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This thread reminded me of this article: http://www.returnofkings.com/111350/are-...-for-women
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RE: Men are dropping out of society and embracing NEETdom.
(12-19-2018 03:56 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  Good!
It will hasten the inevitable collapse, and that hopefully will be followed an American renaissance.

I can't wait!

The left and progressives can go pound sand.

Tom Leykis / Leykis 101:

-Never do what you don't want to do. You make the money, you decide where you are going and what you are doing.
-Don't ask a woman what she wants to do.
-Never get involved with a co-worker unless you don't mind losing your job over it.
-Never spend more than $40 on a date. If possible, let her pay for everything or 50/50.
-If she doesn't bang you by the third date, Dump That Bitch (DTB).
-No spooning, cuddling, hugging, or staying over. Get in, get out!
-Never be in a committed relationship UNTIL you are 25+ or really ready to settle down.
-Men age like fine wine, women age like milk.
06-01-2019 10:28 PM
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RE: Men are dropping out of society and embracing NEETdom.
How is anything "rigged" in the U.S.? If an average man were to try his best and hope for the best, the U.S. would be the most likely place for him to succeed. Way too many rags to riches stories out there. Sure, a bit of luck is involved, but the truth is, the more times you try, the greater the chance you may end up having luck work in your favor.

College is pretty much a waste anyways unless you're doing STEM or something finance related. Most people have no business being in college. Getting a job in the trades is a much better deal, especially for those guys who can't afford a college education, or can't get admitted into a good program. Plumbers, electricians, construction workers, these guys make GOOD fucking money. I'm around these guys all the time working in the oil/gas industry and it wouldn't surprise me if they pulled in more than me, and I'm an electrical engineering consultant.

Has nothing to do with looks either, I've seen some ugly, UGLY motherfuckers working in my industry pulling in six figures or higher, and they're pretty much always married. Granted their wives probably aren't stunners, but they're happily married with kids.

Guys these days are just spoiled and entitled, they don't know the fucking meaning of struggle. I honestly wished I could struggle more because I think that's what men were created for, but we don't have a war, we don't have any grandiose purpose to give our lives meaning.

I wasn't raised wealthy either, I know the meaning of struggle, to graduate with $188k of student loans on my head, working a tough job just to cover the $50k a year interest payment on those loans. I've endured that pain for a long time, and it pisses me off when people who have no such burden complain that things are rigged. The willingness to delay gratification is just gone, and I'm willing to bet a lot of it, a LOT of it, is because of porn/social media. Instant gratification, instant sympathy from other people in their situation.
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What is a neet
06-01-2019 11:37 PM
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(06-01-2019 10:34 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  Guys these days are just spoiled and entitled, they don't know the fucking meaning of struggle. I honestly wished I could struggle more because I think that's what men were created for, but we don't have a war, we don't have any grandiose purpose to give our lives meaning.

There is plenty of that these days from both genders and though there is an agenda against men and family thanks to the progressives and feminists. We as men need to grow a pair the size of Trump and just push on through and roll with the punches to ultimately achieve our goals. F-the-haterz! Whip

Tom Leykis / Leykis 101:

-Never do what you don't want to do. You make the money, you decide where you are going and what you are doing.
-Don't ask a woman what she wants to do.
-Never get involved with a co-worker unless you don't mind losing your job over it.
-Never spend more than $40 on a date. If possible, let her pay for everything or 50/50.
-If she doesn't bang you by the third date, Dump That Bitch (DTB).
-No spooning, cuddling, hugging, or staying over. Get in, get out!
-Never be in a committed relationship UNTIL you are 25+ or really ready to settle down.
-Men age like fine wine, women age like milk.
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RE: Men are dropping out of society and embracing NEETdom.
(06-01-2019 11:37 PM)highroller Wrote:  What is a neet

Someone who is Not in Education, Employment or Training.

Orthorexia Kills.
06-02-2019 07:33 AM
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(06-01-2019 10:34 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  How is anything "rigged" in the U.S.? If an average man were to try his best and hope for the best, the U.S. would be the most likely place for him to succeed. Way too many rags to riches stories out there. Sure, a bit of luck is involved, but the truth is, the more times you try, the greater the chance you may end up having luck work in your favor.

College is pretty much a waste anyways unless you're doing STEM or something finance related. Most people have no business being in college. Getting a job in the trades is a much better deal, especially for those guys who can't afford a college education, or can't get admitted into a good program. Plumbers, electricians, construction workers, these guys make GOOD fucking money. I'm around these guys all the time working in the oil/gas industry and it wouldn't surprise me if they pulled in more than me, and I'm an electrical engineering consultant.

Has nothing to do with looks either, I've seen some ugly, UGLY motherfuckers working in my industry pulling in six figures or higher, and they're pretty much always married. Granted their wives probably aren't stunners, but they're happily married with kids.

Guys these days are just spoiled and entitled, they don't know the fucking meaning of struggle. I honestly wished I could struggle more because I think that's what men were created for, but we don't have a war, we don't have any grandiose purpose to give our lives meaning.

I wasn't raised wealthy either, I know the meaning of struggle, to graduate with $188k of student loans on my head, working a tough job just to cover the $50k a year interest payment on those loans. I've endured that pain for a long time, and it pisses me off when people who have no such burden complain that things are rigged. The willingness to delay gratification is just gone, and I'm willing to bet a lot of it, a LOT of it, is because of porn/social media. Instant gratification, instant sympathy from other people in their situation.


This is the BoomerCon "pull yourself by the bootstraps" spiel.

In what bizaro world is graduating with $200K debt normal? So you've managed to get out of your debt slavery because you have access to the oil industry and have worked like a dog for decades, good for you.

Do you realize that your father graduated with little debt, could get high paying jobs in the auto or widget-making industry, and your grandfathers the concept of college debt did not exist, and they were able to raise your parents and their many siblings on one salary?

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(06-01-2019 10:28 PM)Cumlluminates Wrote:  
(12-19-2018 03:56 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  Good!
It will hasten the inevitable collapse, and that hopefully will be followed an American renaissance.

I can't wait!

The left and progressives can go pound sand.

There won't be any "collapse", just boiling frog gradual decline with the masses lowering their standards and the majority accepting them as the new norms. Change will only happen once enough people are aware of the true nature of their societal decline, until then it's just divide and conquer wedge politics where the anger of those who are being left out gets misdirected.

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Many factors contributed to what were seeing and it won't get fixed any time soon.

The genie's out of the bottle and dating apps were the final nail in the coffin for beta male provider game and women now have unlimited access to alpha males like never before. They're not deciding whether or not to sleep with an alpha male these days, they're deciding WHICH ONE to sleep with.

Social media warped their...let's admit this, already warped mating strategy of "sleeping with the best and only the best" so now no man is good enough for her, and more and more men are waking up to the fact that these entitled women aren't even close to being marriageable.

Technology threw a monkey wrench into the mating market and this problem won't be getting fixed any time soon.
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Worth a full watch but skip to 6:10



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(06-01-2019 10:34 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  I wasn't raised wealthy either, I know the meaning of struggle, to graduate with $188k of student loans on my head, working a tough job just to cover the $50k a year interest payment on those loans. I've endured that pain for a long time, and it pisses me off when people who have no such burden complain that things are rigged. The willingness to delay gratification is just gone, and I'm willing to bet a lot of it, a LOT of it, is because of porn/social media. Instant gratification, instant sympathy from other people in their situation.

You're a slave to the Jew.

I'll make enough to cover myself, but I'm not going to break my back being a slave and feeding the system.
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(06-02-2019 02:08 PM)VNvet Wrote:  
(06-01-2019 10:34 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  I wasn't raised wealthy either, I know the meaning of struggle, to graduate with $188k of student loans on my head, working a tough job just to cover the $50k a year interest payment on those loans. I've endured that pain for a long time, and it pisses me off when people who have no such burden complain that things are rigged. The willingness to delay gratification is just gone, and I'm willing to bet a lot of it, a LOT of it, is because of porn/social media. Instant gratification, instant sympathy from other people in their situation.

You're a slave to the Jew.

I'll make enough to cover myself, but I'm not going to break my back being a slave and feeding the system.

Woops - I meant $13k, not $50k interest. LOL. I only pay $4k/year now in interest.


Quote:This is the BoomerCon "pull yourself by the bootstraps" spiel.

In what bizaro world is graduating with $200K debt normal? So you've managed to get out of your debt slavery because you have access to the oil industry and have worked like a dog for decades, good for you.

Do you realize that your father graduated with little debt, could get high paying jobs in the auto or widget-making industry, and your grandfathers the concept of college debt did not exist, and they were able to raise your parents and their many siblings on one salary?

It isn't normal. I'm only 30 years old, wouldn't surprise me if I am considered a millennial either. All I was saying is that people go to college for the wrong reasons, taking on debt that they shouldn't be, without the means to pay it back after graduating.
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Men use to be the providers (the state providers today) and the women raise the kids. Now things have changed for the worst! Mainstream brainwashed women to be a man (slave to a job and even to act muscular) and do it all by herself (having kids). She doesn't act like a woman (feminine and submissive) hence why a relationships doesn't work anymore. It's suppose to work like a boss (man) and an employee (woman) where the employee gives suggests but the boss has the overall say on a matter. She's giving it up to be a slave to a job and work with people she usually hates instead of being a free woman at home, looking after her man that's she loves and her children. Men also has no rights in the divorce court and lose their lives hence why 1 in 5 suicides are due to the divorce courts.
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The boomer heyday was an unprecedented planetary alignment of postwar peak empire prosperity. Don't mistake their world for being "normal".

Yes. Things are getting bad but they're far from catastrophic. You can still find a decent wife and make a decent living if you make smart choices while accepting you're not going to live like a king by historical standards or even as well as your parents or grandparents did.

That doesn't mean we should accept the degradation of our societies, but don't couple the downward spiral of society with the assumption that you cannot personally win happiness with your wits and your work ethic.

God demands of Man responsibility. God demands of Woman vulnerability. These are their curse and blessing alike. Libertianism is to Man as Feminism is to Woman.
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(06-02-2019 08:54 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The boomer heyday was an unprecedented planetary alignment of postwar peak empire prosperity. Don't mistake their world for being "normal".

This is a good point that is easily overlooked or simply forgotten these days. My grandfather, born in the early 1920s, grew up in a house with a dirt floor and no running water. In the United States of America. That was less than a hundred years ago. The family was certainly not well-off, but their station in life was fairly typical, especially in the Depression-era South. For all of the problems we face today, most of us have no idea what it's like to really struggle in life the way that our ancestors did. Because most of them were literally struggling for their lives on a not-infrequent basis. War, famine, disease, poverty, and premature death are the normal state of affairs for humanity. The second half of the twentieth century was extraordinarily anomalous in that regard, an unprecedented period of growth and prosperity for the Western world. A run like that can't go on forever. There will be a reversion to the mean at some point in the future, which means that some of my descendants will again grow up in a house with dirt floors and no indoor plumbing, the same way my grandfather did. Such is the cyclical pattern of civilization through the Ages.

In the meanwhile, if your list of problems doesn't include things like the threat of literally starving to death, having four of your seven children die before age 10 or having your wife raped and your village burned to the ground by a passing army, count yourself more fortunate than most men who've ever lived. Working an underpaid job, fending off existential ennui and dealing with flaky Tinder thots suddenly seems quite manageable in comparison.

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(06-02-2019 01:45 PM)Kungfu Wrote:  Worth a full watch but skip to 6:10




6:10... further proof that JP is controlled opposition. Toeing the line on edgy subjects to lure in wrongthinkers....then when presented a practical solution backing off, acting emotional and saying I JUST DON'T KNOW I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. Exact same cookie cutter tactic with the whole IQ subject. Sigh... Dodgy
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Thanks to the power of feminism and the LGBT community, that play isn't a bad move. In this society where everything a man does is wrong I can see why a group of men deciding to go mgtow. It's mentally and financially better. There's also peace and freedom.
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(12-21-2018 12:59 PM)AntoniusofEfa Wrote:  The trades pay much more than many white collar jobs, and that is without even owning the company.

There may not be as much jobs in the trades in the next few decades due to automation replacing many workers.

Make our guns illegal and we'll call them "undocumented"
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