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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
I dunno why men think they can sleep around but a woman with even one sexual partner is damaged goods.
Bad news for you. Men who sleep around are also damaged goods.
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Girls night huh?
02-16-2019 10:36 PM
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(02-08-2019 03:05 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  (I'm sure mta worker once seen chick had my cock out on subway station, took her to my friend stairwell and fucked her)...

I'd walk into female friend apt where she is having an after party and sucking cock under the covers. Female friend would go in bathroom and get fucked by a guy. For my friend bday we had hotel and I'm undercovers eating some chicks ass...Also was in bathroom about to have sex with a chick I just met while friend is peeing in sink, female friend peeing on toilet and 2nd female friend who I didn't know at the time was doing coke... (They chick got weirded out so making out and fingering was all)

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This morning I thought about the very first girl I had (no idea why).

She was 16 and had over 40 sexual partners already.
Before someone asks, yes I was under 18 too so it was nothing illegal here.
Anyway, I asked her why and she said that she was profiting from her youth because at some point she would have to stop, you know, like when she would get married.

I was totally blue pill at the time so I didn't think about asking her who would accept to marry someone who slept with half the town already.
I mean, isn't what she was doing basically preemptively cucking her future husband ?

It's sad times we live.
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(01-30-2019 04:00 AM)Montrose Wrote:  @RatInTheWoods, several unfounded assumptions there. Many women have low sex drive and low energy (because their career takes all their energy) and are happy with sex once a week or even once a month or two. They don’t want to bother with a boyfriend but they need sex once in a while. If you fuck them once a month, they don’t look elsewhere and they don’t really care if you cheat.

Yes I know that, I have left a few women like that because we have incompatible sex drives.

Also you gotta wonder if they have low drive because they don't find you attractive, they are using you for "beta bucks" and you don't give them the tingles - another reason to ditch them and find a woman that wants to fuck you with passion.

None of that changes the issue of you promising to be faithful in your marriage and fucking around on the secret however.

Cool if she knows and agrees to the set up because she doesn't want to bang you, but wants your money and you want a trophy wife and side girls. As long as its all honest and agreed to then no harm, no foul.

But I got an issue with you thinking its ok to promise to be faithful, put on a front and then try tell me thats ethical, normal and ok... Its not mate.
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From my experiences most women have high sex drives, but low energy due to low iron...this makes them incredibly lazy and emotional

But they WILL make time for sex. I had a girl who had anemia, probably ate 600 calories a day, always slept, always threatened suicide, but still somehow wanted to fuck all the time.
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Great thread but have to vehemently disagree with the premise as well as a lot of responses.

I'm not one to count my notches in such an analytical fashion. I don't think I'm quite at 100 bangs but it's up there. In terms of women I've gone on dates with, made out with, etc its definitely a few hundred. I've had probably a dozen mini relationships where I got the chance to know the girl a little better.

Out of all those numbers, only one girl (my ex girlfriend) legitimately had what it takes to make the cut. Another girl put up a good act for a few months so she was capable of it but made a choice to go to the dark side. As a result I've gotten super jaded and exhausted of the game-but nowhere near close to losing my pairbond ability.

I've been seeing a girl recently (without sex) that makes me feel completely different than any other girl except for my ex girlfriend. She's kind, unselfish, conservative, young, and chaste-a stark contrast to the hundreds of women that I've met.

I'll be able to pair bond with her more strongly than my ex girlfriend because of my notch count. My ex girlfriend was early in my game career, so I couldn't appreciate how rare it was to experience pure, feminine love. Now that I've been through the ringer with a million shitty modern beasts, I understand how lucky I am to experience it again.

My current perpetual bachelorhood has nothing to do with my notch count. Pretty much every woman that I've encountered goes blatantly against my values and the values of this forum. It's only made me incredibly appreciative to the ultra-rare women that align with myself.
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The issue you guys seem to be having is that you whore yourself out and sleep with dozens of sluts, then assume ALL women are no good. Then at the same time you want virgin women only.
Where are the values of men today?
You're ruining your ability to bond or even to appreciate a woman fully as you will be carrying baggage.
Alot of you claim to follow god, you all need Jesus
Sleeping around is no way for a man to behave.
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I was wondering when this girl was going to get blocked.
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(02-19-2019 09:34 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  I was wondering when this girl was going to get blocked.

Seems to be some insecure sour grapes middle-aged man from Brighton. Oh well. Slave morality at its finest.
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That's one way to frame being picky because you have more options...
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(02-19-2019 09:34 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  I was wondering when this girl was going to get blocked.

The Jab got countered with The Hook

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You had me thinking I got blocked.
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(01-26-2019 12:45 AM)LatinaLova Wrote:  If your goal is to pump and dump to the 100's and have the potential for it, think twice.

A very high notch count is cool and all but it really fcks you up mentally. Too much variety bores you off EVERY girl very fast, sexually and personality wise. Even higher quality girls get boring, just takes longer.

You can't have a relationship anymore. After the first time, you start losing interest and the boner doesn't get as hard for the repeat. You keep comparing her personality to X, Y and Z and wish she had all those qualities combined.
So you are stuck in this sexual abundance state which has served its purpose long time ago and is becoming more and more meaningless with time. You gotta keep slaying but the more you do, the further you get from a potential "oneitis". The vicious cycle of slaying lol

Anyone else can relate to this?

Anyone managed to settle after a high slay count?

I can totally relate to this. I often have a hard time getting a boner as I'm just used to the standard girls (and I don't get the attractive girls).

However, I had a kick recently, when there was a mid 20 girl who looked at me with big eyes and said "I don't have a lot of experience, please be careful."

I got an immediate boner. That's the delicious stuff I'm looking forward to. Doesn't happen often anymore unfortunately..
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I have a different take on this. Most married men in fact would be frothing at the mouth at the prospect of sleeping w/ a hot 20 year old. They simply don't have the opportunity. Many resort to paying prostitutes, or just powering down their dicks for the rest of their life and living in a state of sexual frustration. Sex with wifey isn't as good after you've been hitting it for 10 years and she's popped out two of your kids. Most men marry b/c: (1) this is the direction mainstream culture pushes them in, this is what is expected of them, (2) it guarantees them sex, as otherwise opportunities are scarce, (3) they want kids, and fear any other arrangement will be tough.

For most men, they marry b/c of a combination of all 3. What game does is take away #2. Given sexual abundance though, settling down w/ one woman makes dramatically less sense. However, many of us do want offspring. And culture is also pushing women toward marriage. And so many people accede to marriage due to (1) and (3). However, of course you are then going to miss all that other poon you were getting. The guy with 5 lifetime notches doesn't miss it b/c he never had it. But, like I said, he is also sexually frustrated, not to the level of a Catholic priest (probably 30% of the frustration), and maybe not to your level, but he would also be banging models if he could.

Mainstream culture doesn't have an alternative to monogamous marriage. For me, I'm contemplating kids outside of marriage, a non-monogamous marriage, or just doing a traditional marriage. Still trying to sort through these issues...
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Exactly @Ceasar there is no "mainstream" alternative and in order to explore that you'd have to personally experience...

My viewpoint stems from a 4 year relationship...

As the typical dude who has little to no personal power, even the handful of men who CAN slay a handful of chicks. Some of those men either have a cultural or actual affinity as you see famous/wealthy/good looking settle in.

However, most of those same people have never experienced true joy peace & happiness where sex was just a destressor...

There was a point in life I was in a club thinking "damn my social/sex life will never be an issue from here on out...Everything after this time period is merely a bonus!! I can die right now"

Then I went into monogashit, when I say dysfunctional. People are in something without ever knowing the benefits BECAUSE there aren't much explorers in that realm...What incentive does some male model actor who's been getting blowjobs from hottest chicks in his college have to think "I need to learn how to optimize my lifestyle"
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The more superficial stuff a man or woman rides on is the less nudging they are aware of to grow their consciousness...

The contrast almost lead me to a blackedout suicide, I felt like I was being punished even going as far as saying "If my ex ever said someone paid her to ruin my life I would not be surprised".

When I say my life collapsed, I vividly seen why the world is why it is. Lots of low quality people. Relationships is for the average consciousness to learn. When you reach a certain point in consciousness development you see little upsides UNLESS you have an affinity for it.

I found monogamy to be a waste of time. I don't want to get into details BUT society is society because of the collective average.

You can have this idealism BUT then look at prostitution revenue annually, look at all the negative sexual news, look at divorce rates, domestic violence and look at the FEW OUTLIERS who DO HAVE AN AFFINITY. While they never go indepth talking about common cons...THEY like a specific animal species catering to their environment have evolved to cater to it.

I tried to evolve into that...However consciousness growth is the most important thing in my life and all monogashit did was cause regression and time to just " waste your life into oblivion".

P.S. It'll be interesting to lurk and see the new issues & topics that comes up when forum CHANGES. As creed & dogma always reveals the truth. All I will say is power, control & manipulation won't lead to growth. Most guys try to control their gf/wife...I've experienced ex trying to control/manipulate. There is nothing loving about it. Majority of monogamy is built on control as I'm sure some frail consciousness dude with some social power created marriage. Men been trying to control and hoard female sexuality only to never truly experience fe.ale sexuality...Were so culturally messed up women don't even understand their own sexuality.

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Yeah most relationships are about control. If she controls you, she loses interest/espect. If you try to control her, she will want to rebel. Either way resentment builds. I see these power plays in literally all couples — young or old, doesn’t matter. Monogamy always has an underlying tension of who is wearing the pants....

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First
Erectile Dysfunction should NEVER be an issue if you are CONSISTENTLY GETTING GREAT SLEEP, taking the right supplements, eating healthy, lifting weights, and doing adequate cardio through out the week.

Second
If you are young, in your 20's you will not have any base for comparison until you have a few "notches", dates and friendships under your belt. You won't know what you like or don't like until you experience multiple women.

Key point
At some point you should recognize "the one" or "the few" that got away. You should recognize which KEY traits a woman must have to make you happy, things you can tolerate, and deal breakers.

Any mature man of intelligence and introspect will find it nearly impossible to discard a woman who possesses traits that make him happy. Any man that does discard a woman with positive traits risks losing out on the happiness a good relationship brings.

Extra
You must be a good man with excellent finances (65k-95k annual), excellent health, excellent social skills, a healthy mental status, a hobby or hobbies, a desire to travel and leave the house a few times a month, and a pleasant personality that makes you easy to be around for hours at a time.

Failure to possess these traits within yourself may lead to unrealized or less than adequate happiness, as well as an inability to recognize a good woman or a healthy relationship (start building your life to match this BLUEPRINT).

Life with or WITHOUT women is boring and mundane. Life with a great woman is much more pleasant and fulfilling (doing boring mundane things is much more fun with a partner). Out of all the hook ups I have had in my life, the women I remember and miss are the women I was in a happy relationship with.

ALL men go through relationship boredom however, boredom is usually a sign that you are lacking personal interests and hobbies.

Monogamy runs in cycles; bad times, Boring times, Fun times and AMAZING life changing experiences. Men who have LOW or HIGH notch counts all experience boredom. Having a high volume of sexual partners should not affect your ability to feel excitement and joy when you meet or become involved with an attractive, single woman with positive traits, ZERO deal breakers and minimal tolerable quirks.

BasketBounce Wrote:Monogamy always has an underlying tension of who is wearing the pants.
This is failure to recognize the traits of a good woman and a healthy relationship, or you yourself have not adhered to the blue print, making you a temporary/replaceable experience (Low Value Man).

Recommendation
If you are a man with bad (poverty) genetics, I highly urge you to build yourself up, starting with fitness, skin care, personality, finances (medical, accounting or specific engineering fields) and FIND A LONG TERM GIRLFRIEND BEFORE 26 !!!

Unfortunately you must fast track your ability to recognize women with good and bad traits. Don't trap yourself with marriage or children and you should enjoy the fruits of a happy relationship at your PEAK level of attractiveness well into your decline and rapid descent into ugliness.

Once those poverty genetics begin to express themselves (balding, health issues, bad skin, anything that makes you look aesthetically unappealing) It will be MUCH harder to find an attractive woman to be your girlfriend let alone keep around as a hookup.

Inferior Game + Inferior Genetics = Incel
Superior Game + Inferior Genetics = Incel

Superior Game + Average Genetics = Beta Bucks
Inferior Game + Superior Genetics = Alpha
Superior Game + Superior Genetics = God mode activated
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(02-08-2019 03:05 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  This thread is retarded, everyone is different...

...Yet most associate sex with their fears & ego...

Distant Light essentially is an oracle who has traveled back in time and possesses information the future.

Probably the best poster on this forum. +1
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Having a high notch count DOES mess you up, however it is a double-edged sword

Lemme get this in before June 1...

My count is officially at 70. To some that's high, to some that's low. Take it as you will. 60 of those lays came in a 7 year span between the ages of 25-32. I'm 33 now. I had 3 LTR's in my life. First one was 16-17, second one was 20-21, last one was when I was 30-31. I was surprisingly faithful in all of those relationships. I currently have a gf, and while she is far and away the best girl I've ever dated and most trad by a country mile, I have fucked around on the side. No brag, just facts. I am a fucking degenerate in a way. What's a man to do?

It messes you up because it does two things to you mainly: you always need to feed your EGO, and you constantly have to have VARIETY.

Ego

It's the THRILL OF THE HUNT. Sure bedding a new and hot girl feels great from a pleasure standpoint, but it's deeper than that. I love the look in their face as I slam my cock into them for the first time. Seeing what their tits look like, what their pussy looks like. It's new and exciting, as if you are conquering a new land. I feel like a Viking or Roman soldier plundering one of the woman folk in a village in a different land. The high alone is EXTREMELY addictive. After you dick down a new chick, you walk different, you carry yourself different, and for the time being you feel INVINCIBLE in a way. Other women pick up on this very quickly as well. Problem is, your ego can never be fully quenched. You will always need to feed it. I find this to be more so true with competitive people who like to kick ass in as many areas of life as humanly possible.

Variety

I love pizza. I'll always love pizza. But sometimes I want steak. Sometimes I want eggs. Sometimes I want ice cream. Variety is the spice of life. We all (or should) eat a fairly balanced diet. While having one great girl who respects you, loves you, and worships the ground you walk on is great, men still need to HUNT. You can have your idea of a perfect 10 who blows you on command, but after a while, even that 10 won't do it for you the way she did at the beginning. It's just natural. The more you sleep around, the more you need to seek out more variety just because it becomes so natural to constantly mix it up. Problem with this is, you might not be able to appreciate something you have that is good because you always feel that in a way there's always something else out there. Doesn't matter if it's better or worse, just the thought alone can screw you up enough. It's no different than a modern woman having her dream guy saying, "is this the best I can get"?

There is however upside to sleeping around a lot. You are smarter with women you enter a LTR with. You screen better. You are wiser. You are sharper. You naturally attract more women because of the confidence that you exude that cannot be faked. In a strange way, you become more well-rounded in life. You understand women more, what attracts them, what repels them, what makes their panties moist. I agree, finding a suitable LTR and one in which you are faithful becomes harder the more notches you have. You become pickier than ever before when it comes to something serious. Hell, a LTR might not even work for you after you've hit a certain number. Sometimes I feel like this and wonder often if I'm even cut out for a LTR.

The guy who doesn't lay or seldom lays is screwed up because he HASN'T got a clue and hell never understand quite how the game works.
The guy who slays with ease is also screwed up because he DOES have a clue. He knows how the game works.

Both guys are screwed up, but I'd rather be the latter guy any day of the week....
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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
I can relate to this sexually, not so much personality wise.

For almost 10 years, my main goal was notch and flag building. I spent lots of time on easy, mediocre girls – only 1-2% would I want to hang out with again.

I think about a variety of previous women when fucking my LTR and I guess this is a result of the high notch count and won’t be easy to change. Maybe it’s a coping method for boredom of the same girl?
Also, she knows I’m on a high notch count, can’t deal with it and is afraid I will want to go back to this.
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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
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Spot on. For me, it's very much about the ego. I don't always necessarily enjoy the sex, but the feeling that you've succeeded in the process of gaming a beautiful girl well and lay her down on the bed is a very satisfying accomplishment. It's like hard work finally paying off. There's a lot of psychology involved behind this shit.

Also, seeing how her attitude and personality changes towards you after you've given her a good fucking and dominated her is night and day difference. She turns into that little girl that will do literally anything for your attention and time. The thrill of the hunt vs the thrill of the pleasure is a real thing. https://blackdragonblog.com/2014/05/11/t...e-sex-men/

Your point about variety is also a big thing. By constantly needing to feed your ego you always try to up your last notch and it gets you to a point where you can't appreciate a girl for what she brings to the table, you will always compare her to your last notch. For me, this is very damaging if you're planning to start an LTR in the future. First of all, you get bored quickly of one girl and second of all your expectations rise too high and you turn very picky. Too much variety is a bad thing in my opinion.

This is how girls on dating apps act nowadays with the endless supply of options they're being fed. You constantly seek the best option out there, which might not necessarily be the best option for YOU, but you're curious and excited to try something new and fun so you go for it. You miss out on the 2nd and 3rd best which had the potential to be your personal best. But you'll never know because your ego is doing all the thinking. This is what fucks up a potential LTR im afraid. Talking from my own experiences.

Quote:In many categories, consumers are primarily ‘Satisficers’ – they opt for the first product they find that they believe will satisfy their needs (including price needs). Satisficers use a ‘take the first‘ rule (heuristic) for shopping – take the first product that meets requirements. To succeed with Satisficers, innovators have to optimise the availability of the new product – on the shelf and in the mind of Satisficers (by advertising) – so that these ‘take the first’ consumers see your innovation first.

‘Maximisers’, on the other hand are consumers who don’t just want their needs satisfied, they want to get the best product and best deal available – they want to maximise value. They work with a ‘take the best‘ shopping rule. So Maximisers conduct an exhaustive and often exhausting search for the best offer available. To succeed with Maximisers, innovators need to ensure their product or service offers the maximum value on the market.

According to Schwartz and extensive research, offering more choice creates a psychological burden that can turn consumers off, because more choice means more time and effort to choose and increased odds that you’ll make the wrong choice and regret it. Schwartz points to the famous ‘Jam Study’ that found that consumers were 10 times more likely to purchase jam from a range of 6 jams, than they were from a range of 24. Less choice, more sales.

So offering more choice to consumers may not always be good – even though more choice should mean more and happier consumers, More choice should mean individual needs will be better satisfied, and more choice should mean an enhanced a sense of autonomy (personal freedom), one of the three core drivers of human wellbeing (along with relatedness and competence). But more choice sometimes backfires – because it’s inconvenient and risky.

This is from the book The Paradox of Choice, by psychologist Barry Schwartz, i can recommend you reading it. If you're not into books, check out his TEDx talk. VERY interesting.



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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
I get what you are saying - but, when you say 'high quality', I would question what you mean

Most guys when they say high quality mean just looks - if that is the case, then sure, you're always going to get bored and not feel any need to stay with the girl

A truly high quality girl should be more than better looking though - she should bring an awesome energy to the relationship, you should be able to laugh with her (she should get your sense of humour and be able to dish a few jokes back), she should respect who you are, she should have decent values and standards, she should have an idea of what is sexy to a man ... she essentially should make life far more enjoyable for you (as you do for her) and you should bring out the best in each other.

Here's the REAL problem ...

Girls that are truly high quality don't grow on trees.

You're already working from a small sample size from the beginning. And then once you meet a girl that is attractive and you share a good vibe with, you've got to start looking at all the logistics side of things to check long term suitability - you've got to want the same things in life (be on the same timeline), she's got to have red flags you can at least manage or work through, her family and friends can't be liabilities to your relationship, she's got to at least be open to red pill type ideas and doing things different from society (and not be addicted to or brought down by Instagram, feminism, socialism, small minded and drama ridden or materialistic people, and so on.)

The more you improve yourself as a man (and as a by product see more women), the more smarter you become about how women work, the world works, money works, how to dress and look better etc - all of this lifts your standards and your bullshit detector gets turned to high when it comes to making major decisions about your life.

So, I'd say this is where you could get ruined - when you control everything in your control, and then the world can't give you what you think you deserve back in terms of the product (yourself) you are putting forward.

This is why guys that reach those highest levels in life (become a top 10% guy) sometimes end up never in a committed relationship - unless they are dying for companionship and a family - it just makes far more sense to stay continually single.

That's no excuse though not to stay productive/healthy, expand your horizons (and see where it leads you), and try and enjoy life and see how you can help yourself and others into the future.

That's been my experience so far.
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