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Let's get into this serious now
About a year ago, I made a thread that seemed like borderline trolling but that actually was honestly true (I'm actually reading it again, sad that I didn't make any progress whatsoever)

This will be another thread like that. Be as brutally honest as you can. I can take it.
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Sooooo, there's another girl I really liked, she's from Costa Rica. We met in Puebla, Mexico on New Year. There was an instant connection, but like the pussy I am I didn't take action. Even didn't started to kiss her until a mutual guy friend called me out on it. ''Dude, have you kissed her already'', ''noo man, I am waiting for the right moment, do you think she likes me too'', ''yeah bro, it's super obvious''.

Anyway long story short, I kissed her in Mexico City. I was IN HER ROOM the last night before she was going back to Costa Rica. Last night I could've had sex, but being inexperienced and overthinking I didn't do anything. This would be the perfect time since she flew back the next day and this was her first time in a foreign country.

In the last thread, one year ago I told I didn't had sex for 3 years. That was a lie, it's actually 3 years and 2 months RIGHT NOW. Nothing to be proud of , but nothing to cry about either haha. At this point, the mental sabotage is sky high! Couldn't have sex even if I wanted too. Note that I am still in Mexico, as a tall blue-eyed guy, average looks I do get a lot of opportunities (not like in Colombia, but still), but usually I don't care. I don't want to fuck just any girl, and I still don't (after this long ''losing'' streak) but with this girl, I REALLY DID CARE. But yeah I ruined it..

At one point, after we made out and kissed a bit in her room, she asked me ''what are you thinking about'', I said ''nothing'', she insisted and got a bit angry.

I was thinking about having sex, and that it has been 3 year... She wouldn't talk to me until I said it. I told her the truth (no regrets here, it's the truth and it's part of who I am, not going to fuck my values just to fuck a girl haha). She's pretty inexperienced/shy herself, but I could tell she was VERY surprised when I told her how much experience I had with girls. At that point, she didn't seem to mind that much, but safe to say the mood was ruined.

We didn't had sex that night, but the next day she told me I should go to Costa Rica, and we can travel together in April, and that she was sad I didn't stayed with her that night... Anyway, so far 2 months have passed, we did a lot of whatsapp and video talks the first 2-3 weeks, but contact has a bit faded away. Can't really blame her, might be even coming off as a stalker at this point. The opportunity is lost. If I wanted her to wait for me 3 months, I should probably have had sex...

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Still pretty devasted about this, there's not really a lot of girls I instantly like like this, and then I just blew it. One year ago, now, different girl, same story.

This is the only thing in life I truly miss and regret. Sooo much missed opportunity. I don't mind missing an opportunity with a slut or pig, but once in a while I meet a girl I like and I fuck it up.

I got all the other stuff in life figured out. Got 3 remote jobs (a lot of work, starting to move over to passive income), so I'll probably still go to Costa Rica (probably not for that girl, but probably more for the ''pura vida'' lifestyle. I like girls that are just HAPPY with their life, and have a sense of humor. Might find it there).

That girl in particular wasn't really special, but she's always happy! It makes me happy as well, just to be around her. Maybe I can find other ticas like her.

I stopped drinking alcohol, got back into running, have my financials in order and can work from anywhere. I am pretty social/fun guy, a bit dorky. Girls call me cute very often.

Anyway any advice moving forward would be truly appreciated. Like I said everything I got figured out except being good with girls. I could be the most beta-guy on this forum by now (please don't ban me Roosh haha).

A response like ''not sure you can be helped at this point'' is very understandable, but not really helpful. I am turning 29 in May. Got work/money figured out, time to start this journey! I feel like I missed out with girls, A LOT. Late 20's, early 30 could be good for me if done right.

Thanks!
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02-14-2019 01:22 AM
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RE: Let's get into this serious now
The big picture gathered from your story is your skills with women are behind where they should be at your age. Understandable if you've been building wealth full time.

However, if you want to get better, there's no magic bullet, you need to approach and have interactions with women. Dozens of women. Make a great profile and hop on a few dating sites. Go out at night to bars or clubs and start approaching. Talk to cute girls during the day while going about your business.

You need to reincorporate women into your life, as it sounds like you've completely pushed them out. You said nothing's changed in a year; that's entirely your fault, your responsibility. The good news is that also means you have the power to change it, but only by getting out in the real world and taking action.

As to specifics in your story, some points:
1. There's rarely a "right moment." At best, when you're with a girl you'll sometimes get a gut feeling to do something, like go in for the kiss, or pick her up and put her in your lap, whatever. But don't count on it. Kiss her when you want to, and if she gives resistance, back off and try again later.

2. You're way overthinking things and way too in your head in the moment- when you're alone with a girl in her room, just assume she wants to fuck you and proceed accordingly. Every time. She'll stop you at any point if she's uncomfortable. There should be zero concern for your past, when you're seducing a girl, be in the zone.

3. "what are you thinking about?"- She is giving you free reign to say whatever you want. You can make a joke, say something about her, there's limitless possibilities. Replying "nothing" is very drab and dull, and also closing yourself off to her. Hence she got upset when she persisted and you didn't give her anything. When girls ask me something like this, i either reply with something silly or something sexual. "Why are there so many gnats in the world. I hate them, don't you?". "I was wondering why this isn't on the floor. (point to article of clothing still on her, proceed to remove)." "I'm thinking of something very exciting, but I can only show you. (beckon her to come close to you, tease her about not being close enough a few times, then kiss her and escalate)."

4. I told her the truth (no regrets here, it's the truth and it's part of who I am, not going to fuck my values just to fuck a girl haha).- gay. This is male rationalization at work. What you really wanted from her in that moment was to fuck the shit out of her, but you tucked your dick between your legs, so now you rationalize your mistake under the guise of "i'm such a great guy i was sooo honest and didn't compromise muh values". No. You pussed out in the moment of truth- learn from it and move forward.
02-14-2019 10:28 AM
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RE: Let's get into this serious now
^^^^This is all the advice you need.
02-14-2019 11:15 AM
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RE: Let's get into this serious now
(02-14-2019 10:28 AM)KeepMovingForward Wrote:  However, if you want to get better, there's no magic bullet, you need to approach and have interactions with women. Dozens of women. Make a great profile and hop on a few dating sites. Go out at night to bars or clubs and start approaching. Talk to cute girls during the day while going about your business.

Day game is what I probably want to learn the most. Probably because it's the least competitive, since all guys are afraid in approaching. Any tips on that? I guess I need to find a male friend and make a game out of it.

I will start using Tinder as well when I am moving to Guatemala. Never really used it too serious. I don't really want to spend to much time on pc/phone, since I am already doing 12 hour/days for work more often than not.

(02-14-2019 10:28 AM)KeepMovingForward Wrote:  the power to change it, but only by getting out in the real world and taking action.
Any advice, rather than just take action? I need like some steps, literally never approached a girl in the park with that intention. I do talk a lot, but usually it's out of curiosity like ''what book are you reading''.

Yeah, so far I am overthinking it a lot. I need to chill the f*ck out. My best friends tell me the same. Easier said than done.

(02-14-2019 10:28 AM)KeepMovingForward Wrote:  "what are you thinking about?"- She is giving you free reign to say whatever you want.

Haha yeah you're right, I could've said so much in that scenario that was true. I said the worst possible thing.

(02-14-2019 10:28 AM)KeepMovingForward Wrote:  I told her the truth (no regrets here, it's the truth and it's part of who I am, not going to fuck my values just to fuck a girl haha).- gay. This is male rationalization at work. What you really wanted from her in that moment was to fuck the shit out of her, but you tucked your dick between your legs, so now you rationalize your mistake under the guise of "i'm such a great guy i was sooo honest and didn't compromise muh values". No. You pussed out in the moment of truth- learn from it and move forward.

Haha you're probably right about this one. Seems like all girls say they want an honest guy, but I start to believe like that's not really the case. Fuck them good, and you have some wiggle room. But yeah you're right, I still care about it a lot, so might be my way to rationalize it. Being a nice guy works, but being a nice guy that's not too assertive and cares too much, no chance.

I guess I feel bad about this girl, since I don't have other girls. Need to have an abundance mindset more.
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02-14-2019 12:17 PM
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RE: Let's get into this serious now
You've really got to be careful with day game spam approaching.

I was recently arrested because a couple of chicks made up some stories about me.

It's very easy to come across as a weirdo and that makes people want to "get you". PM me if you want to know more.
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Why do I need to know more about this haha Big Grin

As long as you're not creeping them out, like ''hey, what's up, wanna fuck?'' or ask stuff like ''wanna give me a massage'' that make her feel uncomfortable straight out of the gate you should be fine, right?

Not sure if you're trolling, but arrested?? You must have tried to hard, and not read the signals correctly.
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(02-16-2019 01:35 PM)Kentemo Wrote:  Why do I need to know more about this haha Big Grin

As long as you're not creeping them out, like ''hey, what's up, wanna fuck?'' or ask stuff like ''wanna give me a massage'' that make her feel uncomfortable straight out of the gate you should be fine, right?

Not sure if you're trolling, but arrested?? You must have tried to hard, and not read the signals correctly.

I'll make a thread about it when I can, but they made false allegations of what I had done.

I literally said hi, they didn't like it, then they went into their community college where they study and said I'd grabbed them when I hadn't.

The verbal interaction lasted seconds.

Then the campus staff overreacted and called the cops and the cops initially believed the campus staff, but later threw the accusations out.

You never know what kind of nasties you are approaching.

Edit: I do believe my opener was "I like you're legs" which is direct and non creepy.
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Sometimes you have to stop, look in the mirror take stock of your life and face the facts...

1. You are a raw blue pilled white knight that pedestalizes women to the point of being frozen with them sexually when alone in a room with them.

2. You have 3 remote jobs that generate a decent if not an above average income that consume most of your time.

3. You mention having been or being in several countries implies some type of remote digital nomad looking to step up to being a nomad capitalist deploying some of your capital reserves for passive income.

4. You indicate: "as a tall blue-eyed guy, average looks I do get a lot of opportunities (not like in Colombia, but still)" and that "I stopped drinking alcohol, got back into running, have my financials in order and can work from anywhere. I am pretty social/fun guy, a bit dorky. Girls call me cute very often."

And then this perhaps the most beta blue pill statement I have ever heard in the realm of all is fair in love and war: "I told her the truth (no regrets here, it's the truth and it's part of who I am, not going to fuck my values just to fuck a girl haha)".

Now not going to flat out call BS here as I am trying to be constructive... as I am now the wise Yoda in command of the Combat Alpha Male Force within who shed my old Military Blue Pill White Knight tendencies for a hardcore Red Pill Combat Alpha Male life the core of which is in this world you are either the conqueror or the conquered. As this pertains to women the ancient Italian Wisdom rules here paraphrasing in Life and Love Fortune Favors the Bold as Fortune like a Woman needs to be captured by Force of Will and Boldness of Character.

That said I am convinced that based upon the facts you represented and perhaps going against the grain since you said you no longer drink Alchohol and do not like electronic devices after your work is done (Online and Bars are out) you have two basic options, but first must decide on your target female archetype in my case I am Celtic, Teutonic and Roman ancestry and like Nordic/Germanic/Slavic Blue Eyed Blonde Women, Green Eyed Red haired women or Hazel Eyed or Blue/Green Eyed Northern Italian/Swiss women. Just my personal preference but a brown eyed Italian who can cook and phock my brains out can actually give the blondes and redheads a challenge.

So being in Central America; Mexico, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Columbia mentioned there are basically 3 major ethnic groups, indigenous Central Americas; Aztecs, Mayans etc, Mestizos Spanish Colonial and Indigenous mixed and then Old World European high IQ Colonial Nobility and Modern Emigres escaping Napoleonic, WWI, WWII wars Germans, Spanish and Italians and to some extent Greeks and Nordics/Slavic/Celtic Emigres. I read that Giselle Bundchen was 6th Generation German Brazilian of pure German Ancestry. Now determine where your preferred archetype demographic is concentrated - as you are 29 and have decent English skills I will assume peasant women selling crafts or fruit in the local open-air markets are not your target demo and assume middle to upper-middle-class Mestizo and Old World Europeans including old lines of pure white Dark Haired colonial spanish are your preferred demo. So since on-line using electronics is not an option. The best place to meet them is in a Church that serves their community or local community colleges or local unis that cater to these women. The ones with values will attend on Campus Sunday services go there as well looking clean cut and highly eligible.

Of course since you have values and time is limited you could take the equivalent of a $50 bill in the local currency and visit the local priest or Nuns and ask them if they can help you with a problem, you have your career life on lock but you are missing a woman in your life... believe me unless the priest in this upscale neighborhood is homosexual he will understand as you can only pray so much until you have to choke off a chub. Tell him honestly what you are looking for age, education, virgin with values you can train to your liking or a single milf looking for help with the heavy lifting and a beta bux White Knight Champion to occasionally bang. Of course the Priest and Nuns tastes may differ greatly from yours and you will have to agree to raise any children to be Catholic and go through a traditional courtship so no getting laid till you put a ring on it and marry it. Many diversity playas were detailed to Various Larger Tender craft in Sigonella Sicily and the saying was Yeah Sicilian chicks can be hot and sexy but if you want one you better marry her... otherwise, you will be found floating in the Bay with a Sicilian Smile from Ear to Ear. Tends to be an issue with protected middle and upper middle class daughters across the Catholic World... Lutherans/Protestants not so much as they tend to be more socially liberal when it comes to virginity.

The other option is taking "refresher" classes like English 101, Spanish 101, Creative Writing 101, Psychology 101, Culinary Arts/Food & Wine, Fashion Anything - idea is to take classes that are required basics or very popular in most curricula and that are loaded with many young and often hot and highly bangable women. Most schools will allow auditing of a class without credit for a small registration fee. If this is too time-consuming hire a local young lady in college to be your bird dog and hunt and retrieve the type of women you are seeking - a bird dog woman will befriend the woman and chat her up - see if she is too cunty or bitchy in any way - check out her grades and IQ does she do well in her classes and work in a dedicated manner to complete her major - is it in something useful towards building a family, Nurse, Teacher, Baker, Chef etc., versus female time sinks like Doctor, Sales, Marketing, traveling Digital Nomad not a plus for a woman who you want to train to make YOU happy.

Now on to the seduction phase - first I would invest some time and read the 50 Shades Trilogy or at least watch the 50 Shades movies - cheesy to be sure but the Author struck a nerve with women globally and sold over 100 Million of these mommy porn softcore bondage and submission sex books. Why? - women fantasize about a well-executed seduction by a dominant and capable Alpha type Male who knows what they are doing and can execute a proper seduction, rock them hard and put them away very wet craving to come back for more.

A proper seduction is simple - meet at a decent upscale Hotel as you are not going to seduce her in a Hostel, Cheap Nomad Apartment or Behind a dumpster - meet for Drinks or Coffee if no alcohol an issue (Yet wine or a cocktail are proven to loosen a women's inhibitions and lubricate them mentally to get in the mood) NEVER buy a meal until after first sex as after a meal a woman is bloated it kills their mood as they do not prefer to be pumped by you on top of her on a full stomach which has been known to induce puking also a real mood killer.

Like a Boss at the time when your loins tell you they are ready typically after the first round of drinks or coffee simply be a Man, be Christian Grey and take her by the hand up to your room where you have some cheap Moet Champagne or Asti Spumante (Sweet Italian Bubbly Chicks love) or just Ice Water Bottles on ice, some romantic music to bang by, rose petals on the bed turned down, Edible Sensual Massage oil and condoms stashed in the nighstand on your side of the bed and luxurious soft hotel robes on the bed and hand her one and tell her to go freshen up in the shower - the meaning here is to wash out her pits and snatch so she tastes and smells decent enough to eat out and bang... or step it up a notch and join her in the shower soap and lather her and your self up and then slide your man meat in and lift her off her toes dangling on your man meat crushing her clit with soapy pressures that send her eyes rolling back into her head and then take her out onto the bed still lathered and have her ride on top for a while still compacting her clit for multiple orgasms and when ready put her on her knees for a proper hard phocking from behind till you shoot off your nut.

Of course, slide a condom on or better have her put it on when she is about to mount you on top in bed as proof of consensual sex and to avoid any baby daddy drama until you decide you can properly housebreak and train her to be your loyal woman/baby momma if you so desire.

Afterward, break out some more bubbly, wine, water or juice and get your wind back for round two... eventually add some spice with basic bed bondage sex kits 20 to 30 bux on Amazon and up your 50 shades fantasy game from there on... Sex Swings, Insemination Sex Tables with leg and arm restraints etc.

Point is never tell her what you are going to do - just MAN UP and do it and if she ever starts to phreak with LMR - wait a bit and eat her clit for a while and then restart - or if endless LMR NEXT her with cab fare for the next 50 shades experience adventurer.

Your well-engineered seduction will begin to dominate her dreams with subconscious desire to be dominated by you - reengage and seduce or move on to the next sexual adventuress.

Your dry spell will be no more and you can thank me by paying it forward.

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02-16-2019 04:23 PM
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(02-16-2019 04:23 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Sometimes you have to stop, look in the mirror take stock of your life and face the facts...

That was an entertaining read.
But yeah all the facts are about right.

Tired of caring to much and putting girls on a pedestal.

I guess I'll close this thread and keep it all in one thread.
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