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Controlling facial expressions
Why is it that some people (who aren't even comedians) can deliver all their jokes deadpan, and barely crack a smile? Whenever they think of something funny, the thought doesn't affect their face at all?

How do people obtain this level of facial control? When making moves on a woman they stay dead serious and only slightly smirk when making a joke or upon hearing something funny.

Does it have to do with testosterone, inner belief, or frame? Smiling tends to be a sign of submission, and those quick to smile or react quickly in the face are seen as less masculine. What is it really?
01-13-2019 05:05 PM
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RE: Controlling facial expressions
Interesting. My dad has said that I have the worst poker face of all time. It has definitely fuck up my game/frame a handful of times in the past, especially when I was starting out in game, in which my emotions could clearly be read on my face despite me trying to hide it. On the other hand when I’m feeling good and “in the zone” I feel that it helps with being expressive. I’ve worked in sales and it was easy for people to trust me (because I was being genuine and I guess they could read it easily).

I’ve been working on being less expressive in tense situations, so to not appear rattled, and also because I’m starting to develop some forehead wrinkles due to raising my eyebrows and such. I’ll be interested to see if any nuggets of wisdom will be dropped.
01-13-2019 06:19 PM
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RE: Controlling facial expressions
Its a great question. Acting is a skill, you may be born with it, but you can certainly practice and get better at it, if you put the work in.

The next level of 9D chess is putting fake expressions on your face or body language to enhance your communication skills, and manipulate your opponents.
01-13-2019 07:04 PM
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RE: Controlling facial expressions
More or less, emotional stability.

Edit: Most people would probably want to know how to control it the other way though(that's why I clicked the thread). That is, they feel low/miserable and want to look positive and beaming. In which case I would generally focus on actually being joyful and enjoying life and grateful for what you have and who you are.
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2019 07:15 PM by The Catalyst.)
01-13-2019 07:12 PM
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RE: Controlling facial expressions
To me, what makes the most sense is that people smile and can't keep a straight face because they are caving to social pressure. It's ultimately a sign of submission.

I'll give a couple examples:

My vice president - natural alpha, bald head, 6'2'', basically moves slow and is silent. Best example would be James Bond. Very witty, extremely high IQ, high social competence, technically he is the greatest. The guy is extremely focused in whatever he does - and when he makes a joke, he will be COMPLETELY controlled in the face. Meanwhile whoever is speaking to him will be cracking up.

My manager - sharpest person I've ever met in my life. can never prove him wrong. he's got a strong voice, bulldog personality, but is very kind. pretty alpha. dude is more witty than my VP, and can maintain a deadpan face for as long as need be, while whatever he says is hilarious.

My grandfather - 60+ years old, short chubby guy, funniest person I've ever met in my life. We were traveling once in a train and he started making fun of someone (not present in our group) for like 10-15 minutes straight. People were literally in tears holding their sides laughing the entire time but he just kept talking on and on with a straight face (slight smirk).

I noticed that for me, the only time I can deliver deadpan is when I've meditated and am extremely present, and do not allow social pressure to get to me. I really think that smiling is a sign of submitting to pressure. It's why women will laugh at damn near anything when the person making them laugh is a guy they find extremely attractive.
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2019 08:02 PM by tugofpeace.)
01-13-2019 08:01 PM
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RE: Controlling facial expressions
theres the nervous smile which kills your game but smilling and laughing is very alpha and attractive. Being expressive with your voice and facial expressions is very important in game. one of my biggest changes in improving my game was forcing myself to smile more because even though I felt happy I wasnt showing it on my face. having said that I deliver most of my jokes dead pan because it leaves more space for the other person to laugh. its just practice
01-14-2019 12:18 AM
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RE: Controlling facial expressions
(01-13-2019 05:05 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  Why is it that some people (who aren't even comedians) can deliver all their jokes deadpan, and barely crack a smile? Whenever they think of something funny, the thought doesn't affect their face at all?

How do people obtain this level of facial control? When making moves on a woman they stay dead serious and only slightly smirk when making a joke or upon hearing something funny.

Does it have to do with testosterone, inner belief, or frame? Smiling tends to be a sign of submission, and those quick to smile or react quickly in the face are seen as less masculine. What is it really?

It's because they're not picturing the events depicted in the punchline. Focus on your audience instead of how funny you think you are.

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01-16-2019 07:19 PM
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