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JD, you are projecting again. Even if we tell you that we don't fit that mold, you won't believe us. Can you just move on to productive things? You may be right about certain things "broken" in the west, but to act like there aren't still good things there, and some bad things where you are, is just plain foolish.

Moving on, millenials aren't 22-38, millenials are kids raised in the 2000, I'd say 1992-93 earliest as far as birth dates. No one born in the 1980s is a millenial. The modern desktop computer didn't really hit major consumer audiences until the mid 1990s. Internet too, dial up.

How quickly younger women like older, wiser resource laden men will be dependent on just how honest the millenials are about how bleak their future is. It will either be that, which is healthy, or more sugaring --- the other side of the ledger. Yikes.

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(08-31-2019 08:09 PM)John Dodds Wrote:  
(08-31-2019 01:29 AM)Brother Abdul Majeed Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 08:07 PM)John Dodds Wrote:  This is the reality of the western world.
Entirely different where I live now, kids often live with their parents all their lives.
The western world is broken, along with the people that live in it.

Man, this is so sad.

My wife adores me and she lets me know it every day. I was over 40 when she met me (she's 15 years younger than me). We have 3 kids together and I have 2 kids from a previous marriage. I'm 53 now, she's 38, we met 10 years ago. My kids adore me also, they don't want me to die. My eldest are already in their late twenties and they need me because they will be taking my businesses over from me, but we are having a great time right now as I'm teaching them the ropes.

My wife cooks me a hot breakfast every single day, and when she's not at work (she's a nurse) she will make me lunch also. Dinner's up for grabs, we eat out a lot, but she will make that too when pressed.

I can't spend much physical time with my parents, as one lives in the U.K., the other lives in the Netherlands, and I live in Panama. I see them both every single year when I go to Europe with my family, so I do what I can do. I certainly do not rely on either of them for an inheritance, I made one myself to pass on to my kids.

Stop projecting the small life you have envisioned for yourself onto other people.

So in reality your life is exactly as I described.
You aren't living in the western world, and you hardly ever see your parents.

This is actually a perfect example of the reality disconnect I see all the time.

JD, are you saying that you must live physically close to your parents to disprove your claim that no one cares about their dad after he hits 50? I actually live about five minutes from my mom and dad now, and I see them at least once a week, usually more. My mom comes over a few times a week to help my wife with her grandkids while I'm at work. We have dinner over at my mom and dad's place most Sundays.

I did live overseas for a while and only saw them about once a year, but we'd talk on the phone a few times a week most weeks. I didn't somehow care about them less because I lived thousands of miles away and couldn't physically see them often.

Someone else on the thread alluded to your being jaded because of your past and I get that if you were divorce raped or something like that. Still I'd discourage anyone following along from avoiding getting married and having kids based on your experience. It's a risk, but I'd say it's worth it to avoid dying alone.

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(08-31-2019 09:49 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  JD, you are projecting again. Even if we tell you that we don't fit that mold, you won't believe us. Can you just move on to productive things? You may be right about certain things "broken" in the west, but to act like there aren't still good things there, and some bad things where you are, is just plain foolish.

Moving on, millenials aren't 22-38, millenials are kids raised in the 2000, I'd say 1992-93 earliest as far as birth dates. No one born in the 1980s is a millenial. The modern desktop computer didn't really hit major consumer audiences until the mid 1990s. Internet too, dial up.

How quickly younger women like older, wiser resource laden men will be dependent on just how honest the millenials are about how bleak their future is. It will either be that, which is healthy, or more sugaring --- the other side of the ledger. Yikes.
Nobody it seems is able to agree on exact dates for Xers and millennials but the most common accepted dates seem to be 1965-80 for Generation X and 1981-96 for Millennials. The term millennials was first used by Howe and Strauss in their book Generations which was published in 1991.
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^ Thanks.

I find the thread amusing ... "The Dangers"

As opposed to not having a legacy?

Yes, there are always tradeoffs.

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(08-31-2019 09:51 PM)bucky Wrote:  Someone else on the thread alluded to your being jaded because of your past and I get that if you were divorce raped or something like that. Still I'd discourage anyone following along from avoiding getting married and having kids based on your experience. It's a risk, but I'd say it's worth it to avoid dying alone.

Dude, I've been married almost all my adult life (barring the Brit divorce 6 months).
From age 22 to 64, I've had a woman in my bed almost every night (including during the divorce).
But after the first western marriage, I learned it's just too easy for white women to asset strip a man.
Get married in the third world, don't put anything in the woman's name, and she'll stay with you because there's no other way she can live. She may not really want you, but she'll stay because she needs your financing.
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(09-01-2019 07:09 PM)John Dodds Wrote:  
(08-31-2019 09:51 PM)bucky Wrote:  Someone else on the thread alluded to your being jaded because of your past and I get that if you were divorce raped or something like that. Still I'd discourage anyone following along from avoiding getting married and having kids based on your experience. It's a risk, but I'd say it's worth it to avoid dying alone.

Dude, I've been married almost all my adult life (barring the Brit divorce 6 months).
From age 22 to 64, I've had a woman in my bed almost every night (including during the divorce).
But after the first western marriage, I learned it's just too easy for white women to asset strip a man.
Get married in the third world, don't put anything in the woman's name, and she'll stay with you because there's no other way she can live. She may not really want you, but she'll stay because she needs your financing.

If you get married in the third world you will need to get the courts involved just to get her into the states, correct?
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Incorrect.
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(08-30-2019 04:10 AM)John Dodds Wrote:  Nobody wants you when you're over 50, not even your own kids, they just want you to die so they can inherit.
This isn't a mental problem, this is reality, money can still buy you company but nobody really wants you any more.
(I could have probably put 35 years old and still have been 99% right)

No offense, but it's hard to take any of your posts seriously after you posted this. I'm not sure what planet you're living on where you think people want their parents to die after they turn 50.
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(09-01-2019 07:42 PM)SeaFM Wrote:  Incorrect.

You bring her over as presumed girlfriend?
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(09-01-2019 07:42 PM)SeaFM Wrote:  Incorrect.

You're telling me that if I, as an american citizen (indian born with indian citizenship as well), marry a 9/10 in india and then import her here, she can't divorce me and take half my money?
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(09-01-2019 08:42 PM)travolta Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 04:10 AM)John Dodds Wrote:  Nobody wants you when you're over 50, not even your own kids, they just want you to die so they can inherit.
This isn't a mental problem, this is reality, money can still buy you company but nobody really wants you any more.
(I could have probably put 35 years old and still have been 99% right)

No offense, but it's hard to take any of your posts seriously after you posted this. I'm not sure what planet you're living on where you think people want their parents to die after they turn 50.

Yeah. I was going to continue to engage him but what you said sums it up. Best to let him languish in his private hell, I suppose.

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(09-01-2019 08:42 PM)travolta Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 04:10 AM)John Dodds Wrote:  Nobody wants you when you're over 50, not even your own kids, they just want you to die so they can inherit.
This isn't a mental problem, this is reality, money can still buy you company but nobody really wants you any more.
(I could have probably put 35 years old and still have been 99% right)

No offense, but it's hard to take any of your posts seriously after you posted this. I'm not sure what planet you're living on where you think people want their parents to die after they turn 50.

Your white mom stopped having sex with your dad when he was 40+, then moved to a separate bed, probably in a separate room (or divorce).
You stopped visiting your dad when you were 25+, apart from thanksgiving dinner.
Ask your dad how he feels about it, then get him to post here.

Back to the OP, settling down after 40.
As a white man in the west, it's a lose lose situation.
There's still a 50% divorce rate, and even if in the 'lucky' 50%, very little (if any) sex after 40, it's a bad bet.
If you want to avoid feeling lonely, yellow Labradors are great pets.

I'm always interested to see how Roosh manages his life (as he's now in this age group).
So far, single, no children, books banned from distribution, and banned from entering the UK.
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(06-17-2019 12:21 PM)Laner Wrote:  
(06-16-2019 07:10 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  ^^Mixed race caramel colored guy here, and speaking for all of my caramel colored guys I personally know (black + white) we are just fine and your assumptions about my "need to belong " are erroneous. However feel free to have your opinion- leave the interracial sex to me.

Yep, mixed race guy here checking in too.

I might look white, but it didn't stop my dad from loving and raising me. My sister doesn't look white, but my didn't stop loving her.

My son is mixed race and seems to fit in fine. His mother is mixed race, but pretends not be because her mixes are racist as fuck (not western).

I guess Atlanta Man and myself are lucky and can bang outside our race with no hang ups. I will teach my poor (mixed race) son the same, and perhaps he can be forced to love eurasian bitches as much as his (mixed race) old man.

My 8yo son is mixed race (Thai/Brit) the girls at school are all over him because of his white skin. He certainly doesn't seem to have a problem with it.
And he has two passports, can travel most of the world without a VISA when he's older.
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I’m saying the courts are not involved.
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JD 64 YO old now lives in Thailand to be with other like minded bottom feeders. Last few years have seen the rise of the "Pessimistic/negative/loser troll". We need to make this sort of continuous shit posting a banable offence.
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(09-02-2019 12:47 AM)John Dodds Wrote:  Back to the OP, settling down after 40.
As a white man in the west, it's a lose lose situation.
There's still a 50% divorce rate, and even if in the 'lucky' 50%, very little (if any) sex after 40, it's a bad bet.
If you want to avoid feeling lonely, yellow Labradors are great pets.

I'm always interested to see how Roosh manages his life (as he's now in this age group).
So far, single, no children, books banned from distribution, and banned from entering the UK.

Holy shit, Roosh's life must really suck big time if he is banned from the UK. How can you survive without visiting that wonderful country?
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(09-02-2019 07:24 AM)kazz Wrote:  JD 64 YO old now lives in Thailand to be with other like minded bottom feeders. Last few years have seen the rise of the "Pessimistic/negative/loser troll". We need to make this sort of continuous shit posting a banable offence.

Like a lot of guys, JD seems bitter about the fact that women don't love like blue pilled beta males. Of course they always want something from us. Essentially they want either excitement (alpha fux) or someone to provide for their children (beta bux). It's their nature, and there's no use resenting them for behaving according to it. Understanding the mechanics of how female love works doesn't make it any less real or enjoyable, it just makes it easier to accept for what it is and act accordingly.

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This guy John Dodds is trolling. Seems like the type of guy that got shoved into lockers and beaten up a lot when he was in high school. "I'm older than you, so you better listen to me" does not apply to guys like this. I've met plenty of dumb old people in my life.
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Early 40s here, and not the slightest desire to settle down. The term "settle down" is an insult of sorts, implying that avoiding the minefield of modern-day marriage somehow means one is lacking control. When, in reality, I'm in more control of my life than others who thought they found the one or whatever and caved in to outside pressures and got married.

My stubbornness has served me well.

I've had a recent wave of friends around my age, or slightly older, going through divorce. Guys who spent the past 20+ years putting in long hours week after week, working hard to pay the mortgage and the utilities and everything else, only to have to sell their house and temporarily move back in with their parents.

You know what they've said to me? "Kilgo, you were so smart. I wish I had done it like you did. Don't ever get married." One after another in remarkably similar form, and these are friends from different social groups.

In a related note, this is why some of my married-but-miserable friends have wives who irrationally hate me. And I normally get along well with just about everyone.

I suspect it's because I remind their husband of the life he threw away to sign a marriage contract with an incognito succubus. Meanwhile, I'm able to follow my passions and (within reason) do what I want when I want. They *really* don't like that last part.

I think of the women who have wanted me to marry them through the years, going back to high school. Every time, and I mean every time, it would have failed, especially before I learned Game. Starting with the girl I took to prom junior year, sexy in the early-mid '90s, who ended up obese and a grandmother before the age of 40.

The best is when you finally end things with a woman who won't quit pushing for marriage, and then she hits you with a barrage of complaints and insults on the way out. Like a Festivus-style airing of grievances clearance sale, which for me only serves to redouble the thought that I dodged a bullet yet again.

The most recent girl for me said that I both spend too much time working (being self-employed isn't easy) but also supposedly live a life without responsibilities. A buzzsaw of contempt lurking just below the surface.

They always think they can change me. But they never do.

To be fair, I do have some friends who are legit happily married. I can see it in their eyes. But some of them transformed into watered-down versions of what they once were, to the point where it's like talking to a different person altogether, particularly if they're around their spouse.

For the fortunate few who have maintained their frame and their happiness in marriage, I'm happy. Hooray, it worked! But, unfortunately, they tend to be the exception and not the rule.
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Great points, Kilgo. I'm not far behind you, and have to remind myself that if I actually did find the type I'm looking for, it would (by definition) work: I'm guessing those that didn't work out in your story (marriages) didn't really have any meaningful values beyond "hope."

Here's the problem, and also why I'm in your shoes: these kind of women are barely around in the US, forgetting the idiotic laws that make them so comfortable once "game over" is stamped on your forehead by the state.

"Supposedly live a life without responsiblities"

Yes, they have to go to any length possible to invent some sort of moral platitude out of envy. I'm guessing she does not strive to do anything virtuous, she who said that. Don't even bother telling me if I'm right or not.

Keep going, and you know the story, look belowCool

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(09-09-2019 07:11 AM)Kilgo Wrote:  The best is when you finally end things with a woman who won't quit pushing for marriage, and then she hits you with a barrage of complaints and insults on the way out.

That used to bother me but now I know that it can mean only two things:

1) she is just manufacturing stuff she doesn't believe out of butthurt
2) she only stuck around as a means to an end and never really loved me

Either way, it doesn't make her look good and erodes a man's ability to trust a woman.

BUT it reflects a woman's underlying transactional approach to dating. They aren't with a man for his intrinsic qualities, but just as a lure for commitment for the sake of kids/resources.

Women don't like consciously accepting that they are transactional and not romantic. So when you throw this back in their face the smoke comes out of their ears. The more they argue their point the more mercenary they will appear.

The last part about this which women don't understand is that once you pull the nuclear option like this there's no turning back. She's burning her bridges. And yet women expect that if they stomp up and down that suddenly the guy's going to relent and put a ring on it? In what universe? It's childish temper-tantrum-like behavior. When you're a parent you can't disown a whiny child so you're a captive audience but you can certainly walk away from a whiny woman. So fighting never works (with a man who has a shred of self-respect).

Bottom line is men have the most leverage prior to marriage. Abandon that leverage at your own peril.
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(09-09-2019 08:34 AM)questor70 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 07:11 AM)Kilgo Wrote:  The best is when you finally end things with a woman who won't quit pushing for marriage, and then she hits you with a barrage of complaints and insults on the way out.

That used to bother me but now I know that it can mean only two things:

1) she is just manufacturing stuff she doesn't believe out of butthurt
2) she only stuck around as a means to an end and never really loved me

Either way, it doesn't make her look good and erodes a man's ability to trust a woman.

BUT it reflects a woman's underlying transactional approach to dating. They aren't with a man for his intrinsic qualities, but just as a lure for commitment for the sake of kids/resources.

Women don't like consciously accepting that they are transactional and not romantic. So when you throw this back in their face the smoke comes out of their ears. The more they argue their point the more mercenary they will appear.

The last part about this which women don't understand is that once you pull the nuclear option like this there's no turning back. She's burning her bridges. And yet women expect that if they stomp up and down that suddenly the guy's going to relent and put a ring on it? In what universe? It's childish temper-tantrum-like behavior. When you're a parent you can't disown a whiny child so you're a captive audience but you can certainly walk away from a whiny woman. So fighting never works (with a man who has a shred of self-respect).

Bottom line is men have the most leverage prior to marriage. Abandon that leverage at your own peril.

Great stuff.

Quote:Abandon that leverage at your peril

I'd add, "If you do, make sure her dad loves you."

And even that works only half the time. Blush

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(09-02-2019 07:24 AM)kazz Wrote:  JD 64 YO old now lives in Thailand to be with other like minded bottom feeders. Last few years have seen the rise of the "Pessimistic/negative/loser troll". We need to make this sort of continuous shit posting a banable offence.

Is it a bannable offense, but no one has reported JD's posts.

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