Post: #151

There was a post on here which basically said all that needed to be said. Bottom line was this: If you are a loser in life, then yeah, after 40 it'll be tough to find a young quality gf/ wife. If you are a winner, then you shouldn't have a problem locking one down. It might take a while but it's possible. And no, not all hope is lost (unless you are a loser). I'm not saying that it's ideal to wait until you are 40+ since this a individual question. However, this has been done since the beginning of time.

Your job as a man is to recognize where you stand on the loser-winner spectrum and behave accordingly. Also, goddess Fortuna has a strong hand in this as she has in every aspect of life.

Post: #152

(06-08-2019 09:23 AM)BoiBoi Wrote:  There was a post on here which basically said all that needed to be said. Bottom line was this: If you are a loser in life, then yeah, after 40 it'll be tough to find a young quality gf/ wife. If you are a winner, then you shouldn't have a problem locking one down. It might take a while but it's possible. And no, not all hope is lost (unless you are a loser). I'm not saying that it's ideal to wait until you are 40+ since this a individual question. However, this has been done since the beginning of time.

Your job as a man is to recognize where you stand on the loser-winner spectrum and behave accordingly. Also, goddess Fortuna has a strong hand in this as she has in every aspect of life.

Even a 40 plus low income dude could easily get a woman pregnant. Its getting someone who would be valuable as a mother that would be tricky.

Post: #153

Truthfully, Hot girls are not what you should look for to settle with-smart women who are a 7-8.5 are better. I say smart because you do not want to have stupid children, ultimately the economy demands higher IQ people and higher IQ people will have success in the bigger picture. I would rather have an 19 year old 7 with brains and and a low notch count than a 10 who is dumb as a sack of rocks to build something with. In my experience in this economy I would be suffering without the intelligence to provide a real value to my clients, my specialized knowledge is serving me well-I want the same for my children.

Post: #154

(06-08-2019 04:33 AM)kazz Wrote:  If your over 40 all hope is lost, once you hit 40 you have two choices, live the next 40 years or so, if you live that long in agonising loneliness with only memories of 'the good old days' to keep you company. Or just end it there and then.

Your only chance might be to wife up a woman from a far flung province in the Philippines where they dont have the internet yet because the buff young chads have all Pinnays even on lock down now, or if your lucky you might still be able to snag a solid 2 something like this.




Lets not sugar coat it gentlemen if you have not settled down by 40 your life may as well be over.

Im almost 48 and my 26 yo girl of 3 years who is at this moment cooking me breakfast as she does almost every day and wants nothing more in life than to be my wife and mother to my children. She also happens to be very very very attractive IMO...this could be her twin sister.



I'm really glad I didn't get the memo that my life was over 8 years ago


Edit: I'll post this here as well. More than ever I think a girls mindset and emotional disposition are crucial for LTR consideration, Ignore this at your peril.

PapayaTapper (08-24-2015 12:14 AM)' Wrote:  One quality I think is essential for any girl to have as a LTR candidate is what I call "the happy gene". Is her natural equilibrium an upbeat / happy /laughs easily kind of demeanor ? Or is she prone to states of moroseness/crabbiness or acerbity that needs to be actively entertained/stimulated into being "happy"?

Before I knew better I exhausted a lot of time, money and energy on "sourpussy" because they were hot. I spent 5 years and I dont know how much money on one because she was smoking (tall blond bikini/ lingerie model) before I had enough and pulled the plug

If a girl doesn't have that "happy gene"...she's not long for my world anymore. If there was only piece of advice I could give a guy thinking about wifeing up,,,make sure she has that quality

Actually "mindset" is absolutely critical for a man too

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-63951...pid1956847

Post: #155

@PT are you located in the US and how'd you meet her?

Post: #156

Yes Im in the US and I met her while on a first date with another very attractive girl. She was at the adjacent table with a group of girl friends and I decided to upgrade on the spot

Edit: Disclosure- She is NOT from the US. She's from EE and was in the US studying English.

Post: #157

Yes, but you keep overlooking the same thing over and over and over. You're PPT. It's very heartwarming that you believe in the power of everyone to do what you've done. Tre Americana. But it's simply not going to happen for most guys.

The poster above hit the nail on the head IMO. You have to be realistic about your own capacity and most guys are not now nor ever will be PPT material.

Take it as compliment. Genetics matter. Upbringing matters. Most dudes are not going to be able to Tony Robbins their way past that stuff. The ones that can certainly dont look for advice on forums.

Post: #158

(06-08-2019 11:11 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Yes, but you keep overlooking the same thing over and over and over. You're PPT. It's very heartwarming that you believe in the power of everyone to do what you've done. Tre Americana. But it's simply not going to happen for most guys.

The poster above hit the nail on the head IMO. You have to be realistic about your own capacity and most guys are not now nor ever will be PPT material.

Take it as compliment. Genetics matter. Upbringing matters. Most dudes are not going to be able to Tony Robbins their way past that stuff. The ones that can certainly dont look for advice on forums.

They used to.

Edit: The thing is that I KNOW mindset / inner dialogue CAN be changed with sufficient intent.

Its immutable.

But its not necessarily an either / or "switch". In fact its most often its like a "filter" thats built one fiber at a time. The first "fiber" is the hardest. Once its in position the next one is more easily caught, ...and so on and so on.

Mental exercise is just like physical development. Before long the "it's not possible" habit, becomes "maybe ", then becomes "Of course!"

Post: #159

Papaya I think point is not to discourage guys to think that their life is over by 40 if they're not settled down and that they can never find someone much younger than them, even at your age but to just to be realistic about the situation. Clearly you're an exception to the rule and I've seen some of my older friends with younger women as well. I know a guy whose 50 who married a 30 yr old Canadian girl and I've seen a few other guys dating younger women and getting serious with them. Hell even I've dated a couple girls 20 years younger so if I can do it, then it's certainly within the realm of possibility for many other men. It's just that for the vast majority of guys, it will likely be a struggle. Also getting the young girl is just the first part and I would dare say that this is the easy part, or at least the easier part.

The much harder part comes when you get married and raise kids while you continue to age. For those who have never done it, the amount of stamina and energy it takes to raise a family cannot be overstated. This is where being younger is a distinct advantage. There is no way I could handle young kids at 50 and even if your wife is doing most of the work, you'll still have a lot to do. In the example of my 50 year old friend with his 30yr old wife, they decided not to have any kids because they feel that they wouldn't be able to handle it. Based on what I see of him, I'd say there is no way he could handle small children. There needs to be a distinction made between finding a young chick which is challenging enough but certainly possible and actually being married and raising a family which is the far more difficult tougher task.

Post: #160

I get that...I really do. But in the end how many people's lives are actually "ideal" regardless of age? Its just one of many many variables. The anecdotes are endless

The only absolute is no one gets out alive

Post: #161

(06-08-2019 11:41 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  I get that...I really do. But in the end how many people's lives are actually "ideal" regardless of age? Its just one of many many variables. The anecdotes are endless

Agreed wholeheartedly. No one's life is ideal that's for sure and all of the best laid plans can go awry. As the great Mike Tyson said "everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face" You can ask some of the guys here who have met me about how crazy unexpected things went in my life and that's just how it is much of the time. The point of this discussion is to give some of the younger guys some perspective of things as you get older. I agree with you that being optimistic, hopeful and having a good mindset is critical, especially if you want to age well. Just that a dose of realism is important as well to keep oneself balanced and sane.

Post: #162

(06-08-2019 07:35 AM)MikeS Wrote:  

(06-08-2019 04:33 AM)kazz Wrote:  If your over 40 all hope is lost, once you hit 40 you have two choices, live the next 40 years or so, if you live that long in agonising loneliness with only memories of 'the good old days' to keep you company. Or just end it there and then.

Your only chance might be to wife up a woman from a far flung province in the Philippines where they dont have the internet yet because the buff young chads have all Pinnays even on lock down now, or if your lucky you might still be able to snag a solid 2 something like this.




Lets not sugar coat it gentlemen if you have not settled down by 40 your life may as well be over.

If that was an attempt at sarcastic humour, good one. If not, do we have an award for stupidest post of the day?
In case of the latter I'm guessing kazz is either very young or over 40 but feeling like a total failure and projecting that onto the rest of us.

Yes I was being sarcastic. And from where im looking the only danger would have been settling down before 40.

Post: #163

The twin danger of this thread is that it could convince bachelors circa 40 that Game/ Red Pill ended their family lines and men under 25 that they have a legitimate chance of a lifetime marriage with women their ages.

Both statements ignore that the marriage market of women between 18-29.9 has collapsed in the West.

This means men will resort to fornication through porn, the hook up culture that has replaced marriage culture, sex bot fornication or risk the mental illness of a fluctuating volcel-incel.

Post: #164

(06-08-2019 10:45 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  Yes Im in the US and I met her while on a first date with another very attractive girl. She was at the adjacent table with a group of girl friends and I decided to upgrade on the spot

You can't just tease us like that. How did you manage to pull that off? Definitely a story worthy of its own post, slight derail of the thread be damned.

Post: #165

Personally I'm just glad that PPT has the resources to have those elbows of hers fixed.

Post: #166

30 years of age difference, her dad died when she was a child
The guy is not even in his best shape..

Post: #167

(06-09-2019 11:00 AM)mehdreamer Wrote:  30 years of age difference, her dad died when she was a child
The guy is not even in his best shape..

This video made me cringe, but good for him. This seems like an anomaly

Post: #168

Creepy as heck the way the mad hatter on the guy's shirt is staring down at the baby.

Anyway, he's still not going to feature prominently in his grandchildren's lives. Videos like this are akin to stories about how "my nana smoked a pack a day and lived to 90". And if the genders were reversed we'd rightly be screaming bloody murder.

"Gratz, kid. You'll grow up just in time to be able to take shifts with your mum changing your dad's depends."

Post: #169

(06-09-2019 09:26 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

(06-08-2019 10:45 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  Yes Im in the US and I met her while on a first date with another very attractive girl. She was at the adjacent table with a group of girl friends and I decided to upgrade on the spot

You can't just tease us like that. How did you manage to pull that off? Definitely a story worthy of its own post, slight derail of the thread be damned.

I wrote a detailed account (dont remember what game thread) right after it happened. I dont think given the current rules I can retell it as my intentions were definitely not honorable at the time and my warning level is "too damn high" right now

Post: #170

I haven't seen anyone mention about science and how most of this stuff could be outdated in another 20 to 30 years as robots will be smarter than people sometime in our lifetimes.

By the time the kid is 18 they won't be asking people for advice most likely in the traditional since.

I'm past 40 and having no problem getting dates with girls in their 20s but of course I won't be living in the U.S.

Not everyone was out partying in their 20s some guys were workaholics and not dating so they can build their business up and want to start in their 30s.

The talk about being past prime at 30 to me seems really bad advice. My friends from high school all got married and now 2 out of 3 are divorced already. Their wives are same age. 2 out of the 3 don't look bangable anymore.

I'm traveling the world and have my choice of the litter. I'm not concerned at all about being past 40. I'm holding all of the cards as there many girls out there who will appreciate a guy like myself who reads, goes to the gym, has his act together.

Having the LTR as a goal is great. But getting married is the risky part for a guy such as myself. I'm not saying it's not a possibility but I don't think it's mandatory of course.

About thinking forward 20 and 30 years again, times are changing fast. I'm not going to overthink it or worry too much about it, personally. If I hadn't been focusing work and sucked at game up till like mid 30 maybe I'm in a different situation, but as is I think I'm doing really well.

Edit: Just because it worked for me does not mean it will work for future generations. Feminism, globalism, and technology are spreading and changing rapidly. But for my generation X, I think it's fine. There's just no telling the possible futures, you might be able to have a custom 18 yo hottie built to order made by a robot one day, in my imagination. If the world isn't destroyed by robots or technology or whatever as fast as everything is changing.

My vote is take your time and travel with the current state, if you can afford it and are interested. If stuck in the U.S. that's another dynamic where the advice in the thread seems more relevant than for an international traveler. My comfort zone was to become modernised, location independent, and get out of the rat race. If you're happy in the U.S. working a stable job, with a traditional family then by all means stay in that situation. Applying those values globally and thinking others should automatically do that I totally disagree with.


Cheers!

Post: #171

(06-09-2019 08:53 PM)Freebird Flying Wrote:  I haven't seen anyone mention about science and how most of this stuff could be outdated in another 20 to 30 years as robots will be smarter than people sometime in our lifetimes.

By the time the kid is 18 they won't be asking people for advice most likely in the traditional since.

I'm past 40 and having no problem getting dates with girls in their 20s but of course I won't be living in the U.S.

Not everyone was out partying in their 20s some guys were workaholics and not dating so they can build their business up and want to start in their 30s.

The talk about being past prime at 30 to me seems really bad advice. My friends from high school all got married and now 2 out of 3 are divorced already. Their wives are same age. 2 out of the 3 don't look bangable anymore.

I'm traveling the world and have my choice of the litter. I'm not concerned at all about being past 40. I'm holding all of the cards as there many girls out there who will appreciate a guy like myself who reads, goes to the gym, has his act together.

Having the LTR as a goal is great. But getting married is the risky part for a guy such as myself. I'm not saying it's not a possibility but I don't think it's mandatory of course.

Cheers!

I agree that we are definitely going to see some pretty profound technological changes in our lifetime that could have some pretty devastating effects on the female-male relationship dynamic. What would be the point in marrying some fickle female who's emotions will shift on a whim or become out of shape as soon as you say the words "I do" or have kids with her when you can just have a robot do all the 'heavy lifting'?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/f...dangerous/

I would be curious to know, what part of the world are you traveling through and how are you meeting these younger women?

Post: #172

I see problems with both younger and older women, local and foreign.

Old (26+) locals and foreign:
+ Ruined psyches and non-virginal, which means your marriage can never be truly sacred and will be against the will of God. And that's just for starters.

Young, virgin with similar SMV (Western):
+ Extremely rare and hard to obtain in today's market, since they are so rare (especially if your own SMV is 7 or above). Finding one that is "normal" in the head (it's not normal for an 18-20 year old girl to be a virgin or wanting to stay that way until marriage). So finding this is only really possible if you are high school sweethearts or you are a movie star (but even then it comes with a host of new problems). On top of it all she will likely get ruined in time by society/friends/media anyway.

Young, virgin with similar SMV (Third world/foreign):
+ Probably will get ruined in time by society/friends/media.
+ Will give you mixed race children.
+ Even if of a similar race, you'd have to live in her country or it won't work.

Young, virgin with much lower SMV (Western):
+ Still quite hard to find since she has to be a virgin. You will be ashamed of having her by your side since you'll feel deep down that you deserve something better. Your kids will also turn out less attractive which will hurt their chances in life.

Young, virgin with much lower SMV (Foreign):
+ A last resort for someone who just don't wanna be alone in life. Even more embarrassing to have by your side.

Pick your poison.

Post: #173

(06-10-2019 12:48 PM)MyFabolousLife Wrote:  I agree that we are definitely going to see some pretty profound technological changes in our lifetime that could have some pretty devastating effects on the female-male relationship dynamic.

We are going to?

Post: #174

(06-10-2019 09:02 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

(06-10-2019 12:48 PM)MyFabolousLife Wrote:  I agree that we are definitely going to see some pretty profound technological changes in our lifetime that could have some pretty devastating effects on the female-male relationship dynamic.

We are going to?

I don't have a crystal ball so I can't say for certain but it already appears to be heading in that direction. In a lot of cities, nightlife is dying out and alternatives such as sex robot technology is advancing rapidly.

Post: #175

(06-11-2019 11:36 AM)MyFabolousLife Wrote:  

(06-10-2019 09:02 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

(06-10-2019 12:48 PM)MyFabolousLife Wrote:  I agree that we are definitely going to see some pretty profound technological changes in our lifetime that could have some pretty devastating effects on the female-male relationship dynamic.

We are going to?

I don't have a crystal ball so I can't say for certain but it already appears to be heading in that direction. In a lot of cities, nightlife is dying out and alternatives such as sex robot technology is advancing rapidly.

I think, as you just pointed out, his point was that we are already living in that change. It's already fucked and were only gonna get worse in that regards. Even looking for traditional girls in SEA or EE will die out sooner than later.