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(01-09-2019 12:29 PM)Renzy Wrote:  Prior to 1987 homosexuality was considered a mental disorder. Welcome to 2019 where homosex and transgenderism is normal and traditional masculinity is what's considered the mental disorder.

As a father raising a son in modern day America my feeling is this - Fuck these people and fuck our culture.

What this says to be is they just go along with whatever's trendy at the time and there is very little actual intellectual depth to their thinking.

Back when religion held sway, they wanted to appease the clergy. Now they bow down to the media gods. I wonder what they'll considered a "disorder" in ten years?

An important thing to remember is that if we all don't have "disorders," they don't have jobs. Since being gay is now normal, they needed something to replace it to keep those clients coming in. They've put psychologists and counselors everywhere, from workplaces to schools, so the more disorders, the more they all get paid.
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(01-09-2019 10:41 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 12:29 PM)Renzy Wrote:  Prior to 1987 homosexuality was considered a mental disorder. Welcome to 2019 where homosex and transgenderism is normal and traditional masculinity is what's considered the mental disorder.

As a father raising a son in modern day America my feeling is this - Fuck these people and fuck our culture.

What this says to be is they just go along with whatever's trendy at the time and there is very little actual intellectual depth to their thinking.

Back when religion held sway, they wanted to appease the clergy. Now they bow down to the media gods. I wonder what they'll considered a "disorder" in ten years?

An important thing to remember is that if we all don't have "disorders," they don't have jobs. Since being gay is now normal, they needed something to replace it to keep those clients coming in. They've put psychologists and counselors everywhere, from workplaces to schools, so the more disorders, the more they all get paid.

They are laying the groundwork for mass incarceration of men.
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I know I've been saying this a million times... but when shit like this comes up, it's time to emigrate to saner cultures, especially if you want to have a family and raise kids.
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Here is a non-inclusive (no pun intended) list of buzzwords from the APA article:

white men
exclusion
dominate
victimized
boys of color
androcentric
traditional masculinity
social forces
patriarchy
second-wave feminist movement
gender roles conferred by a person's biological sex
gendered experiences
gender lens
gender-aware
flexible gender attitudes
systemic racism
intersect with immigration status
racial stereotyping
sexual minorities
transgender issues
cultural conversation
male-female binary
gender policing
nontransgender
masculinity ideology
diversity
cultural context
power
privilege
sexism
homophobia
transphobia
racial bias
types of discrimination
violence
positive-masculinities

The closing line:
Quote:“If we can change men,” he says, “we can change the world.”
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(01-10-2019 12:00 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  I know I've been saying this a million times... but when shit like this comes up, it's time to emigrate to saner cultures, especially if you want to have a family and raise kids.

The only problem is that via the power of the media (television, smart phones, music, etc.) these parasites are able to pollute the most indigenous of areas. That's why you see kids with saggy pants in Zaire, women with tattoos in Peru, etc.

At some point, everything comes full circle. And there's a virtue in standing one's ground, educating those around us that care to listen, and propagating a neomasculine worldview.

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(01-09-2019 06:18 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  Sherman already explained what this means. Now that there is a formal medical opinion, so every judge, prosecutor, divorce mediator, and school counselor who wants to destroy you can cite this as official science in their evaluation. Before they would have to justify their bias. Now it's a rubber-stamp.

From a bureaucratic perspective, this his HUGE.

It it social and political approval for institutionalized anti-male bias in jobs, housing, and law enforcement. They'll start slowly and carefully, building precedents. By the time you realize what's happening, it will be ingrained throughout the nation.

This is also a very clever way to confiscate or deny people guns in the US through "mental health" background checks. They're just widening the net of disorders to include men who would most likely defend and make use of the 2nd amendment.

Heck, under these new guidelines, Trump would be unfit to be President. See how this works?

The whole thing is an obvious attempt by the inversion agenda elite to clearly define who the enemy is. Now they have their WANTED poster for folks that need to be taken down.
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(01-09-2019 12:33 PM)Waqqle Wrote:  [Image: ef00a9a17b369f660a8586007f20a5fedb2514c4...3ff3a7.jpg]

As a side note, the CES (consumer electronics show) convention is going on in Vegas right now. Generally speaking, it's the largest convention of the entire year, bringing in 180,000+ attendees.

A HUGE amount of the attendees I'm seeing are guys like these Nu-males. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, but I keep seeing them travel in packs. They're just so...savvy, and upbeat. It reminds me of early game, breaking guys of bad habits like using too many excessive hand gestures or coming across as too excited. They're the antithesis of cool. It's one thing to read the forum and see these discussions of Silicon Valley invading politics. It's quite another to see the enemy face-to-face.

I can't help but feel that they'll all get a rude awakening at some point.

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Note that many of the cited works come from Kimmel, a self-hating sociologist ironically now accused of sexual harassment, not a psychologist:

"Indeed, heterosexual men’s adherence to traditional, sexist aspects of masculinity has been connected to sexual assault perpetration (Flood, 2015; Kimmel, 2008; for a review, see McDermott, Kilmartin, McKelvey, & Kridel, 2015)..."

Kimmel, M. S. (2008). Guyland: The perilous world where boys become men. New York, NY: Harper Perennia.

Instead of ((( ))) after ((( ))), posters here would be better off identifying other opportunitistic sociologists trying to cannibalize other real academics, albeit those with more rigorous scientific approaches, and critiquing their work.

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(01-10-2019 01:31 AM)Avoy Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 06:18 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  Sherman already explained what this means. Now that there is a formal medical opinion, so every judge, prosecutor, divorce mediator, and school counselor who wants to destroy you can cite this as official science in their evaluation. Before they would have to justify their bias. Now it's a rubber-stamp.

From a bureaucratic perspective, this his HUGE.

It it social and political approval for institutionalized anti-male bias in jobs, housing, and law enforcement. They'll start slowly and carefully, building precedents. By the time you realize what's happening, it will be ingrained throughout the nation.

This is also a very clever way to confiscate or deny people guns in the US through "mental health" background checks. They're just widening the net of disorders to include men who would most likely defend and make use of the 2nd amendment.

Heck, under these new guidelines, Trump would be unfit to be President. See how this works?

The whole thing is an obvious attempt by the inversion agenda elite to clearly define who the enemy is. Now they have their WANTED poster for folks that need to be taken down.

The only way this could be countered and stopped is all-out war. Huge lawsuits, online effort to paste the faces of these people on the internet and shame them as attempting to make your sons into criminals.

But none of this will happen. Nobody is going to fight back. We are on track for the step-by-step destruction of males, via financial disenfranchisement, social media exclusion, making sex a crime, making manhood a crime. Half of us here on RVF will be feeling major personal attacks in the next few years. Roosh already is.

This is "soft" genocide. Moving elsewhere won't help, unless you go to Russia or Hungary where there is active political awareness.

How will you travel when your passport is cancelled (because that is next).
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(01-10-2019 01:34 AM)Veloce Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 12:33 PM)Waqqle Wrote:  [Image: ef00a9a17b369f660a8586007f20a5fedb2514c4...3ff3a7.jpg]

As a side note, the CES (consumer electronics show) convention is going on in Vegas right now. Generally speaking, it's the largest convention of the entire year, bringing in 180,000+ attendees.

A HUGE amount of the attendees I'm seeing are guys like these Nu-males. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, but I keep seeing them travel in packs. They're just so...savvy, and upbeat. It reminds me of early game, breaking guys of bad habits like using too many excessive hand gestures or coming across as too excited. They're the antithesis of cool. It's one thing to read the forum and see these discussions of Silicon Valley invading politics. It's quite another to see the enemy face-to-face.

I can't help but feel that they'll all get a rude awakening at some point.

But where did they all come from?

I remember the internet in the 2000s and even the late 1990s. Back then I wouldn't say Numales / SoyBoys were using it that much. And yes I was even on forums like Totse and other bulletin forums I can't recall the name of. Hell one of the early social media outlets was MySpace and that place was actually attracted a lot of wannabe thugs (not SoyBoys).

Hell just as recent as 10 years ago people would make jokes on those kind of websites like: "there's no black people on the internet". So the previous internet atmosphere wasn't on the left spectrum except on sexual topics (even online communities that were setup to discuss Marxism were pretty rare and ghost towns). Dare I say it hasn't changed much. Like anytime I read YouTube comments I rarely see anyone supporting the SJWs.

While these guys kind of look like computer nerd physical stereotypes chances are 20 years ago their counterparts probably weren't on computers that much (because of the cost and/or obscurity) but they were definitely in academia and comic book stores?
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(01-10-2019 03:21 AM)MrLemon Wrote:  
(01-10-2019 01:31 AM)Avoy Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 06:18 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  Sherman already explained what this means. Now that there is a formal medical opinion, so every judge, prosecutor, divorce mediator, and school counselor who wants to destroy you can cite this as official science in their evaluation. Before they would have to justify their bias. Now it's a rubber-stamp.

From a bureaucratic perspective, this his HUGE.

It it social and political approval for institutionalized anti-male bias in jobs, housing, and law enforcement. They'll start slowly and carefully, building precedents. By the time you realize what's happening, it will be ingrained throughout the nation.

This is also a very clever way to confiscate or deny people guns in the US through "mental health" background checks. They're just widening the net of disorders to include men who would most likely defend and make use of the 2nd amendment.

Heck, under these new guidelines, Trump would be unfit to be President. See how this works?

The whole thing is an obvious attempt by the inversion agenda elite to clearly define who the enemy is. Now they have their WANTED poster for folks that need to be taken down.

The only way this could be countered and stopped is all-out war. Huge lawsuits, online effort to paste the faces of these people on the internet and shame them as attempting to make your sons into criminals.

But none of this will happen. Nobody is going to fight back. We are on track for the step-by-step destruction of males, via financial disenfranchisement, social media exclusion, making sex a crime, making manhood a crime. Half of us here on RVF will be feeling major personal attacks in the next few years. Roosh already is.

This is "soft" genocide. Moving elsewhere won't help, unless you go to Russia or Hungary where there is active political awareness.

How will you travel when your passport is cancelled (because that is next).

No it exists in Eastern Europe. The difference is the government there is suppressing it in places like Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMmnLO-AA6w


Unfortunately Russia can't do a whole lot about FEMEN because that group is based out of Ukraine and even then a lot of their members are also chilling in Western Europe for extra protection on top.
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https://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/wat...33eTHlz.99

#39 in the Commie plan to destroy America

Quote:39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

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I asked someone about this I'm related to who has about forty years of experience in the profession.

He pointed out that this is the "pscyhological" association and not the "psychiatric" association. Psychologists are a good bit more fruitbat than are psychiatrists.
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(01-10-2019 03:45 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  
(01-10-2019 01:34 AM)Veloce Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 12:33 PM)Waqqle Wrote:  [Image: ef00a9a17b369f660a8586007f20a5fedb2514c4...3ff3a7.jpg]

As a side note, the CES (consumer electronics show) convention is going on in Vegas right now. Generally speaking, it's the largest convention of the entire year, bringing in 180,000+ attendees.

A HUGE amount of the attendees I'm seeing are guys like these Nu-males. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, but I keep seeing them travel in packs. They're just so...savvy, and upbeat. It reminds me of early game, breaking guys of bad habits like using too many excessive hand gestures or coming across as too excited. They're the antithesis of cool. It's one thing to read the forum and see these discussions of Silicon Valley invading politics. It's quite another to see the enemy face-to-face.

I can't help but feel that they'll all get a rude awakening at some point.

But where did they all come from?

I remember the internet in the 2000s and even the late 1990s. Back then I wouldn't say Numales / SoyBoys were using it that much. And yes I was even on forums like Totse and other bulletin forums I can't recall the name of. Hell one of the early social media outlets was MySpace and that place was actually attracted a lot of wannabe thugs (not SoyBoys).

Hell just as recent as 10 years ago people would make jokes on those kind of websites like: "there's no black people on the internet". So the previous internet atmosphere wasn't on the left spectrum except on sexual topics (even online communities that were setup to discuss Marxism were pretty rare and ghost towns). Dare I say it hasn't changed much. Like anytime I read YouTube comments I rarely see anyone supporting the SJWs.

While these guys kind of look like computer nerd physical stereotypes chances are 20 years ago their counterparts probably weren't on computers that much (because of the cost and/or obscurity) but they were definitely in academia and comic book stores?

They look and act like this because their peers at school and at work do so also, presently. They're a product of the environment. I'd say a very small percentage of the population are independent free thinkers. The majority are collectivist group thinkers who only seek to fit in and need to be recognized by their peers like a junkie needs meth. Hence, all the virtue signaling, consumerism, etc. In addition, the feminized, uptalking, low-t young men are starting to behave like women and are taking on a docile, herd mentality demeanor. I wouldn't be surprised if they get preferential treatment by the female dominated HR team during the hiring process at big tech firms.
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Why Masculinity in Men is feared:




This is why Masculinity in men is being attacked. Contrasted with the effeminate man in conversation with Jesse Lee Peterson in the 2nd half of the video.
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I just posted this video on YT. Let me know what you guys think.

I talk about the Nature of Masculinity and how it relates to Objectivity. Why the Establishment is against Masculinity, and why Masculinity is important in Society. Part of a few videos I am making on the relationship between Art, Masculinity and Objectivity.







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(01-09-2019 12:33 PM)Waqqle Wrote:  [Image: ef00a9a17b369f660a8586007f20a5fedb2514c4...3ff3a7.jpg]

Gillette must be terrified of this cultural trend.

(01-09-2019 05:35 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  We are at peak misandry

If we were only so lucky. I think it could get worse still.
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Does that mean only the 17 ((())) are responsible for these demented APA psychological guidelines and the other 21 non ((())) have nothing to do with them?
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(01-13-2019 12:14 PM)Teutatis Wrote:  Does that mean only the 17 ((())) are responsible for these demented APA psychological guidelines and the other 21 non ((())) have nothing to do with them?

Yes and it also means Jews are at max 2.6% of the US population. I trust you can make the proper conclusion.
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Black Pigeon Speaks made an interesting point on this topic in his latest video. Essentially, he said that men who are traditionally masculine aren't anti-femininity (as stated in the report), but anti-feminist since they prefer women who express traditionally female characteristics. It's a good distinction. And it's easy to see how wordplay can mess with your head. Anti-femininity makes it sound like we hate all women. Obviously, that's not the case since we spend so much time seeking, thinking, and talking about them. If anything... we're pro real femininity. I'm guessing Roosh's upcoming book, Lady, will talk more on this.
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Feminism is simply (and always has been) a war on femininity.

“Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will call it fate.”
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Look at this:

Quote:PRIVILEGE
Privilege refers to unearned sources of social status, power, and institutionalized advantage experienced by individuals by virtue of their culturally valued and dominant social identities (e.g., White, Christian, male, and middle/upper class; McIntosh, 2008)

Really? Where shall I go to cash my "privilege"? Do I get a card or other ID to show to everybody and say: Hey, make it easy for me, I am "privileged"?
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All of the sudden someday if you have boys and your children wanna play with cars or at 'wars' the kid will be deemed 'abnormal'. He will be seen as 'crazy'.

"Don't you know little johnny only 'crazy' kids climb trees?"
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RE: American Psychological Association (APA) deems 'Traditional Masculinity' harmful
I ran into a nu-male at lunch today. Was getting some water from the soda fountain, and I must've inadvertently been blocking him, because I heard a sneering lisp behind me saying, "Well, this isn't making my day any easier."
I turned around and saw a guy, 5'9'' or so, at least 300 pounds, with a graying beard, a balding head, and a Super Mario Brothers T-Shirt stretched over a fat gut the size of two spare tires. He must've been easily 40 or so from the look of it.

One of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.
Why would you do that to yourself?
01-14-2019 01:58 PM
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