, as a skinny asian guy its gonna be alot tougher due to male competition. I heard Asians are exotic in latin america, so maybe that could be something to take into consideration. Make it alot easier for yourself by eliminating the male competition. Especially if you have a lighter skin tone, it could definitely help.

Also some countries in eastern europe like Poland, Ukraine, and Estonia. You can look into as well. If you wanna stay in Canada you were thinking of either Calgary or Ottawa. I lived in Ottawa for a while and I can say there is a visible Chinese ethnic enclave over there. I don't know how the Asian guys are doing over there, but I saw a lot of asian chicks and white guy couple's. I didn't see too much of the other tbh.
Regardless, you should definitely get your work situation figured out as well. Do you wanna be established in Canada or be live abroad with a location independent lifestyle.

For your social life I think it would be better to make some positive friends that are moving in the same direction as you. If your a freelance writer maybe check meetup and hit up one of these meetup groups. Start trying to meet like minded people and network with them. One thing I enjoy doing as well is networking online. I believe in two things: You must network in person, and network online. Make some e-buddies were you can chat over skype and whatsapp. Have some healthy conversations since humans are social creatures.

As for woman for the time being. Since you lack a lot of intimate and sexual experience. I'd tell you straight up just focus on getting a girlfriend. Just get a girlfriend for the time being, put being a player on the back burner. Create some wonderful experiences with her, and enjoy yourself. So when you start dating multiple women, you already got something on your resume.

Get all other areas of your life sorted out and then go ahead and indulge in the depths of promiscuity.
12-05-2018 07:38 PM
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RE: 24-year old virgin: Time to fix my life
Due to your race, and how you came across in the post, I would recommend joining Toastmasters, as Roosh recommends. It will improve your social skills to a good level. Hit the gym hard. StrongLifts is good. But you need a lot of protein. Over 100 grams for a hard gainer. For someone as low weight as you, you might even consider doing a gallon of milk a day to bulk up. Work on social skills and get good in the gym. You’ll then be able to gain respect from others and, if your worried about social circle, you should be able to get it in the gym by asking the experienced guys for a spotter or advice on techniques. Use the social skills that you will have developed at toastmasters. The gym guys you meet will be higher value on average, and good in the looks category, and likely they won’t be too involved with drugs and video games like your old friends. So my two recommendations: get better socially (toastmasters, Seinfeld) and go to the gym, make some friends and consume enough protein. Again, a gallon of milk a day might not be a bad idea if you want to bulk up, which I think you need to do.
Keep up the good work.
12-08-2018 01:52 AM
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