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I have a knot in my stomach, as if someone very, very dear has died. I hope this sentiment is multiplied to 1000x within French hearts.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/15/youtube-...ideos.html

Quote:YouTube’s algorithm placed a descriptive link of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks directly under a live stream video of the Notre Dame Cathedral fire. The video was a live stream of the fire on France 24′s YouTube page.

YouTube, which is run by Google, started placing links to Wikipedia and encyclopedia entries under news videos last year in an effort to curb fake news from spreading on the site.

It appears YouTube’s algorithm interpreted the video as footage of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center towers.

The cause of the fire is still unknown, according to French police. Local media have reported the fire is being treated as an accident.

A YouTube spokeswoman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Just a coincidence... Just an algorithm!
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RE: Another Day in Paris: Notre Dame is Burning
(04-15-2019 01:32 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  
(04-15-2019 01:20 PM)Horus Wrote:  
(04-15-2019 01:06 PM)Dusty Wrote:  This is like 9/11.

It's worse.

No it's not. Nobody's died.

I few thousand lives and a modern symbol of capitalism is worth less than a symbol of cultural and spiritual cohesion which has survived almost a thousand years.
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(04-15-2019 01:39 PM)Horus Wrote:  
(04-15-2019 01:32 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  
(04-15-2019 01:20 PM)Horus Wrote:  
(04-15-2019 01:06 PM)Dusty Wrote:  This is like 9/11.

It's worse.

No it's not. Nobody's died.

I few thousand lives and a modern symbol of capitalism is worth less than a symbol of cultural and spiritual cohesion which has survived almost a thousand years.

Useless post. One event is not the same as the other.


I'm sure this is deliberate and I am sure it will be covered up with half truths.
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Yes indeed...

Another day in Paris....

Brought to you by the invaders and the globalist political traitors.

Fuck those bastards!!! Angry

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09...hedral-sp/

Quote:Gas tanks and Arabic documents found in unmarked car by Paris' Notre Dame cathedral spark terror fears

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An armed police officer stands guard at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris in March
An armed police officer stands guard at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris in March Credit: AP

Henry Samuel, Paris

8 September 2016 • 8:27am

Gas tanks and documents in Arabic were found in an unmarked car next to Notre Dame cathedral, sparking fresh terror fears and at least four arrests, according to French reports.

A couple known to intelligence services as being "favourable to the ideas of Isil" were arrested on Tuesday night on their way to Spain, after an anti-terror investigation was launched following the discovery of the suspicious vehicle containing up to seven cylinders on Sunday yards from the cathedral - one of Paris's most visited landmarks.

A second couple was detained overnight on Wednesday.

Documents in Arabic were reportedly found inside the car outside the cathedral and were "in the process of being translated".

The car, a Peugeot 607 with no number plates, contained no explosives or detonators, according to French reports. "They were not linked to any kind of fuse," one source close to the investigation told l'Express. Its warning lights were on.

According to BFM TV, one empty canister was found in the back of the car and six full ones in the boot. The type of gas they contained was not specified.
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Inside Notre-Dame de Paris cathedral Credit: AFP

The car had been abandoned just yards from Notre Dame, located on the Île de la Cité, by the river Seine.

The first couple, a man aged 34 and a woman aged 29, were arrested on a motorway lay-by near Orange, southern France. The pair were being questioned by French domestic intelligence agents who can hold them for 96 hours without charges under French anti-terror laws.

The second pair was picked up near Montargis, about 110 kilometres south of Paris.

The daughter of the car's owner, described by her father as being radicalised, is also wanted for questioning, police said.

Police were alerted to the car when a resident rang in to say a vehicle had been poorly parked at 43 rue de la Bûcherie in the 5th arrondissement with its headlights on.

Although unmarked, investigators quickly traced the car to its owner, who Reuters reported is on a French list of potential terror suspects and "has been identified, arrested and placed in custody".

"We think that this person was conducting a test," one police source told Reuters. "The fact that there was no detonating device linked to the gas tanks and that the warning lights were left on are as if they were trying to attract attention."

Bernard Cazeneuve, the interior minister, declined to comment specifically on the arrest. But he said praised the "extreme vigilance" of police and intelligence who are working "with an unrivaled intensity" in the context of "an extremely high threat".

"Since the start of the year, we have arrested 260 people, most of them incarcerated, a significant number of whom were preparing attacks that could have led to tragedies," said the minister.

But Florence Berthout, centre-Right mayor of Paris' 5th arrondissement, said she had been informed on Monday that the vehicle had "remained stationary for almost two hours" despite being in a zone where parking is "forbidden".

"We have security forces who are tired and who don't have the power of ubiquity. We need to boost the numbers (in such) highly highly-frequented historic districts," she said.

Paris has been high terror alert since the November 13 attacks in which 130 people were killed and French intelligence services have been warning for months about the threat of car bombings.

In May Patrick Calvar, head of France's intelligence service, DGSI, told MPs that he was "convinced" that Isil would "move to the booby-trapped cars stage and explosive devices and that they will move up the scale in this way".

"We risk being confronted with a new form of attack: a terrorist campaign characterised by placing explosive devices in places where large crowds are gathered, and multiplying this type of action to create a climate of panic.

"Once they have bomb makers in place on our soil, they'll be able to avoid sacrificing fighters while creating maximum damage," he said at a parliamentary national defence committee meeting.

Thibault de Montbrial, president of the domestic intelligence think tank, CRSI, said: "A certain number of recent discoveries are considered by analysts to be 'tests' that may prefigure future attacks".

This week, François Molins, the Paris prosecutor, warned that while Isil - which claimed responsibility for the attacks - was losing ground in Syria and Iraq, the threat of terror strikes in Western Europe was ironically "reinforced" as the jihadist group sought to lash out.

One "worrying factor", he told Le Monde, was the threat of the return to France of around 2,000 French nationals either on their way to Syria or wishing to return. Some 700-odd are currently in Syria, he estimated.

In recent months, Mr Molins said, judges had noted "an acceleration of cases of young female minors with very worrying profiles, very harsh personalities. The are sometimes behind terror projects that from an intellectual standpoint, are starting to be very well thought-out."

Mr Cazeneuve said in recent days that French security services had arrested seven terror suspects in the month of August, including three that were in the process of planning an attack.
Notre-Dame Cathedal
The Notre-Dame Cathedal is one of Paris's most popular tourist sites Credit: AP

On Tuesday, Manuel Valls, the prime minister, warned: "The terror threat has never been so high."
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RE: Another Day in Paris: Notre Dame is Burning
(04-15-2019 01:39 PM)Horus Wrote:  
(04-15-2019 01:32 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  
(04-15-2019 01:20 PM)Horus Wrote:  
(04-15-2019 01:06 PM)Dusty Wrote:  This is like 9/11.

It's worse.

No it's not. Nobody's died.

I few thousand lives and a modern symbol of capitalism is worth less than a symbol of cultural and spiritual cohesion which has survived almost a thousand years.

Easy for you to say if it's not you, your child, your mother, your brother.

Quote:2,606 people who were in the World Trade Center and on the ground perished in the attacks on and the subsequent collapse of the towers, including 343 members of the New York City Fire Department (FDNY); and 71 law enforcement officers including 23 members of the New York City Police Department (NYPD), 37 members of the Port Authority Police Department (PAPD),

87 civilians (including 11 crew members) and the five hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 11; 60 civilians (including 9 crew members) and the five hijackers aboard United Airlines Flight 175
Fuk the hijackers but the rest were good.

There are scores of old cathedrals in Europe. Fires happen, no matter what the cause turns out to be. Some of these cathedrals have burned several times.

I wouldn't sacrifice one old lady or coot for a building. Hope everyone doesn't flip out over this.
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MONUMENTS CLAIM TERRITORY!

If you lose territory, you do not only lose thousands, you lose EVERYTHING, YOU CEASE TO EXIST!

You either die or you live in chains. There are "scores" of old cathedrals and we have MILLIONS of unnecessary humans in our countries.

Which would I sacrifice first? The death of thousands vs the death of a nation...

This Boomerposting, man... It's aggravating.

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The beginning of Holy Week and the burning of Notre Dame at the same time an accident?

BULL-FUCKING-SHIT!

This was a terrorist attack.
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I'm fucking furious right now and I'm not even a Catholic. This is a direct attack no fucking way it was from renovations.

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Now we know where Assange was keeping the backup evidence against Hillary Clinton


But seriously, this is a travesty and the timing is suspect.

At least no one was hurt.
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Every time I passed nearby, I refrained from visiting as there always was lots of people waiting.
Now I will never be able to.

French media are spinning the "worker incident" propaganda right now.
In a few days, I'm sure we'll get pictures of "asians" planning the attack and an ISIS claim.
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I'd love if Macron had a rendezvous with Madame La Guillotine. I'd usually favour rope but exceptional cases...

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So thankful I got to see it before the fire. My son and I climbed to the top of the front of the cathedral. Was a big a accomplishment for me because I am claustrophobic. If you have climbed those stairs you know what I mean.

Construction was begun in 1160 and completed in 1260.
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I think they will renovate it. After all, it has been upgraded many times since the first part of it was built nearly 1000 years ago. Many or most ancient European buildings that still stand have been heavily upgraded and rebuilt.

I'm sure there were priceless original treasures lost, but I understand the fire is out, and much of the building is still standing. Hopefully the damage to the remaining structure is not so severe that it can't be restored. The Dom in Aachen (Charlemagne's cathedral) was heavily damaged in WWII, and it was rebuilt.

Like Latan, I have passed by it a number of times, but did not want to take the time to wait in the entrance line. A lost chance for sure.

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How do "renovations" cause a fire like that? An electrical fire from an exposed wire? Wouldn't there be sprinklers to stop a small fire like that? Or is it not normal practice to install sprinklers in historic buildings? It's gonna take a lot to convince me this was an accident.
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Where the fuck are the firefighters? Why are people just standing there watching?

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Hypothesis: Macron's government does not survive this.

Facts don't matter. He'll be linked to this failure. Stink of a Dark Age on his name.

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(04-15-2019 01:57 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  MONUMENTS CLAIM TERRITORY!

If you lose territory, you do not only lose thousands, you lose EVERYTHING, YOU CEASE TO EXIST!

You either die or you live in chains. There are "scores" of old cathedrals and we have MILLIONS of unnecessary humans in our countries.

Which would I sacrifice first? The death of thousands vs the death of a nation...

This Boomerposting, man... It's aggravating.

That's what I was trying to express but I didn't have the right words. I'm sure there are thousands of "French" people watching this on TV right now and delighted by what they see.
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RE: Another Day in Paris: Notre Dame is Burning
The fire raging behind that stone facade in the dark...it's outright haunting. Feels almost like a foreshadowing. This is Europe's future.

Accident my ass. Another conquest for Islam I bet.
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These are not just STONES!

It's the heart of one of the MOST important and ancient cities of Europe and Christendom, being RIPPED OUT with no mercy, France is often called "The Fairest Daughter of the Church", and where are we now?

This is earth-shattering, Clash of Civilizations-worthy. It's ALL going to happen. Fight or die.

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"He always wanted to drift forever, but through the American Southwest."
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That shit is fucking insane

I remember a poster in the migrant invasion thread years ago telling people to visit Europe while it exists, and he's turning out to be terrifyingly correct
I had the luck to visit Paris and this specific monument last year but the whole place was already degraded to the point I felt like it wasn't much better managed than Rio
Place was riddled with panhandlers, dirty streets and of course 3rd world muslims similar to the favela people from back home, but with addition of sectarian religious hatred

Honestly, comparing this with 9/11 is useless, one is an attack on the spiritual and cultural memory of a nation and religion, while the other was an attack on people and infrastructure
Both are bad in different ways, so chill out all of you, fighting over such a petty argument is quite a waste
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(04-15-2019 01:57 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  MONUMENTS CLAIM TERRITORY!

If you lose territory, you do not only lose thousands, you lose EVERYTHING, YOU CEASE TO EXIST!

You either die or you live in chains. There are "scores" of old cathedrals and we have MILLIONS of unnecessary humans in our countries.

Which would I sacrifice first? The death of thousands vs the death of a nation...

This Boomerposting, man... It's aggravating.

Obviously you never knew anyone killed in an attack or disaster.

But if there's anyone who would know about losing territory, it would be a Portuguese.
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RE: Another Day in Paris: Notre Dame is Burning
This seems very suspicious, especially as holy week is upon us for Easter.

In regards to the firefighters... Only theory I may have is that due to the age of Notre Dame it isn't that easy to just dump thousands of pounds of water on the structure. These classic structures are robust but delicate at the same time and it may be that attacking that fire with traditional volumes of water may weaken certain points in the structure leading to more deep level damage.
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