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Major Event: Very Important Australian/Global Figure Convicted of Über-Serious Crime
If you're Australian, absolutely steer clear of non-vague comments on this one, especially if you're in-country now. Victoria issued a nationwide suppression order.

I am cautious with these matters and treat them as extraterritorial, so even I won't name names while on the other side of the globe. As I will probably be back in the capital cities of Oz before his next trial in March, I am definitely not going into details.

Nevertheless, non-Australians should consider it a free-for-all to find out who this is and then publish away.

In my opinion, this is by far the most seismic thing to happen in Australia in ALL of 2018. The consequences it will bring both back home and across the world will be nothing short of extraordinary - and deleterious.

If he's being flushed down the crapper, a lot of others are at risk, too, with only flimsy evidence/no evidence required.

This conviction is an absolutely massive game-changer. The evidence appears to be diabolically insufficient, but this figure, who, despite his relative anonymity, was easily one of the most powerful people on the planet, is going down, down, down. Words can't express how bad this is.

Quote:Why the media is unable to report on a case that has generated huge interest online

A very high-profile figure was convicted on Tuesday of a serious crime, but we are unable to report their identity due to a suppression order.

The person, whose case has attracted significant media attention, was convicted on the second attempt, after the jury in an earlier trial was unable to reach a verdict. They will be remanded when they return to court in February for sentencing.

A suppression order issued by the Victorian County Court, which applies in all Australian states and territories, has prevented any publication of the details of the case including the person's name or the charges. It was imposed after the court accepted that knowledge of the person's identity in the first trial might prejudice a further trial being held in March.

It is relatively common in cases where a person faces separate allegations in sequential trials for the first trial to be suppressed. The process is designed not to prejudice later juries.

However, in this case, the word has got out widely online and through social media.

Google searches for the person's name surged on Wednesday, particularly in Victoria. Two of the top three search results on the suppressed name showed websites that were reporting the charges, the verdict and the identity of the person in full.

One of the websites was blocked from viewing by Australian residents, but its content was republished on a number of other sites.

On Wednesday afternoon, the person's name was the subject of thousands of tweets. The tweets both named the individual and the charges and posted links to online sites where the information was available.

A number of readers contacted us asking why we were not reporting this major issue in the public interest. We, like all media organisations, are required by law to adhere to suppression orders and breaching such a suppression order is taken very seriously by the court, and could lead to charges of contempt of court.

Victoria uses more suppression orders than any other jurisdiction in Australia, with the state accounting for more than half of such orders nationally.

The wide dissemination of the suppressed information online, however, highlights the challenges of the suppression regime in some high-profile cases of public interest.

A year-long review of Victoria's 2013 Open Courts Act by retired judge Frank Vincent called into question the function and efficacy of suppression orders in an internet age.

Even if major media organisations were gagged, nothing could prevent a case from being canvassed on social media, blogs and myriad other channels, he said.

A view to the contrary is “most likely to represent wishful thinking than reality'', Justice Vincent found, and a “real world” approach is required.

Despite this, and the principles of transparent justice enshrined in the Open Courts Act, Victorian judges were “troublingly” issuing as many suppression orders as they ever were.

The Vincent report made 18 recommendations, none of which has been implemented by the state government.

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12-12-2018 10:13 AM
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You mean this?

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2018/12/...ual-abuse/

If I ever visit Hot Canada I will probably have been shipped there as a prisoner after the EU World Government re-purposes it back into it's natural role.

There's an interesting twist as well.

The Article Wrote:Pell had been tapped by Pope Francis in 2014 to conduct a serious reform of Vatican finances, but met with increasing resistance as he began discovering large sums of money that had not been recorded in financial statements: 94 million euros in the Secretariat for State, later followed by nearly 1 billion euros in various other departments.
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(12-12-2018 10:13 AM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  In my opinion, this is by far the most seismic thing to happen in Australia in ALL of 2018. The consequences it will bring both back home and across the world will be nothing short of extraordinary - and deleterious.

Why?

Quote:but this figure, who, despite his relative anonymity, was easily one of the most powerful people on the planet

Why?

Quote:Words can't express how bad this is.

Why?
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(12-12-2018 10:24 AM)Malone Wrote:  
The Article Wrote:Pell had been tapped by Pope Francis in 2014 to conduct a serious reform of Vatican finances, but met with increasing resistance as he began discovering large sums of money that had not been recorded in financial statements: 94 million euros in the Secretariat for State, later followed by nearly 1 billion euros in various other departments.


Yaaaaaaawn.

"God's banker" Roberto Calvi discovered the exact same thing back in the late 1970s and was "suicided" after trying to flee, or break the story to the press. They found him hanging by a rope round his neck under a bridge in London in 1982. Pope John Paul I who had "hired" Calvi to do the vatican banking audit was "suicided" a few years earlier in 1978 after only 33 days being elected as pope. One of the shortest papal reigns in the whole history of the church.
The movie Godfather III was mostly based on this whole story.


Nothing new here.
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^There's a special place in mediocrity hell for those who greet stories by saying "meh, nothing new here" because something similar or related happened in the past. Dude, it doesn't make you sound cool or above it all.

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Can a non-Australian who is not subject to the gag order give a clearer explanation of this story? The OP is completely cryptic about this game changing story about one of the most powerful people in the world.

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OP is being overly dramatic about the gag order. No member of the Australian public will be prosecuted for naming George Pell. The Breitbart article linked above tells the story, the theory that he is a whistleblower for massive corruption in the Catholic Church is a reasonable one but we lack evidence.

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Am I the only one that laughs each time I read "Pell had been tapped by Pope Francis"...?

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OP must have a freelance job for the English tabloids. 9/10 for that sensationalism.
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(12-12-2018 11:48 AM)RawGod Wrote:  OP is being overly dramatic about the gag order. No member of the Australian public will be prosecuted for naming George Pell.

^^^

I simply gave people food for thought. We have no idea, in this PC/SJW world of ours, as to how some things will wind up.

Do you think Count Dankula even once anticipated a criminal conviction for his pet pug Hitler joke?

People are being deplatformed all over the place, stripped of their livelihoods, even mobbed and assaulted for their political positions - you think it's not conceivable that someone could be prosecuted for breaching a suppression order, technicality or not, when the comments come from a "white supremacist", "pro-rape", pro-patriarchy (no inverted commas for this description because it's true) forum like this one?

Yes, I used deliberately alarmist, over-the-top language, in order to make Australian forum members consider potential, albeit unlikely consequences.

Everything on this forum is permanent, remember.

Victoria is a state where if you hold a (conservative) event, you are the one who has to pay police costs ($50,000+) when the antifa crazies come and physically attack you, including with projectiles and weapons. It is also the state where gang attacks featuring 15-30 Sudanese thugs won't attract arrests because the authorities are scared of offending Africans by applying the law. I would not at all be surprised to see a zealous court or prosecutor go after someone who casually talks about the contents of a suppressed court case, especially if they are a mere iota to the right of Daniel Andrews.

Let's not forget that only a few months ago, an entire plane over Europe was diverted because the namesake of this forum is a "legal rape" advocate according to the British government. What did they think he was going to do during a layover? Storm past the customs checkpoints whilst yelling in a Hulk-voice, "Roosh want women now!"? The only examples of overly dramatic behavior and rhetoric emanate from our opponents and the state authorities kowtowing to them.

We live in bizarre times and I prefaced the discussion appropriately.

For instance, Yahoo News and a junior journalist were dragged across the coals last year for breaching a suppression order, with Yahoo having control over, what, only 0.1% of online Australian news? They received a $300k fine and the company was convicted as a legal personality.

Even if it's unlikely to be prosecuted, it is nevertheless a breach of the suppression order for Australians to name the person I haven't named online.

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(12-12-2018 01:02 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  OP must have a freelance job for the English tabloids. 9/10 for that sensationalism.




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(12-12-2018 01:04 PM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  Yes, I used deliberately alarmist, over-the-top language, in order to make Australian forum members consider potential, albeit unlikely consequences.

Everything on this forum is permanent, remember.

If you're not paranoid, you're not paying attention.

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Note that both the Australian Police and the Australian Court System has been long said to be under the control of Billionaire Sheldon Adelson, Trump's main backer. Since as far back as 2014, he was said to be leading the Neo-cons to oust Assad in Syria, (meaning, as the unholy Zionist / Neo-con alliance predictably does, kill all the Catholics in a country (1), then Islamify it), I've been commenting to people quietly for about six months now that it's inevitable that Trump will allow the persecution of the Catholic Church.

Part of this was the quiet Regime Change of our leadership a few months back, now happening in France and the UK. An acquaintance of mine was high up in the Liberal Party, and was looking to jump ship to any other feasible right wing party earlier in the year. I said to just wait, and, when it is decided who is going to be the new American puppet, it will 'organically' happen, and you'll know it's happened when he starts parroting how Israel is our greatest ally.

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He contacted me a couple of weeks ago and said "How did you know?"

Within the Church itself, the Priests will say the research into the abuse crisis shows it is not a Pedo Priest problem but a Homosexual Priest Problem, since the vast majority of cases are Adult Men having sex with Teenage Boys, which, of course, the Media won't report. There are interviews on record by the American Government back in the Commie Hunting Days where Socialists confirmed part of their plan to destroy the Catholic Church was seeding the seminaries with as many homosexual men as possible - books are available on the subject - which is why my local priests say that, whilst Same Sex Attracted Men who don't act upon those instincts, can be in the church, since they are Children of God and have inherent Human Dignity, the trials that go with that - the disordered objectification of sexual partners and predatory behaviour mistaken as affection - means they should never be allowed to be Priests due to the temptations that abuse of power involves.

Note that, in Classic Satanic Fashion, both of these concepts - objectification and accusations of Pedo Attraction - are used against Heterosexual men by the Demonically-Obsessed Feminists, whilst a Subjective Truth has to be offered up to sell the lie that Homosexual Men don't do that and are the best caregivers for children, despite their 'healthy' relationships involving calling each other 'Daddy' and 'Son'. (Note Milo's rhetoric about 'Daddy Trump', and being thrown under the bus by the Leftist Media for parroting the belief shared by every gay men I've ever met that the predatory abuse they suffered during child or young adulthood wasn't abuse as such, but - subjective reality - was a form of care-based bonding / initiation, and are quite happy to tell you this if they think you are non-judgmental).

Remember: the observable pattern of behaviour is that the diabolically-controlled will accuse the other of its own sins, and The Narrative must protect Evil and destroy Good.

Unfortunately, what is being offered up as currently being Right is as Satanic as the Left, so, knuckle down, the persecution is only going to get worse, which is why I expect all right wing media - which tends to be skeptical of Israel - to eventually be silenced under Trump, who keeps pointing us at Fox News, despite Murdoch being a Zionist, and his media arm in Australia selling nothing but Leftist Cant. As such, I don't expect to have an online voice for much longer, and am not really worried by losing it, since Detachment from the World is a necessary part of purification.

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Well, well. I saw this one pop up in the Daily Beast but I'd thought it was bullshit fake news, since details about the allegations have been reported on by the media for months. But now we've got the Sydney Morning Herald publishing the same thing, so, despite MSM being dumb, I'm prepared to actually believe it for once.

The only note I would make is this: most likely the guy would have applied for the suppression order himself, for obvious reasons that the SMH article points out.

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Op was talking anti-semitism yadda yadda yadda Zionist talking points in another thread.

Not surprised by the hyperbole here. No one hates Roman Catholics more than the chosen ones. Millenia old grudge.

The Catholic Church is pretty corrupted and fucked at the moment but the implication that they are this all powerful force pulling the strings as opposed to Zionism is laughable.
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For the Australians among us, the media suppression order serves as a test cast showing the control and reach that the Australian government has in preventing its citizens from hearing about something.

You can use this to help you learn which sources of information are still available to you in case there are other media suppression orders in the future.

At least that's assuming its just the Australian government doing it and not a global suppression.
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^ Forgot to mention: I believe the setup for the final destruction of the Catholic Church in Australia as a Catholic - not Reform Judaism / Sabbatean-Frankist - Construct will be the 2020 Plenary Council. All other Churches have, effectively, fallen to Sabbatean-Frankist Heresy: you know them by their fruits.

The 2020 Plenary Council is about involving the Laity in deciding the future of the Church. The point of Catholicism, as opposed to the Heretical Schisms that have already fallen, is that belief and direction is supposed to flow from a clear line of Successive Authority of Agreed Leadership that dictates Theology: agreed belief have to resonate with the infused knowledge of the Holy Spirit, which is something those in a State of Grace know, rather than figure out.

This way Reason - what you instinctively 'know' - which is immune from the Demonic - takes precedent over Emotion - what you 'feel' - which is susceptible to Demonic Influence. Any kind of weakness that causes longing in the Sensible Faculties is what is known as Concupiscence, which can only exist contrary to Reason.

Due to the Fall and Original Sin, left to our own devices, without Grace and the Holy Spirit, we will always instinctively choose what is wrong over what is right.

Do you see how Theology is starting to fill in the gaps of all the Sociological Observations I've made over the last few years? when I theorized about the Degenerate Triad back in 2014, I said it was Symbolic / Emotional / Irrational thought, guaranteed a Fascist Mindset. Concupiscence explains this: Emotion guarantees Irrational thought, guaranteeing a Satanic Subjective Morality, rather than the firm, guiding light of Objective Morality.

As the Sabbatean-Frankists have made their final play to fully-claim culture over this decade, have you noticed how hyper-emotional everyone is acting, (including our elected 'alpha' leaders)? It's design, not co-incidence.

This explains the danger of the Plenary Council: the Laity, who exist in various states of imperfection - are supposed to be guided, not guide, otherwise Concupiscence guarantees they will choose what is Easy (conforming to the world), rather than what is Hard (either holding fast or returning to tradition). The Church Authority agreeing to this overturns the Succession of Authority dictated by the Natural Law, which means, it becomes outside of God's protection, and the Satanic can enter and influence.

As such, the Church is throwing open the doors to Subversion, which means, predictably, that the advertising for the council on their own websites reeks of GloboHomo, where White Men are removed from the picture entirely, and White Girls get to feel all warm and squishy about being seen as the holy saviours of diversity.

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Note how the Propaganda - and it is propaganda - uses what I've termed before as the Apple Aspirational style to sell a false, heightened-reality, which, trying it back to Theology, means presenting a Subjective, not Objective Truth.

As such, this has predictable appeal to Busybody Women who are incapable of the Humility Jesus teaches them to practice, at threat of damnation, thinking he can't possibly mean them, because, well, everyone else should humble themselves before what they FEEL to be the truth, because they're not Unprofitable Servants, but the Holiest in their Church.

So, I did some image searching, expecting a sea of predictable Subversive Hair ('the Merkel') and disordered bodies, seeing if I could guess the intention from, well, outward signs of the demonic. Doing this I discovered that the Catholic Websites in Australia seem just are just as strictly-controlled as anywhere else, and most times, comments aren't allowed.

So, I'd see a picture like this:

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...think "Hair above the chin, subversion from within", mentally-note the disordered presentation (obesity suggesting an inability to control concupiscence when it comes to food, and the chicken wing arm selling a false reality that she has a waist), and then see if the interview was what I'm learning to think of as 'Hyper-Sanctimonious Feel-Vomit', where she feels she knows better than a 2000 year old Patriarchal Institution.

There were many examples of this kind of thing, but I'll single this woman out, because, it turns out, she is the Facilitator of the Plenary Council in Australia. Remember what I said about busy-body women?

I'll throw up some extracts:

Quote:LANA Turvey-Collins does not shrink from the challenge of leading a high-stakes national conversation about the future of the Catholic Church in Australia.

A woman leading anything but her children is in direct opposition to the natural law and Jesus' teaching on humility. She's not in a State of Grace, therefore, she is outside God's Protection, and anything she teaches is corruptible by the Demonic.

Quote:she is leading a three-year “transformative journey” with the cultural reform of the Church on the table.

A digression to explain where this is about to go:

About five months ago, I woke up in the middle of the night with infused knowledge, and, over the next few days, scribbled out a theological map of how the universe functions in a series of predictable polarities. I didn't share it with anyone because, well, it will sound crazy to anyone who is of the world, and it seemed contrary to humility to share it, so I want to make clear this knowledge was delivered to me, and not from me, but I do want to point out one very telling polarity I noted.

I'll give you slight context. Think of this construct as a stream flowing from Right, with to Left. If you don't constantly-swim against the current - actively fight - you will be pulled to the Left due to Original Sin.

There are three States (Opposition to the Law, Neutrality, Concordance to the Law), and in using the word Neutrality I'm probably poorly-trying to describe a mid-point that I'd suggest doesn't exist, because there is no true neutrality in this battle. Think of it more as the point most swimmers are tossed into the stream, bar those in Scripture who are free of Original Sin, such as the Blessed Mother.

Opposition to the Law <--- Neutrality <--- Concordance to the Law

Expanding that, as you are drawn downstream you go through three predictable and observable stages from Neutrality, being: Party, Pervert, Pathetic, being the collecting pool / fetid swamp the stream terminates in.

Let me fill it in:

Opposition to the Law <-- Pathetic <-- Pervert <-- Party <--Neutrality <-- Concordance to the Law.

Between Concordance and Neutrality, the Saints have marked out the stages of Purgative, Illuminative and Unitive, Unitive being the source, the living spring.

Opposition to the Law / Pathetic <-- Pervert <-- Party <--Neutrality <-- Purgative <-- Illuminative <-- Unitive / Concordance to the Law.

You can only swim upstream by the choice of your free will and self-abnegation. Yes, your free will can also take you downstream, but the current carries you down there whether you consent or not, particularly if you pretend there's no stream and no current, and make a habit of feeding the concupiscible appetites. If you share in the 'Yes' of Perfect Consent - 'be it done unto me according to they word', what is known as Mary's Fiat, for she never disobeyed his will - you end up deeply-united to the God in the Living Spring.

Most of us can only swim upstream so far in our lives due to our attachments, so purification via fire in purgatory takes us the rest of the way. If you want to get further during your own life, but it seems impossible to swim, St Therese of Liseux has many beautiful writings on accepting your littleness and humility, which, applying it to my metaphor, means you place perfect trust in Jesus to bring you upstream rather than trying to swim there yourself. This isn't Protestantism or Quietism, it involves the 'Yes' of Perfect Consent in infusing every tiny action of your day with Love, but it's achievable by everyone.

The further downstream you are, you see Truth more Subjectively - in an emotional and false manner - and the further upstream you are, you see Truth more Objectively - via reason and infused knowledge.

Note that this doesn't mean where you believe you are on the Political Spectrum as being an effective judge of your moral state. The most common tell of believing in Subjective Truth I've noticed is someone stating that they believe that they're 'a Good Person'.

I was talking to an old woman from Church the other week who told me that I was more 'Saintly' than her. My reply was to laugh: "How can you say that? You see me at Confession almost every day."

She looked down her glasses at me and touched my hand. "Ah, but you haven't heard what I confess, Dear."

My point being, as you swim upstream, you realistically understand via reason your innately-corrupted nature, so you can't deny it, or present a false image of your holiness. This is why Jesus says, 'even the just man falls seven times a day'.

As such, certain presented, observable behaviours in others clearly spells out where those around you are in the stream, allowing you to make more theologically reliable judgments of who or what you're dealing with based on reason, since emotion will lie.

As such, predictable polarities come into play: the further downstream you are, you'll believe a subjective falsehood, whilst upstream, you'll only believe objective truth, and I suspect all of these could clearly be mapped out. My sketch lists about 40 of them so far until I put it aside out of the fear of presumption or arrogance.

I'll give you an example of this in practice:

The other day, I was challenged on her about someone mocking Christianity, his construct being Ned Flanders - so his idea of Christians was shaped by the (((media))), and could see the answers to what he was asking was something he was unprepared to accept: the necessity of bearing your cross, and choosing the hard action over the easy one. I knew he was incapable of hearing a hard truth, given his video game addiction, which feeds concupiscence, guaranteeing feminine reactions to stimulus. This is why his writing is so often inflammatory and mock-masculine, calling to action, when it's really just an impotent cry of someone powerless, but he can't help but respond that way, because feeding the Concupiscible appetites gives the Demonic control over the Irascible Appetites, anger being one of them. He can't help but get triggered, because training the pleasure centers to be rewarded by laziness and false accomplishment can only result in this.

I've noticed since I gave up video games four years ago, I've gradually gotten greater and greater control over my anger, though I still have my moments of irritation.

I could also see he Satanically Inverted the thread - as above, labeling the Good with the Sins of the Evil - meaning, the thread became about how the Satanists actively destroying society weren't the real threat, Christians were.

Being able to sum up someone like that - to place them clearly in the stream - means I can see a lengthy response would have been a waste of my time. It's not being uncharitable, there are limits to who you're supposed to preach to.

Yesterday, I read him complaining about wanting a leader who would tell the country they'd have to do it hard to survive, so, without knowing it, expecting a society he thinks would be better off with Christianity to do the Hard Thing of Bearing A Cross, which always sounds like insanity to anyone of the world.

He's bearing two contradictory beliefs without seeing the hypocrisy = subjective truth = far downstream. Emotional / Irrational / Symbolic therefore Fascist, therefore "It is morally righteous to kill your enemies". His subjective reality is he's on the Right, but he's objectively no-different in thought from the Left.

If things get hard, guys need to be able to know who they can rely on, meaning, emotional thought is a liability, and these sort of men aren't reliable or trustworthy.

Why I brought all that up:

Note this woman speaking of 'cultural reform'. Two of the Downstream / Upstream Polarities I noticed was Progress / Tradition, and Transitory / Eternal. You've noticed how the Left talks of the need for society to change to 'advance', usually presented via Inversion as being Moral Advancement, which only ever means 'retreat from the natural law into guaranteed societal dysfunction'.

Whilst this was knowledge I knew via reason in the moment, I don't always understand it right away. I find I can always identify if it's Objective Truth or not by what I consider subtle reinforcements, where the subject comes up again via little observable patterns in my surroundings, conversations, or readings. This is why I respond to the writing of St Ignatius of Loyola, who obviously had a similar brain, and could map out the patterns.

As I've gotten deeper into Theology, certain concepts about the Divine Nature have become clearer, and I recently-understood God is Eternal and Unchanging. I do the Divine Office Readings each day, and, following that pattern, these ideas were reinforced over the last couple of mornings.

Everything up to Jesus is prophecy, Jesus himself fulfills the promise and dictates eternal truth. With the book of Apocalypse, public - though not private - divine revelation ends, and nothing can ever contradict established truth. There is no need for change.

Societal change itself therefore can only exist for the interests of Demonic Subversion.

This is why this woman is so dangerous, with her talk of Cultural Reform. I severely-doubt she means go back to the Latin Mass and the 40 Day Fasts of Lent and 24 Day Fast of Advent. Man, old school Catholics were hardcore. Reform, by it's nature, is to destroy the established law.

Quote:A Queenslander, with strong academic credentials and with her own life-changing experiences in Africa, Mrs Turvey-Collins acknowledges the robust public debate the plenary will generate, and its ground-breaking potential.

(((Academic credentials))).

'In Africa' = Brown People Saviour.

Huh, I wonder what kind of change she wants.

Quote:“Women’s role in leadership in the Church is something personally relevant,” she said.

So, Reform Judaism.

Quote:“I am a 39-year-old woman and if my husband and I have kids, I want our daughters to have a place in Church.

...I'm a 39-year-old woman...
...If My husband and I have kids...

See the Subjective Reality?

Quote:“There is already so much great leadership going on and women every day in all sorts of places – lay women, religious women, Catholic teachers, nurses, doctors, scientists and theologians.

i.e., women who are disobeying the Natural Law and the prescriptions of Humility.

Quote:The last plenary council, held in 1937, was an exclusively male gathering, with only bishops, theologians and superiors of male religious orders attending.

Note the implication that's a bad thing.

Quote:a richly diverse community

Reform Judaism.

Of course, she went to Africa, as these women worship the victimhood of brown skin.

Quote:“It was the first place I had ever experienced being in the minority,” she said.

Christians aren't supposed to care about being in the minority, because we understand most of the majority is of the world. But the undercurrent here is, of course, Reform Judaism.

Whilst I attend a Latin Mass, note that it was driven out of the Cathedral here by these types of busy-body facilitator woman. Why? Because the Latin Mass is lead by men only, and they just love to get up and have everyone pay attention to them by doing the readings, and they just couldn't abide being told to sit down, cover their head with a veil, and shut up and worship God.

Note that I've long decided if I'm ever asked to deliver readings, I'll politely-decline and stay humble in my seat.

I'm calling it now: 2020, the Catholic Church in Australia will be killed and worn as a skin-suit.

I've got to duck out. I'll write about the Latin Mass in a couple of hours.
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No surprise if their previously subversive yet shadowy plans to undermine Christian churches now become more overt.
Yet last time I checked. There was no reference to the Catholic church or the Baptist church or the Morman church or any other church in the Bible.

If sheep want to follow sinister folk. That would not surprise me either. The default mode of Homo-Sapiens is that of the sheep / serf / slave.

All the while, if a supposed Christian needs more than Christ & needs some human church to "feel" right. Well, they're doing it wrong.
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Can we get this translated into American?
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(12-14-2018 12:28 AM)wi30 Wrote:  Can we get this translated into American?

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