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RE: Woman furious after Southwest employee mocks daughter's name, 'Abcde'
This bitch stole my idea...
I wanted to name my son AC/DC!

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12-05-2018 08:13 AM
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(12-05-2018 05:58 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Why not simply have a ban on names that are unpronouncable, offensive, in bad taste or obviously harmful? For example, feel free to name your kid a weird name like Zuyira or Tascamor or whatever else if you want, but not Zzzz or Titsamor. That would cut down on 99% of this nonsense.

Iceland already does this. They have a naming committee that has issued a list of approved names for newborns. These names have to meet a strict criteria, one of which is that it must sound "Icelandic" to the ear. Stupid names are routinely rejected by the committee and it's led to lawsuits.

There's something to be said for that, but that kind of compulsion would never go over in the US.

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In Germany when you want to give your kid a name, the name get a check. It get a little bit more easy still a lot of names get rejected. Its for the sake of the kid. We also have some kind of name blaming. Its called Kevinism. The name Kevin and similar ones get such a negative reputation because a lot of lower educated people name their parents in a certain way. It increase negative stereotypes on those kids.
There is some research about the imagination behind names, the values and attributes we have with them. To give your kid a "special" name is mostly some kind of backlash of the association with lower education background. Or your parents are famous and name you in another special way. It's easy to do kids, hard to be a responsible parent and rise them.

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Names are a funny thing. As a programmer I have encountered lots of issues with it. It is easy to make all kinds of assumptions. Assumptions that should not be made. For example:

It is easy to assume a name contains at least two letters. But it turns out there are actually people who only have a name existing out of one letter. You might also assume a name is never longer than, for example 50 characters, but it turns out some names are a whole lot longer. One can also assume a name is written using the normal alphabet. But then it turns out some names are to be written using a different writing system.

It is also easy to assume people have a firstname and a lastname. But it turns out this is not the case. Some people only have one name. And you can assume people do have at least a name. But it turns out not everybody has a name. Some people be nameless.

We can discuss how a name ought to be. But not everybody in the world will agree to this.

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Regardless of what power you might grant the state to enforce name protocols, I'm sure this piece of shit mother would have found another way to ruin their child's life in order to gather attention to herself.

You want to give the state power to make meaningful changes? Cut to the chase.

Bitch puts "Abcde" on the birth certificate and the state takes her child, then gives it to someone who's not a fucking idiot.

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RE: Woman furious after Southwest employee mocks daughter's name, 'Abcde'
I think choosing your own name would become one of the hardest decisions in a persons life, DOBA.
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(12-05-2018 08:46 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Regardless of what power you might grant the state to enforce name protocols, I'm sure this piece of shit mother would have found another way to ruin their child's life in order to gather attention to herself.

You want to give the state power to make meaningful changes? Cut to the chase.

Bitch puts "Abcde" on the birth certificate and the state takes her child, then gives it to someone who's not a fucking idiot.

If you really want to cut to the chase, the country should declare single parenting by choice a form of child abuse and not allow single women to raise children alone.

Idiotic names are just the tip of a very ugly iceberg, as we all know. The problems with single motherhood itself and the larger culture it spawns have been gone over so many times there is no need to even get into that here.

But I will add two things.

First people are morons for buying the media's portrayal of "heroic single mothers." Logic tells us that if you can't pick a man or you can't get along with a man, you sure won't be making good decisions for your kid.

Second, whenever you bring this issue up, morons start saying stuff like "My father died (or left the family) when I was eight, and my mother raised us, blah, blah, blah." That's called being a child of a widow or divorcee, not a child of a single mother. There is a major difference in these categories, yet the media lumps all these women together.
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My grandfather's name was Jack; except the Canadian government didn't recognize that name at the time, so on his birth certificate it says John.

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@Days of Broken Arrows

Interesting proposal. definitely agree on the religious part of it. I’ve wondered myself about the subtle effects one’s name has on the course of their life. I think there’s some validity to what you are saying, I do think one’ name has an effect on how other people react to and treat that person. Your example of African American names is makes sense. I’ve met people with stupid ass names and I couldn’t help but make a preconceived judgement based on it. It’s literally a title or “symbol” for a person or their entire identify, and symbols are powerful.

I was thinking the other day about if I ever have kids (jury is still out on that one) what I would name them. For boys I think the masculine names of ancient heros are awesome: David, Alexander, James, Chad (kidding, but seriously we all know how everyone around here views the name “Chad” and what connotations it carries).

I also recently came to the realization that Victor could be a pretty cool name. You would be literally titling your child as a fucking Winner before he can even speak.
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I read somewhere that in the 50's one in every 10 girls had the name Mary. So people used their middle names and nicknames a lot more.
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(12-05-2018 08:38 AM)BadBoyGamer Wrote:  Names are a funny thing. As a programmer I have encountered lots of issues with it. It is easy to make all kinds of assumptions. Assumptions that should not be made. For example:

It is easy to assume a name contains at least two letters. But it turns out there are actually people who only have a name existing out of one letter. You might also assume a name is never longer than, for example 50 characters, but it turns out some names are a whole lot longer. One can also assume a name is written using the normal alphabet. But then it turns out some names are to be written using a different writing system.

It is also easy to assume people have a firstname and a lastname. But it turns out this is not the case. Some people only have one name. And you can assume people do have at least a name. But it turns out not everybody has a name. Some people be nameless.

We can discuss how a name ought to be. But not everybody in the world will agree to this.

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(12-05-2018 08:24 AM)Buck Wild Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 05:58 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Why not simply have a ban on names that are unpronouncable, offensive, in bad taste or obviously harmful? For example, feel free to name your kid a weird name like Zuyira or Tascamor or whatever else if you want, but not Zzzz or Titsamor. That would cut down on 99% of this nonsense.

Iceland already does this. They have a naming committee that has issued a list of approved names for newborns. These names have to meet a strict criteria, one of which is that it must sound "Icelandic" to the ear. Stupid names are routinely rejected by the committee and it's led to lawsuits.

There's something to be said for that, but that kind of compulsion would never go over in the US.

"Approved" names? That seems kinda Big Brother-y to me. And "sounding Icelandic" is very much open to interpretation. I'd rather get a laugh from odd, relatively rare stories like this one that pop up and let the idiots deal with their own problems than let the government decide whether the potential name(s) for my child(ren) are okay by them or not.
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Her LGBT older brother WXYZ must have PTSD from witnessing this microaggression.

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(12-05-2018 09:12 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 08:46 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Regardless of what power you might grant the state to enforce name protocols, I'm sure this piece of shit mother would have found another way to ruin their child's life in order to gather attention to herself.

You want to give the state power to make meaningful changes? Cut to the chase.

Bitch puts "Abcde" on the birth certificate and the state takes her child, then gives it to someone who's not a fucking idiot.

If you really want to cut to the chase, the country should declare single parenting by choice a form of child abuse and not allow single women to raise children alone.

Idiotic names are just the tip of a very ugly iceberg, as we all know. The problems with single motherhood itself and the larger culture it spawns have been gone over so many times there is no need to even get into that here.

But I will add two things.

First people are morons for buying the media's portrayal of "heroic single mothers." Logic tells us that if you can't pick a man or you can't get along with a man, you sure won't be making good decisions for your kid.

Second, whenever you bring this issue up, morons start saying stuff like "My father died (or left the family) when I was eight, and my mother raised us, blah, blah, blah." That's called being a child of a widow or divorcee, not a child of a single mother. There is a major difference in these categories, yet the media lumps all these women together.

What about halfway houses for children with unfortunate names?

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This seems to be the new attention fad where women set themselves up for ridicule then play the victim with the moral high ground. They seriously are children and have no concept of long term thinking, yet we pretend they are adults.
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Is it possible that this idiot woman lives such a sheltered and in-the-bubble life that she thinks there's no more bullying in schools, so she is now free to name her kid whatever she likes and the kid will forever be happy in a non-judgemental environment? I mean, she's still a moron and it's a whole other sphere of retarded lib thinking, but still - is it possible?

(I don't think so, tbh, but who knows - maybe she isn't some deranged attention whore willing to destroy her kid's life for the sake of feeling the frisson of a little self-righteous indignation)

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(12-05-2018 08:31 AM)Parzival Wrote:  In Germany when you want to give your kid a name, the name get a check. It get a little bit more easy still a lot of names get rejected. Its for the sake of the kid.

I bet running that check is pretty easy in Germany nowadays.

"Hey Fritz, can you run a name check on Mohammed, we got another one!"

"Nein problemo Adolf, Mohammed is good to go!"

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(12-05-2018 11:20 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  What about halfway houses for children with unfortunate names?

You have just given Daniel Handler the book-writing-career-reviving idea he needed.
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(12-05-2018 03:06 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 08:31 AM)Parzival Wrote:  In Germany when you want to give your kid a name, the name get a check. It get a little bit more easy still a lot of names get rejected. Its for the sake of the kid.

I bet running that check is pretty easy in Germany nowadays.

"Hey Fritz, can you run a name check on Mohammed, we got another one!"

"Nein problemo Adolf, Mohammed is good to go!"

Aloha!

I thought Adolf was one of Germany's banned child names tho?
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It's Southwest! lighten up!

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(12-05-2018 05:57 PM)moneyshot Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 03:06 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 08:31 AM)Parzival Wrote:  In Germany when you want to give your kid a name, the name get a check. It get a little bit more easy still a lot of names get rejected. Its for the sake of the kid.

I bet running that check is pretty easy in Germany nowadays.

"Hey Fritz, can you run a name check on Mohammed, we got another one!"

"Nein problemo Adolf, Mohammed is good to go!"

Aloha!

I thought Adolf was one of Germany's banned child names tho?

Kona knows that. It was the "moneyshot" of the joke, moneyshot.

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(12-05-2018 06:23 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 05:57 PM)moneyshot Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 03:06 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 08:31 AM)Parzival Wrote:  In Germany when you want to give your kid a name, the name get a check. It get a little bit more easy still a lot of names get rejected. Its for the sake of the kid.

I bet running that check is pretty easy in Germany nowadays.

"Hey Fritz, can you run a name check on Mohammed, we got another one!"

"Nein problemo Adolf, Mohammed is good to go!"

Aloha!

I thought Adolf was one of Germany's banned child names tho?

Kona knows that. It was the "moneyshot" of the joke, moneyshot.

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whoops, wrong shot. I gotchu though.
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It remind me of Johnny Cash.

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And he didn't leave much to Ma and me
Just this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze
Now, I don't blame him 'cause he run and hid
But the meanest thing that he ever did
Was before he left, he went and named me "Sue""

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