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Speculation is right. He's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Unfortunately his lack of spine on several levels indicates that he'd never go up against the party machine anyway, no matter how much grassroots support he had. All it would take is for some neocon general to shout "President Yang, we must act!" and he'd quietly nod his assent to whatever murderous new excursion the elites had in store.

Yet another reason so many of us put faith in Trump. Not only did he talk the right talk but it seemed he had the balls to back it up. I sincerely suspect that Yang is only capable of the former, and under duress he's not even capable of that. Let's see if a couple of Black Lives Matters hippos barge him offstage in the middle of a rally like they did to Sanders. That was one of the defining nails in the coffin of old-man-Bernie's bid for 2016.

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07-03-2019 11:04 AM
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Andrew Yang comes off as the poster child for Nice Guy Beta Male. He is smart, he is hard working, he is nice, caring and giving, but he HATES confrontation. To the point that he will know he is 100% correct and someone will tell him otherwise and he will go quiet and quit right then and there.

The guy brought up some great points early on and really had a chance to do something. But the first time someone told him to "knock it off" he not only did so, he went as far as he could in the opposition direction to show how submissive he is to their demands.

Trump at least would fight back during the campaign and stand for what he believed in, which was almost always the correct position.
07-03-2019 11:12 AM
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Maybe Yang is a decent person and is unsuited for politics. Not the worst thing in the world. Regardless of what happens, I wish him well. It’s not everyday we have a morally sound individual running for office. If anything, it’s a good sign for the future of America that we have decent people like that making headway. It means once the boomers are gone we can start to rebuild.
07-03-2019 12:20 PM
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(07-03-2019 12:20 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Maybe Yang is a decent person and is unsuited for politics. Not the worst thing in the world. Regardless of what happens, I wish him well. It’s not everyday we have a morally sound individual running for office. If anything, it’s a good sign for the future of America that we have decent people like that making headway. It means once the boomers are gone we can start to rebuild.

He isn't a sell out at least, but I don't consider someone "morally sound" when they will not stick to their principles.

His slogan is "Math" and then he wants to give out $1,000 a month and let the other 95% of the world flood in. It doesn't take very high "math" skills to know this will be an epic failure.
07-03-2019 01:12 PM
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#bottlecapchallenge


Not bad for Yang. He has some serious competition though.







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07-04-2019 08:36 AM
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(07-03-2019 11:12 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  Andrew Yang comes off as the poster child for Nice Guy Beta Male. He is smart, he is hard working, he is nice, caring and giving, but he HATES confrontation. To the point that he will know he is 100% correct and someone will tell him otherwise and he will go quiet and quit right then and there.

The guy brought up some great points early on and really had a chance to do something. But the first time someone told him to "knock it off" he not only did so, he went as far as he could in the opposition direction to show how submissive he is to their demands.

Trump at least would fight back during the campaign and stand for what he believed in, which was almost always the correct position.

IMHO, given his beta personality, I don't think someone told him to "knock it off", but rather he has poor execution in how he implements his policies (this is a common weakness in many East Asians). If someone told him to "knock it off", he would have said that he is no longer running
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It is a forum classic how TBK went from full force support to turning on Yang within less than 2-3 days.

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07-11-2019 09:25 PM
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Definitely, don't agree with everything Yang says, but it is nice to see a candidate with original ideas. Just donated
a couple of bucks on his website and I'm hoping he can make the third and fourth debates. I believe he has already qualified for the second.

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(07-11-2019 09:25 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  It is a forum classic how TBK went from full force support to turning on Yang within less than 2-3 days.

It's more like 5 months than "2-3 days", but I guess that wouldn't have as much of a dramatic effect.

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It was barely a month ago that the shillin' for this guy was hard core.

The debates came around and "Et tu Brute?" came from Yang's mouth to the Knight

But your 5 months wouldn't be drama now, would it?

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07-12-2019 10:15 PM
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It's called "evidence based decision making".

Political zombies who support their favorite guy unconditionally like they would support a football team wouldn't really understand it.

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(07-11-2019 09:25 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  It is a forum classic how TBK went from full force support to turning on Yang within less than 2-3 days.

2-3 days?

You really need to stop embarrassing yourself KID. I don't know why you have this bone to pick with me it seems from time to time but if you're going to criticize, you should try to get your facts straight and do some basic research.

I posted the following in late May (a MONTH before the first debate):

(05-27-2019 11:24 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  I have to be perfectly honest on some recent thoughts:

I like Yang on a lot of things but this increasingly hostile "fuck whitey" and pro-illegal immigrant bullshit from nearly all democrats and their base is alone really enough for me to not vote for a single democrat, even more palatable democrats like Yang or Tulsi, until they get a grip on reality (which they won't).

If Yang wanted to push a path to permanent residence with no path to citizenship (and therefore, no voting rights), I could entertain that. But Yang, like all democrats, has no respect for the actual citizens of the USA when he thinks it's OK to give millions of foreign invaders amnesty; albeit on a delayed time clock. We are not talking about hooking up a few foreigners, we are talking about altering the culture and power structure of the USA forever. It's bad enough already with the anchor babies and their voting rights and the legal refugee shitheads like those Somalians in Minnesota. Dump 10 million plus illegals suddenly into elections and it's game over real quick.

I can't vote for someone, anyone, that would make me and my culture essentially obsolete by nefarious means. But it's worse. Being obsolete isn't good enough for them. No, they have to be overtly hostile towards the host nation demographic (i.e. white people) and actively attack them and destroy their lives. To add insult to injury, the foreign invaders are being enabled by self-hating white people (libtards AND cucks) and hostile non-white citizens.

On the other side of the world, I watch a country like Hungary defend its borders and its host culture with true conviction.

In Italy, I see the people realize the grave mistake they have made with migrants and are rising up to unfuck the damage.

But having watch Yang for a while now, he comes off like the "pleaser" type. He doesn't want to offend anybody and he likes consensus above all else. Nice guy, some good ideas, but not the guy I want protecting the demographic integrity of America nor dealing with the ruthless fucks in China on trade or otherwise. That stuff, among other things, requires brass balls and heaps of conviction to deal with.

Plus, he IS Asian so he really doesn't have a dog in this demographic fight.

For a democrat, we could do FAR worse than Yang but he is still a vote for the end of America 1.0. And because he supports amnesty, he is also a vote for putting the finale stake into the concept of a white majority America; the majority that has existed since the nations inception.

In 1970, white people made up close to 90% of the USA populace.

Now?

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You read that right. Since 2007, white babies don't make-up the majority anymore.

NOW... if the non-whites in this country seemed for the most part to not hold hostile anti-white views, I could rest a bit easier with the coming changes. But every bit of evidence, both past and present, suggests life will NOT be good for white people going forward. If you are conservative minded/red pill heterosexual male, it will especially be a living hell.

The demographic war is basically lost already on the present course and a hard line must be drawn here and now. As much as I have not been happy with Trump lately on some things, he at least is and will likely hold the line on somethings. And if he can hold the line until a "phase 2" candidate (i.e. someone advocating peaceful separation of the USA). can arrive, then it will be worth it. I'm not holding out much hope for a MAGA Congress takeover in 2020 but who knows.

That all said: I should emphasis, I'm not a white nationalist. Not in the slightest. What I am though is someone that sees blatant anti-white actions from minorities AND white people in the USA RIGHT NOW while white people still have a majority and therefore, I know what is coming for me when white people lose even more power down the line. In my mind now, it's get MAGA people to take over (which in 2018 didn't really pan out already) or break-up the USA.

Everything else is bullshit that doesn't help me.

source: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-72584...pid1985670

I've always expressed ambivalence about Yang and the risk/compromises involved in supporting him (and the democrat party) even under optimal conditions. There was a chance early on that he would rise to the occasion and crave out a niche as a true outsider willing to speak the honest truth about a variety issues. Ultimately, I was hoping to see him stand up to the democrat mob above all else.

Unfortunately and as I highlighted in my May 2019 post, it became apparent to me that Yang wasn't a real deal leader and supporting any democrat was a risk not worth taking. His first debate performance, where there was a very slight chance he'd pull off a hail mary performance, was the nail in the coffin.

That said, I still agree with Yang on some issues and think he has some good ideas; ideas that someone in the GOP should pick up on. Proportional voting and democracy dollars to fund grassroots elections are things the GOP should be pushing hard right now just for survival purposes. But it won't matter soon enough when the democrats own the entire country partially thanks to Trump's cucking and incompetence in his first two years. The situation is not entirely his fault but he has made huge avoidable errors that we will all pay for in the future.

As of now, Trump is the best we got (excluding a possible rebellious MAGA governor) and we just have to hope that the democrats go so full retard enough (they are doing a great job thus far) between today and Nov 2020, enough NPCs will wake up to get Trump another 4 years and buy us all more time. It's possible the democrats could overplay their hand too soon but if November 2018 is any indication (in the wake of the Kavanaugh non-sense), I'm not very optimistic.

However... even if Trump gets another 4 years, the larger structural problems will likely not be fixed given his track record and the corrupt Congress he has to deal with. If anything is going to get truly fixed, it will probably be after Trump via a rebellious MAGA governor.
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TBK, I've liked your threads in the past here and there, I'm no enemy, but look at what you just posted. It's exactly what I was trying to get through to you the whole time this went down. I don't know why you all are so defensive. Trump is the best option, period, he's done a ton, what more do you want him to do with all sides against him and in only 2.5 years?

Just relax and exercise a bit of temperance before going hyperbolic in posts because you're frustrated. We all are to some degree, so it's nothing personal. It's ok to admit you were just worked up. Instead I get all this flak for predicting precisely what happened, which is I guess why, at this point.

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Trump has the same problem as Putin and Xi Jinping. All three are in charge of big legacy superpowers facing off against outlaw deep state establishments and globalist corporate interests. They all have this paternalist message about them, but the fact is that they're just three guys who entered office by slipping in under the globalist/deep state radar. Once they're in, the challenge is by no means over. They've had to put on false appearances, make alliances of convenience, and also let's face it, they're not exactly saints or clairvoyants, so they have their own vices and make mistakes. But they're the only force in the governments of their respective countries who have a shot at striking the enemy.

Just getting Trump into office showed that the American people didn't like what was happening to the country. That symbol of their indignation has been there for more than two years, trolling the establishment, getting the progressives to go from silent destruction of Americans' rights to going apeshit and revealing their true colors by openly supporting traitors, violence, and illegals. That's success of a kind that's independent from what's happening with Trump and his establishment advisors in Washington. The ideological battlefield is now contested. The left cannot win just by calling you a Nazi. They can deplatform you but when you get on the streets they have to send Antifa to clear you out, which is damaging for them because no matter how the MSM tries to spin things, everyone right of Marx who does hear about it can see that the "he was a white supremacist" excuse is a lie.

At worst, Trump is like an EMP that went off, perhaps not actively helping anyone but stunning the progressive establishment and forcing them to regroup. At best, he really is doing what he can, in a steep fight against the globalists' interference, to reset the hijacked domestic and international order in America's favor.
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