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(02-15-2019 09:18 PM)bk19xsa Wrote:  @the wire I sort of agree that porn does allow males to release pent up sexual energy. I would just question your premise from the perspective of countries in the Middle East where porn is illegal and also restricted on the internet (at least they officially block it and people have to use VPNs to access make the access a little more difficult). You don't hear incles going cuckoo in those countries and doing mass shootings even though there is probably more sexual repression there than in the US. Also prostitution in countries such as Saudi Arabia is banned and almost non existent.

It's comparing apples to oranges. Sure if a society is a male dominated one where women are treated like property then things are different and because closer to a state of nature. Islam heavily favors men where men can have up to four wives. We don't live in the middle east. We live in a place were a women almost won the presidency a couple years ago and women don't need men for survival.


Quote:Ultimately, porn is a form of sexual liberation and therefore does bring degeneracy with it. There is a reason why nudity and fornication is a big sin in most religions. It destroys society. Hence, porn might be good in the short term. In the long term I believe its harmful.


Religion frowns upon a lot of what guys on this forum practice. Is religion big on day gaming girls and fucking them that night? Christianity pushes the idea of monogamy which in its roots guarantees a mate. Historically this worked but todays world its completely watered down with government handouts, women in the work force resulting in high divorce rates since men are not a needed.
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(02-16-2019 07:57 AM)Teedub Wrote:  Girls Do Porn had some of the hottest 'normal' girls I've ever seen, so this doesn't surprise me. I've actually had some semi-hate wanks over the girls when they say how much they love their boyfriends, only minutes later to get absolutely pounded on camera.

It's actually quite black pilling how many of the girls have boyfriends but can't resist the cash (thinking they'd never be caught, of course). Really makes you wonder what girls are like when given complete anonymity regarding sexcapades.

It's very depressing to see these young girls debase themselves for cash, thrills and attention/fame.

Imagine that's your daughter.

Imagine what your sweet little innocent LTR has done in the past...

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(02-16-2019 07:57 AM)Teedub Wrote:  It's actually quite black pilling..
Yep. Better to learn a bit sooner than later, though.

(02-16-2019 07:57 AM)Teedub Wrote:  ...Really makes you wonder what girls are like when given complete anonymity regarding sexcapades.

I wish I could say it makes me wonder, but the nature of women isn't any different than when Eve took a bite of the apple. Collapsing social conventions abetted by technology means they can get away with more nowadays - usually.

The entire basis for this lawsuit was the unexpected surprise that they didn't get to have their cake (the money) and eat it too (anonymity).

Just imagine what the average thot does on a regular basis without lights, camera and contracts she doesn't bother reading.

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(02-12-2019 07:05 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  Yeah, well, if they lose it won't be because the judge feels sympathy. This isn't a sexual assault case, it's a contract case. Nobody is going to jail and even monetary awards are doubtful since the company is declaring bankruptcy. Since the bulk of the case is about what shortcomings in pay (peanuts) and punitive damages (most of the monetary claim), this thing is dead before it even starts, in terms of remedies.

You forget that Cali-pornia is the same place that produces the industry itself. They supposedly sympathetic courts and legislators don't even legally require STD testing of, the uh... "actors" (prostitutes). Barring adequate, admissible evidence of unconscionable conduct on the part of the defendants, it's going nowhere.


And now they are indicted on federal sex trafficking charges with two locked up and the owner fled the country. Like I said earlier the law is usually the law whatever a judge says the law is and contracts don't mean crap in these type of cases. This went from a 3 year civil suit to federal court.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/new...rafficking


"The three men are charged with three counts of sex trafficking by force, threats, fraud or coercion, involving separate victims in 2013 and 2015, and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking. Moser is charged with conspiracy. They each face up to life in prison and a $250,000 fine if convicted."
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Holy shit, that’s escalated. Sex trafficking?? Not exactly the same league as some Romanian girl being taken from her village and then locked up or sold to a paki for £10k as happened in Glasgow recently.

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(10-11-2019 04:09 PM)roberto Wrote:  Holy shit, that’s escalated. Sex trafficking?? Not exactly the same league as some Romanian girl being taken from her village and then locked up or sold to a paki for £10k as happened in Glasgow recently.




People often underestimate how contracts are actually enforced and the slew of charges that can creep up on you if the law wants to really nail you to the coffin. They've nailed guys in porn on serious racketeering charges that where meant for organize crime just because they figured out how to cleverly nail them on certain things that were in that statute. Think about it. You're running a porn website in a state where porn has no legal status. All of sudden you are charged with prostitution. Next they find out someone was doing drugs on set. Then it's some money laundering and now you got racketeering activity and violating RICO.
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The whole issue essentially boils down to girls not being able to make mature decisions about contracts, regardless of their age. They need a father/husband to decide that for them. Our contract law goes back to the Roman Empire, but I doubt there were many women signing contracts back then.

This is again another example of how "equality" doesn't work in practice, and often creates victims.

It's also weird that people considered not being old enough to sign a marriage certificate in some places can appear in a porn movie...
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I remember reading about one of these girls. Remember those "hyper-feminine" sorority rush videos that went viral a few years ago? Well, one of the girls had a bit of a coke problem that she started banging her dealer to support. When he got tired of her, she turned to escorting and a GDP shoot. She claims they told her the video was for a private collection and wouldn't be distributed publicly even though the contract clearly says otherwise.

Women will say anything and tell any lie to escape blame when their behavior is made public.
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(10-11-2019 06:07 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  I remember reading about one of these girls. Remember those "hyper-feminine" sorority rush videos that went viral a few years ago? Well, one of the girls had a bit of a coke problem that she started banging her dealer to support. When he got tired of her, she turned to escorting and a GDP shoot. She claims they told her the video was for a private collection and wouldn't be distributed publicly even though the contract clearly says otherwise.

Women will say anything and tell any lie to escape blame when their behavior is made public.

I agree that the claims are a bunch of nonsense. You make a professional porn video(where you sign a contract) and honestly believe that it will not be put up on the internet? No one is that stupid. The argument that they were stiffed on how much they were supposed to be paid is semi-believable, but then again, if you willingly sell yourself for sex you can't claim the moral high ground also.

This story is 100% about female regret after the fact and the sting of public shaming when exposed.
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(10-11-2019 06:23 PM)Dirtyblueshirt Wrote:  
(10-11-2019 06:07 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  I remember reading about one of these girls. Remember those "hyper-feminine" sorority rush videos that went viral a few years ago? Well, one of the girls had a bit of a coke problem that she started banging her dealer to support. When he got tired of her, she turned to escorting and a GDP shoot. She claims they told her the video was for a private collection and wouldn't be distributed publicly even though the contract clearly says otherwise.

Women will say anything and tell any lie to escape blame when their behavior is made public.

I agree that the claims are a bunch of nonsense. You make a professional porn video(where you sign a contract) and honestly believe that it will not be put up on the internet? No one is that stupid. The argument that they were stiffed on how much they were supposed to be paid is semi-believable, but then again, if you willingly sell yourself for sex you can't claim the moral high ground also.

This story is 100% about female regret after the fact and the sting of public shaming when exposed.

Guys, we are talking about women here. You know the kind of humans you can get to do stupid stuff with something called "game".

As I wrote already it's all about female agency in the end and what they made you believe about it.
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This sure escalated quickly. I can't help but find it amusing that you have all these porn videos where the actresses are pretending to be girls next door who get talked into having sex on camera, and yet here this was actually the case (supposedly).

I can't comment on the legal aspects, but I find myself wondering what all the plaintiffs in this case are doing now. These reports are always a little coy about that thing (see also Mia Khalifa talking about how little she earned in her short-lived career). Are they otherwise wholesome (or at least normal) girls who have had their lives ruined by one mistake? Or are they still doing "modelling" as a career? Lots of whores who are upset they didn't get paid enough.

Another thing I wonder is to what extent these guys had their snouts in the trough of porn. Were they on the inside of the industry, or were they operating on their own and are they being punished for that now? I'm sure the rest of the porn industry is run along very ethical lines and they never do booze and drugs on set...
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Their ability to land so many girl next door types makes me feel like the rumors about them lying about the distribution are likely true. A “normal” porn operation would have the girls tested and such, but it appears these guys rushed them to San Diego and banged them in hotels as fast as possible. The girls in these videos have a certain smile on their face that says they think they are having their cake and eating too (money and validation of porn without the social stigma). Most of the girls are also clearly into the male talent, and have a very subservient demeanor with them. Just goes to show how women lose agency in the hands of dominate alpha males. I think most left with a grin on their face, and money for a new designer handbag, but are more than happy to play up a victim narrative once it becomes apparent they completely fucked up getting paid a few grand for videos that will be seen by millions of men for years to come. I do feel sorry dor naive young women that fall for this, but at the same time, if you thought it was a good idea to take the word of some tatted thugs with burner phones, you probably were going to fuck up your life one way or another.
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My speculation on this:

As we all know, porn is not profitable. They have links to a Mexican cartel. https://www.nbcsandiego.com/investigatio...21931.html
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/S...15211.html

So I'm guessing this is just a "reward" to the Mexican guy/s from the cartel- he gets to fuck all sorts of pretty, mostly white girls and plaster it all over the internet to see. The guys also get to LARP as attractive, high status people. (It also explains why this particular studio made it big, while many other "indie" studios don't)

I do wonder how they get the girls though. My suspicion is most of the girls were gotten through mostly legitimate, maybe mildly coercive/manipulative means, however at least a dozen or couple dozen were really shady, almost rape level(blocking doors/preventing escape/refusing to pay for flights). Which explains the duality- they've done a lot of girls and a lot of them seem either enthusiastic or whorey, while some girls don't seem to want to be there and/or "too innocent" for porn.
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(10-11-2019 05:49 PM)wwtl Wrote:  It's also weird that people considered not being old enough to sign a marriage certificate in some places can appear in a porn movie...

The exact opposite is true - you can get married in some US states as young as 15, but the federal age for porn "acting" is 18. It's worth noting there's no allegations of anything underage going on or it'd be case closed.

What might cook their goose on the criminal charges is the bit about threats. If the guys were dumb enough to put that into some kind of messaging, coupled with a "commercial sex act" it could result in sex trafficking convictions. The federal law doesn't have to involve underage people, physical abuse or confinement. That said, my guess is the defendants will take a plea to any lesser charge without the word "sex" in it (garden variety extortion, etc.). If that happens, the monetary ambitions of lawyers in the civil suits are hindered:

Quote:Their civil trial, which began in August, was suspended Thursday when word of the federal arrests reached the Superior Court trial judge. He ordered attorneys to return on Tuesday to discuss the next steps. Defense lawyers said they want the civil case on hold until the criminal case is resolved, but the plaintiffs’ attorneys object to that delay.

No sex offense convictions make a "sex-slave theory" lawsuit less convincing to a jury and belie the transactional nature of all participants. Plaintiff attorneys don't want to take that risk, or the even bigger disappointment if the defendants go to trial and are found not guilty.

$17 million in revenue - holy crap, that's a lot of incels footing the bill.

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(10-11-2019 06:23 PM)Dirtyblueshirt Wrote:  
(10-11-2019 06:07 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  I remember reading about one of these girls. Remember those "hyper-feminine" sorority rush videos that went viral a few years ago? Well, one of the girls had a bit of a coke problem that she started banging her dealer to support. When he got tired of her, she turned to escorting and a GDP shoot. She claims they told her the video was for a private collection and wouldn't be distributed publicly even though the contract clearly says otherwise.

Women will say anything and tell any lie to escape blame when their behavior is made public.

I agree that the claims are a bunch of nonsense. You make a professional porn video(where you sign a contract) and honestly believe that it will not be put up on the internet? No one is that stupid. The argument that they were stiffed on how much they were supposed to be paid is semi-believable, but then again, if you willingly sell yourself for sex you can't claim the moral high ground also.

This story is 100% about female regret after the fact and the sting of public shaming when exposed.

Let's just say -- for argument's sake -- that a girl did believe the porn she did somehow wouldn't hit the Internet.

At some point before shooting 1). She'd Google that or 2). A friend or ten would tell her she's wrong.

This is the Internet age. People look up everything. People will read 50 Yelp reviews before trying a new restaurant. Does anyone really think a girl wouldn't do at least some research before blowing a guy on camera?

The liberal lie about people "not having access to Google" can't be used here. 99 percent of girls that age have smart phones and even if they didn't, every public library has computers.

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The other thing that's not being addressed here is that girls who do porn usually do a lot of other things in the sex industry and use porn to up their value. I wonder how many of these girls were on Seeking Arrangement or worked as strippers and did porn to raise their rates in those realms?

The defense in this case should research that, but I'll bet the judge wouldn't allow it as evidence.

From what I've read (and heard first-hand), this is the business plan for these girls. It's called cross-marketing.
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(10-13-2019 03:38 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  This is the Internet age. People look up everything. People will read 50 Yelp reviews before trying a new restaurant. Does anyone really think a girl wouldn't do at least some research before blowing a guy on camera?

The liberal lie about people "not having access to Google" can't be used here. 99 percent of girls that age have smart phones and even if they didn't, every public library has computers.

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The other thing that's not being addressed here is that girls who do porn usually do a lot of other things in the sex industry and use porn to up their value. I wonder how many of these girls were on Seeking Arrangement or worked as strippers and did porn to raise their rates in those realms?

The defense in this case should research that, but I'll bet the judge wouldn't allow it as evidence.

From what I've read (and heard first-hand), this is the business plan for these girls. It's called cross-marketing.

This is where I think their civil case will fall apart. The defense will have a right to cross examine any witnesses called. Even if the defense counsel isn't allowed to ask her about other sex work (which he may be allowed to do - rape shield laws don't apply here), he can tease out the truth easily enough with some basic questions. They would be structured, but here are a few:

Do you have a smart phone?
Do you know how to use Google?
Have you ever used Google to find information?
Where did you learn about these men?
Where did you find their solicitation for models?
Was that the only time you ever read the Craigslist ads?
Did you ask any friends about these guys before you accepted their offer?


If the defense has info about other sex work they'd be foolish not to hang onto that for possible impeachment of the witness:

Have you ever accepted gifts or money for sexual performances before?
"Uh, no..."
Do you recognize this photo?
"Uh..."
Is that you?
....ymmmffff....
Is that a yes?
"....yes."
Where was it posted?
"...sekigmmmm argmmfff...."
Where?
"Seeking Arrangement.... <boohoohooohooo>....!"

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