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Ok i just messaged LA girl and invited her to my city,

Me:Hi lovely, hows your week going (cringe i know)
Her:Hi, good and you?
Me: Good, just work and gym.
Her: good, me school and gym
Me: Ha yup thats why i go all out on weekends, weekdays are boring
Me: what did you have for dinner
Her: chicken soup and im making some fruit salad, you?
Me/Her: "some banter about what i ate blah blah"
Me: I checked out some spring break events but the last one just passed. The beach clubs still get pretty good.
Her: Yeah ive passed through there a while back and looks super fun. Do you go a lot?
Me: nah, just in spring and summer(to the beach clubs)
Me: I have next weekend off so you can come, you can stay the whole weekend
Her: very good
Me: you can take a bus, they are nice and have wifi so you dont have to drive
Her: yeah
Me: Let me know how much it is and ill pay it
Her: oki doki
Her: do you get a hotel near the beach?
Me: yeah i get X hotel
Her:thats a nice hotel
Me: Do you like the beach, i mean swimming and all that
Her: yeah
Me: ok well then we'll plan it., Have a good night
Her: Bye, have a good night.

Ok so although she was very responsive, I kinda got a lukewarm feeling about her wanting to come. As you can see her responses were terse and didnt seem like she was seriously planning to come. Idk its hard to gauge girls sometimes, but i would expect her to ask more questions and kinda plan it out more. I purposely said to let me know how much the bus ticket is that way If she does hit me up then i at least know she looked at ticket prices and might be serious.
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(04-04-2019 12:46 AM)cruzinV Wrote:  Me: you can take a bus, they are nice and have wifi so you dont have to drive
Her: yeah
Me: Let me know how much it is and ill pay it
Her: oki doki
I wouldn't pay anything to a women before we have something serious, but if it works for you then do it. Just be sure not to become a betabux.

(04-04-2019 12:46 AM)cruzinV Wrote:  Ok so although she was very responsive, I kinda got a lukewarm feeling about her wanting to come. As you can see her responses were terse and didnt seem like she was seriously planning to come. Idk its hard to gauge girls sometimes, but i would expect her to ask more questions and kinda plan it out more. I purposely said to let me know how much the bus ticket is that way If she does hit me up then i at least know she looked at ticket prices and might be serious.
The only way you will know is waiting and see if she comes. If she doesn't then in your case I would review what I did wrong and what I did right and calibrate my Game accordingly not to commit the same errors again. Prepare yourself for whatever that might happen.

I see you're gaming more than before: that's the only way you can calibrate your game and get better results in the future. Hope everything goes fine buddy, wish you luck!
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So if I understand the story correctly, you met this girl in LA, hung out with her for both nights of the weekend (though didn't seal the deal), and basically right after you're inviting her to your city on an all-expenses paid trip?

I would be VERY surprised if she comes (even though you're planning to pay her hotel). That is a pretty big commitment on her end for a guy who she just met and has not fucked yet. If she comes, I'd say getting laid is a shoe-in, but she will most likely flake. It makes sense that she is being hesitant, I'm kind of surprised that she is still replying (that is a good sign in and of itself).

With out of town chicks it can be tricky if you don't seal the deal when you have your chance. The best way for me has been to add them on IG and send an occasional text/DM. That way, you're on each others radar for when you potentially cross paths later on, esp if the two cities are reasonably close.
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(04-04-2019 09:56 PM)RDF Wrote:  So if I understand the story correctly, you met this girl in LA, hung out with her for both nights of the weekend (though didn't seal the deal), and basically right after you're inviting her to your city on an all-expenses paid trip?

I would be VERY surprised if she comes (even though you're planning to pay her hotel). That is a pretty big commitment on her end for a guy who she just met and has not fucked yet. If she comes, I'd say getting laid is a shoe-in, but she will most likely flake. It makes sense that she is being hesitant, I'm kind of surprised that she is still replying (that is a good sign in and of itself).

With out of town chicks it can be tricky if you don't seal the deal when you have your chance. The best way for me has been to add them on IG and send an occasional text/DM. That way, you're on each others radar for when you potentially cross paths later on, esp if the two cities are reasonably close.

Damn dude I think your right. I may have jumped the gun. I was actually thinking if I should go to LA and hang out with her one more time before i asked her to come. If she flakes I could still make a trip to her and see if she'll hang out. Just hope she dont see that as needy.
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RE: Early 30s newbie
Op you sound like you're doing pretty good for someone who's 4/10 in looks. Perhaps you're not the sub-mongoloid you think you are?
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Friday night i talked to a 25yr old with an average face, she looked a bit older because she had crows feet. Her body was nice though, she had a thin body, flat stomach, and nice butt abt a 6/10. I bought her a few drinks and the convo was going pretty good. I was kinda drunk so I went for the makeout and she kissed me back but not full on French Kissing, only a little tounge. I got her number and saw she was texting her friend that she wanted to leave so maybe she wasnt that into me. Also she was visiting from LA so maybe I have a new lead there but I know the fact that she didnt want to stay talking to me is a bad sign.

Saturday I was having trouble choosing a club to go into, I just felt so awkward walking around alone. It SUCKS not having a single fucking friend to hang out with. I finally ended up going into this club and sat by the bar just drinking and people watching. There was plenty of targets to talk to but my mind wasnt right, I was mad at myself for not having a single gd friend.
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(04-07-2019 04:55 PM)cruzinV Wrote:  Friday night i talked to a 25yr old with an average face, she looked a bit older because she had crows feet. Her body was nice though, she had a thin body, flat stomach, and nice butt abt a 6/10. I bought her a few drinks and the convo was going pretty good. I was kinda drunk so I went for the makeout and she kissed me back but not full on French Kissing, only a little tounge. I got her number and saw she was texting her friend that she wanted to leave so maybe she wasnt that into me. Also she was visiting from LA so maybe I have a new lead there but I know the fact that she didnt want to stay talking to me is a bad sign.
You're doing progress, man! First, try not to get drunk and regulate your alcohol comsumption (the more drunk you are, the worst your game is). Second, don't take the thing about her not wanting to stay so seriously: if she wasn't into you she would have already gone before and that kiss would have never happened, honestly; close sets when you've already gotten her phone unless you want to escalate more so that doesn't happen. Third, don't buy her drinks unless she's already given you sex.

Continue gaming women and polish your game bit by bit; errors are common and happen to everyone. Get a date with that 25 years old if you want and game her.

(04-07-2019 04:55 PM)cruzinV Wrote:  Saturday I was having trouble choosing a club to go into, I just felt so awkward walking around alone. It SUCKS not having a single fucking friend to hang out with. I finally ended up going into this club and sat by the bar just drinking and people watching. There was plenty of targets to talk to but my mind wasnt right, I was mad at myself for not having a single gd friend.
If you don't have friends to go to some place with you, then get some friends in the place where you're going.

Don't be mad for not having friends, that's nonsense; going alone makes you not dependent on friends to game other women and when you get to do it several times you won't fear it as much. Don't mind about people's opinions and just do what you have to do: if you have friends or not, it's your problem.
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I texted the 21yr old LA girl last night to gauge her interest about coming to visit me. Again she was very responsive to my texts and I didnt bring up the trip to see if she brought it up, which she did.

Her: hey im a bit worried about getting my period this weekend.
Me: what do you mean? why?
Me: Oh, you mean for the trip i invited you on this weekend?
Her: Yeah, if i get my period i cant swim and i wanted to swim.
Her: I hope i get it tomorrow then it'll be done by this weekend.
Me: Oh, well if you cant come its no problem.
Her: I want to go, im just worrying a bit
Me: and you cant swim when having your period?
Her: No, its not hygenic.
Me:Well let me know if you can so i can book a hotel or not
Her: Ok, I can try somethings to shorten it. I should be ok.
Me: i hope, have a goodnight
Her: you too! <kissey face>

Ok so i dont know whether to think her period is an excuse or if shes actually planning to come. She never said she cant come and i dont see a reason why she'd string me along, especially when i gave her an out saying its not a problem if she cant come. I explicity told her to let me know if she can come or not to book a hotel, so im giving her until Wednesday to confirm. Im being cautious about booking an expensive hotel and taking a day off just to have her flake on me.
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I'd be mentally preparing to be flaked on, sorry. Not a good sign that she's already signalling she may not be able to make it.
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Just got a text from LA girl.

Her: I just bought my bathing suit, I'm looking forward to the trip!
Me: oh good, let me see you model it.
Her: haha when I see you
Me: ha I tried
Me: so did you look at bus times? What time you plan on arriving?
Her: they leave every hour, I have an exam friday morning then I'll leave right after.
Me: cool, were gonna have a blast watch.
Her: yeah
Me: I'm gonna hit the gym, well chat later
Her: ok

So yeah all good signs!..I guess she was planning on coming all along. I'm gonna go ahead and book a hotel since I doubt she'll flake now. Gonna be expensive af but fuck it shes young and hot.
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Good luck!
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I booked 2 nights for ~$500, the hotel is nice so she should be impressed. Although i fucked up and booked a double room since thats the only rooms they had left. Im just realizing what a stupid mistake that was, It might give her an excuse to not want to bang since she can sleep on the other bed. Rookie mistake i know. And i cant make any changes to the room or get charged a 1 night fee. Damn.

Also texted the 25yr old LA girl, she took 2 hours to reply with a "haha". And i just said id hit her up when im in LA next time an she said "yeah let me know". I doubt anything will come of it but whatever a weak lead is better than no lead i guess.
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(04-09-2019 04:55 PM)cruzinV Wrote:  I booked 2 nights for ~$500, the hotel is nice so she should be impressed. Although i fucked up and booked a double room since thats the only rooms they had left. Im just realizing what a stupid mistake that was, It might give her an excuse to not want to bang since she can sleep on the other bed. Rookie mistake i know. And i cant make any changes to the room or get charged a 1 night fee. Damn.

I'm guessing the fee is from the booking agency rather than the hotel. Why not call up the hotel directly and ask if you can change to a double bedroom or at minimum ask for the twin beds to be put together next to each other?

If not, it just means you have to make a move prior to you guys going to bed, which in my opinion you should do anyway.
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(04-09-2019 05:07 PM)coffeedrinker Wrote:  
(04-09-2019 04:55 PM)cruzinV Wrote:  I booked 2 nights for ~$500, the hotel is nice so she should be impressed. Although i fucked up and booked a double room since thats the only rooms they had left. Im just realizing what a stupid mistake that was, It might give her an excuse to not want to bang since she can sleep on the other bed. Rookie mistake i know. And i cant make any changes to the room or get charged a 1 night fee. Damn.

I'm guessing the fee is from the booking agency rather than the hotel. Why not call up the hotel directly and ask if you can change to a double bedroom or at minimum ask for the twin beds to be put together next to each other?

If not, it just means you have to make a move prior to you guys going to bed, which in my opinion you should do anyway. I want to make it perfectly clear that i expect to bang.

The fee is from the hotel, im past the free cancellation window. Plus they didnt have any single bed rooms available. The beds are stationary, but at least they are queen size.

And i agree with your last sentence, my plan is to get her tipsy, hold hands,etc, and go for several makeout sessions while were out bar hopping.
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Good going man. I'm enjoying reading your reports. Keep on taking action!

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Good luck OP , only hard work will pay off
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I wouldn't worry too much. It sounds like a done deal

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FUCK!!..this bitch cancelled on me. She just said "I cant go, hope you dont hate me" I asked her why and she gave me some bullshit excuse that she has to study for an exam she has next week. Im feeling like shit right now, why the hell did she string me along like that KNOWING she was never planning to go? Here i was like an idiot researching the best hotels, nicest restaurants and clubs we could go to and all along she was just fucking with me or I was plan C to her. Now im starting to remember why I went MGTOW 3 years ago. Im not even pissed off, just feeling kinda hopeless.

The only saving grace was that the hotel allowed me to cancel my reservation, so at least i didnt lose money.

And of course this HAD to happen, guys that look like me dont just go out with hot young college girls.
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Sorry to hear that man, but you were going for a long shot. It's basically the same thing as LMR. She realized that if she went, she would have to fuck a guy who she only met once before, so the cat got scared. It happens, especially w/a girl who clearly doesn't seem in control of her emotions based on the description of your night.

With these out of town chicks, you gotta seal the deal when you meet them or play the long game with IG. Otherwise you're running the risk of more flakes or just spending a ton of cash on girls you barely know. Neither is good.
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I'm sorry to write this off-topic. I was searching throughout the whole forum and didn't find any reference to this.
I am new in this forum (a lot of experience in the game tho) but I can't really understand why can't I start threads. Do I need to gain reputation by responding or something like that?
Thanks and sorry again for the off-topic.
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There’s a mini number of posts you should write before starting a thread .
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I was at the club last night sitting by the bar, saw this hot girl walk past me and go to the bathroom. She was wearing a tight black minidress, nice plump ass and very nice legs with normal sized tits. Face was average overall a solid 7. I knew she was gonna pass by me again so I stopped her and said where she was headed, she said she was going to her friends table and I told her let me buy you a drink she said shell come back when shes done saying hi to her friend. I thought she wasnt gonna come back so I walked around, I spotted her later walking and I positioned myself to walk by her to see if she'd say anything. She immediately stopped me and said I thought you were gonna buy me a drink. I was like yeah so I get her one and we start chatting, convo was going good but kinda boring so we danced for one song and I tried to kiss her but she pulled away, I got her number and she kinda warned me that she rarely goes out with guys. I sent her a text that night and this morning she replied "who are you?" I reminded her but her answers to my texts were one word replies, I finally asked if she wanted to go to lunch with me but she said she wants to sleep because she left the club late. I just told her to hit me up when she wants to hang out. Obviously not counting on it so another dead end.

On another note, my uber driver was very good looking he had a full beard, nice clear skin with good eye area and muscular. He was telling me how many girls he pulls from driving that he had several chicks give him a bj in the car when he was dropping them off. I was honestly feeling disheartened hearing all this how easy it is for guys like him to pull chicks while working a dead end gig. I looked at his reviews and it was nothing but girls saying how hot he is, heart emojis, and girls telling him to call them. It brought down my mood tbh.
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I thought uber reviews was just leave a star rating.
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(04-20-2019 07:17 PM)cruzinV Wrote:  I was at the club last night sitting by the bar, saw this hot girl walk past me and go to the bathroom. She was wearing a tight black minidress, nice plump ass and very nice legs with normal sized tits. Face was average overall a solid 7. I knew she was gonna pass by me again so I stopped her and said where she was headed, she said she was going to her friends table and I told her let me buy you a drink she said shell come back when shes done saying hi to her friend. I thought she wasnt gonna come back so I walked around, I spotted her later walking and I positioned myself to walk by her to see if she'd say anything. She immediately stopped me and said I thought you were gonna buy me a drink. I was like yeah so I get her one and we start chatting, convo was going good but kinda boring so we danced for one song and I tried to kiss her but she pulled away, I got her number and she kinda warned me that she rarely goes out with guys. I sent her a text that night and this morning she replied "who are you?" I reminded her but her answers to my texts were one word replies, I finally asked if she wanted to go to lunch with me but she said she wants to sleep because she left the club late. I just told her to hit me up when she wants to hang out. Obviously not counting on it so another dead end.

On another note, my uber driver was very good looking he had a full beard, nice clear skin with good eye area and muscular. He was telling me how many girls he pulls from driving that he had several chicks give him a bj in the car when he was dropping them off. I was honestly feeling disheartened hearing all this how easy it is for guys like him to pull chicks while working a dead end gig. I looked at his reviews and it was nothing but girls saying how hot he is, heart emojis, and girls telling him to call them. It brought down my mood tbh.

Honestly, you're describing 95 percent of successful night game here.
You approach a cute chick, you have some positive interactions, you get her number, she barely remembers you the next day when you text. Maybe you get a date - if even a response back. Cross your fingers. 1 out of ever 10 of interactions that go that way will end up in sex if you're lucky.

Nothing special. Hence, I have no idea why you're getting in a low mood about this. Who gives a shit about the Uber driver whose an idiot for risking his income and potential rape/sexual assault charges.

If you want some kind of solid connection do some other kind of venue where you can sit and talk. Club game is dead. Girls barely go out anymore to meet men.

College girls are flaky and your effort to have a killer date with one is way overkill. She probably sensed it and it freaked her out as over-investment. Take her to the shittiest dive bar and save your money.

Any time a conversation is boring, that's the central problem you have to fix. Forcing a kiss or dancing or a number close, that's not going to fix the interaction. Game in America is being an entertaining clown with moments of emotional connection/comfort building.
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(04-11-2019 04:23 PM)cruzinV Wrote:  FUCK!!..this bitch cancelled on me. She just said "I cant go, hope you dont hate me" I asked her why and she gave me some bullshit excuse that she has to study for an exam she has next week. Im feeling like shit right now, why the hell did she string me along like that KNOWING she was never planning to go? Here i was like an idiot researching the best hotels, nicest restaurants and clubs we could go to and all along she was just fucking with me or I was plan C to her. Now im starting to remember why I went MGTOW 3 years ago. Im not even pissed off, just feeling kinda hopeless.

The only saving grace was that the hotel allowed me to cancel my reservation, so at least i didnt lose money.

And of course this HAD to happen, guys that look like me dont just go out with hot young college girls.

That is tough but you must focus on the positives, you cold approached a hot young girl and you created at least some attraction. You can do everything right and somehow it can still slip through your fingers (see my LMR thread). I'm more convinced than ever that you should do everything possible to sleep with the girl the night you meet her. Don't get angry or downcast. Look back and see if there's anything you could have done differently.

(04-20-2019 07:17 PM)cruzinV Wrote:  On another note, my uber driver was very good looking he had a full beard, nice clear skin with good eye area and muscular. He was telling me how many girls he pulls from driving that he had several chicks give him a bj in the car when he was dropping them off. I was honestly feeling disheartened hearing all this how easy it is for guys like him to pull chicks while working a dead end gig. I looked at his reviews and it was nothing but girls saying how hot he is, heart emojis, and girls telling him to call them. It brought down my mood tbh.

Rubbish. That guy is not getting blowjobs in his taxi, not unless he's forcing the girl at knife point. Don't believe some idiot's propaganda.
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