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(03-28-2019 06:28 AM)fktax Wrote:  
(03-27-2019 09:39 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  Yes, foods such as sauerkraut and kimchi have trillions (and dozens of types) of good bacteria that will colonize your gut and crowd out the bad forms of bacteria. I try to eat a small portion every day.

I was reading about kimchi the other day and my girl found a recipe with it but I have no idea where to find it.

Is there a brand/place to get it easily in Europe? It seems to have a lot of benefits, but I'm not having much luck here.

Sauerkraut isn't for me, I don't like the taste at all.

In the U.S., I buy kimchi in huge bottles at Korean supermarkets. Do a Google search for your area. The fermentation in Kimchi actually breaks down certain types of pesticides in your body:

Quote:A study took a look at the of microorganisms in the degradation of the organophosphorus insecticide chlorpyrifos during kimchi fermentation.

During the fermentation of kimchi, the insecticide degraded rapidly until day 3, and had degraded completely by day 9. Four lactic acid bacteria were identified as being responsible for the effect.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic...cides.aspx
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(03-28-2019 07:26 AM)Mikestar Wrote:  So I have experimented now a bit more, bringing back gluten. I have realised it may not just be gluten but rather cheap processed carbohydrates, I used to eat cheap wholemeal and the cheapest pasta nearly everyday (Student meals) and now after stopping touching that it has been fluctuating.

The thing is I used to live in Italy and eat high quality breads and pastas everyday - and no brain fog. So maybe it’s all about being processed. I have also been eating tons of yoghurt for the bacteria, I can’t say that my brain fog doesn’t come back from time to time, but it has reduced. I have also began using creatine and experienced mild brain fog relief, but I cannot say whether this is effective or not.

Refer to my post number 11:

Quote: I can go to Europe and drink beer and eat bread with no problems, but doing so in the U.S. makes me sick as hell.

Much of Europe does not allow GMO wheats, the use of Roundup as an insecticide and desicant, or hybridized Franken-wheat with huge levels of gluten that have never before existed in history. You are also correct about processed foods: gluten is often added as a binder.
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(03-28-2019 10:19 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  I felt a significant improvement (i.e., a whole point better, on a health scale of 1-10), after just a few weeks. Some people are so sensitive to gluten, however, that just a small accidental exposure can affect their health for up to 6-8 months. That means that they need to have no exposure to gluten whatsoever for up to 6-8 months to realize normal health. Everyone is different.

What`s the science behind this? 6-8 months is extremely long.

I have more or less given up on nutritional advice and find this very accurate:
https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/commen...dium=web2x

I am cutting out gluten however, or at the very least reducing it a lot, because there is actual science (danish publication) that came out fairly recently saying the fibers in gluten can cause changes to your gut bacteria and low gluten intake can help with gas and protruding gut (despite not being fat).

I don`t know about the 6-8 months completely gluten free though..
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(03-28-2019 11:27 AM)RiskIt4Biscuit Wrote:  
(03-28-2019 10:19 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  I felt a significant improvement (i.e., a whole point better, on a health scale of 1-10), after just a few weeks. Some people are so sensitive to gluten, however, that just a small accidental exposure can affect their health for up to 6-8 months. That means that they need to have no exposure to gluten whatsoever for up to 6-8 months to realize normal health. Everyone is different.

What`s the science behind this? 6-8 months is extremely long.

In regard to gluten intolerance, I have heard the 6-8 month sensitivity period from three independent sources.

I do not have the time to delve into sources right now, but a quick Google search shows that, according to The Mayo Clinic, for "Celiac disease (gluten-sensitive enteropathy), sometimes called sprue or coeliac, is an immune reaction to eating gluten, a protein found in wheat, barley and rye," a 6-12 month period is not unusual: "If you continue to experience signs and symptoms despite following a gluten-free diet for six months to one year, your doctor may recommend further testing and look for other explanations for your symptoms."

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond...c-20352220
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Understood if it applies to gluten intolerance. That could be legit.
I don`t have that, and the vast majority here don`t either just because of some brain fog and a bit of gas.
I`d say its worth trying to eliminate for a few weeks, to see if it helps, but more than half a year is quite a commitment for an experiment. There can be 100 reasons for brain fog.
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I spent 3 months in Chile (just got back recently) and lost a few kilos. I was no more physically active than I was in Australia and I ate whatever I wanted whenever I felt like it. I suspect the weight loss was down to the fact that the food was more natural/less processed and more nutrient dense than Australia.

For example in Chile when I was passing through rural areas the cows are walking around eating grass (I never say cattle eating anything other than grass. Not saying it never happens but I did not see it). And the cows looked normal. They did not look super fat like cows in Australia or New Zealand.
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I'm showing a lot of the signs of Candida: https://draxe.com/candida-symptoms/

Ordered a whole bunch of fermented foods, probiotics, grapefruit extract, etc. I've read you do NOT want to take the G.F. extract at the same time as probiotics, as they will fight each other. Also looking into essential oils and CBD oils too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Candida/comment...m/cbd_oil/

Anyone else here been diagnosed with Candida? If so, how'd you treat it?

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(04-07-2019 02:15 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Anyone else here been diagnosed with Candida? If so, how'd you treat it?

Yes, my board certified nutritionist recommended Lauricidin, a natural, plant-based medium-chain fat derived from lauric acid from coconut. It worked well. In fact, it worked so well that I received a Herxheimer reaction with flu-like systems for ten days. That happens when the candida die off so quickly that your body's ability to eliminate all the waste and toxins is overwhelmed. Lauricidin is cheaper on its home page than on Amazon. You will need at least several jars.

https://www.lauricidin.com/#shopping

In hindsight, I now know that you can avoid a Herxheimer reaction (not everyone gets one BTW) by sauna therapy and also by clearing all of your detoxification pathways before detoxification. This will help prevent a Herxheimer reaction.

You want to make sure that your colon, liver, gallbladder, lymphatic system, and skin pathways (all of the drainage pathways) are all clear. You want to prep all these drainage pathways as best you can before detoxification, so that your body does not get overwhelmed with waste and toxins. This sounds like common-sense, but you would be surprised how many people place the cart before the horse. I know that I did. Live and learn.
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(04-07-2019 02:15 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  I'm showing a lot of the signs of Candida: https://draxe.com/candida-symptoms/

Ordered a whole bunch of fermented foods, probiotics, grapefruit extract, etc. I've read you do NOT want to take the G.F. extract at the same time as probiotics, as they will fight each other. Also looking into essential oils and CBD oils too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Candida/comment...m/cbd_oil/

Anyone else here been diagnosed with Candida? If so, how'd you treat it?

Fascinating, thanks for sharing. I suffer from many of these may be interesting to try a cleanse..
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I now understand why I had brain frog from gluten thanks to this thread, I checked the back of my tongue and there are white/red spots, it's candidiasis. I haven't had the chance to go to the doctor but got a gel, it has not been effective, what are some home remedies I can try?
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(04-16-2019 10:03 AM)Mikestar Wrote:  I now understand why I had brain frog from gluten thanks to this thread, I checked the back of my tongue and there are white/red spots, it's candidiasis. I haven't had the chance to go to the doctor but got a gel, it has not been effective, what are some home remedies I can try?

A doctor will likely prescribe Fluconazole. I always try the natural route first. I just discussed what I used for candida overgrowth in post #33. Oregano oil capsules also work really well (and will also get rid of parasites). In terms of a pure home remedy, raw garlic is great. If your candida is really severe, you may need to cycle between natural remedies for a number of months to get your candida overgrowth under control. In its most virulent form candida morphs from a mere round, single-celled yeast into a long stringy fungal structure, which can seriously affect your health. A cure make take as long as 6-9 months.

I typically do not push people or products, but if you have a serious candida problem I recommend that you watch all the free YouTube videos by Eric Bakker, a naturopathic physician from New Zealand. He also sells an e-book about candida and his own product, which contains almost all the natural products that patients traditionally spent months cycling between to control candida. When I had candida, I watched all of his videos.

https://www.yeastinfection.org/about-eric-bakker/



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Update: I've yet to go hardcore on any anti-Candida plan just yet, but I have radically changed my diet and it has already made me feel better with lifted energy levels and less brain fog.

I stopped the following:

- Removed all gluten from the diet, got rid of anything with bleached flour, etc.
- Stopped using any product with highly processed oils like Canola, Corn, Palm, Vegtable, Soybean, etc.
- Stopped consuming any sugar, HFCS, etc. Period.

I've added in the following:

+ Tons of organic leafy greens
+ Wild caught salmon and grass-fed organic beef for healthy fat and proteins

I'm still doing intermittent fasting, and that's helping lose a few extra pounds I don't need either. I'm about to go on a business trip, but will be back in a few weeks and post again once I start doing the more hardcore stuff like bone broth, etc.

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I find the gluten-free diet BS. Western civilization was build with a gluten diet (bread/wheat). It’s like Asians coming with a new rice-free diet.

Your improvement might be a false positive.
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(04-16-2019 07:28 PM)joost Wrote:  I find the gluten-free diet BS. Western civilization was build with a gluten diet (bread/wheat). It’s like Asians coming with a new rice-free diet.

Your improvement might be a false positive.

Glyphosate is sprayed heavily on wheat here in the United States, whereas it is banned in other parts of the world. Combined with GMO's (which the safety of which is still up in the air), wheat itself may not always be harmful, but it isn't always exactly safe either.

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(07-17-2019 01:47 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  
(04-16-2019 07:28 PM)joost Wrote:  I find the gluten-free diet BS. Western civilization was build with a gluten diet (bread/wheat). It’s like Asians coming with a new rice-free diet.

Your improvement might be a false positive.

Glyphosate is sprayed heavily on wheat here in the United States, whereas it is banned in other parts of the world. Combined with GMO's (which the safety of which is still up in the air), wheat itself may not always be harmful, but it isn't always exactly safe either.

If you do the research, the safety of GMOs is not really in dispute. I do not eat anything that might possibly be made from GMOs. I have a friend who gets MS flareups whenever she eats any GMO food.
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(04-16-2019 07:28 PM)joost Wrote:  I find the gluten-free diet BS. Western civilization was build with a gluten diet (bread/wheat). It’s like Asians coming with a new rice-free diet.

Your improvement might be a false positive.

It's more likely as a function of cutting out gluten, he removed foods which cause spikes of insulin. Who knows though everyone is different.
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I've been raised on a lot of bread and the importance of the energy from it. And I do wanna say I LOVE wheat, its cheap, you can make pretty much anything with it when cooking and you make such great tasting food with ease. But I need to keep it as low as possible.

Personal experience when I eat wheat, started cutting out wheat close to 10 years ago and been on and off for short and long periods.

-I do get back pain and a really big anterior pelvic tilt, thought I was built like that but my gut muscles (beyond abs) do not work as they should as holding against the back muscles when I've eaten wheat, you about IBS because I look swollen but its my back bending, this is so strong that I can not choose to get in a good position no matter how much I stretch or try.
-I feel a sense of inflammation as in hard to breath thru my nose and naturally then breathing with my mouth open (sexy as f*ck), if I've pushed my joints in any way then they will feel a bit bad, not rally pain, atleast not much but I feel them and It's not a good feeling.
-Brain fog, I feel tired and pretty much get stuck behind a tv or phone just waiting for a bit of energy.
-Not only wheat but its the strongest it seems, I only go to the bathroom around every 3rd day (this may give clues on my first one with the back pain and gut muscles).


Cutting wheat have not solved everything for me but it is the one thing that have done the biggest difference, my tip is to go on and off it for at least a couple of weeks at the time and do that several times. If you really don't feel any difference, then don't waste your energy trying to avoid it.
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I found this thread as I thought that there is a waxing and waning effect of candida in the gut and I think a lot of it has to do with balance. Just like with viruses, your immune system has to keep them at bay. I know that I have had candida overgrowth before, and am wary of the balance issues, but our bodies are so complex and it is all multi factorial so is very hard to pinpoint. Nevertheless, I can't explain (but will attempt to in a second) why I have near perfectly predictable symptoms of feeling off for a couple of months that then auto-corrects (almost to the day, seemingly diminshing in time slightly as I get older). Decreased cognition, possibly mild anhedonia and lack of motivation --- all relative to what I know is ideal or healthy for myself. The gut is a major neurotransmitter source and metabolizer, and these symptoms are clearly dopamine balance related. I think this is what people call "fog."

I have a changing diet, I fast intermittently, I work out, am totally healthy apart from this. It's not the biggest thing in the world you just have to fight through it, but it's annoying. Interestingly coffee becomes critical (dopamine) whereas during normal times this is just a cognition bonus and mood lifter like it always is.

I'm wondering if dosing the medium chain fatty acids like coconut oil, oregano oil, that grapefruit seed extract, etc. would work. I think a few years ago I took fluconazole and thought I might get a herxheimer or die off reaction but nothing happened. I don't think the fluconazole did much, either.

If anyone has further information about what to try to test and confirm this, or how to best go about things, I appreciate it. Thanks.

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(04-16-2019 07:28 PM)joost Wrote:  I find the gluten-free diet BS. Western civilization was build with a gluten diet (bread/wheat). It’s like Asians coming with a new rice-free diet.

Your improvement might be a false positive.

Western civilization was not built on a gluten diet. Yes, Asians have been cultivating rice for centuries, but Western wheat is a relatively new innovation. The Roundup and GMOs doesn't help either. Best to stay clear of that stuff in the US.
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The things that give me brainfog are, in this order
1) Any exposure to weed
2) Too much or too little salt
3) Too much caffeine/stimulants over several days
4) Too much sugar or carbs with zero fiber
5) Rapid, massive temperature changes

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I'm still uncertain how people are defining this "brainfog". I can speak very specifically about brain activity (cognition/attentiveness), or psychosomatic things such as mood or motivation.

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(10-03-2019 09:06 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  I'm still uncertain how people are defining this "brainfog". I can speak very specifically about brain activity (cognition/attentiveness), or psychosomatic things such as mood or motivation.

"Definition of brain fog: a usually temporary state of diminished mental capacity marked by inability to concentrate or to think or reason clearly"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/brain%20fog


This is way that I have always understood brain fog. For example, walking into a room and then forgetting why you did; placing something that belongs in the cupboard into the refrigerator (or vice versa); inability to concentrate or to read for more than a few minutes; etc. I have never included mood or motivation in the definition, but they can both certainly be side effects of brain fog because brain fog affects your quality of life, thereby affecting your mood and motivation.

I disagree with the definition only to the degree that it is usually only a "temporary state." If you do not fix the underlying problem that causes the brain fog, then this "temporary state" becomes permanent because you continue to fuel it with poor diet, poor sleep hygiene, lack of exercise, poor stress relief, etc.
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Ok, no worries, I guess this doesn't apply to me, just wondering about what people experience.

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