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Problems Working Groups of Girls
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EmpireState Offline
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Problems Working Groups of Girls
2 variations of the same problem in loud bars/night game:

a) Open a target girl and ignore the friends. She seems in to me, so I don't try to meet the friends. After 10 mins, she says ok, my friends are from out of town so I shouldn't ignore them. I say "of course, go talk to your friends. What's your IG?" She gives it to me and doesn't accept my follow request.

b) Open a target girl. We hit it off for 2 mins, and I say "Are these your friends?" as I point to some girls she was standing with. She says yeah, and I say "cool, introduce me." So she does, and one of her average looking friends starts talking to me. I talk to average for a few minutes, being friendly/fun. The target girl and one of her other friends have left the immediate area, while I'm stuck talking to average chick. We chat for a few more minutes, me thinking that the target chick will come back. I'm getting bored, and so is average chick. I leave the set.

Situations a and b happen relatively frequently. It's not like I never pull a girl from a group, but it feels like it's a sticking point for me.

Any advice for avoiding the situations above or handling girls in groups better?

Practice always helps, but I've been doing this for 2 years most weekends in NYC. I feel like groups are a crap shoot.
(This post was last modified: 04-23-2019 09:45 PM by EmpireState.)
04-23-2019 09:22 PM
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RE: Problems Working Groups of Girls
Only approach groups (that are going to be a lot of work) if you get solid IOIs from your target.

Thats the only way its going to be worth the crap shoot, and the effort.

Otherwise focus on singles/doubles - better bang for buck.
04-25-2019 04:47 PM
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RE: Problems Working Groups of Girls
The absolute largest group that you should approach is a group of 3. Larger groups of women have more messy social dynamics, which are not conducive to meeting men. The larger groups of women are more focused on the groups and the female friendship.

Day game gives more isolation opportunities than night game.
04-28-2019 09:56 AM
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RE: Problems Working Groups of Girls
(04-28-2019 09:56 AM)SW15 Wrote:  The absolute largest group that you should approach is a group of 3. Larger groups of women have more messy social dynamics, which are not conducive to meeting men. The larger groups of women are more focused on the groups and the female friendship.

Day game gives more isolation opportunities than night game.

Bingo, this is why I only day game. Plus most women are picking up the signal that the bar is a shitty place. Especially with online dating.

Girl's nights out are common and it's an emphasis on the night day you'll see women who are alone and fine with men. At night due to society saying night is where creeps come out it's a whole different ball game.
05-01-2019 04:37 PM
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RE: Problems Working Groups of Girls
Approach someone else in the group, that's not your target. Then switch to your target.

- group will have established you're friendly/normal
- girl A might get defensive with girl B and ramps up attraction in both
- you include everyone for a good time and play some girls against each other - shit test them/make them qualify/get them reactive

I don't wait for IOIs, I wave, smile, pull faces and have the mindset of a politician campaigning for office. I force the IOIs and fluctuate between friendly, flirty and occasionally disinterested.
05-03-2019 02:06 AM
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