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Eddie W's 10-week Hardcore Snake-Diet Cut
I discovered the Snake Diet back in September of last year. I was immediately intrigued by the simplicity of it all, as well as the absolutely zero-bullshit attitude of its creator Cole Robinson. Between October 1st and December 3rd, by following the lifestyle's general principals, I cut from 185 to 155 (my weight as a scrawny high school distance runner) with maybe a 60-70% effort.

I had a wild eating binge for a full week while visiting family around Thanksgiving. I drank a moderate amount, including a few times when I got drunk and closed the night out with a pile of fast food. I was not particularly disciplined with my lifting schedule, sometimes taking 5+ days off from any kind of exercise. My refeeds were often way too big filled and filled with less than desirable food choices.

I still absolutely crushed my diet goal, which seemed crazy to me. The bottom line is that this shit works incredibly well, as shown by this guy:

   

During the cold winter months on the East Coast, I felt a bit down in the dumps and isolated myself alot of the time. I started getting into some bad habits, including heavier drinking, spending WAY too much time playing poker at the casino, and eating an absolutely trash diet. I gained back 15-20 of what I lost - however, all in all, a net loss of 10lbs from summer to spring is a decent accomplishment in itself.

Poker is now out of the picture, the weather is getting nicer, and I'm ready to focus and truly give this my best effort. I'm making this thread to not only hold myself accountable, but to show how simple and FAST fat loss can be, without drugs or supplements, as long as you have a clear goal and some discipline. I'll be fasting while working full time, taking classes online, and hopefully still getting laid and having a social life.

My Cut:

Age: 32
Height: 5'9"
Starting weight: 178.3lbs after my morning piss

   

My Tools:

-Snake Juice (water, potassium chrloride, Himilayan Pink Salt, Baking Soda, and Food Grade Epson Salts)
-6+ days a week of full body weight training following Snake Diet principles
-3+ days a week of HIIT or LSD cardio
-High fat, low carb diet

My cutting period will be over the course 10 weeks. I'll be starting out with a 72+ hour snake juice fast to get into ketosis ASAP, and then fall into a more regular eating schedule with 24-48 hour fasts, no more than one meal per day. I may allow myself up to two drinks during special occasions or a date. I may throw in a dry fast here and there, although those are pretty hard for me.

I think my ideal weight is around 155, obviously with as much muscle and
little fat as possible. I am shooting for 10% bodyfat or less. I will not be surprised if I hit 155 very quickly and then spend the remaining weeks lifting hard and eating more.

I'll post a daily journal update about what I ate and what my workout was, as well as progress photos at least once per week. In the meantime, I stongly suggest anyone here looking to lose weight starts educating themselves on the Snake Diet and gets cracking on their initial 48-hour fast ASAP.

Let's fucking get it.
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04-03-2019 10:32 AM
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HEY (EX-)FATTIE! Nice work! Smile

that snake juice is golden! I use it when I do a long fast and it makes fasting super easy

keep it up
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Get it Brother! I’m interested to see how the diet interacts with strength gains and general physical well-being (fatigue and recovery and all that sort of thing). I’ve used the Rapid Fat Loss diet to great success in the past (there’s a thread on here about it); however it isn’t a sustainable lifestyle as the SBD seems to be.

Now, are you focusing on “full-body weight training” or “full body-weight training” - i.e. free weights or calisthenics? Or both?
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Hi, Eddie.
I´ve done 2 weeks of snake dieting.
It can help you get to 12-15% bodyfat, but the reality is that you WILL also lose muscle mass in the process.
In my experience, the snake diet has cons:

1- It won´t get you ripped (below 12% bodyfat)
2- You will lose a lot of muscle mass, and if you don´t understand dieting, you´ll gain bodyfat when you try to get it back
3- It can be hard and exhausting

So here´s my 2 cents:

Use it until you stagnate (12-15% bf level).
In order to recover muscle mass without raising your bf, use leangains style of dieting (16 hours fasted/ 8 hour feeding window) in the following way: eat at a caloric surplus and train every other day.
In workout days, go keto with max 50g carbs.
In rest days, eat about 45-55% carbs, 150-200g protein and a little fat.
This is counterintuitive, but you will need both complete rest and carbs to make you grow your muscles back.
Don´t worry about getting fat. If you keep your caloric surplus at 500-800 kcals per day and respect the 16 hour fast/8 hour feeding window you will gain fat free muscle and your bf level will remain the same (incredible, i know, but it works).
One more thing: make sure you get adequate sleep and change your training routine every week! Yes, every week, or else your body will adapt and your muscles won´t grow.

If you want to take your snake dieting to the next level, join "Interstellar Blend" group on Facebook.
The owner, Gavin, sells herbal blends that are very potent and will take your fat burning to the next level.
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Also, how committed are you to getting ripped?
I mean, below 10% bf.
If you really have discipline and eventually get your diet and lifestyle under control, there´s a supplement that´s really next level stuff that I can recommend you use.
PM me if you´re interested.
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Quote:Get it Brother! I’m interested to see how the diet interacts with strength gains and general physical well-being (fatigue and recovery and all that sort of thing). I’ve used the Rapid Fat Loss diet to great success in the past (there’s a thread on here about it); however it isn’t a sustainable lifestyle as the SBD seems to be.

Now, are you focusing on “full-body weight training” or “full body-weight training” - i.e. free weights or calisthenics? Or both?

I'll be doing a barbell/dumbell routine focusing on compound lifts and excellent form. I'll be lifting basically every day, so it will be important to avoid going to failure.

Quote:1- It won´t get you ripped (below 12% bodyfat)
2- You will lose a lot of muscle mass, and if you don´t understand dieting, you´ll gain bodyfat when you try to get it back
3- It can be hard and exhausting

So here´s my 2 cents:

Use it until you stagnate (12-15% bf level).
In order to recover muscle mass without raising your bf, use leangains style of dieting (16 hours fasted/ 8 hour feeding window) in the following way: eat at a caloric surplus and train every other day.
In workout days, go keto with max 50g carbs.
In rest days, eat about 45-55% carbs, 150-200g protein and a little fat.
This is counterintuitive, but you will need both complete rest and carbs to make you grow your muscles back.
Don´t worry about getting fat. If you keep your caloric surplus at 500-800 kcals per day and respect the 16 hour fast/8 hour feeding window you will gain fat free muscle and your bf level will remain the same (incredible, i know, but it works).
One more thing: make sure you get adequate sleep and change your training routine every week! Yes, every week, or else your body will adapt and your muscles won´t grow.

I did experience some strength and muscle loss in my first go at it, but compared to the fat loss I had, it was totally worth it. I will also be taking my lifting very seriously this time around.

I will revisit my macro requirements once I get down to ~12% BF. I'm probably around 17% right now.
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Today's weight: 173.8lbs

Yesterday's Training

Bench 1x9 155
Trapbar Deadlift 1x8 250 in plates
Overhead press 1x9 85
Wide Grip Pullups 1x8
Leg Extension 1x14 100
Lateral Raise 1x8 25s
Calves on Leg Press 1x15 160
Rear Delt Raise 1x9 20s
Machine Row 1x13 55
Incline Bench 1x10 115
Barbell Curl 1x11 50
Hamstring Curl 1x10 85
Roman Chair 1x13
Hip Abduction 1x13 100

20 minutes walk at lunch

3 lazy games of full court basketball

Food

10mg of adderall (prescribed)
~2 liters of snake juice

Obviously it's only water but it feels good to get a big jump out of the gate with a 4.5lb loss on day 1.

I plan to walk at lunch and get a good lift in right after work. Having gym memberships in your most frequented locations makes it easier to keep your momentum.
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Today's Weight: 172.0

Yesterday's Training

Bench 3x4,4,3 175
Squat 3x4,4,5 205
Lat Pulldown 3x5 115
Cable Row 3x4 130
Pec Deck 4x5 145
Bicep Curl 3x5,4,5 60
Wide Grip Pullups 2x5,3
Calves 3x10,8,6 130
Prone Leg Curl 3x6,5,6 50
Rear Delt Machine 3x5 85
decline situps 1x15

Food

10 mg adderall
~2 liters snake juice
8 wings
0.75lbs assorted meat from Brazillian BBQ buffet
1 shot of shitty tequilla

I ended my fast a little earlier than expected (~48hrs) to grab a quick bite with my close friend, which I do not regret. I am glad that I kept it close to zero carb and really kept my alcohol consumption to a minimum. I was able to drop another 1.8 lbs despite eating at least a pound of meat.

When doing extended fasts, your digestive slows down dramatically, so poops become events worthy of celebration. Although it goes against snake diet principles, I like to have a strong cup of black coffee the morning after a refeed in order to keep things moving.

I'll be celebrating my 32nd birthday this weekend with friends and family, so food/drink temptations will be about as difficult as it gets. My goal is to keep enough discipline that my weight is less 172.0 come Monday.
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RE: Eddie W's 10-week Hardcore Snake-Diet Cut
Today's Weight: 169.1

Yesterday's Training (excellent form)

Dips 3x6 25
Squat 1x8 205
Pull Ups 3x2 35
One Arm Row 3x6 45
Incline DB Press 1x10 55s
Preacher Curl 1x12 55
Wide Grip Pullup 1x6 30lbs assistance
Seated Calves 1x15 50lbs in plates
Kettle Bell Swing 3x10,10,6 32KG (way too heavy)
OHP 1x7 95
Crunch Machine 2x10 90
DB Side Bend 2x10 50

Yesterday's Food

7.5 mg adderall
~2 liters snake juice
1 grande black cold brew from Starbucks
2.5 THC hard candies (less than 60 calories total)

Great workout yesterday. I played basketball and had a light lifting session this morning too, but my body is telling me to take a rest day or have a reasonable re-feed day.

Listen to your body, and careful with the snake juice salts when you are fasted. I took an ACV shot mixed with half a teaspoon of baking soda and a little water on my way to the gym, which had me feeling great. Unfortunately, it was too much sodium in one shot, and I shit my pants BAD 30 seconds after leaving my house in my new car. Luckily I was able to clean up within 2 minutes of the incident.

Lesson: If you haven't eaten a meal in 24+ hrs, and suddenly feel the urge to fart, use extreme caution. Thumb up

I'm having a semi-normal eating day today, which I will detail in tomorrow's post.
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Sunday's Weight: 173.1
Today's Weight: 175.5

Saturday's Training

Bench 1x13 135
Leg Press 1x15 240
Straight Arm Lat Pushdown 1x12 40
Shrugs 1x14 45s
OHP 1x10 70
Calves 1x14 180
Rear Delts 1x10 100
Ab Machine 1x15 60

20 minutes of full court basketball

Sunday Training

2 hour walk

Weekend Food

Fatbanana

The weekend was far from ideal, although not really that bad at all in the grand scheme of things - I'm not worried about my progress. I'm going to train hard today and start a new fast tomorrow morning.
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Start of Week 2

Today's Weight: 171.9 lbs (a little dehydrated)

Week 1 Workouts: 6 lifting sessions, 4 cardio sessions

I knew this was going to be a challenging weekend diet-wise, and I definitely indulged a bit too much. I fucked up a couple fasts. However, I still lost 6.4lbs and managed six full-body workouts + cardio.

   

I may go out Saturday with a social group I've been looking to get more involved with - other than that, I plan to keep grinding. I may decide to take another rest day this week in order to bring more intensity to my workouts maintain my focus on not putting food in my body.
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RE: Eddie W's 10-week Hardcore Snake-Diet Cut
How´s the fat loss coming along?
To be honest, I don´t see an improvement in your definition, once I compare both photos.
I can see there has been a lot of dehydration and some muscle loss, but the bodyfat percentage seems to have remained the same.
This has been one of the issues I experienced with the Snake Diet: an initial period of body fat loss (always after 24-40 hours fasted), and from then on, only muscle loss and dehydration.
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I admit most of my weight lost last week was water, although I did lose some fat. I will have to get my body fat measured again to be completely sure. I don't think I lost any muscle - I certainly didn't lose any strength.

As long as I keep lifting hard, I am not going to lose too much muscle mass. I'm only 1 week in.
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I think the problem with some of these diets is that people often mistake water weight loss for fat loss. If I fast for two days and weigh in 6-7lbs less most of that is water.
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For anyone interested in updates - I haven’t quit, I just adjusted my strategy a bit. The daily, heavily detailed posts were taking a long time to write and not sustainable for 10 weeks, so I’ll be providing some slightly less frequent updates.

Now I’m focusing more longer fasts, and doing whatever I need to do to maintain the fasts for as long as I can until I hit 155. Right now I’m closing in on 4.5 days fasted, which is a record for me. At the six day mark on Sunday afternoon I’m going to see how I feel and decide if I’m going to break it or keep going.

I was crashing really bad at work today, so I took about 15 mg of adderall which helped tremendously - I had insane energy all day, After work I somehow played an hour of intense basketball, went to a salsa lesson with some friends, and then went to restaurant to watch them eat dinner. Only now am I starting to crash a bit. The misery of not eating comes in waves that can last an hour or two, but all in all I feel great. Food smells absolutely amazing, but is not very appealing to eat. I feel indifferent about breaking the fast and have no real length goal, which is helping me avoid thinking about the finish line too much.

It was a little mentally challenging to truly commit to the cut again, but now I have a ton of momentum and plan to crush my goal.
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RE: Eddie W's 10-week Hardcore Snake-Diet Cut
(04-06-2019 03:42 PM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  Today's Weight: 169.1
Yesterday's Food

7.5 mg adderall
~2 liters snake juice
1 grande black cold brew from Starbucks
2.5 THC hard candies (less than 60 calories total)

Eddie, coffee makes you fat. If you are addicted to coffee, I would recommend you to take iodine (iodoral or nascent iodine from ancient minerals) together with selenium and liposomal vit C. Very likely that you are iodine deficient.

Also you don't need adderall. That stuff is toxic.
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RE: Eddie W's 10-week Hardcore Snake-Diet Cut
(04-21-2019 01:38 AM)roid Wrote:  
(04-06-2019 03:42 PM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  Today's Weight: 169.1
Yesterday's Food

7.5 mg adderall
~2 liters snake juice
1 grande black cold brew from Starbucks
2.5 THC hard candies (less than 60 calories total)

Eddie, coffee makes you fat. If you are addicted to coffee, I would recommend you to take iodine (iodoral or nascent iodine from ancient minerals) together with selenium and liposomal vit C. Very likely that you are iodine deficient.

Also you don't need adderall. That stuff is toxic.

I hear you, but I'm not addicted. During my fast (5.5 days) I only had my homemade electrolyte water, plus a cup of plain herbal tea every couple of days.

In terms of the adderall, I abstain for as long as I can. After 72 hours of only snake juice, my brain and body just cannot function at the level I need them to handle my responsibilities at work - there is no way around it. I would prefer to take my very low-dose prescription at the tail end of my fast and squeeze in a couple of extra days instead of cutting the fasts short.
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This morning I weighed in at 166.8, very well hydrated and having eaten a pile of salty steak the night before.

I had a decent but far from perfect refeed day on Easter following a 130+ hour water fast. I've been doing very well since, hopping right back in to a 30+ hour fast and eating one virtually zero carb meal per day since. I haven't had any alcohol with the exception of one light beer last beer while I watched the Rockets game last night.

I've been lifting at least 4 times per week, and have been forcing myself through deeply-fasted cardio sessions right before my refeeds.

   

Abs are beginning to come in, and I'm seeing more definition in my jawline and cheekbones.
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Right on Brother! 12 pounds in, what, 3 weeks? That’s fantastic! How is your strength doing? I imagine it’s steady as you haven’t mentioned otherwise. Seriously, a nearly 6 day water fast... Impressive! Keep it up, you’ll be there in no time.

As an aside, I read a study somewhere that the occasional extended water fast (IIRC it was 9 days once a year) drops all cancer rates by 99%. The researchers were looking at populations that have no occurences of cancer and found the commonality between them to be varying periods of water fasting. Apparently this allows the body the opportunity to cannibalize all damaged (cancerous or otherwise) bio-material for resources.
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@Brazilianguy, what Interstellar blends have you purchased? I recently joined that group, and his blends seem pretty interesting.
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This snake diet guy has some very good ideas. It's nice to see a Canadian in the public eye who is not a pussy. I'm going to try some of this. I watched a lot of the videos and took some notes and ordered the stuff required off amazon.
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snake diet = low calories diet = loose weight

So just lower your calories and you will loose weight
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(04-30-2019 11:56 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  snake diet = low calories diet = loose weight

So just lower your calories and you will loose weight

A lot of fat people aren't just fat. They're food addicted. Telling them to CICO is like telling a bunch of heroin addicts to just take less heroin and they won't die. Not to mention it's pretty hard to beat the caloric deficit of eating nothing.

Compliance is critical on any diet. If it's hard to voluntarily comply to something if the option and craving to cheat is there at all times. When fasting for longer periods of time the hunger hormones dissipate (this is known to anybody who has ever fasted).

With fat people who are addicted to food it's easier to get them to eat nothing and drink saltwater (look at all threads online, most are having a good time of it) than eat half cups of oatmeal and a fistful of broccoli every three hours.

Not only that but the snake diet gets results. A woman lost 200 pounds in a year on it. No exercise. 200 pounds. That's better results than the sorry fat bastards on The Biggest Loser except she's actually keeping the weight off and didn't require a 10k/month coach to slap her into doing 8 hours of cardio a day.
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(04-30-2019 12:35 PM)flanders Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 11:56 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  snake diet = low calories diet = loose weight

So just lower your calories and you will loose weight

A lot of fat people aren't just fat. They're food addicted. Telling them to CICO is like telling a bunch of heroin addicts to just take less heroin and they won't die. Not to mention it's pretty hard to beat the caloric deficit of eating nothing.

Compliance is critical on any diet. If it's hard to voluntarily comply to something if the option and craving to cheat is there at all times. When fasting for longer periods of time the hunger hormones dissipate (this is known to anybody who has ever fasted).

With fat people who are addicted to food it's easier to get them to eat nothing and drink saltwater (look at all threads online, most are having a good time of it) than eat half cups of oatmeal and a fistful of broccoli every three hours.

Not only that but the snake diet gets results. A woman lost 200 pounds in a year on it. No exercise. 200 pounds. That's better results than the sorry fat bastards on The Biggest Loser except she's actually keeping the weight off and didn't require a 10k/month coach to slap her into doing 8 hours of cardio a day.

I think everyone is a food addict by nature , eating is a moment of pleasure .

Yes snake diet works , but also if you eat low calories meal every 3-4 hours can work too . Because with snake diet , sometimes when you fast for long time , you will eat a lot once its time to eat.
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Flanders you’re exactly right. The obesity epidemic is a result of emotional eating, I guarantee it.

The beauty of doing sucha rigorous fast is that it gives your tastebuds a chance to reset - and the rest of your gastrointestinal system. The former is more important, as then when you return to eating you get the same ‘high’ from less sugar or salt or fats. Like taking a tolerance break with the herb.
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