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If your goal is to pump and dump to the 100's and have the potential for it, think twice.

A very high notch count is cool and all but it really fcks you up mentally. Too much variety bores you off EVERY girl very fast, sexually and personality wise. Even higher quality girls get boring, just takes longer.

You can't have a relationship anymore. After the first time, you start losing interest and the boner doesn't get as hard for the repeat. You keep comparing her personality to X, Y and Z and wish she had all those qualities combined.
So you are stuck in this sexual abundance state which has served its purpose long time ago and is becoming more and more meaningless with time. You gotta keep slaying but the more you do, the further you get from a potential "oneitis". The vicious cycle of slaying lol

Anyone else can relate to this?

Anyone managed to settle after a high slay count?
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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
I think we all have those thoughts after being in the game long enough. But it is the frame of 'pump and dump' that is at the the root of your issues with forming rewarding long term relationships. imagine how good you would feel if you helped every girl you banged to to be happier and more fulfilled.

any young player will be well rewarded throughout life practicing relationship building skills along side getting new pussie

sounds like you need a lil break from the game. take two weeks in some remote nature place so you dont let your sex drive take yer power and then come back and pimp hard till you find your xyz and make some babies
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How old are you, OP? Chances are you'll get more and more burnt as you get older and start actively seeking out more genuine relationships. What you're experiencing now are the first growing pains of that process.
01-26-2019 01:40 AM
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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
Build your value and find a purpose first, game second. If I cold-approached 30 girls a day and pump and dumped one every other week I'd get burnt out fast. I've found in downtime its fun to learn new languages, play the piano and find hobbies or interests that I might not have considered before. Im sure you have some right ?

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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
This mentality with the addition of porn really has me worried about the young men coming through the ranks.

Similar damage is being done with young women, and its a dysfunctional society heading for a car crash.
01-26-2019 02:16 AM
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(01-26-2019 12:45 AM)LatinaLova Wrote:  If your goal is to pump and dump to the 100's and have the potential for it, think twice.

A very high notch count is cool and all but it really fcks you up mentally. Too much variety bores you off EVERY girl very fast, sexually and personality wise. Even higher quality girls get boring, just takes longer.

You can't have a relationship anymore. After the first time, you start losing interest and the boner doesn't get as hard for the repeat. You keep comparing her personality to X, Y and Z and wish she had all those qualities combined.
So you are stuck in this sexual abundance state which has served its purpose long time ago and is becoming more and more meaningless with time. You gotta keep slaying but the more you do, the further you get from a potential "oneitis". The vicious cycle of slaying lol

Anyone else can relate to this?

Anyone managed to settle after a high slay count?

Not that I'm there to have proof of this.
But I'm over halfway there and the things I value in women change. I can find a pretty girl to fuck, now it becomes about what else she offers. I like keeping my lays around so she has to bring more than to the table than her holes.
I feel like at that point its not "settling" at all. you pick what you like because you know via experience that you have found a rare bird.

Attraction and passion are non-negotiable
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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
I disagree, I speak as an incel of 29 years.

I have missed out on young girls of 18-25 years old.

I think going without women does far more irreversible damage than having too much of them.

For instance, when I was 21, I was so sexually frustrated and pent up that I got into female autopsies when I was at university.

So instead of having sex with fit young girls of 18-25 years of age, I was scouring the internet for female autopsy videos and pictures.

All I want is to stick my big bent dick into a fit young girl, but at nearly 30 years old it looks like that boat might already have sailed.

I just don't understand how you are supposed to meet women outside of social circle. I have been day gaming for 8 months now but haven't gotten anywhere. It seems all the women around my town have boyfriends when the interaction does go normally but others just brush me off without even stopping.

I also, since I was 18 in 2008, have this innate "creepy" feeling that is hard to shake. I feel like such a predator going after women in this way. I think it's because I have been fantasizing about what I would do with a woman since the age of 13 but never had the chance to actually do it, apart from with prostitutes.

Yes, that's right, I got so desperate at 25 that I didn't want to die or get disabled without having sex, so I went to prostitutes who were 35+ and ugly. It's not what I want though, a fit, young, slim girl with a cute face, between 17-26 would be ideal, but they seem like gold dust in today's society. The whole time I was in that age group, the closest I got to a woman was on a fucking computer screen. How fucked up and tragic is that!?

I have been in trouble in two shopping malls for approaching where the bitches reported me to security and I've also been in trouble at work. All I did was offer them for a coffee.

I just want to have a war on feminism because it bluepilled me when I was 18 and cost me my youth. You are made to feel like you are doing something wrong when you approach a woman. Especially when you are older. That's another thing, I'll never be a young guy with a young girl now, that opportunity is gone forever. I will always be the older guy, with the young girls I am attracted to.

And I will always experience this truncated version of life. Like what I am going through now is what most guys go through at 18, or maybe earlier. It's like I am an 18 year old but in a 30 year old's body.

I got this feeling back in 2008 when I was 18. I feel like there are a lot of frustrated incel guys in my position. It's so unfair. They teach you so much "sex education" but they don't teach frustrated young men like I was in 2008 how to actually meet girls.
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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
I'm only at 50 or so (with 30 coming in the last 3 years) and I also became jaded. I've took a break from it all for a short while to recover my passion.

Tried to quit porn as well but its super fucking hard - down to just once or twice a week at least.
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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
(01-26-2019 04:12 AM)flyinghorse Wrote:  Tried to quit porn as well but its super fucking hard - down to just once or twice a week at least.

At least moderate the TYPE of porn to minimise damage, steer clear of that spitting, choking, slapping anal shit, and look at more normal porn as a compromise.

If you have an LTR that's giving you sex, you shouldn't waste sexual energy on porn, you should be giving it to her.
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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
(01-26-2019 04:22 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  
(01-26-2019 04:12 AM)flyinghorse Wrote:  Tried to quit porn as well but its super fucking hard - down to just once or twice a week at least.

At least moderate the TYPE of porn to minimise damage, steer clear of that spitting, choking, slapping anal shit, and look at more normal porn as a compromise.

If you have an LTR that's giving you sex, you shouldn't waste sexual energy on porn, you should be giving it to her.

Most of the girls I have been with appreciated some weak choking. Was that not the case for you ? Agree with the other areas though, add gangbangs/ cuckold to steer clear of as well.

Ultimately, we should care more about being effective than simply nobly intentioned. It is not enough to dream well: the true measure is what we achieve.
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I'm not gonna lie, reading these forums as an incel is torture.
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(01-26-2019 04:57 AM)incel Wrote:  I'm not gonna lie, reading these forums as an incel is torture.

Most self labeled incels aren't actually incels at all - they're just lazy and haven't put effort into improving themselves.
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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
@incel

I was an 'incel' of 29 years last year. I got laid with 2 women when I was 19, but had a terrible time most of my 20s.

I got my first notch in years last September. It's possible

You are not old. You can have a good sex life in your 30s, and at least up till 45. You can have a solid 15 years in the game.

You just gotta do everything right from now. You probably deep down know what the right things to do are. Like the guy above me said, laziness is a big issue for incels, as it was for me.
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(01-26-2019 04:02 AM)incel Wrote:  I think going without women does far more irreversible damage than having too much of them.

For instance, when I was 21, I was so sexually frustrated and pent up that I got into female autopsies when I was at university.

So instead of having sex with fit young girls of 18-25 years of age, I was scouring the internet for female autopsy videos and pictures.

What in the mother of fuck did I just read...
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(01-26-2019 11:55 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  
(01-26-2019 04:02 AM)incel Wrote:  I think going without women does far more irreversible damage than having too much of them.

For instance, when I was 21, I was so sexually frustrated and pent up that I got into female autopsies when I was at university.

So instead of having sex with fit young girls of 18-25 years of age, I was scouring the internet for female autopsy videos and pictures.

What in the mother of fuck did I just read...

Looks like this guy is back.
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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
Here's the truth: Once you hit 20 or so notches, the curve flattens out, and you stop learning so much from the process. Get to 30 or 40 and you're way, way above the mean, which is commonly put at 7 or 8 for the average American male.

But having a lot of sexual partners doesn't "mess you up" for LTR. I'm at nearly 50 notches and am currently in an LTR with no problem. In fact, one study found that the number of prior sexual relationships has no effect on a man's happiness in an LTR, if he decides to make that commitment.

As a man in his early 40s, I've found that taking a period of time off from chasing poon can help you kill that feeling of anhedonia (lack of pleasure). Then it feels fresh and exciting once you return to the game and find a new girl. Not gonna lie though, it can be intimidating to fuck a new woman after months or even years of monogamy or incel. I was a nervous wreck the night that I got my first new lay in over 7 years but managed to perform better than I'd thought. (I'd been married.)

What I'm saying is that pleasure in sex goes in waves, like so much else in life.

NOW

When a man IS screwed up regarding LTRs, it's usually not because of his adult sexual history. It's usually because of some bad shit that happened when he was a child, often with his mother. Sorry, I know it sounds like pop psychology, but ask any therapist about human pair-bonding and they'll tell you the same. If you didn't bond with your mother, you won't bond with a GF/wife.

ALSO

Remember that females should NEVER be a top priority in your life. Females should be maybe #4, behind career (#1), good relationships with friends and family (#2), and hobbies (#3). The reason I put them there is that women will frequently leave you, no matter who you are, and they'll do so without any good reason at all. (It happened to me in my ex-marriage.) You don't want to be left holding your dick in your hand when it happens. You want a full life without females.

Kinda long post but these are a few of my thoughts.
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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
My notch count is nowhere near 100, not even 50, and i'm fairly young, but even I already feel the same as you OP.

I am skeptical I can even fall in love again. I can ghost any girl I'm with total apathy. I don't care if they fuck other dudes, and I hardly care if they lose interest in me. I remember when I first discovered game - having so much as 2 girls texting me at a time was enough to make me ecstatic. Now it all feels like a chore, and sex feels more like a biological imperative for my sanity than anything else.

I rarely enjoy being around women - maybe only 1/25 date actually ends with a tinge of excitement or happiness (regardless of whether I got laid or not). Sure, some woman are really cool, loyal, and fun to be around, but they're extraordinarily rare - the rest are so boring and annoying that I am starting to lose patience.

I don't think this is entirely due to notch counts. I'm sure there are some blue-pilled guys out there with higher notches than me who still get onetis and attached and obsessed. Once you recognize what the average women does for you (sex, and at best maybe some good company), it's hard not to feel jaded. I have more fun playing video games than being around most women.

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(01-26-2019 02:16 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  This mentality with the addition of porn really has me worried about the young men coming through the ranks.

Similar damage is being done with young women, and its a dysfunctional society heading for a car crash.

I bet if you take any guy who says women are boring and asks him the last time he fapped to porn, the answer would be within the last few days.

For women, it's probably due to all the attention/validation they get from social media, though I'm sure porn is still a problem for them too.

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(01-26-2019 01:38 PM)Batman_ Wrote:  I bet if you take any guy who says women are boring and asks him the last time he fapped to porn, the answer would be within the last few days.

Disagree. Men, especially men over 30, have been making this complaint about women for hundreds, even thousands, of years. It has nothing to do with masturbation or pornography.
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(01-26-2019 01:57 PM)Savonarola Wrote:  
(01-26-2019 01:38 PM)Batman_ Wrote:  I bet if you take any guy who says women are boring and asks him the last time he fapped to porn, the answer would be within the last few days.

Disagree. Men, especially men over 30, have been making this complaint about women for hundreds, even thousands, of years. It has nothing to do with masturbation or pornography.

[citation needed]

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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
(01-26-2019 12:45 AM)LatinaLova Wrote:  A very high notch count is cool and all but it really fcks you up mentally. Too much variety bores you off EVERY girl very fast, sexually and personality wise. Even higher quality girls get boring, just takes longer.

There is certainly truth in this statement in my opinion. I would say its the combination of banging more girls + being red pill (= understanding the nature of women) that causes this boredom.

What is equally true, however, is that men with no experience/blue pill approach with women also suffer - through divorce, being cheated on, not experiencing love and respect from women etc.


I think end game for men who are addicted to novelty and want to settle (probably for the sake of raising children?) is to do it later in life. Your sex drive should be lower by then, and at any event if things become insufferable then you have the life experience and guts to go out on Friday night, enjoy some novelty, then come home a happier man.
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(01-26-2019 02:08 PM)Batman_ Wrote:  
(01-26-2019 01:57 PM)Savonarola Wrote:  
(01-26-2019 01:38 PM)Batman_ Wrote:  I bet if you take any guy who says women are boring and asks him the last time he fapped to porn, the answer would be within the last few days.

Disagree. Men, especially men over 30, have been making this complaint about women for hundreds, even thousands, of years. It has nothing to do with masturbation or pornography.

[citation needed]

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BTW I'm not saying this is right all the time, but it's right some of the time. Enough that we shouldn't forget it.
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I think this has more to do with age. I am 27 years old, with 10 notches (been in a weekend LTR in the last few years) and I can state the the biggest factor so far has just been my age, and the fact that I have a demanding study course and part time work. Having some prime trim is lovely, but I would not lose a good nights sleep over it.

Actually, I'd say that I would prefer a steak dinner, a bottle of aged scotch and a cigar with a good conversation with a mate over a new bang. There is only such much fun an orgasm can provide.
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RE: A high notch count (100's) messes you up
(01-26-2019 01:31 AM)Prince Charming Wrote:  I think we all have those thoughts after being in the game long enough. But it is the frame of 'pump and dump' that is at the the root of your issues with forming rewarding long term relationships. imagine how good you would feel if you helped every girl you banged to to be happier and more fulfilled.

any young player will be well rewarded throughout life practicing relationship building skills along side getting new pussie

sounds like you need a lil break from the game. take two weeks in some remote nature place so you dont let your sex drive take yer power and then come back and pimp hard till you find your xyz and make some babies

Well said I'm all about enriching these bitches lives. Not in it to use and abuse them. I really enjoy the presence of a cool attractive woman so why would i dog the fuck out of her.
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Better to be messed up than boring!
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