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What am i missing?
I read a lot of complaints about western white women saying how they are the worst, how western culture is toxic, and guys should just go overseas to get women, etc. Yet at the same time, these same guys are saying how third world cultures are ruining the west, immigration is bad, whites should protect their culture, etc. If white western culture is so superior and great than why are guys constantly railing against how "toxic" it is and how shitty their women are? I agree that white cultures tend do breed the worst women, so shouldnt we be pro immigration?..pro outside culture influence? I cant seem to reconcile how a lot of guys preach these two conflicting ideals. What am i missing?
03-16-2019 12:59 PM
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RE: What am i missing?
Western culture was great 100, even 50 years ago. It started to get subverted after WWII, perhaps sooner, and it gets exponentially worse by every year and day.

Good western culture is Homer, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Archimedes, Jesus Christ, Marcus Aurelius, The Poetic Edda, Rene Descartes, Immanuel Kant, Mozart, St. Augustine, Beethoven, Presumption of Innocence, Unalienable human rights, Sanitation, Scientific Method, Karl Gustav Jung and similar.

Bad western culture is Lady Gaga, Feminism, Karl Marx, Communism, Sigmund Freud, Socialism, LGBT, Atheism and similar.
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03-16-2019 01:10 PM
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RE: What am i missing?
I think you're looking at this from a perspective that is too broad. A westerner leaving Canada for a couple weeks/months to find a suitable partner because they have attractive qualities doesn't really have anything to do with Syria sending over 40,000 refugees to Canada when homeless Canadians are dying on the streets.

I also think that when people say things like 'preserving Western culture' they're talking more about countries in Europe where there is an actual culture, like France, Spain, Austria, Italy, etc. where things like religion and a general way of life have been ingrained for thousands of years. The culture of those countries is literally dying (if not already dead).

I don't think anyone wants to preserve US/Canadian/UK culture (since these places are just made up of immigrants anyways). People are ok with these immigrants coming into these countries as long as they pull their weight and actually bring a positive impact to their country, which unfortunately most don't.
03-16-2019 01:13 PM
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The old redpill saying: Women are water, society is the vase, and men are the sculptors. Bring women from foreign countries and they will adapt to the new host country's culture. Its no different than thousands of years ago when tribes defeated another tribe and took their women for the purpose of introducing new genetic diversity.
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03-16-2019 02:31 PM
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The sky isn’t falling.
03-16-2019 02:42 PM
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RE: What am i missing?
No, we should not be pro-immigration because most of the people who immigrate are in fact men. I mean, guys usually want to fuck hot Eastern European and SEA women here and they're usually not what is being brought in to the West unless they're hookers.

Instead, what we have, are mostly men from shit hole countries (in the Middle East and Northern Africa) with shitty culture.
And Arab men can often be very racist and they're protective of their women and have their honor culture, which will make it hard for you even if you would consider some Arab woman.

[Image: Migrants-Crowds-Cross-Into-Slovenia-Getty-640x480.jpg]

See many women?

Besides, the crime rates go up, they're a burden to the economy and bring their shitty primitive culture and they will vote left. So if you make a cost-benefit analysis it's not worth the pussy even if these 3rd World chicks were all sweet and polite 10's (which they're not).

It's not like you can use illiterate Somalis to that much in the workforce.
I remember this liberal Scandinavian politician a few years ago who suggested that they should create new jobs for these at companies, where they were just supposed to go and pick up buns and coffee for colleagues (who actually did some real work).

Multiculturalism today is not really "multi", it should be called 3-culturalism since it's just the whites, Arabs and the Africans (unfortunately not the better type of Africans but Somalis etc). Sometimes I might see descendants of the communist Chilean refugees here though, all leftists of course.
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03-16-2019 02:46 PM
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RE: What am i missing?
Take Vietnam for example. Its nearly impossible for them to immigrate to the West despite the fact they would do anything to do so. Anyone who has been to Vietnam knows its one of the greatest cultures in the world. They're smart, hard working and law abiding. Yet the West doesn't accept them. (((They))) only take in shitty ass cultures that creat division and chaos.
03-16-2019 02:49 PM
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(03-16-2019 02:49 PM)RIslander Wrote:  Take Vietnam for example. Its nearly impossible for them to immigrate to the West despite the fact they would do anything to do so. Anyone who has been to Vietnam knows its one of the greatest cultures in the world. They're smart, hard working and law abiding. Yet the West doesn't accept them. (((They))) only take in shitty ass cultures that creat division and chaos.

Lots of Vietnamese can be found in Germany. From my own experience, they are very polite and hard working.
03-16-2019 04:16 PM
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RE: What am i missing?
I'll keep it succinct:

On the whole, western culture is far superior to any other culture on earth. But it has its problems. One of those problems is failing to produce an adequate supply of loyal, feminine, non-fat women willing to settle down at an early age and give their peak years to a husband who's reasonably evenly matched in terms of looks and status.

Other cultural regions, such as Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, and LatAm, have more abundant and more severe problems. They just do not have this particular one, at least not nearly to the same degree.

It's as simple as that.
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03-16-2019 07:04 PM
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(03-16-2019 07:04 PM)Delta Wrote:  I'll keep it succinct:

On the whole, western culture is far superior to any other culture on earth. But it has its problems. One of those problems is failing to produce an adequate supply of loyal, feminine, non-fat women willing to settle down at an early age and give their peak years to a husband who's reasonably evenly matched in terms of looks and status.

Other cultural regions, such as Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, and LatAm, have more abundant and more severe problems. They just do not have this particular one, at least not nearly to the same degree.

It's as simple as that.

I am not going to say you're wrong, however, I disagree. What is most important in life? We're all going to die and we can't take our wealth with us. Western culture does not provide happiness... it provides the opportunity to accumulate wealth. Western men for the most part, and there are plenty of exceptions, are worker drones who come home to a fat entitled wife. Or an empty one bedroom apartment.

In my travels throughout the 3rd world I noticed people, despite not having money, are... well, they're happy. They live a stone's throw from their extended family, have cultural rituals and traditions, incredible food and they lack the stress of owning excessive material belongings. They work during the day and meet at a local restaurant with their friends in the evening for dinner, perhaps a drink or two and conversation/playing a game.

What do Americans do for recreation? From 20-30 you got your crew... you maybe do outdoor stuff but most just sit around getting drunk. Then after 30 everyone drifts apart and unless you married young to a decent woman and have kids there isn't much to do socially. That's our problem.
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03-16-2019 07:24 PM
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RE: What am i missing?
Just as those lesser societies require a stern 'strongman' to keep them all in check with an iron fist.
So to, do western women require a 'stern hand / voice' to keep them in check.

For both situations, there is a distinct lack of 'stern hands'...
03-16-2019 07:27 PM
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(03-16-2019 07:24 PM)RIslander Wrote:  
(03-16-2019 07:04 PM)Delta Wrote:  I'll keep it succinct:

On the whole, western culture is far superior to any other culture on earth. But it has its problems. One of those problems is failing to produce an adequate supply of loyal, feminine, non-fat women willing to settle down at an early age and give their peak years to a husband who's reasonably evenly matched in terms of looks and status.

Other cultural regions, such as Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, and LatAm, have more abundant and more severe problems. They just do not have this particular one, at least not nearly to the same degree.

It's as simple as that.

I am not going to say you're wrong, however, I disagree. What is most important in life? We're all going to die and we can't take our wealth with us. Western culture does not provide happiness... it provides the opportunity to accumulate wealth. Western men for the most part, and there are plenty of exceptions, are worker drones who come home to a fat entitled wife. Or an empty one bedroom apartment.

In my travels throughout the 3rd world I noticed people, despite not having money, are... well, they're happy. They live a stone's throw from their extended family, have cultural rituals and traditions, incredible food and they lack the stress of owning excessive material belongings. They work during the day and meet at a local restaurant with their friends in the evening for dinner, perhaps a drink or two and conversation/playing a game.

What do Americans do for recreation? From 20-30 you got your crew... you maybe do outdoor stuff but most just sit around getting drunk. Then after 30 everyone drifts apart and unless you married young to a decent woman and have kids there isn't much to do socially. That's our problem.

I agree that western culture overemphasizes materialism at the expense of other aspects of life, and having recently entered my 30's, I can relate all too well to your last point. That said, I believe you're romanticizing life in poor countries. Just because you witnessed some people smiling and having a good time in such places doesn't mean their overall quality of life is high. Consider what you're not seeing: The strenuous and menial work they do all day, the violent crime, the disease, the sweating their balls off trying to sleep without A/C, the cramped living conditions where everyone is getting on each other's nerves, the lack of opportunity to have interesting hobbies or see the rest of the world, the dealing with corrupt police and government officials... the list goes on.

Consider this: If poor people in places like LatAm are so happy, why are they going through hell to try and live in the United States?
03-16-2019 07:51 PM
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(03-16-2019 12:59 PM)cruzinV Wrote:  I read a lot of complaints about western white women saying how they are the worst, how western culture is toxic, and guys should just go overseas to get women, etc. Yet at the same time, these same guys are saying how third world cultures are ruining the west, immigration is bad, whites should protect their culture, etc. If white western culture is so superior and great than why are guys constantly railing against how "toxic" it is and how shitty their women are? I agree that white cultures tend do breed the worst women, so shouldnt we be pro immigration?..pro outside culture influence? I cant seem to reconcile how a lot of guys preach these two conflicting ideals. What am i missing?

Western culture isn't bad, the mistake that has been made is to give women the vote and allow them to earn money. I also believe anything beyond Reading, Writing and mathematics, Women should not be educated. Have you been to Uganda? Every young lady bows and holds the mans hand. They have respect and listen to their men. Unfortunately, African culture is also being Eroded. The Globo Homos are working hard to erode the purity of women in all cultures.
03-16-2019 09:55 PM
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