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RE: Five Polish teenage girls killed in "Escape Room" fire
(01-08-2019 11:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Polish people are not high IQ, but when IQ is dropping rapidly in Western countries, they are becoming smarter without having to do anything.

Your average Polish dude probably isn't but on the other hand Poland has it's fair share of software developers, scientists, engineers etc. You can find a Polish trace almost all over the world in the least expected places: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrocarri...ral_Andino , http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/10822...sh-sensors

(01-08-2019 11:23 PM)SteezeySteve Wrote:  Fuck escape rooms. Sounds like some easy ass shit to get out of or else they couldn't profit / allow the average person to participate.

I've just always thought they sounded stupid.

I can't think of a self-respecting adult to attend this sort of venue. Fuck this synthetic entertainment and lets go climb something.



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Poor girls.

I did one of these once a few years ago. It was reasonably fun. The door was locked but it was at the top of an open stairwell. If a fire had broken out, we could have easily climbed over the banister next to it and escaped.

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(01-09-2019 07:17 PM)zigZag Wrote:  Well a High IQ, Ethnically Homogenous Country wouldn't Have their citizens keep leaving to go to other countries. Yeah English don't want poles cause they compete for jobs. The same way Americans don't want Mexicans cause they lower wages and also compete for jobs. Yet we elected a guy who wanted to build a Wall on the border with Mexico. You can make all the excuses and give all the reasons you want. Poland isn't a country that you want to look up to. That's why so many of their citizens have left.

The point i'm trying to make is that if Poland is held up as some High IQ Ethnostate then i'm REALLY REALLY underwhelmed. Because Poland isn't that great.

Why would you assume this? Tons of South Koreans have left their country to seek their fortunes elsewhere, and they sure as hell are a high IQ and ethnically homogeneous nation. The point I was trying to make is that the initiative the Polish government has taken might not be possible in a place like Mexico. I'm not talking about getting rich or being the envy of the world. I'm talking basic social cohesion.
01-09-2019 09:31 PM
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(01-09-2019 08:08 PM)Bury Zenek Wrote:  Your average Polish dude probably isn't but on the other hand Poland has it's fair share of software developers, scientists, engineers etc. You can find a Polish trace almost all over the world in the least expected places: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrocarri...ral_Andino , http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/10822...sh-sensors

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(01-09-2019 09:31 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 07:17 PM)zigZag Wrote:  Well a High IQ, Ethnically Homogenous Country wouldn't Have their citizens keep leaving to go to other countries. Yeah English don't want poles cause they compete for jobs. The same way Americans don't want Mexicans cause they lower wages and also compete for jobs. Yet we elected a guy who wanted to build a Wall on the border with Mexico. You can make all the excuses and give all the reasons you want. Poland isn't a country that you want to look up to. That's why so many of their citizens have left.

The point i'm trying to make is that if Poland is held up as some High IQ Ethnostate then i'm REALLY REALLY underwhelmed. Because Poland isn't that great.

Why would you assume this? Tons of South Koreans have left their country to seek their fortunes elsewhere, and they sure as hell are a high IQ and ethnically homogeneous nation. The point I was trying to make is that the initiative the Polish government has taken might not be possible in a place like Mexico. I'm not talking about getting rich or being the envy of the world. I'm talking basic social cohesion.

And notice the use of the present tense. Korean emigration is still ongoing for the unaware. I've read a lot of Reddit rumors that most of the prostitutes in Rub & Tug massage parlors in USA are from South Korea (even though their minimum wage is now $6.7 and it's a full employment society in a nutshell and consumer index is also pretty cheap if you live off Gmarket and use the Jeonse rental system. Koreans are just way more open to being prostitutes than some other cultures).
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RE: Five Polish teenage girls killed in "Escape Room" fire
(01-09-2019 07:17 PM)zigZag Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 04:04 PM)sjack Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 03:30 PM)zigZag Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 08:26 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 07:27 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Nice to actually see a competent government for a change. If this happened in the USA, the media would blame Trump and highlight the white privilege of customers who frequent escape rooms.

Amazing what you can accomplish with an ethnically homogeneous, high IQ population.

English people left the EU in part because so many Polish people were moving to England. Poland isn't African level of shithole but let's not pretend they are some enlightened civilization that masses of people are wanting to visit.


That was mainly because they were losing a lot of jobs to working class Poles, not because of anything particular with the Polish themselves, and most Poles move there because the average wage is 6 times higher, which is mainly because their economy got gimped by communism. A huge chunk of major Polish cities are still much safer than some of the fucked up shithole places of London and cities like Croydon. And FYI Poland was in the top 20 most visited countries in the world for 2018.

https://govisity.com/most-visited-countries-world/

Not as much as American, UK or Germany but still not to be underestimated.

Well a High IQ, Ethnically Homogenous Country wouldn't Have their citizens keep leaving to go to other countries. Yeah English don't want poles cause they compete for jobs. The same way Americans don't want Mexicans cause they lower wages and also compete for jobs. Yet we elected a guy who wanted to build a Wall on the border with Mexico. You can make all the excuses and give all the reasons you want. Poland isn't a country that you want to look up to. That's why so many of their citizens have left.

The point i'm trying to make is that if Poland is held up as some High IQ Ethnostate then i'm REALLY REALLY underwhelmed. Because Poland isn't that great.
(01-09-2019 04:09 PM)BaatumMania Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 03:30 PM)zigZag Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 08:26 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 07:27 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Nice to actually see a competent government for a change. If this happened in the USA, the media would blame Trump and highlight the white privilege of customers who frequent escape rooms.

Amazing what you can accomplish with an ethnically homogeneous, high IQ population.

English people left the EU in part because so many Polish people were moving to England. Poland isn't African level of shithole but let's not pretend they are some enlightened civilization that masses of people are wanting to visit.

Well you guys accomplished the Brexit. So the number of white Europeans go down but levels of African, Middle East and Indian immigration will remain the same and/or increase over time. Time will time whether this is what people actually wanted or if they were just too cowardly to demand a complete shut down of the open border immigration system.

I'm not British. I just made that post replying to someone holding up Poland when poland is basically just Mexico with lower crime. Same way mexicans try to flee to america it's the same way poles flee to germany and England. It's not an example of a country that's highly successful that you want to hold it up as "High IQ, Ethnically homogenous"

Lol, Poland is basically Mexico but with less crime? Poland has less crime than your Americanoid, school shooter epidemic riddled, mass murdering ktichen soup of an orgy shithole country. Poland far exceeds Mexico in quality of life, corruption, murder and human rights. Poles migrate to England and Germany because of higher wages, because their economy got gimped by communists which was caused by external circumstances beyond their control *cough* they were served on a platter by both the Nazis and Soviets *cough*

As others mentioned with S. Korea above, even high IQ hyper ethnically homogeneous countries have emigrating populations, (hell even Japs are emigrating to Australia) but what makes them better than your soup kitchen, homicide riddled nation is the social cohesion and safety it brings. So yeah I do think Poland is at least country to look up to more than 80% of this planet, especially your pants-on-head retarded Americanoid country of creaturas.
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RE: Five Polish teenage girls killed in "Escape Room" fire
(01-09-2019 09:31 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 07:17 PM)zigZag Wrote:  Well a High IQ, Ethnically Homogenous Country wouldn't Have their citizens keep leaving to go to other countries. Yeah English don't want poles cause they compete for jobs. The same way Americans don't want Mexicans cause they lower wages and also compete for jobs. Yet we elected a guy who wanted to build a Wall on the border with Mexico. You can make all the excuses and give all the reasons you want. Poland isn't a country that you want to look up to. That's why so many of their citizens have left.

The point i'm trying to make is that if Poland is held up as some High IQ Ethnostate then i'm REALLY REALLY underwhelmed. Because Poland isn't that great.

Why would you assume this? Tons of South Koreans have left their country to seek their fortunes elsewhere, and they sure as hell are a high IQ and ethnically homogeneous nation. The point I was trying to make is that the initiative the Polish government has taken might not be possible in a place like Mexico. I'm not talking about getting rich or being the envy of the world. I'm talking basic social cohesion.

Umm I didn't bring up south korea but since you did. The population of South korea is 51 million. The population of Poland is 38 Million. There are 22 million poles living outside of poland.

My guess it's more because alot of them work seasonally in germany and england. The Korean diaspora(I guess the data includes north korea) Is about 8 million. There is a HUGE difference. But my point is simple. In a high IQ Ethnically HOmogenous country, This type of accident from sloppiness and incompetence wouldn't happen.

This wouldnt happen in Switzerland. This wouldn't happen in Finland. This wouldnt happen in Germany. So you were basically bragging about something that's negative and making it into a positive. On top of that what you described and were proud of is something ANY government can do.

There is nothing special about closing down a bunch of places and inpsecting them. That's my point.

Poland is a developing 2nd world country but lets not kid ourselves and pretend they are some majestic First world country.

(01-10-2019 03:37 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 09:31 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 07:17 PM)zigZag Wrote:  Well a High IQ, Ethnically Homogenous Country wouldn't Have their citizens keep leaving to go to other countries. Yeah English don't want poles cause they compete for jobs. The same way Americans don't want Mexicans cause they lower wages and also compete for jobs. Yet we elected a guy who wanted to build a Wall on the border with Mexico. You can make all the excuses and give all the reasons you want. Poland isn't a country that you want to look up to. That's why so many of their citizens have left.

The point i'm trying to make is that if Poland is held up as some High IQ Ethnostate then i'm REALLY REALLY underwhelmed. Because Poland isn't that great.

Why would you assume this? Tons of South Koreans have left their country to seek their fortunes elsewhere, and they sure as hell are a high IQ and ethnically homogeneous nation. The point I was trying to make is that the initiative the Polish government has taken might not be possible in a place like Mexico. I'm not talking about getting rich or being the envy of the world. I'm talking basic social cohesion.

And notice the use of the present tense. Korean emigration is still ongoing for the unaware. I've read a lot of Reddit rumors that most of the prostitutes in Rub & Tug massage parlors in USA are from South Korea (even though their minimum wage is now $6.7 and it's a full employment society in a nutshell and consumer index is also pretty cheap if you live off Gmarket and use the Jeonse rental system. Koreans are just way more open to being prostitutes than some other cultures).

Korean emigration 8 million
Polish Emigration 22 million

So poland has more emigration with a lower population. GDP per capita of korea is more than twice that of poland. And most importantly an accident like this wouldnt happen in Korea because it's actually a High IQ population. Unlike poland. That's my point.
(01-10-2019 08:53 AM)sjack Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 07:17 PM)zigZag Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 04:04 PM)sjack Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 03:30 PM)zigZag Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 08:26 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  Amazing what you can accomplish with an ethnically homogeneous, high IQ population.

English people left the EU in part because so many Polish people were moving to England. Poland isn't African level of shithole but let's not pretend they are some enlightened civilization that masses of people are wanting to visit.


That was mainly because they were losing a lot of jobs to working class Poles, not because of anything particular with the Polish themselves, and most Poles move there because the average wage is 6 times higher, which is mainly because their economy got gimped by communism. A huge chunk of major Polish cities are still much safer than some of the fucked up shithole places of London and cities like Croydon. And FYI Poland was in the top 20 most visited countries in the world for 2018.

https://govisity.com/most-visited-countries-world/

Not as much as American, UK or Germany but still not to be underestimated.

Well a High IQ, Ethnically Homogenous Country wouldn't Have their citizens keep leaving to go to other countries. Yeah English don't want poles cause they compete for jobs. The same way Americans don't want Mexicans cause they lower wages and also compete for jobs. Yet we elected a guy who wanted to build a Wall on the border with Mexico. You can make all the excuses and give all the reasons you want. Poland isn't a country that you want to look up to. That's why so many of their citizens have left.

The point i'm trying to make is that if Poland is held up as some High IQ Ethnostate then i'm REALLY REALLY underwhelmed. Because Poland isn't that great.
(01-09-2019 04:09 PM)BaatumMania Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 03:30 PM)zigZag Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 08:26 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  Amazing what you can accomplish with an ethnically homogeneous, high IQ population.

English people left the EU in part because so many Polish people were moving to England. Poland isn't African level of shithole but let's not pretend they are some enlightened civilization that masses of people are wanting to visit.

Well you guys accomplished the Brexit. So the number of white Europeans go down but levels of African, Middle East and Indian immigration will remain the same and/or increase over time. Time will time whether this is what people actually wanted or if they were just too cowardly to demand a complete shut down of the open border immigration system.

I'm not British. I just made that post replying to someone holding up Poland when poland is basically just Mexico with lower crime. Same way mexicans try to flee to america it's the same way poles flee to germany and England. It's not an example of a country that's highly successful that you want to hold it up as "High IQ, Ethnically homogenous"

Lol, Poland is basically Mexico but with less crime? Poland has less crime than your Americanoid, school shooter epidemic riddled, mass murdering ktichen soup of an orgy shithole country. Poland far exceeds Mexico in quality of life, corruption, murder and human rights. Poles migrate to England and Germany because of higher wages, because their economy got gimped by communists which was caused by external circumstances beyond their control *cough* they were served on a platter by both the Nazis and Soviets *cough*

As others mentioned with S. Korea above, even high IQ hyper ethnically homogeneous countries have emigrating populations, (hell even Japs are emigrating to Australia) but what makes them better than your soup kitchen, homicide riddled nation is the social cohesion and safety it brings. So yeah I do think Poland is at least country to look up to more than 80% of this planet, especially your pants-on-head retarded Americanoid country of creaturas.

Yeah Poland has less crime than mexico i said that. But economically they are in the same bracket.

Of course emigration happens but Poles have cleared out. Look at my reponses to posters above. It's nowhere close.

As to your point about americanoids. It's hilarious you say that because every single pole i've talked to would KILL for a visa to america. And the highest number of illegal aliens from europe in america are.... POLISH.

I don't hate poland. quite the opposite.

But lets not kid our selves and pretend like Poland is some high IQ first world country where it's economically sound and people are able to live comfortably. It's quite the opposite. It's 2nd world middle of the road country with lots of migrant workers similar to mexico.

That's all i'm saying I don't know why Thot Leader brought up South Korea.
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(01-08-2019 08:19 PM)SteezeySteve Wrote:  Are those things fun?

No.

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(01-10-2019 02:06 PM)zigZag Wrote:  Korean emigration 8 million
Polish Emigration 22 million

Jesus fucking christ this thread.

This data IS NOT on Polish emigration. It's Polish diaspora.

Look up how population of Poland has changed past 20 years or so -- not significantly.

You can do it by googling: "poland population X", where X stands for year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_diaspora

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_diaspora -- now look at German 'diaspora'. Looks like most of the current population of Germany has already emigrated. Not necessarily true, is it?

And if you want a direct comparison with Western country. 10-15 years ago Polish people were amazed on how great life in England was. Comparing London to Warsaw 30-40 years ago was like comparing a Papua New Guinea to a fucking New York City.

Now? Visting UK lately I can tell you that:

a) Polish 'NHS' is more efficient and way more thorough (still sucks)
b) Paperwork is quicker (still fucking slow and equally bothersome)
c) You feel 10 times more safe in Poland

Downsides to Poland?

Your money means shit if you want to take it abroad. Rising prices vs stagnant rates do not help either. Despite some saying Poland is going throughout the economy boom, the comfort of living past few years have not improved by much. Just look at the data on how much the minimum wage has increased vs how much the costs of living has increased. The plus is the country is attracting more and more Western companies, and this trend will only get stronger.

For comparison, I can live on 'Buy 1 Get 1 Free' in Tesco in the UK equally cheap as I can on deals in Poland. German Lidl also has comparable prices, if not lower in some cases.

Still, it's nowhere a Mexico level. Both Hungary and Czech Republic represent similar cost of living, prices, and opportunities (taking into consideration much smaller population of these countries) as Poland.

Come, and visit, but don't bash it right away without stepping a foot in the country or getting familar with situation in Europe.

If you opened the gates to the US and allowed free migration from Mexico, you could quickly change the name of your country to Estados Unidos de Mexico. While in Europe, despite free movement within the EU, population of Poland has not changed drastically.

Also -- kill for a working VISA in the US? Why would anyone in Poland want do that when they have whole European Union open? Sure, I, personally, would love to live in the US for a bit -- taste the culture, expand my network, and have fun for the most part. But you can pretty much get the same money in WE, so for most people it's actually trying out the 'unknown/different' rather than typical labor migration.

For the reference -- I'm a self-employed student on low-end Western income in Poland, and I don't plan to live here any longer than it's in line with my goals. So despite my 'defender' stance, I definitely do not have that much love for this country. But, I can't allow constant spreading of false information, especially in the only online community that I actually value.

Poland among younger population is as Western as it gets, and I can see it on daily basis. Horrible attitudes for girls <20 and younger. Slightly better for 20-25.

Economically -- still far away. What Poland needs is a venture capital, and people/companies that will take more risk. They are not necessarily bad in inventing things and coming up with new solutions, but it's all getting sold to Western countries. Lack of balls in terms of taking risk and having the opportunities to do that is a big problem that will keep our economy stagnant. In Germany for example, the minority providing most scientific patents are Poles. The number of patent-worthy projects in Poland is quite high too, but when it comes to actually patenting the stuff... the number is extremely low.

The comfort of living alone is comparable with Western European countries. For example, if I were to give UK a 8, Poland deserves a solid 6. And thats from perspective of the young, and money and carrer-oriented guy. If I wanted to rise a family, I'm sure it would be the other way around.

As for the IQ measurements -- I'm not a fan of them for the most part. Seems like every single ranking can be entirely different from each other. I rather rely on data instead. And data on education in Poland looks good -- EU average+ at least, which I have mentioned in the last post.

Current education system is still (unfortunately) based on the one communists introduced back in the days. Meaning, loads of stuff you won't ever need in real life (and this time -- really too much), with very little practice classess that would be more beneficial for the development of a young kid. Learn, learn, learn, and forget right away after the test. Stupid and impractical waste of resources.

That said, following this system people turn out to be pretty much educated. As long as I consider it a waste of time and resources, you can't deny the fact that public education for kids in Poland in this regard is actually top-notch. Literally every kid has some education, and for the most part -- possesses strong knowledge about the world. For example, when I had a chance to go UK public school, I was in an intermediate reading classess and best maths classess without knowing the language at all!! It was only fun for those kids -- playing soccer, doing stupid shit or singing. I come back to Poland year after and I'm actually threatened that I may not make it to another class and they force you to study for a couple hours a day. Worlds-apart difference. Although, the UK public education is horrible, so that's another issue. From what a German friend told me, their schools look much closer to Poland in this regard, but still Poland puts way too much stress on the kids, and from the early age forces them too learn too much of impractical shit.

You can't deny the fact that Polish people are for the most part well-educated. As I said earlier in my short post, universities are a different 'beast', although they work in a similar manner. You still learn tons of shit you don't need, while having very little time to focus on what you will actually need, but -- university is a time when focusing on WHAT YOU NEED is actually way more important than in school. And that's the biggest downside. You get good in tests, actually, you get very good in tests, but you don't have enough practical knowledge and life experience to do well in your future job. You don't acquire the needed skillset. I know it's common for all unis -- that's how they usually work, but it's a problem on much bigger scale in Poland than in other countries.

For further info on migration from Poland after joining EU you can check the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migrations..._accession

The graph on the right shows numbers in thousands by the way. There is more Ukrainians in Poland at the moment than that, and the only ones that seem to be the most affected are students having a harder time to find part-time jobs, and low-level workers.

Though the current governing party is fucking its citizens in the ass too by taking not only a big number of Ukrainians, but also inviting the SEA workers. Still better than what West is doing.

Still, its clear that the last problem of England or any other western country is SURPLUS OF POLAKS taking their jobs and making the rates stagnant. People still thinking this way should follow the thread almost single-handendly lead by Simeon_Strangelight in Politics section, and thoroughly re-examine their priorities.

Lastly, this post, together with those above, should be moved to the Poland thread. Five girls died after all, so that's not the most appropriate place to make jokes and introduce political, economic, and IQ topics.
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