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RE: Medellin Xmas 2018 Data Sheet
(01-29-2019 08:49 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  11PM – Club Gusto (Me mucho gusto!)

Approach 2 : Yolana (9) short skirt high heels. She comes and sits and the bar. Sexy revealing white top, black hair, black eyes. I go to approach her but she walks away at that moment. When she comes back from wherever she went, I motion with a finger for her to come to me. She sits down at a chair next to me. Talk about where I am from, she is impressed with Estados Unidos. She is a cosmetology student. And the second girl I meet is from Bello. We talk, order her a cocktail. Dance for about 30 minutes. Lots of grinding and kino. Go for kiss – no resistance. Make out, touch her legs, slap her ass. More drinks, more kino for another 20 minutes, I say “te quiero,” pay the bill and start walking out. In big contrast to the security at American clubs, where I go kicked out and beat up by a bouncer for slapping a girl's ass who was grinding on me, the guard after checking us on the exit - tells me to slap Yolana's ass) Go to Hotel Lleras, pay 96 thousand pesos for the motel. Bang with condom, as I enter her, I say “Feliz Navidad.”

You did good. I was under the impression the Gustos was a hooker bar from stuff I've seen on the Net but apparently not judging from your report.
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(01-29-2019 08:49 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  9AM At breakfast finally meet another traveler from USA with the same card that I have. He used an app for it to notify security but he was in Bogota before hand. I look at it and know that I did the same exact thing through the website. He is not too interested in game – which is a common theme I noticed. Some French guys arrive, one of whom is former military and actually has a work visa to Colombia to help out a farmer – loves his weed.

So from your experience, competition is not fierce among gringos, what about locals ? Are they interested in gaming and as aggressive in game similar to Brazilians ?

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(01-29-2019 06:48 PM)SaintLaurentJake Wrote:  
(01-29-2019 08:49 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  9AM At breakfast finally meet another traveler from USA with the same card that I have. He used an app for it to notify security but he was in Bogota before hand. I look at it and know that I did the same exact thing through the website. He is not too interested in game – which is a common theme I noticed. Some French guys arrive, one of whom is former military and actually has a work visa to Colombia to help out a farmer – loves his weed.

So from your experience, competition is not fierce among gringos, what about locals ? Are they interested in gaming and as aggressive in game similar to Brazilians ?

Did not meet any locals who were doing the same thing as me as I did not witness any day game approaches. One of the Colombian guys working at the hostel with a motor bike had a 7 for a girlfriend. On the metro, saw many local guys with a girl below their sexual market value.

However, locals definitely got night game/social circle game. On Setanta Carrera - saw good dance game from locals, even older men. In Parque Lleras, saw good approaching at the bar as a group of men approached the girls at the Club Gusto bar that I was observing and persisted to keep chatting even with the girls after I had left.

While walking the streets in the afternoon Aguacatala and Poblada- saw many couples making out, girls usually above a 6.

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RE: Medellin Xmas 2018 Data Sheet
The internet does show gusto bar as a hooker bar, my guess is there are probably some hookers there and people that review have a bad experience... you just have to know which ones to approach and you can kind of tell if the girl is a hooker too
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(01-29-2019 01:54 PM)scotian Wrote:  "7PM put on nice shoes and take metro to El Estadio. As I walk Le Setanta avenue – notice about half the clubs being open. Sit down in an outdoor bar, get a sandwich and G&T to was it down. Watch a repeat of the Real Madrid vs Liverpool Champions League final. Do not see anyone approachable and clubs are way too loud. Especially the one with loud music. Only see some 6s here and there dancing. Regret not bringing ear plugs. Decide to go back to El Poblado."

This is example of too much information and detail that nobody gives a shit about, instead of mentioning that you put on nice shoes and watched a gay ass soccer game, why didn't you mention the name of the bar that you went to.
-The name of the Bar where I sat and watched the game on Christmas was called "El Chaparral de la 70" - it had good burgers too.
-The name of the club with loud live music and some 6s is called "Salsarengue: Musica Crossover"
2 days later (27Dec)
-"Discotek Conabrava "was where I venue changed with the Venezuelan Girl to go dancing and drinking with

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01-30-2019 03:34 AM
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I read the whole thing, rare for such a long post, but you formatted it well. There was some excess unimportant detail, but some of it was pretty funny.

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(01-29-2019 08:49 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  Took a bus from the airport and we got stuck in a jam right over the city – had a beautiful view. When we arrived in the center by the Botero museum, the passengers were negotiating the price with the driver. Outside, a the streets were bustling with vendors, music and lots of holiday shoppers. Even saw a young man stealing some kind of long rod from a mall with security in hot pursuit – welcome to Medellin indeed. I pay the 50 thousand pesos for the ride and ask the man sitting next to me to help me buy a Metro card.

This report started off bizarre and kept it going all the way through.

Colombia has been called the land of magical realism. I have no doubt that these events actually could have happened.

That said, the story about the bus ride makes no sense. I don't think they were negotiating the price. More likely, they were just figuring out if the guy could make change.

Worth noting is that the bus ride costs right around 10k. Not 50k like you said you paid.

How do you even negotiate the price on something you already consumed, anyway? Like a bus ride you already took, or a restaurant meal you already ate.

- I can give you 5k
- That's not enough, need you to give me 15k for the bus ride
- Nope, 7k and that's my final offer

Huh
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You are probably right that it was an issue with change. I can imagine the bus driver trying to pocket money by charging more for unauthorized stops or maybe tips?
One time in Russia, I had a taxi driver at an airport try to get extra cash out of me for waiting in a traffic jam and would not open the luggage compartment till I did.

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The prepago you banged is friends with the taxi driver and not only did you get ripped off but they also got your phone on top of that? for 300k you should be able to hire a taxi driver to be your personal chauffeur and drive you around the entire vacation. That's how much a taxi driver earns in a week at most.
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^Dude taxis make way more just by ripping off gringos, you guys meeting up with Tinder hood rats are crazy

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(01-29-2019 02:38 PM)scotian Wrote:  
(01-29-2019 02:13 PM)Philosopher Wrote:  Yes, that she called for it on her phone and she seemed to be friendly with the taxi dudes.

So the girl called her taxi friend and said "hey I have this sucker with me, let's take him for a ride" you're lucky you didn't catch a paseo millionario, 130K is a cheap lesson dude.

No kidding...I was in Medellin last month and two visiting professors got drugged and murdered in separate cases (probable overdose on escopalamine/roofies) hanging out with women they just met. Not to be a scaremongerer---I had a great time---but there's a different level of violence that can happen in Medellin than what you may be used to back home. In particular a rash of drugging/robbery involving chicas in Medellin and Bogota right now, it seems
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Quite a trip - are you going back?
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(01-30-2019 08:01 PM)lunchmoney Wrote:  Quite a trip - are you going back?

Very likely since still keeping in touch with Yuli (3rd bang), and if I do, it will be for longer - maybe rent an apartment or volunteer at a hostel. Also, a wing man will be invaluable for breaking up groups of girls.

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(01-29-2019 08:49 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  11PM – Club Gusto (Me mucho gusto!)

Do you realize that Gusto is a prostitute club. 100% of the girls in there are prostitutes. They're all super hot and friendly, but you have to pay for them.
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(02-10-2019 07:48 PM)travolta Wrote:  
(01-29-2019 08:49 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  11PM – Club Gusto (Me mucho gusto!)

Do you realize that Gusto is a prostitute club. 100% of the girls in there are prostitutes. They're all super hot and friendly, but you have to pay for them.

That's what I thought too. I was talking to another guy from the forum that said it was obvious he paid for a hooker and I didn't realize it. He never specified or clarified so that may be true. To each his own.
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A buddy of mine is traveling in Medellin for 2 weeks and he took me to Gusto (I'm not big into pros, but sometimes it can be great fun if you're with the right group of friends). I was blown away by how hot the girls were, but it's obviously not normal for a bunch of 9's to be all over you and touchy feely for no reason. Any normal girl who walked into that place would immediately realize all girls are prostitutes. I don't believe any non-working, single woman would enter that place unless she went with a group of her guy friends (and in that case her guy friends would be very protective of random whore-mongering guys trying to pick her up), or if she happened to be friends with a bunch of prostitutes (in that case there's a 99% chance she's also a pro).

This isn't very important of course, I'm just trying to add some accuracy so somebody reading this doesn't go into Gusto with false expectations.
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Where is gusto exactly?
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(02-11-2019 06:48 PM)tomtud Wrote:  Where is gusto exactly?




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(02-10-2019 07:48 PM)travolta Wrote:  Do you realize that Gusto is a prostitute club. 100% of the girls in there are prostitutes. They're all super hot and friendly, but you have to pay for them.

(02-11-2019 06:48 PM)tomtud Wrote:  Where is gusto exactly?

   
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Very funny,,,,but thanks for the video jaymillz. Yeah, I think I’ve been there,,,,it’s on the second floor overlooking the park. Didn’t notice any pros as I was with a girl and was occupied.

I’ve noticed working girls in the habana bar on the corner who are sitting alone. As I get older, I prefer heading out to envigado and parque sabaneta. Less likely I’ll run into pros.
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^^ Gusto overlooks lleras. But I think its more like the 4th or 5th floor of a larger building. You'll see the lights from the main street. Lots of pros there.

I was there with another RVFer and saw a backpacker take over about 10 square feet of dance floor for a solid 15 minutes. He must have been on some sort of acid trip. The whole situation was strange, him dancing all over the place aggressively and the Colombians looking on in bewilderment. I was wondering how the Colombians didn't smack the guy down. I wanted to knock him out myself for making westerners look like total faggot fools. Fucking Mochilleros. I guess that's what you get for going to Lleras

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So I'm sitting in Reo Negro airport about to leave right now. I got lost at the taxi price. A local told me a taxi should be around 25k a hour driving around the city. I went to Guatape and Hacienda Noples and paid not too much more than you. Hacienda Noples was a 2 in a half hour drive out of the city.....
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I've spent over a year in Medellin.

I skimmed your post very rapidly but you definitely paid too much for all your rides, and gusto indeed is crawling w/ hooks. I go there very occasionally for the music, but I get the feeling the normal girls would feel uncomfortable there w/ so many hooks around. I tend to avoid going out Sun-Wed in lleras besides dinner. The line is indeed blurry. I've had times where I thought friends and I were meeting normal girls, and at the last sec at the crib they find the balls to ask for money, possibly bc that was an occasion where I was rolling deep w/ US friends who all were obviously just visiting a couple days, trying to have a good time. Conversely, there are times where a hook will treat you normal, not asking for money up front, if she thinks there's other ways to take advantage of you. If she finds no other avenues to rip u off, then perhaps you get asked for dough at that point. Usually I'm decent at figuring it out pretty early now, doe. Very few hooks will be super-obvious upfront. Once you've been there awhile u get a feel for it.

I've met dozens of girls randomly doing normal activities like mall shopping, ciclovia in el estadio, off the street not in lleras, wherever, that end up coming up w/ BS stories (pay for my taxi/refuses uber bc she's not actually as far away as she claims; pay for my babysitter; can I bring a friend/cousin?) to suck money out of u (marranear) just b/c ur gringo, even if ur almost-fluent in spanish like me and make it clear you've been there a long time and EVEN have told her stories of other chicks you've rejected for "marraneando." They just never stop tryna suck money outta u there. I've literally rejected over 80% of girls I've met in normal ways for either marraneando, being flakey, or denying the reality of something that happened. I tend to stick with the few reliable "good" girls and take a risk on someone new just every once in awhile, and with a very very short leash.

In the fall, I got date-rape drugged and robbed (first time robbed in my life of chicago, NY, miami living, years of latin american travels). I hadn't gone out dancing in months and let my guard down. I still remember the faces of the girls who did it and I will see them again one day. I wonder if the same girls OD'd the professors in december.

FYI, a "money, drugs, rock and roll" line will turn off a small segment of the "good" girls in medellin. But if you're there a short time, doesn't matter. I personally would never say that since I'm tryna be there awhile and attract the right crowd.
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(02-14-2019 04:06 PM)LoveLove Wrote:  In the fall, I got date-rape drugged and robbed (first time robbed in my life of chicago, NY, miami living, years of latin american travels). I hadn't gone out dancing in months and let my guard down.

Out of curiosity, how did you let your guard down? What would you do differently? Did you fail to watch your drinks?

Consider this is a teachable moment for the rest of us.
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Yeah please let us know, also where else have you been in latin America and have not had any issues with being drugged? I enjoy nightlife and drinking and Colombia overall is probably the worst country to go out and drink in. I heard good things about Panama City, Santo Domingo DR, Mexico City, and Lima Peru in regards to overall safety going out. Otherwise may be best to stick to Cancun, Playa Del Carmen, Miami, Punta Cana and other "vacation" spots since you don't have to worry about the criminals and Drugs as much but that can pertain more to Colombia and not all of Latin America.
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