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Revenge threat made against NZ PM.

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RE: Shooting at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand 2019
And when the revenge happens Jacinda's tone will magically do a 180 degree turn into "we mustn't let hate win, we are all human"
"not all Muslims are like this, we mustn't let the actions of a few allow hate to fester within us"
"My heart goes out to Muslim communities who will certainly be targets of hate and Islamophobia in the aftermath"
"We must redouble our efforts to fight Islamophobia and white nationalism that drives our migrant communities to act out in this fashion."

They're all a broken record. I swear I've read that tweet up there a million times before.
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I have a concealed carry licence in Florida-I carry a Five Seven FN solely for mass shooters. I really thought about it before I made the change-I am not going to commit a crime, If I get in an argument I will leave before escalating, I do not carry while drinking (it is illegal), in road rage situations I don't engage (or I apologize which always catches people by surprise),and I have no personal issues with anyone-If I am in a situation where I need to shoot it will be as a victim of an attempted crime-either robbery or a mass shooter. Mass shooters now all wear armor-so either carry a AR 15 pistol with a wrist brace or a FN 5.7 with the proper ammo (or both).

This happened in New Zealand but I am speaking for America-All places of worship and education must have armed security that is ready to fight-There should be at least 2 uniformed state/federal LEOs and at least 1 plainclothes disguised as a worshiper inside. Our schools should all be defended as if Donald Trump's youngest son was a student there(I exaggerate, but only a little).

The guys that did this were wrong on many levels. People are not responsible for the acts of others, but to be honest considering what we know-I don't even think I can take them at their word that they hate Muslims-this may sound bizarre , but they may just be trolling us. It is just as plausible that these dudes are trolling , picked Muslims for the attention and flew to New Zealand to commit this crime because of the lenient (compared to Australia or the USA) laws there and slower tactical response. Seriously , these dudes just may be memeing in real life and we are the laughs (Lulz) they want by even spending the cognitive energy to try to understand how subscribe to Pew di Pie, Candice Owens is an Inspiration and 70 plus more pages of online bullshit they put together matters at all. Guess I am just a normfag.

Fuck these dudes for killing innocent people-it is indefensible behavior. Watching a woman beg for her life only to be shot and run over is disturbing. I despise people like this because they are cowards, pure and simple.

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Reading parts of this dude's manifesto, his autistic naval-gazing and fascination with himself stands out. His priority is making sure everyone can find out everything they want to know about his Very Important Ideas. He's played the questions he hopes he'll be asked over so many times in his mind that he's given sarcastic answers to the usual junk ones.

It's still hard to avoid the obvious conclusion of attention-seeking. He lost his father young and spent a lot of likely very lonely time touring some destinations that don't exactly suggest he was prioritizing quality nightgame. Everybody says he's polite but and they can't see him doing this, but nobody says they knew him well or were in touch with him regularly.

A lot of guys are into fitness because they're lonely and think it will help them with women, but just end up lonely and fit. He had to be running out of money and options, and never really established himself in any meaningful way. He needed a mental model where he could feel significant and this is what he came up with.

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RE: Shooting at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand 2019
so this dirtbag aussie fuckwit hates all the muslims coming to australia and all the mosques in sydney

so he goes to NZ to shoot them in mosques because theres no way he can get those weapons and artillery in Australia

what a coward

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(03-15-2019 11:20 AM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  This is the cleanest mass shooting I've ever seen. No blood, no splattered parts, not a fucking drop of blood on the wall. The bodies look clean too.

That white wall is cleaner than the wall in my room, and supposedly 30+ people just got shot in front of it. Not even a dent in the wall much less bullet marks. 3 rows of them and even the back row guys didn't run out that door? bullshit. The bullet passed through 4 rows of them but not a single fucking bullet touched the wall? The guys 4 rows deep got direct vital shots that stopped them cold, yet no pools of blood?

Looks like homeboy fired blanks at a bunch of calm stunt-doubles laying on the ground. Maybe this is why they're trying to scrub the video from the internet so quickly.

There's a second video of the aftermath of the attack on the 2nd mosque. There's plenty of blood in it.
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RE: Shooting at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand 2019
Mean-time, while all this attention falls onto New Zealand.

20 folk in Mexico were beheaded by chainsaw or drowned in acid baths.
20 folk in Europe were assaulted or stabbed or splashed with acid.
20 folk were shot in the streets across South American favela's.
20 folk were executed by the Chinese government.
200 folk were butchered by machete in Africa.

No surprise then, that the fake-news media crowd focus on the one event that can promote their identity politics & anti-gun narratives...
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RE: Shooting at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand 2019
A post from a FB page I follow called the Patriarchy, whose admin is Aussie:

Quote:"On #Christchurch

I'd better post on this before I cover anything else otherwise I'll be accused of not caring, or covering it up, or whatnot.

I like these posts the least because my obsessive need to tell the whole truth means that I'll make about 1% of you happy and outrage the rest somehow. So let's just get the fuck on with it.

The terrorists who attacked two mosques yesterday in Christchurch New Zealand appear to have been alt-rightish pagans who decided to chimp out after repeated Muslim mass-attacks and rape scandals in Europe.

To say that this was inevitable is probably the biggest understatement in history. A casual glance at https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ (aka Islamic body count) shows that for the period March 02 to March 08 alone, Islamically-motivated terrorists made 27 attacks, killed 145, injured 283, detonated 2 suicide bombs and did all of this in 10 separate countries.

That's in SIX DAYS. Check the archives on that page, it's a normal average.

Islam has a massive, massive problem with violence and murder in particular. If you don't address that, if you leave it out of the Christchurch equation, as the media and politicians are so assiduously doing right now, you're lying by omission.

The terrorists who butchered a whole bunch of innocent Muslims yesterday were motivated ENTIRELY by the Islamic tendency toward violence, and the threat they perceived in the combination of an unwillingness to examine the problem by most Muslim authorities, and the willingness of western politicians to accept ever more millions of Muslims into the West, and ask little of them in the way of integration.

That was their motivation. Their reaction was beyond idiotic. As I have said a bajillion times before when Muslims have chimped out and killed a bunch of normies, YOU'RE ATTACKING THE WRONG PEOPLE.

Sure, maybe there might have been a couple of ISIS-loving types in that Mosque. Just as there may have been a serial killer walking along a French street market when a truck was driven through it by a Muslim gone full spaz. We'll never know. But we DO know that 99.99% of the victims were never going to kill anyone, engineer a coup or topple a regime in an Islamic nation, or launch a false-flag attack dropping a couple of iconic buildings in New York City. Catch my drift?

As was said in the classics, "the men who are killing our world aren't abstractions, and they have names and addresses". Those men are mainly atheists, some Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. They're the ones who cause countries and buildings to collapse at a whim, to make money and to move us just a little closer to total global tyranny. The EU Commission, gone worldwide. That's what they want.

None of those men were in that mosque, just as none of those men were in the concert in Paris, or the Christmas festival in Germany. Get my drift?

Tit-for-tat random mass attacks are pointless for both sides and really self-defeating for westerners.

It's pointless for Muslims to do because there's millions upon millions of westerners. Kill a hundred here, and dozen there... what have you achieved? Thousands more westerners just turned into full-blown Neo-Nazis who would happily ship you off to camps.

Westerners are even more badly served from this kind of irrational barbarity. First of all, the media isn't going to cover for you. They'll not "root-cause" the source of your homicidal angst. They'll damn you as "white supremacists" and that will be it. You'll become an un-person, devoid of... well, anything, really. Plus you will have incidentally given them EXACTLY what they want: white monsters killing women and children.

They've been DREAMING about this day for eons. That idiot recreating Los Santos in first-person mode literally could have been scripted by them (no, he wasn't, this wasn't staged). But he might as well have been, complete with a wounded woman plaintively crying out for help in the street, given two shots to the head. Remember how pissed we all were when a Muslim terrorists did that to the French police officer in similar circumstances?

Overall, this situation is a gigantic win for the globalists. They will finally be able to totally unleash their media shills to go full-antiwhite. Normies by the millions will hate themselves just a little bit more, and sign on to the globalist agenda. Governments will crack down on firearms and freedom of speech, especially on the internet. Hell, I'm risking this page's existence just by commenting honestly about this.

In closing:

To westerners - don't celebrate this. It was a collossal strategic backward step in every step. Like it or not, those Muslims were in the West because they were invited to come. Also, stop virtue signalling online. If you want to pray for the victims, pray for them. Don't come online to tell us about how you're doing this or that. It's the ugliest, most opportunistic form of vanity.

To Muslims - don't retaliate. Read about Northern Ireland during the Troubles. When two demographic groups go to war within the same territory, all you get is death piled upon death. There's no winning because you're essentially just acting like organised serial killers.

To both of you - learn who your enemy really is, for Christ's sake."

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(03-15-2019 04:59 PM)Horus Wrote:  


How about cutting off the snakes head(s)^^^ for once. Shouldn`t be that hard if you`re willing to die/throw away your life for whatever cause. God knows there`s enough elitist traitors around these days.

I`m not outright supporting acts of that nature. But on the other hand, governments use violence everyday against it`s own citizens. That`s why you see the insane taxes and regulations everywhere. That`s why there will be no Brexit, even though it was the will of the people. That`s why the Yellow Vests will eventually give up, with no real results to show for all their effort.

This is one man who has officially given up on democracy. We need force at this point! But not from men like this guy and Breivik of course. But well organized and measured force against the muscle of the State is necessary. Freedom has to be taken and defended by force. That`s been the case throughout the history of civilization.

We will stomp to the top with the wind in our teeth.

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(03-15-2019 04:48 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  The only country that teaches active shooter protocol is the US. Most people in the first world don't think about situations like this.

Run, Hide, Fight.




Very well-done, this video above!

For example, in the Run section, appreciate the advice #2: "Don't let stupid, panicky, freezing people slow you down. If they don't want to run or take action, and you can't quickly convince them, then abandon them to their sorry fate, and run". Darwin at work.

In the Hide section, last advice: "Hide well, but not in a place where you would be trapped with no back exit, should the shooter force the door.

In the Fight section: "Commit to your actions, translation: hit and fight with everything you have, give it all, no half-punches.

Bonus of the Fight section video: the woman crumbles crying to the floor (4'4) Dodgy while both dudes get ready to break the skull of the terrorist... It means, the video was made before the new Hollywood trend of all-mighty fighter superwomen, I guess.

I would just mend one thing, regarding this video: for women, it should be the choice of Run Hide Fight, but for men it should be Run Fight Hide, in this order - and even, if a man (or a trained woman, with a loaded firearm) is armed, Fight Run Hide.
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(03-15-2019 02:26 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  
(03-15-2019 02:24 PM)mpr Wrote:  Read his manifesto.


No thanks.

Then don't ask obvious questions if you're unwilling to do basic research.

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(03-15-2019 06:39 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  A post from a FB page I follow called the Patriarchy, whose admin is Aussie:

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(03-15-2019 06:39 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  A post from a FB page I follow called the Patriarchy, whose admin is Aussie:

Quote:Sure, maybe there might have been a couple of ISIS-loving types in that Mosque. But we DO know that 99.99% of the victims were never going to kill anyone

The gunman wasn't just worried about Muslim violence. But also about demographic replacement. In that context it's perfectly logical to kill non-violent "victims". Especially considering that the gunman stated that he had the explicit goal of helping to create a climate of fear so that muslim people returned to their homelands.

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Quote:Tit-for-tat random mass attacks are pointless for both sides and really self-defeating for westerners.


Not if enough of them happen. Violence is very effective in driving out a targeted population. Just look at formerly prosperous formerly white neighborhoods in big cities that have been turned into ghettos. Much of the real estate in the ghetto of large cities such as NYC or Chicago is a potential goldmine due it it's proximity to desirable area's and a huge shortage of available housing. Yet it remains underdeveloped because of the high likelihood of violence towards any outsiders that move there.

They only way to reclaim such places is flooding the area with a large police presence. Whose authority is backed by their legal monopoly on violence; and driving out the troublemakers.

Disclaimer: I do not advocate vigilantism or any form of extra-judicial violence.

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By the way, the name Tarrant, associated to New Zealand, brought back (unpleasant) memories of "A. Turenge", once a favored alias for male spies operating in these faraway parts of the world.

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Recently we have heard the word "accelerationism" abundantly. Some here, and elsewhere, have mentioned how this can lead to the establishment attempting to grab guns and go full anti-whitey mode. I agree with some of the points of the text I posted.... HOWEVER...

If one looks at it from a cold blooded, 100% pragmatic way, it could make sense to "accelerate" the seemingly inevitable conflict while things haven't worsened to the point of likely defeat. And it would seem this is what this chap today wants. Along with plenty others behind the curtain... It makes you think, one does need a STOMACH for these things...

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I'm not sure what's considered good or bad taste, certainly media, reading along.

Something that hasn't been brought up is the role of how young white men are talked to and about in the media. The European media (probably anglo as well), has for the longest time claimed that the hate speech made towards muslims actually radicalize them.

Will they stay consistent?

The analysis of the spree killer seems fairly banal, Jetset touched on most of it. It's usually a late 20, early 30s guy, unremarkable, but with signs of narcissism. Maybe a bit of small level crime, frequently lower end of intelligence.

This forum calls them "omega males", yet the shooter was not a proto-typical "loser" neckbeard. He lifted, traveled, had a job. Not unlike the common tropes of self improvement. For whatever reason, he failed to achieve adulthood in any meaningful way (wife, kids, mission, home?).

Why did he snap? Certainly he could have lived a life of quiet desperation like the japanese hikikomori.

Does Japanese media, feminists and people in power, run a non-stop hate campaign against their own young men? Does it tell them non-stop that they're stupid, violent, misogynistic, racist, privileged, cisgendered scum? No.

When you push people away, refuse to acknowledge their struggles and their desire for a place in society, then you risk them feeling like they have nothing to lose. That's what the media has said about islamic radicals, will they stay consistent this time?
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(03-15-2019 08:11 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  frequently lower end of intelligence.

he failed to achieve adulthood in any meaningful way (wife, kids, mission, home?).

This guy wasn't low intelligence...he may have been misdirected in his thinking but he conceived a plan, acquired the hardware, set up the livelink thing, got into the headspace to drive the car and start shooting and then managed to get arrested without being shot himself.

Failing to achieve adulthood...that is a problem for many males, particularly in western countries such as NZ and Australia.

Young men in cities are now faced with the following reality...it's a struggle to get secure employment > they can't secure a home > they can't offer a secure home for a wife > they don't have kids

What's left? Mission...
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I'm still wrapping my head around this all..

Only brief commentary I can add is that I believe this event will be used to test full blown gun confiscation on a national level. I do believe there will be an overreaction and the NZ Government will put the foot down and demand all guns. It all just seems to obvious as you have a tiny populated nation, that is cut off from other borders to control smuggling, and for a western type of nation has relatively high gun ownership at 28%. If you were going to run ant sort of test to disarm a nation NZ would be your best candidate to do so...
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(03-15-2019 08:57 PM)Sgt Donger Wrote:  
(03-15-2019 08:11 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  frequently lower end of intelligence.

he failed to achieve adulthood in any meaningful way (wife, kids, mission, home?).

This guy wasn't low intelligence...he may have been misdirected in his thinking but he conceived a plan, acquired the hardware, set up the livelink thing, got into the headspace to drive the car and start shooting and then managed to get arrested without being shot himself.

Failing to achieve adulthood...that is a problem for many males, particularly in western countries such as NZ and Australia.

Young men in cities are now faced with the following reality...it's a struggle to get secure employment > they can't secure a home > they can't offer a secure home for a wife > they don't have kids

What's left? Mission...

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if we find out that he's actually very intelligent. .. many high IQ people have a hard time fitting in and see the world in their own way. Even petty crimes or drugs can be because their simply bored as things like school come too easy to them so they don't even try.

Reading his manifesto I didn't get a "lower intelligence" impression.
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WTF?





Quote:Chelsea Clinton Apologizes To Students Who Blame Her For NZ Attack
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Mike Brest | Reporter

A group of NYU students confronted Chelsea Clinton on Friday over her recent condemnation of Democratic Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar, leaving the former first daughter apologizing profusely.

The confrontation took place at an NYU vigil meant to honor the 49 people that were murdered Friday when a shooter opened fire inside two different mosques in central Christchurch, New Zealand.

“I’m so sorry that you feel that way. It was certainly never my intention. I do believe words matter. I believe we have to show solidarity,” Clinton stated when approached by students.

“This right here is the result of the massacre stoked by people like you and the words that you have put out into the world,” one student responded. “I want you to know that. I want you to feel that deep inside. The 49 people died because of the rhetoric you put out there.”

The student was referencing the comments Clinton made against Omar last month after the Minnesota congresswoman accused the pro-Israel lobbying group American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) of buying pro-Israel support.

Clinton tweeted to Omar after the accusation, saying, “Co-signed as an American. We should expect all elected officials, regardless of party, and all public figures to not traffic in anti-Semitism.”

Omar’s comments were widely criticized by members of both political parties, and she eventually apologized and deleted the tweet.
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(03-15-2019 08:57 PM)Sgt Donger Wrote:  
(03-15-2019 08:11 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  frequently lower end of intelligence.

he failed to achieve adulthood in any meaningful way (wife, kids, mission, home?).

This guy wasn't low intelligence...he may have been misdirected in his thinking but he conceived a plan, acquired the hardware, set up the livelink thing, got into the headspace to drive the car and start shooting and then managed to get arrested without being shot himself.

Failing to achieve adulthood...that is a problem for many males, particularly in western countries such as NZ and Australia.

Young men in cities are now faced with the following reality...it's a struggle to get secure employment > they can't secure a home > they can't offer a secure home for a wife > they don't have kids

What's left? Mission...

Yes, indeed.

Rod Dreher has a piece at American Conservative that succinctly summarizes the intelligence of Brenton Tarrant's case for action: "Racialization & Degeneration" https://www.theamericanconservative.com/...t/?print=1 .

And it very concisely reiterates the many points of agreement with the many made here are Roochv. Of course, Dreher rejects Tarrant's course of action.

Yet we may also agree that only organization, information, plus time can ever make the time right - or rather, ripe - for action. In other words, Lenin's point about action-strategy being all about identifying and finding that revolutionary moment where the hinge of history can turn, and then pushing on it.

I highly recommend Rod Dreher's summary of "The Great Replacement." It is a summary of the decline we face and the problems that we are acutely aware. And thus it serves a fine purpose for opening discussion and deeper thinking.

I'm going through the 52 comments. One readily repeats a meme in this thread, ie, surprise that this hasn't happened sooner. Or, in different words, there's a great deal of neglected cause for widespread discontent and complaint from the middle-classes.

One commenter laments the decline of London, witnessed over many years. Another suggest reviving non-minorities celebrations like for Irish immigrants or Italians as in how Columbus Day used to be celebrated for about a century. Revivals are long past yet now overdue.

Naturally, we all know why this isn't gonna happen: indoctrination (or induction) of guilt by "educrats."

But without an alternative, a powderkeg is inevitable because were all know that conventional sources of leadership are too absent and lack any serious "leadership" authority.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." -John F Kennedy

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I was thinking about why I don't feel much sympathy for the victims of this shooting, and a lot of it comes down to the responses non-violent Muslims almost universally give to Islamist attacks. I've never once heard a Muslim say something like "oh that's terrible those people are evil psychopaths and I absolutely disavow them", it's always justifying the attack based on Western military/economic actions in the middle east, Western support of Israel, or something about lack of respect for Islam. No matter how reprehensible the actions of their fellow believers they circle the wagons (unless it's the wrong sect).

Obviously this doesn't justify the premise of collective guilt, but it does disincline one towards sympathy.
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