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Pattern of bad interactions with Anglo girls- wondering the reasons?
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RE: Pattern of bad interactions with Anglo girls- wondering the reasons?
(04-09-2019 10:32 AM)Bogart Wrote:  The game we practice, hone and teach is something of a relic from a pre 2010s anglosphere. I think without fame or truly impressive SMV (9+ looks) you just can’t expect to tag really quality (7+) Anglo women through cold approach reliably.

This sums up the thread nicely.

What we're witnessing in the Anglosphere is weakening demand for the bottom 70-80% of men as women gain financial independence, being a mother/wife is no longer seen as a woman's primary duty, social norms shift so that being single/divorced or sleeping around no longer carry any stigma etc. Coupled with easy access to sex even with guys above their own level, it shouldn't surprise anyone that 6.5+ Anglo gals are becoming increasingly harder to reach consistently for the average dude.

That said, social circle can definitely help you punch well above your weight from what I've seen, so I guess we just have to shift how we operate...

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04-30-2019 01:20 PM
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RE: Pattern of bad interactions with Anglo girls- wondering the reasons?
^^ Weakening demand for bottom 70-80% of men as sexual no commitment options. NOT relationships.
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RE: Pattern of bad interactions with Anglo girls- wondering the reasons?
(04-30-2019 12:42 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  Unbelievable how deluded people are. You paint white women as unfuckable devils.

Really, not nearly as difficult as you guys make it out to be.

Step 1: be attractive
Step 2: don’t be unattractive

Step 3: have balls

By the logic of everything said in this thread, you need to be 6’4”, 240lbs at 6% bodyfit with an 8 figure bankroll, modeling gig, and a 10/10 girl underneath each arm just to not get blown out by a 6/10 white girl upon approaching.

LOL

Well, what if the OP is fucking up by not meeting the mimimum looks bar that most Anglo - and Western women, for that matter - place on men before they would fuck them? If the OP is a short, scrawny dude running daygame on 7+ hotties, then it's no wonder blowouts are pretty much the only thing he's getting for his trouble. In the past, simply having the balls to roll up to a chick in broad daylight without any alcohol and putting your cards on the table would have won you enough kudos and moistened many a panty enough to get your foot in the door; post the Smartphone hypergamy-on-stilts era, you now need to also be visibly her "type", i.e. well-built and decent facial aesthetics, from the offing to get a similar hearing. And even if you tick these boxes, they might still flake on you.

Game isn't only about looks, but looks have definitely become more important in the last 5 years, I have no doubt about that. I don't want to be the harbinger of doom here, but rather than Anglo women themselves, the problem could well lie completely with the OP, at least as far as him being a casualty of the increased competitiveness of the SMP in the Anglosphere in recent years; this increased competiveness is squeezing the less-than-physically well-endowed guys who formerly could have carved out a niche for themselves running cold approaches out of the market.

A pronouncedly black pill view, I know and a view I am also loathe to embrace, since I believe in the fundamental ethos behind Game being much more than just looks maxing, but it does appear to have truth heavily on its side with every passing day.
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RE: Pattern of bad interactions with Anglo girls- wondering the reasons?
(04-30-2019 02:08 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  ^^ Weakening demand for bottom 70-80% of men as sexual no commitment options. NOT relationships.

I don't have hard data to back this up, but my impression is that the general attitude of these women carries over into relationships as well, not just casual sex. I could be wrong though.

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04-30-2019 03:48 PM
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RE: Pattern of bad interactions with Anglo girls- wondering the reasons?
(04-30-2019 03:16 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 12:42 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  Unbelievable how deluded people are. You paint white women as unfuckable devils.

Really, not nearly as difficult as you guys make it out to be.

Step 1: be attractive
Step 2: don’t be unattractive

Step 3: have balls

By the logic of everything said in this thread, you need to be 6’4”, 240lbs at 6% bodyfit with an 8 figure bankroll, modeling gig, and a 10/10 girl underneath each arm just to not get blown out by a 6/10 white girl upon approaching.

LOL

Well, what if the OP is fucking up by not meeting the mimimum looks bar that most Anglo - and Western women, for that matter - place on men before they would fuck them? If the OP is a short, scrawny dude running daygame on 7+ hotties, then it's no wonder blowouts are pretty much the only thing he's getting for his trouble. In the past, simply having the balls to roll up to a chick in broad daylight without any alcohol and putting your cards on the table would have won you enough kudos and moistened many a panty enough to get your foot in the door; post the Smartphone hypergamy-on-stilts era, you now need to also be visibly her "type", i.e. well-built and decent facial aesthetics, from the offing to get a similar hearing. And even if you tick these boxes, they might still flake on you.

Game isn't only about looks, but looks have definitely become more important in the last 5 years, I have no doubt about that. I don't want to be the harbinger of doom here, but rather than Anglo women themselves, the problem could well lie completely with the OP, at least as far as him being a casualty of the increased competitiveness of the SMP in the Anglosphere in recent years; this increased competiveness is squeezing the less-than-physically well-endowed guys who formerly could have carved out a niche for themselves running cold approaches out of the market.

A pronouncedly black pill view, I know and a view I am also loathe to embrace, since I believe in the fundamental ethos behind Game being much more than just looks maxing, but it does appear to have truth heavily on its side with every passing day.

Game may not be dying, rather men may just be getting shut out more due to pre-screening...:

Random guy approaches her, even if decently attractive... Creepy.
She's into a guy... what does she do? Fire up instagram or facebook to see if he's of sufficient value to her.
She needs a guy. No she's not going to go to the bar and wait to be hit on... Rather, she's going to get on Bumble and have men falling over themselves to get her, or hit up one of her orbiters on insta.

In many ways, modern society is killing spontaneity and that element of risktaking or being in the moment. Consider for a moment, going to a concert. Every idiot there, especially girls, are videoing to put on insta, snap, etc. The ironic thing is that they're forcing otherwise natural moments, and as a result, not living in the moment. As far as women are concerned, since they are heavily emotionally driven, that hurts us men. We can't approach because it's creepy. We can't talk to her because our insta isn't good enough, or we never bothered to get one. We don't needlessly post on it, so she has no idea of our value, etc.

Women (and men for that matter) are becoming extremely risk averse. Owen Benjamin calls millennials "housecats", and I think that characterization is correct. Risk averse, anxious, home-bound, introverted, lazy, all about maximizing comfort. How fucking dangerous is it to be a woman right now? Answer: it is the least dangerous it ever has been in history. Yet, despite this verifiable fact Anglo girls are insufferable. "Muh rape culture", muh feminism, muh leftism, fragile egos, anxiety, narcissism and I could go on. We don't even socialize women properly anymore in the West.

One of the more recent dates I went on in Central/ Eastern Europe, the girl completely defied the stereotypes of housebound millenial women. Funny, flirty, feminine, intelligent, and not glued to the phone. Ever since getting back to the US I've been in a rut... It's hard to find a girl like that here.
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RE: Pattern of bad interactions with Anglo girls- wondering the reasons?
If I worried about my pattern of bad interactions with Anglo women, I'd be in the loony bin. Dealing with white women born in the United States and currently living in that nation tests anyone's mettle. I'd like to completely opt out of white American women, but it's still easiest to meet them. I'm in a major U.S. city. I still tend to run into more white women than any other race/ethnicity of women.
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RE: Pattern of bad interactions with Anglo girls- wondering the reasons?
Let’s talk about the men. Many of the men are no prize either. Out of shape, poor, fat, male feminists, without a life or interests, that can barely string a sentence together. If I were a woman, I wouldn’t waste my time with them either.

It is a tight sexual market and you have to up your game to succeed.

I had some luck genetically with my appearance. Between 16-22 I only banged 1 hot girl and bunch of nasty girls that I would like to forget. From 23-26 I focused on self improvement and was in a LTR and started cheating on the LTR. Got seriously into improving my game at 25ish. With 10 years of hard work at game and self improvement, getting laid has become quite easy. Especially with girls in the 20-24 range.

Having confidence and getting blown out of the water is part of the fun. Do any of you watch cringe comedy?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cringe_comedy

Next time some thot tries to blow you out of the water up the cringe. Up the direct game; call her out on her bitchiness; attack her stupid liberal feminist beliefs; don’t swear; don’t be mean; who cares if she thinks that you are creep? Just demonstrate your maturity and intellect. This usually ends a few ways: 1. Bitch storms out. 2. Bitch tries to tell you to leave (don’t - she will and she is testing you). 3. White knight tries to intervene- be cool and calm and buy the guy a drink- introduce him to another woman you chatted with. 4. She sees your strength and bangs you. The key is here is to act presidential through the whole fucked up interaction. I have had it end with apologies and introductions to their friends. The key is not to be rude, laugh and continue to fuck with her. For her, it is all one giant shit test.


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RE: Pattern of bad interactions with Anglo girls- wondering the reasons?
(04-30-2019 08:51 PM)spydersuit Wrote:  Let’s talk about the men. Many of the men are no prize either. Out of shape, poor, fat, male feminists, without a life or interests, that can barely string a sentence together. If I were a woman, I wouldn’t waste my time with them either.

It is a tight sexual market and you have to up your game to succeed.

I had some luck genetically with my appearance. Between 16-22 I only banged 1 hot girl and bunch of nasty girls that I would like to forget. From 23-26 I focused on self improvement and was in a LTR and started cheating on the LTR. Got seriously into improving my game at 25ish. With 10 years of hard work at game and self improvement, getting laid has become quite easy. Especially with girls in the 20-24 range.

Having confidence and getting blown out of the water is part of the fun. Do any of you watch cringe comedy?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cringe_comedy

Next time some thot tries to blow you out of the water up the cringe. Up the direct game; call her out on her bitchiness; attack her stupid liberal feminist beliefs; don’t swear; don’t be mean; who cares if she thinks that you are creep? Just demonstrate your maturity and intellect. This usually ends a few ways: 1. Bitch storms out. 2. Bitch tries to tell you to leave (don’t - she will and she is testing you). 3. White knight tries to intervene- be cool and calm and buy the guy a drink- introduce him to another woman you chatted with. 4. She sees your strength and bangs you. The key is here is to act presidential through the whole fucked up interaction. I have had it end with apologies and introductions to their friends. The key is not to be rude, laugh and continue to fuck with her. For her, it is all one giant shit test.


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Just curious what is the idea behind this? This routine sounds like it may be the high caliber firepower I want but don't deserve. True Psyop material. Banana
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RE: Pattern of bad interactions with Anglo girls- wondering the reasons?
(04-08-2019 07:47 AM)JekyllAndHyde Wrote:  I don't know about everyone else but I am glad I am not the only one who is getting tired of hearing the accent of local Aussie girls regardless of ethnicity.

Sadly its not just their accent thats masculine and unattractive.

Its also their attitude, the swearing, the way they dress, act and think if all very masculine and unattractive, in general.

Its better with the older ones, but the young ones are more masculine than most of the men in Europe to be honest.
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RE: Pattern of bad interactions with Anglo girls- wondering the reasons?
I don’t know if I had any idea behind it when I started trying it. I didn’t want to back down and I realized that if you try to honestly engage with people they can only fling shit at you for so long. By not stooping to their level, they realize how stupid and awful they look in public. Sort of like how you train kids to behave properly. If you calmly ask questions and follow-up with facts and more questions. They eventually feel bad or uncomfortable, and apologize or leave. If you act like a man that anybody can love and respect, then you are that man. I have to be in the right mood and this takes a lot of time. That is the downside. It only works well when you don’t have many other good prospects anyways, or your pipeline is full.
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