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(05-04-2019 03:11 AM)Iconoclast007 Wrote:  Triple G.

A location independant income is typically one that does not require you to live in any specific country. You work remotely from whichever country you choose. You make a western salary and live in a locale with lower cost of living. This arbitrage creates a tremendous value.

Its true. In lithiania and parts of Latvia salarys are low but so is cost of living.as I mentioned Estonia has the best standards of quality of life standards.

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do you think it'd be good for me to use VPNs and the like to mask myself as an American (or, as you funnily like to call it, somebody from the USSA)?

I'm Lithuanian. I just thought of starting translating (LT<->EN) in my free time as a side hustle. I want to gather an American clientele to make USDs that I could spend as EURs here in Vilnius. My goal is 600EUR/mo, with that income, a huge weight would be lifted off my shoulders. I'm 20 and still dependent on my grandma to help me make ends meet. I want to stop leeching off of her as soon as I can without having to slave away at somebody else's business. Ticks me off to even think about it.
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Get married young, have kids young. Don't waste your prime years on worthless sluts who aren't worth a damn. I probably could've ended up with a good woman in my 20's and pursued this life path. Instead I chose whores (both literal and figurative), drugs/alcohol, money, a unfulfilling job that paid good.

This year I am 36, which isn't that old, however about 2 years ago I ended up with some serious health issues and underwent treatments that have affected my libido/sex drive. I am tired, burnt out, and I'm honestly quite depressed most of the time. It takes all my energy to work 40 hours a week and go to the gym a couple times on the weekend, I couldn't imagine myself in a serious relationship at this point, let alone starting a family and keeping up with a wife and kids.

A lot of the red pill content is not leading men down the right path, it's telling them to just chase fool's gold of money/muscles and that their sexual market value will peak at 38. Honest truth is that most guys SMV will peak in their early to mid 20's, when they are in university or social arenas that give them the most access to attractive women of substance (who aren't banged out or single mothers).

Using approach game pre-selects for sluts, roosh v will tell you this. Go ask some couples you admire how they met, most will say school/social circle/church/work. I look at the friends I have who are looking for an LTR in their 30's, and they are literally all with single mothers and BPD/personality disorder girls. The good ones get picked off early, and the exceptions just prove the rule.

If you are lucky enough to be in your 20's and healthy, do not waste those years. They may be gone faster than you think, and then what? You only get one life.
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(05-08-2019 04:55 PM)Hypugamy Wrote:  Get married young, have kids young. Don't waste your prime years on worthless sluts who aren't worth a damn. I probably could've ended up with a good woman in my 20's and pursued this life path. Instead I chose whores (both literal and figurative), drugs/alcohol, money, a unfulfilling job that paid good.

This year I am 36, which isn't that old, however about 2 years ago I ended up with some serious health issues and underwent treatments that have affected my libido/sex drive. I am tired, burnt out, and I'm honestly quite depressed most of the time. It takes all my energy to work 40 hours a week and go to the gym a couple times on the weekend, I couldn't imagine myself in a serious relationship at this point, let alone starting a family and keeping up with a wife and kids.

A lot of the red pill content is not leading men down the right path, it's telling them to just chase fool's gold of money/muscles and that their sexual market value will peak at 38. Honest truth is that most guys SMV will peak in their early to mid 20's, when they are in university or social arenas that give them the most access to attractive women of substance (who aren't banged out or single mothers).

Using approach game pre-selects for sluts, roosh v will tell you this. Go ask some couples you admire how they met, most will say school/social circle/church/work. I look at the friends I have who are looking for an LTR in their 30's, and they are literally all with single mothers and BPD/personality disorder girls. The good ones get picked off early, and the exceptions just prove the rule.

If you are lucky enough to be in your 20's and healthy, do not waste those years. They may be gone faster than you think, and then what? You only get one life.

Sorry to hear about your health issues but I’m curious to know whether they are a result of your drug/alcohol abuse and/or banging whores? I’m asking because I’ve done so much cocaine and whores that I’m surprised I haven’t had any such issues.

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(05-09-2019 03:52 AM)scotian Wrote:  Sorry to hear about your health issues but I’m curious to know whether they are a result of your drug/alcohol abuse and/or banging whores? I’m asking because I’ve done so much cocaine and whores that I’m surprised I haven’t had any such issues.

I'm also curious to hear some more details if youre willing to expand. But still your advice rings true, while I've enjoyed the bangs/drugs/alcohol, I don't have much to show for it. Ive become closer and closer to reaching the point where I'd like to find a decent LTR and settle down as the 20's aren't smiling on me anymore and as quick as I got to 30, I'm sure 40's going to follow and I don't necessarily want this life style I currently have anymore.
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I'll come back to this thread with some life realizations but OP, if you're still reading, don't give into the toxic belief that it is ever too late to have amazing relationships or meet amazing women if you are an amazing quality guy with a lot going for him in life. I'll try to be as civil as possible for now, as much as some of the recent content tleling men to give up their entire 20s and life goals for marriage, 6 kids, and a family vexes me.

Believe me in that I have learned recently it is never too late (at least under the age of 35) to meet great people, have an awesome life, meet great women, and have great experiences.

I'll expand more on this later on when I feel like it is safe to do so.

To each his own...
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Looking through this thread and after pages of seeing the hopelessness, misery, helplessness, and fear mongering I wanted to speak my mind a bit after some recent life experiences.

The "game" was taught wrong to guys all these years and the posts you see are really the culmination of all of that. Even when I read posts about game it just didn't seem right to me, because it never taught men to be good with people, only gimmicks and ways to get laid. "Don't put pussy on the pedestal" may as well be the biggest lie from anyone teaching game as it is quite literally putting pussy on top of Mt. Everest. Ask any of these guys about social life and age, they'll all go off on a story about how much pussy they got, nothing about the kinds of friends they met, amazing people they got to experience life with, great fun things you did, none of that, only "pussy pussy and like more pussy bro".

You look at the typical life of such a guy it is going out alone, spam approaching random women, and failing 9 out of 10 times while taking home some plain damaged woman one night. No friends, cool experiences to be a part of, great bonds formed, or any of that; just mindless obsession with cold approaching random women while not working on anything else socially.

Over the years, the toxicity and cynical attitude culminates into what you see on this thread. Age aside and circumstances aside, your average guy doing well in life would not want to be around that guy, why would quality women be any different? I mean read the posts, envying some guy with a dad bod who shops at walmart and has 6 kids? Specifying that his wife has blue eyes as a form of white pussy worship? This shit sounds like it would come from some thirsty socially awkward weirdo who has not been let out of his mother's house for years and spent his entire life on the internet for social interactions.

I saw how it drove me to misery, this mindset of helplessness and being a victim to the times, until life brought me back.

I have been going out every weekend and I am a new me, the me that was full of hope and energy for life. It is weird how this attitude rubs off on people in a good way. I have friends to go out with and the great times we have draws random women into wanting to be a part of our lives. Rarely do I care if I am single in my 40s, I know I will always have options due to the work I have put in.

Regardless of age most of the times, women and even people in general want to be around fulfilled individuals who give off a positive uplifting vibe and know how to have a good time. Not guys whining about how life is over after 40, how it is all for nothing, and how society is always fucked.

The guy who developed great people skills and the personality to be likable and bring out the best in others? He is getting hitched with the finest women even in his 30s, quality attracts quality, fun people and women with options do not want to be hitched with whiners.

So as a guy around OP's age who finally came to his senses and is a lot more satisfied in life, here are pieces of advice I have.

1. Work on your social life above all when it comes to game, bring new quality people into your life and prioritize this above game because a good social life makes the game 50x easier. You'll naturally meet quality women. Fulfill that sexual urge but realize it will be so much easier once you get better with people.

2. Whatever path you choose, lifelong player or family man, let it be the path you picked because your gut and desire told you. I honestly have nothing against a guy getting married at 25 because not everyone is cut out for experimenting, some guys prefer stability above all. If you want to get around, do it without remorse, it is never too late for anything in life.

3. Find a fucking hobby and life interest, bonus points if it leads to you getting more women naturally (photography, working in events/nightlife, acting, etc.).

4. Seriously get your finances in check above all else, you'll sleep easier at night. Whether it is through career or business, fix it.

5. Move to a location that fits you above all else, if you're in your 20s, give a world class city a try, you'll probably love it like I do.

6. Don't ignore social media, seriously, it is the future and it matters. We live in a connected world, be connected, don't be a hermit. Stay on top of the trends so you do not fall behind.
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^You let posts by random people on the internet drive you to misery?

God damned them all, I was told we'd cruise the seas for American gold, we'd fire no guns-shed no tears, now I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier, the last of Barrett's privateers!
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(05-09-2019 11:49 PM)scotian Wrote:  ^You let posts by random people on the internet drive you to misery?

To be fair it's pretty common. Most people just don't have the self awareness to recognize what it is that's making them miserable.

I found my emotional state to be so much better after deciding not to get another smartphone the last time I lost it. Been so much less bitter or ticked off about things I can't control (or that I was just seeing through a skewed lens) as a result.

Can't believe all the stuff I was letting get me worked up that has nearly zero impact on my life. I still have a cheap little dumb phone, but I can't remember the last time I even turned it on to see if anyone has been calling or messaging. Phone service around the island I currently live on is generally shite anyhow.

I like it this way. And I may get even more extreme later down the road.

Highly suggested reading: Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport.

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(05-10-2019 12:24 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Highly suggested reading: Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport.

That book came up on my Amazon book recommendations and read some of it Barnes & Noble, but didn't really intrigued me...

I feel like this one of the books where the summary can be organized as, "Live a simple life by using less of your phone."

Could you elaborate why you would recommend this book?

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(05-10-2019 12:46 AM)bgbusiness Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 12:24 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Highly suggested reading: Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport.

That book came up on my Amazon book recommendations and read some of it Barnes & Noble, but didn't really intrigued me...

I feel like this one of the books where the summary can be organized as, "Live a simple life by using less of your phone."

Could you elaborate why you would recommend this book?

Maybe it was reading it in conjunction with Deep Work, which I liked a bit less, actually - gave me more of that feeling you mentioned. I work online as a copywriter (over a decade now), though, so both working more deeply and learning to find balance among all the distractions are very relevant topics for me. Not to mention living in Asia most of the time mean I'm always staying active online to keep in touch with folks back home.

I also had just read another book on the damaging effects of social media on the brain, and coupled with just losing my phone and starting to analyze the ways it was affecting me negatively, maybe the timing for the message was right.

I was pretty addicted to my phone at that point, and it was eating up a lot of my time without adding to my life much. Was procrastinating like crazy.

After reading that book, I got into long walks just to think again, meditation, drawing, playing guitar, songwriting. My girl and I play 4 or more games of chess per day. And just being altogether more engaged with my surroundings. And it really improved my relationships by providing a fresh perspective on the value of my in-person interactions, which causes me to invest more energy and presence in the moment.

So it had quite an effect. Thinking of giving it another read.

I really liked the stories of some of the great minds in history, like Lincoln and Jung, who withdrew into seclusion for short periods to do their best work (even if they were highly social at other times). I would like to take my own books more seriously at some point, so again, very relevant for me.

Miss having a nice camera on hand at all times, as I enjoy taking pics of the cool places I see here, but that's an easy fix. I'd miss Uber and Maps if i was in the city but don't need that shit down here on the islands - nothing's on the map anyways.

For someone like scotian, who works in the oilfields, getting caught up in the online world too much probably isn't as much of a life concern.

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(05-09-2019 11:16 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  5. Move to a location that fits you above all else, if you're in your 20s, give a world class city a try, you'll probably love it like I do.

6. Don't ignore social media, seriously, it is the future and it matters. We live in a connected world, be connected, don't be a hermit. Stay on top of the trends so you do not fall behind.

What do you mean by world class city?
You mean like NYC or Chicago?
I grew up in Chicago for 15+ years and been to NYC for several weeks.

I use YouTube and Reddit, but not insta/FB/snap unless it's an entrepreneur or a businessman that I am following. I just read the news like WSJ lol it's more educational and informative imo

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(05-09-2019 11:49 PM)scotian Wrote:  ^You let posts by random people on the internet drive you to misery?

Not just the internet, real life as well.

(05-10-2019 01:12 AM)bgbusiness Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 11:16 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  5. Move to a location that fits you above all else, if you're in your 20s, give a world class city a try, you'll probably love it like I do.

6. Don't ignore social media, seriously, it is the future and it matters. We live in a connected world, be connected, don't be a hermit. Stay on top of the trends so you do not fall behind.

What do you mean by world class city?
You mean like NYC or Chicago?
I grew up in Chicago for 15+ years and been to NYC for several weeks.

I use YouTube and Reddit, but not insta/FB/snap unless it's an entrepreneur or a businessman that I am following. I just read the news like WSJ lol it's more educational and informative imo

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Like a major city bro......NYC? Chicago? Both great.

You should get in on social media and capitalize on it, you're setting yourself up for failure in the future and showing you are out of touch by not doing so.

One final comment I can make on this thread is this my dear friend, time is passing and that clock is ticking. You can continue to mentally masturbate and do what I did in my youth, waste time and then grow up to regret it. You can continue to ask millions of questions with users on this forum contributing value but at the end of the day, you have to take action.

I had to take action to move back to NYC and I am happy for it.

Take my advice to build a social life which can grant you opportunities, take their advice to find the girl of your dreams to marry, or take the internet's advice or whatever. Point being, now is the time to act because the clock is not stopping.
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I disagree on moving to a big city like NYC. I mean it's nice to experience it for a bit, but it's overhyped and overpriced. It's one of the worst financial decisions you can possibly make to waste thousands of dollars on rent in a shitty studio apartment. You'll have a much better time living in a city like Medellin or Bangkok, where the girls are easier, prettier and it's 10th the price.
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When you decide to look for a wife, rather than look for a quick sex conquest, when you really commit to that path, then your entire aura changes. Women have radar that is every bit as good as ours, if not much better. Mother nature has been evolving their brains for millions of years to detect men who are ready to settle down. In fact, i'd bet that even your smell changes.

When you are wife hunting, suddenly your social circles change and the type of women you are being presented changes.

Well that was what happened to me anyway. Admittedly it has changed since them. But if you're a modestly successful guy who is serious about finding a woman to settle down with, has stoped fapping, and has gotten real with yourself that you're not getting a supermodel, I can't beleve it's going to be impossible to find a decent woman.

Put your cellphone away. Mating is not compatible with online profiles.
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(05-09-2019 11:16 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  Over the years, the toxicity and cynical attitude culminates into what you see on this thread. Age aside and circumstances aside, your average guy doing well in life would not want to be around that guy, why would quality women be any different? I mean read the posts, envying some guy with a dad bod who shops at walmart and has 6 kids? Specifying that his wife has blue eyes as a form of white pussy worship? This shit sounds like it would come from some thirsty socially awkward weirdo who has not been let out of his mother's house for years and spent his entire life on the internet for social interactions.

Thanks for the kind words, A Beer Is Enough. To much time on my hands tonight, so I took a look at the first two most recent pages of your posting history to get an idea of why me mentioning white skin and blue eyes set you off so much.

Quote:Uncontrolled immigration from South America and the Middle East is going to turn the western world into the same caste system they have in Colombia, Brazil, and all of the Middle East where blond haired whites are worshiped and everyone else is treated like an animal.

Quote:My experience with French women has not been as vast as some of the guys on this thread but I really want to put this out there. From my experience, it seems like Southern France tends to produce the women with an inferiority complex. Maybe it is because they look Mediterranean and there is some low self-esteem involved with not looking white enough.

Quote:Yeah that's right, that self-hating ethnic girl that thinks she is too good to be talking to you or your kind and will readily fuck some trollish looking white guy over you because she wants to desperately fit in, she'll bendover backwards as soon as she sees Becky with her arms around you.

Quote:So this means women from places like Brazil, Colombia, the Mediterranean, and the Middle East where social image and popularity mean everything. You will be passed for some trollish looking creep with blond hair because of how much people in those parts of the world worship that sort of thing. Yeah I know it sucks if you have a thing for that kind of a look but it is what it is, no point trying to associate with women or people from narcissistic cultures.

Quote:The same liberals who will talk about how bad Trump is but then want to make sure all minorities act in line with how they want them to. In case you missed it, this also means an overwhelming number of two-faced white women who will parade social justice one day but exclusively fuck Neo-Nazi posterboys.

Quote:I honestly believe that all ethnic guys in the US that have higher value should swear off the self-hating insecure trash of their own race and exclusively pursue white women because it is the smart thing to do. A white woman will judge you as a person and give you a chance if you are top tier while some cunt of your own race will leave you for a chubby lower value white guy if he looked in her direction.

Quote:It always bugs me whenever people bitch about guys liking white women though, I mean I have to know, why is it a crime to have a thing for white women but not to have a thing for other races?

I mean why is it wrong for some ethnic guy to only want blondes while a white guy can express his preference for Hispanic women?

I will say it here, white women are the highest quality and the bitterness towards them is purely sour grapes.

I promise you that an Indian or Arab feminist is 10 times worse than a white one, only difference is crazy bitches of minority groups also target men of their own race and want them dead, it is almost like them and the Neo-Nazis were made for each other

Quote:Some claim that Anglo women are "racist" because they won't fuck poor ol 5'6 stinky as fuck skinnyfat ethnic guy, wanna see true "racism"? Try being a handsome 6'2 ethnic guy and interacting Middle Eastern, Asian. Mediterranean and women from certain parts of Eastern Europe, they'll reject your ass for a 5'6 troll with blond hair. At least Anglo women are willing to be more objective about it all, if anything, I'd say they are most lenient about race.

Quote:Dude, the only reason that Colombian broad was good to you is because you were a white guy, plain and simple. Other than that, they are really narcissistic and materialistic plastic broads that make an Anglo chick look like an angel. Any other race will easily see her true colors, you just got suckered into the sweet talk because you were a westerner.

Quote:You start to realize that there is no need to have loyalty to anyone other than yourself when most women of your own race are probably more racist towards you and want you to go extinct than some Neo-Nazi does.

Quote:I'd stay far away from Middle Eastern and Mediterranean women, at least here in the US. Most of them come from narcissist, vain, and largely insecure cultures that value status and popularity a great bit, this is why they commonly go for the blond hair blue eyed trollish looking dudes.

Quote:If anything, I kind of feel for them because I think the westernized ones are going through what Asian guys have been going through for quite some time, seeing guys of other races poach their women for ONS and flings.

Two pages. That was only the first two most recent pages.

Jesus fucking Christ dude. You are the definition of why H1B1's and their like need to be fucking banned from ever coming to the west. You clearly have an ax to grind with heritage stock Americans. You disgust me.
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05-12-2019 09:15 PM
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RE: Older players (Mid 30s & 40+), Advice for 25yo
No worries Uprising, you have too much time on your hands every night from the looks of it. While it is no secret that I have mentioned many times in the forum that guys of that look enjoy a lot of benefits from certain kinds of women and warn men who don't fit the mold of that obstacle, that was not the reason your post got the reaction from me that it did.

You are admiring a guy with a dad bod that shops at Walmart and has six kids and then going so deep as to describe his wife's appearance down to her eye color then saying that is who we should all aspire to be like is what got the reaction it did.

It's not about white vs black, immigrant vs American, or left vs right. It is that we are at a point that you are telling men to aspire to have dad bods, six kids, and shop at Walmart with their short blue eyed wife.
05-12-2019 09:29 PM
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RE: Older players (Mid 30s & 40+), Advice for 25yo
(05-12-2019 07:52 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  When you decide to look for a wife, rather than look for a quick sex conquest, when you really commit to that path, then your entire aura changes. Women have radar that is every bit as good as ours, if not much better. Mother nature has been evolving their brains for millions of years to detect men who are ready to settle down. In fact, i'd bet that even your smell changes.

When you are wife hunting, suddenly your social circles change and the type of women you are being presented changes.

Well that was what happened to me anyway. Admittedly it has changed since them. But if you're a modestly successful guy who is serious about finding a woman to settle down with, has stoped fapping, and has gotten real with yourself that you're not getting a supermodel, I can't beleve it's going to be impossible to find a decent woman.

Put your cellphone away. Mating is not compatible with online profiles.

My best friend got engaged last month, and he said very similar comments. In the past 9 months he's changed quite a bit. Stopped approaching randoms, stopped hanging out as much, settled down with one girl (his fiance), and starting going to church. He's 37 and she's 30, and he never spoke about marriage or a family as much as he has in the past few months. I dunno if he "smells" different, but he certainly attracted a completely different type of woman than the ones he was accustomed to being with.
05-13-2019 06:41 PM
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Post: #169
RE: Older players (Mid 30s & 40+), Advice for 25yo
I loved having fun in my 20s, 30s and would keep doing it if I could but there comes a time when you have to settle down and have kids if thats what you want. If you marry a girl in your 20s you will be with her for the rest of you life. Unless you plan and having some on the side, but in this case why get married? This would also destroy a relationship and create an unstable environment for kids.

I forgot count of how many girls I have had, probably over 150, but its not so much the girls as the amazing experiences that naturally went along with it. Im not some burnt out player, jaded by a life of debauchery and I didnt waste my youth banging random sluts. My life has been an awesome, fun, insane adventure; I am now really in my prime, with wisdom you just cant have in your 20s, now I can get married and have kids.

Each to their own but if I got married in my 20s or 30s it would have ended in divorce from me likely not being able to keep my dick in my pants. I now know inside I only need one girl and I will be happy with that.

The biggest thing I would suggest and what I regret is making my sole focus women, I spent damn near two decades with women being my main priority; this is a huge thing, in life you need balance but we are hard wired to think about sex 24/7.

Use women as your driver ''Sexual transmutation'' this was described decades ago in the classic book Think and Grow Rich, and do things with this energy other than just chasing women.

When you are married your with kids your drivers will be very different.

Everyone is different and if you have a strong desire to be pair bonded and cant stand to be alone perhaps this advise would not suit you.
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05-14-2019 06:38 AM
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RE: Older players (Mid 30s & 40+), Advice for 25yo
(05-11-2019 05:13 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 11:49 PM)scotian Wrote:  ^You let posts by random people on the internet drive you to misery?

Not just the internet, real life as well.

(05-10-2019 01:12 AM)bgbusiness Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 11:16 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  5. Move to a location that fits you above all else, if you're in your 20s, give a world class city a try, you'll probably love it like I do.

6. Don't ignore social media, seriously, it is the future and it matters. We live in a connected world, be connected, don't be a hermit. Stay on top of the trends so you do not fall behind.

What do you mean by world class city?
You mean like NYC or Chicago?
I grew up in Chicago for 15+ years and been to NYC for several weeks.

I use YouTube and Reddit, but not insta/FB/snap unless it's an entrepreneur or a businessman that I am following. I just read the news like WSJ lol it's more educational and informative imo

........

Like a major city bro......NYC? Chicago? Both great.

You should get in on social media and capitalize on it, you're setting yourself up for failure in the future and showing you are out of touch by not doing so.

One final comment I can make on this thread is this my dear friend, time is passing and that clock is ticking. You can continue to mentally masturbate and do what I did in my youth, waste time and then grow up to regret it. You can continue to ask millions of questions with users on this forum contributing value but at the end of the day, you have to take action.

I had to take action to move back to NYC and I am happy for it.

Take my advice to build a social life which can grant you opportunities, take their advice to find the girl of your dreams to marry, or take the internet's advice or whatever. Point being, now is the time to act because the clock is not stopping.

Asserting yourself and trying to establish dominance by calling people "bro" on internet sounds like you are an immature high schooler.

Not really, just because everyone is doing it, doesn't mean you should do it also. Doing things just to fit in is such a herd mentality.

"Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."
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"That's the difference between you and me. You wanna lose small, I wanna win big."
05-14-2019 09:42 PM
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RE: Older players (Mid 30s & 40+), Advice for 25yo
(05-08-2019 04:55 PM)Hypugamy Wrote:  A lot of the red pill content is not leading men down the right path, it's telling them to just chase fool's gold of money/muscles and that their sexual market value will peak at 38. Honest truth is that most guys SMV will peak in their early to mid 20's, when they are in university or social arenas that give them the most access to attractive women of substance (who aren't banged out or single mothers).

Using approach game pre-selects for sluts, roosh v will tell you this. Go ask some couples you admire how they met, most will say school/social circle/church/work. I look at the friends I have who are looking for an LTR in their 30's, and they are literally all with single mothers and BPD/personality disorder girls. The good ones get picked off early, and the exceptions just prove the rule.

If you are lucky enough to be in your 20's and healthy, do not waste those years. They may be gone faster than you think, and then what? You only get one life.

On average, can't say my man is wrong. All I can say is that he's ... in Canada. Which weirdly, on average is worse than the US, which is bad. That's why when you read on and get the part about LTR 30+ guys he knows with single moms/prozacs, it wasn't surprising

I will say as you get older, social circles shut down even quicker, for obvious reasons. Because of the age gap shaming in the west, it exacerbates problems the problems if you want a family. The only answer, as I see it, is to take a look at my sig below

Get your passport ready!
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05-14-2019 10:25 PM
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RE: Older players (Mid 30s & 40+), Advice for 25yo
When considering a wife and family path, i would share the following to young men contemplating their choices
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Prior to marriage, I used the techniques espoused in the Book Rational Male of "spinning plates". Getting plates to begin begging you for exclusivity gets you and wife prospects in the correct mindset. For me this was the pinnacle of my "game" journey.

Changing my hunting territory to eastern europe and Colombia from the USSA changed the dynamics significantly better in my favor especially for long term family formation potential. Becoming an expat is not for the feint of heart.

With my strategy, location independant income was an imperative. Also, One must focus on development of multiple income streams to develop resilience to unexpected business changes.

A humble attitude has proved to hold me in good stead when assimillating into local, rural, traditional communities. This location selection has been a wise choice for me to incubate a strong, healthy family.
05-15-2019 12:45 AM
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RE: Older players (Mid 30s & 40+), Advice for 25yo
^ Yes, 007 is honest about the tradeoffs. You will exchange things to get benefits, and there will be a cost. One must be honest about this. It thus depends on where your ultimate value is.

Get your passport ready!
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05-18-2019 11:27 AM
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RE: Older players (Mid 30s & 40+), Advice for 25yo
(05-14-2019 06:38 AM)kazz Wrote:  I loved having fun in my 20s, 30s and would keep doing it if I could but there comes a time when you have to settle down and have kids if thats what you want. If you marry a girl in your 20s you will be with her for the rest of you life. Unless you plan and having some on the side, but in this case why get married? This would also destroy a relationship and create an unstable environment for kids.

I forgot count of how many girls I have had, probably over 150, but its not so much the girls as the amazing experiences that naturally went along with it. Im not some burnt out player, jaded by a life of debauchery and I didnt waste my youth banging random sluts. My life has been an awesome, fun, insane adventure; I am now really in my prime, with wisdom you just cant have in your 20s, now I can get married and have kids.

Each to their own but if I got married in my 20s or 30s it would have ended in divorce from me likely not being able to keep my dick in my pants. I now know inside I only need one girl and I will be happy with that.

The biggest thing I would suggest and what I regret is making my sole focus women, I spent damn near two decades with women being my main priority; this is a huge thing, in life you need balance but we are hard wired to think about sex 24/7.

Use women as your driver ''Sexual transmutation'' this was described decades ago in the classic book Think and Grow Rich, and do things with this energy other than just chasing women.

When you are married your with kids your drivers will be very different.

Everyone is different and if you have a strong desire to be pair bonded and cant stand to be alone perhaps this advise would not suit you.

Pretty much what happened to me. Married a great girl when I was 27, divorced by 31 because I kept fucking around. Even in marriage, my sole focus was having what I couldn't have.

It's been a weird transition, but like you mentioned, the focus now isn't to chase tail and keep being a dog but to build a lifestyle I can be proud of.

I will say though, with my marriage ending in flames, I was able to get a beautiful kid out of it that I can put all my energy and effort into when I'm with her. The other days of the week, focus on building a successful lifestyle.

Great insight Kazz
05-18-2019 09:14 PM
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