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I have a long dryspell--I'm breaking this streak!
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RE: I have a long dryspell--I'm breaking this streak!
I went to the club. Decent crowd. Didn't have the wing. All the sets were two or more girls.

I left and went to the whiskey bar, and decided I'd do like an approach or two.

As I drink there's a large tranny who's voice cuts through the venue. Fuck this shit.

I find two cute blondes and use an observational opener. I seem to have their attention I must have been the first person to approach them this night. Again, I'm fucking tired, so the energy is not there. There leave after about a minute.

Today I'm doing daygame.

My positives and negatives so far:
1)Sometimes I go out and do massive approaches, while other times I only manage one or two.
2) My energy level lately has been low and it hurts my sets
3) Opening is easy but sometimes have trouble with the next stage
4) I never run out of things to say
5) Have a couple venues where I'm well established.
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RE: I have a long dryspell--I'm breaking this streak!
I've already fucked up my first daygame set in a while.

I'm at a coffeeshop, and I'll daygame as long as I can today...

Girl is waiting for her coffee, and say, fuck it, it's not gonna get any easier. So I indirectly open her up.

Observational opener, very easy conversation starter because she has a camera. So I start asking her about photography, what she photographs, etc. And tell her a bit about what I photography. This is not an optimal way to open a girl because as soon as she gets her coffee she leaves. I should have asked for her insta handle because her time as well as mine was limited. That's what I've created my insta for, and it's pretty good actually.

A beginner mistake that I'm not gonna repeat again. Gotta close these sets!
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RE: I have a long dryspell--I'm breaking this streak!
(02-02-2019 05:36 PM)Heuristics Wrote:  I've already fucked up my first daygame set in a while.

I'm at a coffeeshop, and I'll daygame as long as I can today...

Girl is waiting for her coffee, and say, fuck it, it's not gonna get any easier. So I indirectly open her up.

Observational opener, very easy conversation starter because she has a camera. So I start asking her about photography, what she photographs, etc. And tell her a bit about what I photography. This is not an optimal way to open a girl because as soon as she gets her coffee she leaves. I should have asked for her insta handle because her time as well as mine was limited. That's what I've created my insta for, and it's pretty good actually.

A beginner mistake that I'm not gonna repeat again. Gotta close these sets!

Dang how do you have time for this? I'm going through a dry spell myself but I just don't have the time or patience to be putting into day or night game outside of 2-3 hrs/week.
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RE: I have a long dryspell--I'm breaking this streak!
(02-02-2019 06:18 PM)monsquid Wrote:  
(02-02-2019 05:36 PM)Heuristics Wrote:  I've already fucked up my first daygame set in a while.

I'm at a coffeeshop, and I'll daygame as long as I can today...

Girl is waiting for her coffee, and say, fuck it, it's not gonna get any easier. So I indirectly open her up.

Observational opener, very easy conversation starter because she has a camera. So I start asking her about photography, what she photographs, etc. And tell her a bit about what I photography. This is not an optimal way to open a girl because as soon as she gets her coffee she leaves. I should have asked for her insta handle because her time as well as mine was limited. That's what I've created my insta for, and it's pretty good actually.

A beginner mistake that I'm not gonna repeat again. Gotta close these sets!

Dang how do you have time for this? I'm going through a dry spell myself but I just don't have the time or patience to be putting into day or night game outside of 2-3 hrs/week.

I go out Wed- Sat if I can manage, and I'm trying to make daygaming on weekends a habit from today on out.
02-02-2019 06:24 PM
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RE: I have a long dryspell--I'm breaking this streak!
Have you considered what most guys on this forum do and just go to an impoverished country? I'm not into doing that cuz I do really well in L.A., but if your on a 1 year dry spell(that's insane btw) then you should do it to at least break your drought. I've read colombia, Cambodia, and phillipines are good.
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RE: I have a long dryspell--I'm breaking this streak!
(02-02-2019 09:58 PM)Axel99 Wrote:  Have you considered what most guys on this forum do and just go to an impoverished country? I'm not into doing that cuz I do really well in L.A., but if your on a 1 year dry spell(that's insane btw) then you should do it to at least break your drought. I've read colombia, Cambodia, and phillipines are good.

I was actually in much worse physical shape when I was abroad, i posted in another thread about backpacking/ living in the third world for a while. I ended up back in the US. I was actually coming off a really bad breakup and it really crushed my spirit-- only now am I recovering. I'm one of those people that has trouble getting out of their head, and just not being emotional and/or living life, rather, micro-analyzing everything. I have not visited any of the destinations you mentioned, though.
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RE: I have a long dryspell--I'm breaking this streak!
I actually had the time of my life tonight, I'm a bit tired so I'll keep it brief.

I got promoted at work so I was celebrating... I have not celebrated and partied this much in about half a year or so. It was so much fun, as cliched as it may sound. I was not focusing on pickup at all. I believe it's counter-productive to think cognizant of pick up too much on night out.Summary follows:

I left the first daygame spot having only done several sets. I went to another coffee shop, and talked to some girls. No results, but that's ok. I had a nice glass of wine and worked on my instagram, which is getting really good.

To celebrate my success at work, I went barhopping.

Bar 1: Had a shot, looked in terror at the meth addict bartender/ tranny, and hoped I wouldn't get shot-- fun.

Bar 2: Had one rum and ate dinner. Hope I don't get sick.

Bar 3: Had a nice half-bottle of Spanish wine, and took a moment to enjoy the simple things in life, and the beautiful tattooed bartender.

Club 1: Show up decently buzzed, and decide to smoke. I'm just having fun.. Talk to several sets, and eject because of bad vibes... Have so much fun dancing with several pretty girls. One of the girls was just grinding all over me while dancing to country western, and I just had so much fun living in the moment... Pickup doesn't have to become an obsession. I just had so much fun, but I was acting outcome independent. I don't know if you guys have heard of dancefloor jealousy game (basically where you have one or several targets you talked to, and you danced with them one, or none times and moved on) but, holy shit is it powerful. You get so many IOIs when you start having fun.

Club 2: Get some drinks in me. Approach several sets. I feel so fucking positive. Dance on the dancefloor. Enjoy conversation with friends. Talk shit. Great, even though I have no results. Dancing on the dancefloor and even the bad vibes of the girls can't get me down.

Bar 4: Run into all these old friends I know, feels like a mixture of Fight Club and Cheers. One of those types of bars. Have the time of my life connecting with all these people I know. I'm just so fucking elated... I have all the time in the world for daygame.

Strip club: I'm still happy and I go to the strip club. I meet this beautiful black girl (I'm white and not normally into black girls), and I'm just amazed by all the beauty God put on this earth. I know this sounds beta, but I told her she was beautiful, not normally my type, but I fucking love her because she is an artist by her training. I actually believe her and her story checks out from my knowledge of the world.

This is where it gets funny: I'm digging this black girl so much I see these two black guys, and I decide I want to cockblock (maybe not the right word) them, because I'm really attracted to this girl. Anyway, I'm not a bad person so I take this dude a beer and introduce myself to him, and say, hey, I'm really attracted to this girl because it's a big day for me. I just shoot the shit with this random guy and his buddy and find out we all have these similar interests. I end up chilling with them, and then going to get some dances from the black girl. They end up taking me home, and I'm just elated. I'm outcome independent and happy. This black girl I took her info and even if it doesn't materialize into a date, I'm happy.

God's green earth is freaking beautiful and I don't have to game consciously every night.

This is what I needed. This guy is a minor instagram star/ actor in decent roles. The reason I met him is just because I was having fun. Need to be more spontaneous from now on.

edit: ran into a stripper I knew at second club, she greeted me by name. Shoot, I should have taken her number at that point... She remembered all the details of our last interaction. I don't want to call myself racist, but normally not into black girls. But, I have stopped looking at porn and jerking off for about a full week. I don't know about forum opinions of other races, not trying to start a flame war, but after stopping porn and jerking off, black girls are fucking beautiful. Beautiful human beings. I will text the stripper tom. because I got her number and try to meet up with her. Great night!. I'm starting to believe all vagina is beautiful. Maybe that makes me a philanthropist. I'm blessed with all these beautiful women whether they are at coffee shops, bars, clubs, restaurants, or strip clubs. I'm starting to understand what abundance mentality means. I'm not even picturing these women in sexual ways, despite no fap... It's just so much more fun to talk with them and connect with them... Note: also worked on my kino and shit talking tonight.

I will daygame tomorrow if I'm not hungover... I just feel so freaking positive. Fuck porn, live life.

I don't know if strip clubs are a sensitive subject on the forum or not, but I just notice so many positive improvements in my life from going to the strip club and talking to these girls, shooting the shit and complimenting them. This has been so helpful to my game, even though i know they kinda work there, and have to listen. In the past month or two, I just feel so much more confident, but it is difficult to quantify it. As someone somewhere between beginner-intermediate gaming, it has eased so much of my anxiety and helped me with real world approaches. I'm not trying to get in the habit of going to strip clubs, but holy shit, i know exactly what the endgame of women is there.

I'm still young and crazy so I wouldn't mind dating a stripper if it happens naturally. Finally, any advise on stripper game guys-- I'm still pretty green at game, but having the time of my life I really like strippers, but then again I've never dated one.

Apologies if I muddled my thoughts or my approach log.

Namaste bitches!
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RE: I have a long dryspell--I'm breaking this streak!
Trying to be more casual about pickup, and trying to consciously do sets. Last night I went out for drinks with my wing.

I'm chilling at the bar and the cute nurse, I'd place her around 30, sits down to my left. I don't make any effort to jump into the conversation she is having, but she said something to someone about where she had been, and I just made like an off the cuff comment. So she open to that, and we got talking about traveling, medicine, etc. We vibed really well. I made the mistake of not closing the distance between us. Anyway, I told her about what I did, she got really interested, and I plugged my instagram.. She took it instantly and followed me. I guess it's a question of proximity to girls you're interested in, and her level of receptiveness. Thus, it's good to be sitting at the bar if a single girl is gonna come up.

I must have talked to her 15-20 minutes and the spark was there. Then some beta sits next to me, and then another on the other side of me. I got really annoyed by this. Anyway I continued conversation. I asked my wing for an opinion. So I dropped that we were venue hopping, made my way over to her, said nice to meet you, etc, got a hug and walked out.

We went to go buy western wear. And then I sent the girl on the info on where we were going. THis is the response I got. "Nice to me you. I'm leaving at 4am for (redacted) so I'm not sure. I'll try though! it was so great meeting you... also I'm very single! emoji FYI.

Well she was a no-show.

Some older women at the bar were lifting their shirts up for us, but maybe that's normal behavior. The bar scene here is so strange. Wing pulled another SNL, but I went home to sleep, had work.
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RE: I have a long dryspell--I'm breaking this streak!
Total curiosity question here, feel free to ignore if you want.

You've been doing this for about two months, right?
About how many hours and how many dollars would you say you've spent on it?

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RE: I have a long dryspell--I'm breaking this streak!
Man if I were you I would've stayed in order to create more rapport... and a bit of Kino!! Hopefully you've created enough for her to at least agree to a date. In your position, I'd txt this girl semi aggressively in order to see her as quickly as possible... and escalate things! Somebody's about to Smash her soon... so it might as well be you!
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RE: I have a long dryspell--I'm breaking this streak!
(02-06-2019 01:35 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Total curiosity question here, feel free to ignore if you want.

You've been doing this for about two months, right?
About how many hours and how many dollars would you say you've spent on it?

Yeah, two months. At least two nights a week, probably 3 hours or so a night. Drinking like 3-4 drinks so maybe like 20 per night, maybe slightly less. Sometimes I don't separate drinking and gaming so that's a problem.

I started daygame last week, I've only done a few sets though. Today I opened a set, had good rapport etc, but I don't think I pushed through the convo enough. I should have asked her for her insta way earlier in the interaction. Anyway, so I ask for it at the end, and figure shit, she's probably lying that she doesn't have one, I'm not gonna ask for a number. This was an interaction of maybe only 10 minutes or less, but we talked about a lot.

I'm going out in a few hours to dance some and work on nightgame-- without being drunk or buzzed at all. I think i've learned some lessons. From what I've seen of my wings successes is that you have to be sure to project adequate interest and then be willing to close out... this is where many of my mistakes have been made.

(02-06-2019 04:45 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  Man if I were you I would've stayed in order to create more rapport... and a bit of Kino!! Hopefully you've created enough for her to at least agree to a date. In your position, I'd txt this girl semi aggressively in order to see her as quickly as possible... and escalate things! Somebody's about to Smash her soon... so it might as well be you!

She jumped town the next day. I should have stayed longer with her at the first venue, done some kino, and then tried for the pull home. My mistake.
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RE: I have a long dryspell--I'm breaking this streak!
I am working on inner game (two weeks into nofap, minimizing computer usage, daily workouts etc)-- I realized my wing is up to 7 notches since I met him, and he's a transplant to this town, so he has only been here a few months. All things considered, what he's pulling is all over the place, but it's hard to argue against 7 notches-- almost all of them single night lays, or a lay the following night after having met them.

On Valentines day he decided he wanted to approach (I told him the set to approach) and he was still talking to them after 30 minutes, so I decided to interject. Anyway he was doing really well with this big titted blonde girl. They make out that night and the next night she drives over to her place.

I have noticed that he handles the nightclub and bar environment better than I do, and for some reason he always just looks really relaxed. I am going to have to work on that, because it seems to be working well for him.

Anyway, he pulled another girl Saturday night although I was not there. Like I said, I am going to be focusing more on inner game, and I think what I will focus on first will be handling club environments, loud environments better. As well as more of a DGAF attitude.

My work has really been killing me so I haven't had any time to game in the past few days, but maybe that's a good thing; I have been getting in way better shape.

Note: I am in better shape than my wing, noticeably, we're both white, I'm taller than him, about 6-3 or so, we both dress above average for our town, etc. We have similar faces although mine is thinner. Although he has blue eyes which i don't.
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