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RE: The God pill
(12-01-2019 05:46 AM)oscp Wrote:  
Quote:An unwillingness to get their hands dirty on the JQ is the surest sign that someone is a cuck or a shill.
Leonard D Neubache

So a 'Muslim' Concern trolling over this forum moving away from hedonism toward God and using an example of Jewish criticism as extremism.

oy vey sounds legit.

(09-19-2019 04:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  You cannot win playing in the enemy's house by the enemy's rules with the enemy acting as referee.
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Unfinished business:

@Benvenuto

See my deleted post.

(((Roosh))) (do a google search on him), you cannot answer my questions so you delete me? Shut it down?

Qur'an

As a reminder, Islam is about OT Monotheism, only the OT God is to be worshipped alone. If you worship other than him, of stone or canvas, of men or women or of abstract, you have setup another god and are guilty of Polytheism. This is the worst form of inversion.

To practice Islam, one follows the five pillars. Islam does not ask you except to pray five times a day to your Creator, fast for the LORD, to pilgrim to the House of the God and tithe 2.5% of your possessions to your poor and disabled in your community.

Islam bans what is clearly wrong, recommends the clearly good and leaves the rest free for the peoples to self-determine.

I will let the Qur'an speak for itself, all of these chapters are 30-5 minutes in length (length in minutes in italics):

There are lectures explaining the chapters if you wish more information.

I grew up with Christianity and the Bible before accepting Islam.

People, red-pill is just human social dynamics and womens desires follow patterns. Invest in yourselves and your Game, get a good match on marriage and move on. You need a life, not hate. Remember to tithe from your surplus to the poor and the weak in our community.

Stay clear of Nietzsche's black-pill (uber-chad v unter-virgin) disguised as red-pill. Do not buy extreme politics disguised as red-pill.

God pill

Being in the God-pill thread, I will share some wisdom for you from the Qur'an, which is useful whether Christian, Jewish or even Atheist.

There is a very small chapter in the Qur'an, not longer than a few verses, that has so much wisdom, entire books can be dedicated to it.



Qur'an Chapter 103 (Sahih International translation):

After:
أَعُوذُ باللَّهِ مِنَ الشَّيْطاَنِ الرَّجيم
بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحمانِ الرَّحِيمِ

Quote:وَالْعَصْرِ۝
إِنَّ الْإِنسَانَ لَفِي خُسْرٍ‌۝
إِلَّا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالْحَقِّ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالصَّبْرِ۝

The first two verses:
By time,(1) Indeed, mankind is in loss,(2)

Allah has sworn an oath by Time (asr) here and has said that mankind is in loss and destruction (khusr).

There is a relationship between time, and human loss. All movements, actions and speech - the entire life of a human, take place in time, and you are losing time every second.

This is your most valuable asset. Invest it in good - in this and the next.

The last verse:
Except for those who have believed (Iman) and done righteous deeds and advised each other to truth (Haqq) and advised each other to patience (Sabr).(3)

The conditions excepting one from loss are:
  • Iman (Faith)
  • Good works
  • Advising one another to Haqq (Truth, justice, right and duty)
  • Advising one another to Sabr (Patience, forbearance, fortitude)

The first two are individual in nature and the latter two are social. These four principles are solid no matter who you are and where you are from.

Haqq and Sabr are big words with many meanings that occupy a similar areas respectively. One who has judged rightly and just, has told the Haqq. One who has fulfilled his rights and duties has fulfilled his Haqq. One who has made great personal sacrifices for his Iman (faith) has displayed Sabr. One who resisted against temptation has displayed Sabr. These are very difficult and hard to maintain and we need support from each other.

As for faith, on this forum, it is up to you to study and learn for your own personal individual salvation. I believe in the solid monotheism of Islam that has been the tradition of Prophets (pbut).

Hours and hours of lectures and pages and pages of explanation can be dedicated to this chapter, and there is more where it came from.

Quote:If mankind was to act upon this chapter it would be sufficient for them.
Imam Al-Shafi'i

والله اعلم
(And Allah knows best)

Discussing how lost others are does not do help to guide you, it is not good to keep dwelling on bad news. Perhaps a subforum on ethics and good works would be a good new direction.

Value your time brothers, invest it in yourselves, good works and charity - the things that count. Even small natural things like providing for your family and greeting your friends count as good works.

Invest some of the time in yourselves and your SMVs and learn Game to get a good deal for your SMVs (in marriage). Understand the red-pill, then move on to building a life, do not dwell on it.

Misrepresentations

Islam is probably the worlds most misrepresented religion. You do not have to be a Muslim to agree to that.

Even the etymology of Islam is not safe from trolls and organized charlatans. Islam is derived from the 4th verb form (aslama - past 3rd person, yuslimu - present 3rd person, islam - noun) of the consonantal triliteral root S-L-M (peace). It literally means voluntary submission. Its lexical opposite would be Ikrah (compulsion) from K-R-H (hate). What does the Qur'an say about compulsion in religion?

Quran Wrote:There shall be no compulsion (Ikrah) in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong.
2:256

What do they do? They deny any link between Islam and S-L-M and say that Islam comes from the word Istislam, also from S-L-M, which means surrender (not voluntary submission). It is already a verbal noun and another cannot be derived from it. The audience of this lie are obviously the unsuspecting non-Arabic speaking people.

Another misrepresentation is taking verses and phrases out of their contexts. This is what trolls, haters and terror groups have in common actually. There is an example of this in here, on this forum. Verses of Chapter 9 were taken out of context and interpreted as a general "kill everyone" verse followed by mentions of crusades. The verses obviously had a context, the unlawful killing of an ambassador. The problems with claims like these are that they end up with the assumption of guilt and the Muslim having to keep fetching the context, especially when they are done in great number. This is usually made when the charlatan is confident that they will not be confronted with the evidence.

There are also weird fringe theories/claims such as:
  • That Muhammad (pbuh) did not exist
  • Denying that Muslims and Christians worship the same God (even though Jews admit that they do)
  • Vatican conspiracy ??
  • That Muslims do not punish terrorists nor even criticize them (they do, while trying to avoid being targeted), also suicide (even in War) is a mortal sin in Islam
  • Syriac lectionaries

As well as the occasional ad hominem, both direct and passive aggressive.

There are strawmen of:
  • The cultural type - "Muslim community A does X therefore Islam teaches X" - What about the neighboring non-Muslims, do they do X? Where does X originate?
  • The geopolitical type - "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim" - Do similar political and social conditions cause similar results? Air India 182, the deadliest aviation terrorism before 9/11 was done by Sikhs
  • The historical type - "Muslims in region A did X in the Y era to the ethnic group Z" - Muslims or an ethnic group who is Muslim? People extend ethnic tensions to religions.

Before I get taken out of context, I condemn all of the Middle-Eastern terror groups and their tactics, it is not justifiable (killing innocents and suicide are mortal sins). When you have 100s of thousands suffering, idiots will defect to heresy to get some action done.

Medieval European literature portrayed Muslims as worshipping their own trinity, mirroring Christianity. Of course, now that everyone has access to Google, this is not propagated anymore.

There are just so many lies and strawmen out there and more are being invented as each one is rebutted. The liars are monopolizing the opposition and squeezing out the legit arguments against (at least from the opposing perspective).

One does not have to be a Muslim to agree that Islam has been and is being grossly misrepresented politically and theologically.

Elephants

After the forum completely ceased being a Game and Travel forum, it lost its purpose in being a useful tool in having a good time and building a life (IRL). Discussing geopolitics with conspiracy theorists and irrational skeptics is a very unattractive proposition. The conspiracy theories and extremism killed the credibility of this forum for me.

I also did want my contributions on improving life to be next to a Petri Dish of Extremism and Conspiracies which was intentionally and creepily placed next to advice on Game, Travel and general self improvement for nearly 10 years. This is softcore extremism made accessible to young military aged men. Why are you bridging political extremism into Christianity? What are you trying to do?

Simeon Strangelight and Leonard D Neubache, how do you get to post 10 to 14 posts a day around the clock, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week (I have tested) and how do you pay for your lifestyles?

How did you fit in approaching and building your SMV while doing all of this including your presence online outside of this forum?

Where do you get your massive libraries of memes and stats?

How did these extremists get away with breaking the rules with such impunity?

People, if you were offended by the posts here before and now not, you have been desensitized to blood hate and disrespect of the human being who was created by God. This is incompatible with fearing/loving God. You are spreading hate not Love. You are not going to be there to interpret your posts to the lurkers when they read them. Dude... you cannot even control who reads them, many are impressionable minors who think you are successful players. Some are idiots who will go on to do violence.

Roosh, you have unpublished books, let former members who disagree with you unpublish valuable posts. Any less is hypocritical.

By placing the content behind registration, you are drawing in lurkers and trapping them in your hateful cult.

I am asking so that members do not risk a ban... or even complete deletion wow.
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Hilarious psycho - accusing Roosh of being a Zionist. The only hateful psycho is you who is unable to realize the reality of things. The Persian Imam of Peace as they call him clearly understands the bloody nature and history of Islam, but hopes to change it. You are nothing more than a blind moron who is also beholden to the mainstream believing stupid NYTimes dogma on top of it.
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Simeon Strangelight and Leonard D Neubache, how do you get to post 10 to 14 posts a day around the clock, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week (I have tested) and how do you pay for your lifestyles?

How did you fit in approaching and building your SMV while doing all of this including your presence online outside of this forum? How do you look IRL?

This forum has a past.

Where do you get your massive libraries of memes and stats?

How did these extremists get away with breaking the rules with such impunity? They are feared by the membership here!

The conclusions and opinions on this forum were not reached naturally, Roosh is controlling the conversations by deleting/banning the members and having a big share in the comments.

And Game=Hedonism??? How will you get yourselves wives and pious lives? Do you even...

People, if you were offended by the extreme posts here before and now not, you have been desensitized to blood hate and disrespect of the human being who was created by God. This is incompatible with fearing/loving God. You are spreading hate not Love.

You are not going to be there to interpret your posts to the lurkers when they read them. Dude... you cannot even control who reads them, many are impressionable minors who think you are successful players. Some are idiots who will go on to do violence.

I am doing more to defend Christianity that you lot now. Roosh is trying to incept an extremist movement in it by exposing young males to softcore extremism.

IRT? Is that the excuse for shutting discussion down? How does an Indian wind up with a Christian past?

Think about what I am saying... Roosh keeps shutting my account down, there is something worth hearing out.

"Hateful", "Psycho", coming from you Simeon Strangelight? Your posts chat so much hate and disrespect about humans, you have absolutely zero sympathy, even cracking jokes posting about disasters.
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I wonder how a spergy retard like you looks like when your giant text-walls already scream autism?
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(12-02-2019 03:52 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  I wonder how a spergy retard like you looks like when your giant text-walls already scream autism?

He stalks people online checking how much they post, comes trolling to a Christian forum as a member of Islam, and says he has a message worthy to be heard.

Legit.

Deus vult!
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RE: The God pill
(12-02-2019 02:47 AM)redkamaki Wrote:  People, red-pill is just human social dynamics and womens desires follow patterns. Invest in yourselves and your Game, get a good match on marriage and move on. You need a life, not hate. Remember to tithe from your surplus to the poor and the weak in our community.

Stay clear of Nietzsche's black-pill (uber-chad v unter-virgin) disguised as red-pill. Do not buy extreme politics disguised as red-pill.

By time,(1) Indeed, mankind is in loss,(2)

Allah has sworn an oath by Time (asr) here and has said that mankind is in loss and destruction (khusr).

There is a relationship between time, and human loss. All movements, actions and speech - the entire life of a human, take place in time, and you are losing time every second.

This is your most valuable asset. Invest it in good - in this and the next.

The last verse:
Except for those who have believed (Iman) and done righteous deeds and advised each other to truth (Haqq) and advised each other to patience (Sabr).(3)

The conditions excepting one from loss are:
  • Iman (Faith)
  • Good works
  • Advising one another to Haqq (Truth, justice, right and duty)
  • Advising one another to Sabr (Patience, forbearance, fortitude)

The first two are individual in nature and the latter two are social. These four principles are solid no matter who you are and where you are from.

Haqq and Sabr are big words with many meanings that occupy a similar areas respectively. One who has judged rightly and just, has told the Haqq. One who has fulfilled his rights and duties has fulfilled his Haqq. One who has made great personal sacrifices for his Iman (faith) has displayed Sabr. One who resisted against temptation has displayed Sabr. These are very difficult and hard to maintain and we need support from each other.

As for faith, on this forum, it is up to you to study and learn for your own personal individual salvation.

Discussing how lost others are does not do help to guide you, it is not good to keep dwelling on bad news. Perhaps a subforum on ethics and good works would be a good new direction.

Value your time brothers, invest it in yourselves, good works and charity - the things that count. Even small natural things like providing for your family and greeting your friends count as good works.

Invest some of the time in yourselves and your SMVs and learn Game to get a good deal for your SMVs (in marriage). Understand the red-pill, then move on to building a life, do not dwell on it.

Before I get taken out of context, I condemn all of the Middle-Eastern terror groups and their tactics, it is not justifiable (killing innocents and suicide are mortal sins). When you have 100s of thousands suffering, idiots will defect to heresy to get some action done.

Why are you bridging political extremism into Christianity? What are you trying to do?

If this was all you posted, this would have been a very good post. There's a lot of truth in what you say, about the basic state of man, and the urgency of time, in which we should pursue faith.

(12-02-2019 02:47 AM)redkamaki Wrote:  Discussing how lost others are does not do help to guide you, it is not good to keep dwelling on bad news. Perhaps a subforum on ethics and good works would be a good new direction.

Cannot agree more. Point out the error, learn from it, move on.

(12-02-2019 02:47 AM)redkamaki Wrote:  As a reminder, Islam is about OT Monotheism, only the OT God is to be worshipped alone. If you worship other than him, of stone or canvas, of men or women or of abstract, you have setup another god and are guilty of Polytheism. This is the worst form of inversion.

Here's where the disagreement arises. Monotheism is like a brute blunt object, which divides the world into two, it's no mistake Islam has The Doctrine of Abrogation to deal with all it's inconsistencies. It reduces truth to sophistry. If you need an illustration to why sophistry is a corruption, I direct you to read Socrates' dialogue with Gorgias

http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/gree...rgias.html

The Holy Trinity is an integral part of life. It bridges two things, without the Trinity, we could have no understanding. God the Father bridges the void between man and God through the Holy Spirit manifesting in his Son, Jesus Christ. This is how the Christian can "put on Christ" if he acts in the manner of Christ. There is the perfect God/man, who existed in time, Jesus Christ. He showed the world the Father's will for man. Now, man is to follow his example, and through the Holy Spirit, become like Christ.

To drastically oversimplify this, in the world, is the way this plays out is that there are two nouns(people, place, or things), and the relationship between them is the third thing. This is why the number 3 is shaped like the humps of a camel, it crosses the desert separating two things. It's no mistake that the first real shape we can make involves 3 lines, the trinity is everywhere, you can't escape it in good faith.
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@Aboulia

Thank you for the reply!

You have a very interesting view about Monotheism and Trinity which I would love to debate/discuss to learn more about it. Unfortunately this forum has proven itself to be the wrong place to do so.

My biggest disagreement with the forum is that the honk pill thread and many other hedonistic/politically nihilist threads are placed near threads based of Theology.

Terrorist are honklers of religious (including secular religions) background. We have enough of those in the Middle East, with a pop. of 2 billion, we do not need Christian honklers.

In Islam, killing innocent civilians and committing suicide are mortal sins, plenty of hadith and verses to back this. The terrorists heresied and said that there are OK contexts for these. It was never OK to kill an innocent! Nor commit suicide! There is no abrogation to legalize this anywhere at all!

When faced with a stupid proposition, most people say "no-one is stupid enough to do this!", but you will always find someone stupid enough to fall for something. This is what I was warning about when saying "you are not there to interpret your posts when they are read".
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I recently started dating a long legged blonde girl from Nebraska. She's about a 7.5 or an 8. It would be weird to describe how we met on the forum, but it was kind of like this:





When we got back to her place, she said that she wanted me to "Christian Grey" her. Although I've never heard of this term before, I understood the reference. Needless to say, I abused her pretty well that night.

Also, I'd like to thank Roosh for being a good role model to me for the past 5 years.
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RE: The God pill
Anyone else interested in Gnostic Christianity?
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Why would Christians be interested in Gnosticism?

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“Why would Christians be interested in Gnosticism?”

Because of innate human curiosity - because sometimes we need to know.

The apocryphal texts contain within them pearls regarding the cosmological machinery as understood by The King of Kings. What is most concerning with regards to the Holy Bible is that all that Rav Yeshua knew is distilled into the most subtle parables. The particulars of His understanding are veiled, all that’s left a low resolution snap-shot. The cliffnotes of His teachings. There is wisdom in this, of course, yet there is also the guarantee of exploitation.

The Church - all these denominations - they are deeply human constructs. There is no organization that has survived the last two millennia unblemished. Unsurprisingly. The Catholic Church is infested by a global child-trafficking ring; the Orthodox Churches are intimately tied to national mafias and crime syndicates; the Protestant branches shift in slimey ways to appease the Spirit of the Times. This is no singular attack on the Church, for within the Buddhist traditions there are many Masters who are callous and even demonic, and World Jewry has such darkness behind it that just a glimpse of it deeply darkens the heart. As with all things human, there is a black darkness which circumscribes the Light.

The Gnostics, too, are imperfect. There are numerous corruptions which simmered within the various cults. However, within that library there are threads that have been preserved - and it is these threads that can reveal a deeper understanding of the Light.

Not without the potential for great confusion, I must admit.

The Word as presented by the Church is - in an attempt - a distillation. A pearl of pearls, a consolidation of tremendously complex prescriptions boiled down to a single point that can be held in the palm of the hand, that can be clutched.

“Yeshua is the son of YHWH ELOHIM.”

For some souls this is enough. More than enough - it is all that is needed to fulfill one’s Destiny. For others it is just the threshold.

In summation, while the Gnostic texts are not Christian they are of the Christ. Their reading requires a tremendous amount of discernment, yet there is certainly Logos within.

Personally, Gnostic thought led me back to Christ. This is not a prescription! My own circumstances are rather rare, as such the path that I took is not necessarily the path for others. That is life.
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Gnosticism isn't what the Apostles received from Christ, and hence is not of Christ at all. The idea that there's "secret wisdom" available to "only the wise" or "only the few" that somehow gives them spiritual advantage over the "unwashed illiterates" who only understand Christianity "from the Bible and the Church" is mental masturbation that feeds on the practitioner's ego and desire to feel special or be "part of the elite." It makes you feel smart because you have "secret knowledge," but the problem is that this simply inflates pride at the expense of the humility in which Christ actually works and heals.

St. Irenaeus wrote a massive volume, "Against Heresies" (or more accurately, "Refutation Of Knowledge Falsely So-Called"), in the mid second century picking apart and exposing every falsehood of the major streams of gnosticism (many of which claimed to be the "true Christian teaching.")

There is nothing new under the sun.

And for the record - since the typical gnostic's response to what I've just typed would be to categorize me as one of said illiterates who's just too dumb or prejudiced to understand or seek the "truth," I was a "gnostic Christian" before I became Orthodox. It was a necessary step for me on the way out of Masonry and the occult, but a step I'm quite happy to have moved beyond (and you will too, once you dig deeper and humble yourself enough to submit to the Apostolic teaching).

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It's not a good idea to promote a heresy when you have an 80% warning level for blasphemy.

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It seems this idea of the dimurge stems from the fact that they think God who demands worship and engages in judgment is a tyrant.

And trying to square the circle by separating this god they see as a tyrant from the ground of all being. As if they arent one and the same.

I have read some of Ireaneus' work on this. The heretics write so much fanfiction. And make up so much baseless claims.
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(12-03-2019 04:12 PM)Roosh Wrote:  It's not a good idea to promote a heresy when you have an 80% warning level for blasphemy.

I bet you never thought you'd ever say that when you started this forum.

That's not how we do things in Russia, comrade.

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Humour :

TODAY'S SHORT READING FROM THE BIBLE

From Genesis: "And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the earth."

Then he made the earth round and He laughed and laughed and laughed!


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