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RE: Dangers of "Settling Down" at 40+
Why do guys who have been sleeping around with countless women dream about marrying a virgin?
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(06-13-2019 07:27 AM)Radu Anghel Wrote:  Why do guys who have been sleeping around with countless women dream about marrying a virgin?

The most simplistic answer to that question is:

Experienced men tend to become so redpilled about female promiscuity and accept the sobering truths of female nature that they tend to place much more value upon a chaste and pure woman.

Generally speaking, the experienced man has seen so much that he can not un-see, and therefore is deeply affected by these experiences... and he seeks to settle down with a woman who he deems "different" and a virtuous outlier to his countless previous women.

In basic behavioural psychology and consumer marketing, humans place a greater emphasis on something that is seen as "rare". And, my good fellow, in this day-and-age, chaste women are most certainly rare.

Also, a slight addendum I will add... I don't think experienced men necessary want only/exclusively a virgin per-se... I think many these men would still consider a woman of a lesser experience (1-4) to be suitable for settling down and not a deal-breaker at all.
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There is no guarantee that a woman without strong principles, either virgin or low notch count, will make a good wife. What values does a fornicator bring in a family and passes to his children? A marriage is more than sex. If the wife has an accident and gets paralysed, what does the man do? Sleeps around? Or what if same wife gets fat or gets her face distroyed in an accident? Leave her for another who is thin and beautiful?
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RE: Dangers of "Settling Down" at 40+
Yes. If she gets fat - leave her. Other suggestions? Stay and be miserable is probably a better one. Getting fat is reversible and controllable.

If she gets in an accident ... of course this one is more difficult and careless leaving is not moral.
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(06-14-2019 11:07 AM)Radu Anghel Wrote:  There is no guarantee that a woman without strong principles, either virgin or low notch count, will make a good wife.

Of course there's no guarantees, because there's no 100% guarantees with anything in life, but there more certainly is a statistical correlation because a woman's thotery and her unsuitability as a wife/mother.

(06-14-2019 11:07 AM)Radu Anghel Wrote:  What values does a fornicator bring in a family and passes to his children?

A fornicator who is a good father would have a higher chance to bring lots of value to his family and children. A fornicator who is not a good father would have a lower chance to bring lots of value to his family and children.

So, what's your point exactly?

I think your point is that more fornication = worse father. If so, please tell me where's your data on this?

If anything the data could show a correlation from the opposite of what you're saying... generally men with higher SMV are successful in life and business have the competency and resources to be successful as a father. But of course, this is a generalisation and there are exceptions.

Men and woman are biological different, we were designed this way for a reason, by evolution or god. A woman peaks at a young age has to preserve her value, a man starts with no success and has to create his value.

(06-14-2019 11:07 AM)Radu Anghel Wrote:  A marriage is more than sex.

Yes, exactly. Hence why a man should pick a wife whose displayed enough self-control in her past to prove that she is less of an NPC and that her body is a sacred thing that shouldn't be given to countless people. Research shows that biologically women attach more feelings and pair-bonding hormones to sex, also from a evolutionary supply-and-demand perspective, eggs are expensive and sperm is cheap, because only a woman's body can get pregnant for 9 months (before a certain age) whilst men can reproduce immediately (for a longer age).

(06-14-2019 11:07 AM)Radu Anghel Wrote:  If the wife has an accident and gets paralysed, what does the man do? Sleeps around?

He should take care of her, obviously, this has nothing to do with the man's sex life. This hypothetical is off-topic.

(06-14-2019 11:07 AM)Radu Anghel Wrote:  Or what if same wife gets fat or gets her face distroyed in an accident? Leave her for another who is thin and beautiful?

If she gets fat then she should take the necessary action to get thin. This is 100% her own control and her own agency. Strange question.
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(06-13-2019 07:27 AM)Radu Anghel Wrote:  Why do guys who have been sleeping around with countless women dream about marrying a virgin?

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(06-09-2019 11:00 AM)mehdreamer Wrote:  30 years of age difference, her dad died when she was a child
The guy is not even in his best shape..



I know it's off topic but... I really can't stand tattoos on women - I don't think I'd ever marry one with ANY tattoos. And I'm past 40 already so... I'm really limiting my options in this brave new world.

(06-10-2019 04:32 PM)Pinkman Wrote:  Young, virgin with similar SMV (Third world/foreign)
+ Probably will get ruined in time by society/friends/media.
+ Will give you mixed race children.
+ Even if of a similar race, you'd have to live in her country or it won't work.

Exactly - this is important to me. If we are Red Pilled, then following along with societies push to go cappuccino colored so we're easier to be ruled by our (((overlords))) then having kids with someone of another race is unacceptable. Even if the other race is high IQ, like East Asian.

Also, many mixed kids feel they don't belong anywhere, and of course this is true. They would belong in a cappuccino favela-Hell society (Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi's wet-dream) but we know better (or should)

If you are from the West and marry and kid up with a SEA or an African, or some retarded Latin American... you are really dumbing down and doing your DNA a huge disservice.

I've met several very sweet girls in Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines who were good women, some of them virgins (not anymore, heh) and they would have wifed me easily and were 20 years younger than me. All sounds good but I'm not marrying a Filipina, no way.

This is not race baiting; this is cold, hard reality for Western men.

I'd ideally choose someone of my own nation but obviously that's (i) very hard to find an attractive woman at all (ii) one who could handle a larger age gap (iii) one who wouldn't divorce rape me anyway.

So options include another European country. Staying European seems permissible, it's happened a lot in history and we are a mixed bunch anyway, though all Anglo. We share the same sort of culture and values, and often the same language systems.

Much as EE women are purportedly hot, they carry a stigma about them as being lower value and whoreish.

Russian... never dated one. I have much admiration for their culture and country but they are very different to us. Also, I can't recall seeing any women over 30 from Russia who were attractive to me? Early 20s sure but... as someone already over 40, I'd be looking at around 30s for wifing and kidding up. Pop out 4 or 5 before she's 35. It's all a bit of a rush I must say!

Unlikely to happen probably ... sorry ancestors from hundreds of thousands of years ago....

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^^Mixed race caramel colored guy here, and speaking for all of my caramel colored guys I personally know (black + white) we are just fine and your assumptions about my "need to belong " are erroneous. However feel free to have your opinion- leave the interracial sex to me.

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(06-16-2019 07:10 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  ^^Mixed race caramel colored guy here, and speaking for all of my caramel colored guys I personally know (black + white) we are just fine and your assumptions about my "need to belong " are erroneous. However feel free to have your opinion- leave the interracial sex to me.

Not to derail this thread, but I wonder where this stereotype stems from. I'm the whitest dude around but I love black women and hence, there is a possibility that at some point, I'll have mixed kids. I understand that people want their kids to look like them, but this stuff that mixed people are basically easily controllable idiots is beyond me. Sure, from a tribal perspective I get the implications (not being able to properly identify with the tribe) but in this glorious age of Globo-Homolization, I've lost the ability to identify with "my" tribe a long time ago. Plus, I'd rather hang out with an educated African than with some dumb white fool.
Also, I'm from Europe and would never identify as white first and foremost. This is some US-American shit. I'd rather identify with my nation or city since being white is pretty much the norm where I'm from.
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(06-16-2019 07:10 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  ^^Mixed race caramel colored guy here, and speaking for all of my caramel colored guys I personally know (black + white) we are just fine and your assumptions about my "need to belong " are erroneous. However feel free to have your opinion- leave the interracial sex to me.

Yep, mixed race guy here checking in too.

I might look white, but it didn't stop my dad from loving and raising me. My sister doesn't look white, but my didn't stop loving her.

My son is mixed race and seems to fit in fine. His mother is mixed race, but pretends not be because her mixes are racist as fuck (not western).

I guess Atlanta Man and myself are lucky and can bang outside our race with no hang ups. I will teach my poor (mixed race) son the same, and perhaps he can be forced to love eurasian bitches as much as his (mixed race) old man.
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(06-16-2019 11:09 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  This is not race baiting; this is cold, hard reality for Western men.

I'd ideally choose someone of my own nation but obviously that's (i) very hard to find an attractive woman at all (ii) one who could handle a larger age gap (iii) one who wouldn't divorce rape me anyway.

So options include another European country. Staying European seems permissible, it's happened a lot in history and we are a mixed bunch anyway, though all Anglo. We share the same sort of culture and values, and often the same language systems.

Much as EE women are purportedly hot, they carry a stigma about them as being lower value and whoreish.

Russian... never dated one. I have much admiration for their culture and country but they are very different to us. Also, I can't recall seeing any women over 30 from Russia who were attractive to me? Early 20s sure but... as someone already over 40, I'd be looking at around 30s for wifing and kidding up. Pop out 4 or 5 before she's 35. It's all a bit of a rush I must say!

Unlikely to happen probably ... sorry ancestors from hundreds of thousands of years ago....

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The cold heart truth, is that Europeans aren't even close to replacement levels when it comes to having kids. Before, you look at other women - I suggest you look at your own Anglo women. Why is it they don't want to have children with their men?

In America, half of the states have more deaths that births among whites. Number one cause of death is drugs, as in prescription. I am sure the UK isn't any better, probably alcohol related deaths instead.

The old drivel about IQ and preserving your DNA, please you mean your recessive genes.

Again, i am not race baiting.

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(06-16-2019 11:09 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  
(06-09-2019 11:00 AM)mehdreamer Wrote:  30 years of age difference, her dad died when she was a child
The guy is not even in his best shape..



I know it's off topic but... I really can't stand tattoos on women - I don't think I'd ever marry one with ANY tattoos. And I'm past 40 already so... I'm really limiting my options in this brave new world.

(06-10-2019 04:32 PM)Pinkman Wrote:  Young, virgin with similar SMV (Third world/foreign)
+ Probably will get ruined in time by society/friends/media.
+ Will give you mixed race children.
+ Even if of a similar race, you'd have to live in her country or it won't work.

Exactly - this is important to me. If we are Red Pilled, then following along with societies push to go cappuccino colored so we're easier to be ruled by our (((overlords))) then having kids with someone of another race is unacceptable. Even if the other race is high IQ, like East Asian.

Also, many mixed kids feel they don't belong anywhere, and of course this is true. They would belong in a cappuccino favela-Hell society (Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi's wet-dream) but we know better (or should)

If you are from the West and marry and kid up with a SEA or an African, or some retarded Latin American... you are really dumbing down and doing your DNA a huge disservice.

I've met several very sweet girls in Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines who were good women, some of them virgins (not anymore, heh) and they would have wifed me easily and were 20 years younger than me. All sounds good but I'm not marrying a Filipina, no way.

This is not race baiting; this is cold, hard reality for Western men.

I'd ideally choose someone of my own nation but obviously that's (i) very hard to find an attractive woman at all (ii) one who could handle a larger age gap (iii) one who wouldn't divorce rape me anyway.

So options include another European country. Staying European seems permissible, it's happened a lot in history and we are a mixed bunch anyway, though all Anglo. We share the same sort of culture and values, and often the same language systems.

Much as EE women are purportedly hot, they carry a stigma about them as being lower value and whoreish.

Russian... never dated one. I have much admiration for their culture and country but they are very different to us. Also, I can't recall seeing any women over 30 from Russia who were attractive to me? Early 20s sure but... as someone already over 40, I'd be looking at around 30s for wifing and kidding up. Pop out 4 or 5 before she's 35. It's all a bit of a rush I must say!

Unlikely to happen probably ... sorry ancestors from hundreds of thousands of years ago....

Cat lady


The take-home message from posts like this is that guys like Sandstorm are going to talk themselves right out of the gene pool. This guy spent several hundred words talking about why he can't have kids with anyone except a unicorn basically, meanwhile plenty of other white guys (and every other race of guy) are out there actually reproducing and handling business.

I mean, whatever floats your boat man but posts like that are completely ludicrous and not fooling anybody.

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On my recent podcast with doc holliday, he and I discussed western men moving to other countries to reproduce. Some of these were men that were previously married to Western women and when I heard they were married, I literally asked "how could you get married again?" Turns out they married Asian women. They are well known on the forum.

I said this on the podcast, and paraphrasing "The understanding their new wives had of them, (and resulting value) surpassed any cultural calibration these guys would have enjoyed with their own white western women."

I say good luck to the poor western guys that are trying to preserve their gene pool. It's a futile attempt as they continue to lose their women to a far left SJW liberal culture. Now to add on top of that, there's gender reassignment too.

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(06-17-2019 04:58 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  
(06-16-2019 11:09 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  This is not race baiting; this is cold, hard reality for Western men.

I'd ideally choose someone of my own nation but obviously that's (i) very hard to find an attractive woman at all (ii) one who could handle a larger age gap (iii) one who wouldn't divorce rape me anyway.

So options include another European country. Staying European seems permissible, it's happened a lot in history and we are a mixed bunch anyway, though all Anglo. We share the same sort of culture and values, and often the same language systems.

Much as EE women are purportedly hot, they carry a stigma about them as being lower value and whoreish.

Russian... never dated one. I have much admiration for their culture and country but they are very different to us. Also, I can't recall seeing any women over 30 from Russia who were attractive to me? Early 20s sure but... as someone already over 40, I'd be looking at around 30s for wifing and kidding up. Pop out 4 or 5 before she's 35. It's all a bit of a rush I must say!

Unlikely to happen probably ... sorry ancestors from hundreds of thousands of years ago....

Cat lady

The cold heart truth, is that Europeans aren't even close to replacement levels when it comes to having kids. Before, you look at other women - I suggest you look at your own Anglo women. Why is it they don't want to have children with their men?

In America, half of the states have more deaths that births among whites. Number one cause of death is drugs, as in prescription. I am sure the UK isn't any better, probably alcohol related deaths instead.

The old drivel about IQ and preserving your DNA, please you mean your recessive genes.

Again, i am not race baiting.

Are you implying that the low birth rates in Western countries are due to Western men being deficient partners? That if we just 'man up', to use that condescending feminist phrase, Anglo women will fall into line and become enthusiastic wives and mothers?

Western women aren't keen on having children full stop, it's not like they're suddenly having huge numbers of mixed race children with superior foreign men (this is still statistically uncommon).

The causes of low birth rates in the West are manifold: obesity, feminism, corporate influences, decline of traditional religion and culture, etc. No one man can solve this issue (the best he can do is try to instill his children with decent values, and to avoid behaviours - e.g. giving women social media attention - that make the situation worse). It's far more realistic for an individual man to 'look at other women' than it is to lead a socio-cultural revolution capable of overturning all of the increasingly entrenched norms and beliefs that have dominated Western culture for the past seven decades.
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If you marry interracially and choose to live in a foreign land then odds are your lineage is going to become a tiny spot in a foreign family tree.

If you marry interracially and choose to remain in your native lands then odds are it's your wife's lineage that's going to become a tiny spot in a local family tree.

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The fact that I am 43, gainfully employed, divorced , childless and have no incentive to reproduce in the United States despite being raised in a two parent household is an indictment of our culture . I have no incentive, NONE, to marry - let alone have children- with a woman in the west. I am planning my exit solely to reproduce, these women in the US are not only toxic they are completely oblivious to their toxicity. I have interracial sex because it is easy and I have very few same race options when you take into account age, obesity and single motherhood. I know we rag on feminism but society has to change or the men who produce, ME, are out. The red pill is mainstream, the Washington Post even had an article today about how feminism has FAILED. I bang women young enough to be my daughter when instead I should have a daughter. Every American woman I have sex with is miserable, on drugs (prescription or otherwise) , and unbearable. Literally, America must change or it will lose its standing in the world as the dominant superpower. Maybe Gen Z can turn it around, I know I am not going to hold my breath.

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(06-17-2019 08:38 PM)Ouroboros Wrote:  
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(06-16-2019 11:09 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  This is not race baiting; this is cold, hard reality for Western men.

I'd ideally choose someone of my own nation but obviously that's (i) very hard to find an attractive woman at all (ii) one who could handle a larger age gap (iii) one who wouldn't divorce rape me anyway.

So options include another European country. Staying European seems permissible, it's happened a lot in history and we are a mixed bunch anyway, though all Anglo. We share the same sort of culture and values, and often the same language systems.

Much as EE women are purportedly hot, they carry a stigma about them as being lower value and whoreish.

Russian... never dated one. I have much admiration for their culture and country but they are very different to us. Also, I can't recall seeing any women over 30 from Russia who were attractive to me? Early 20s sure but... as someone already over 40, I'd be looking at around 30s for wifing and kidding up. Pop out 4 or 5 before she's 35. It's all a bit of a rush I must say!

Unlikely to happen probably ... sorry ancestors from hundreds of thousands of years ago....

Cat lady

The cold heart truth, is that Europeans aren't even close to replacement levels when it comes to having kids. Before, you look at other women - I suggest you look at your own Anglo women. Why is it they don't want to have children with their men?

In America, half of the states have more deaths that births among whites. Number one cause of death is drugs, as in prescription. I am sure the UK isn't any better, probably alcohol related deaths instead.

The old drivel about IQ and preserving your DNA, please you mean your recessive genes.

Again, i am not race baiting.

Are you implying that the low birth rates in Western countries are due to Western men being deficient partners? That if we just 'man up', to use that condescending feminist phrase, Anglo women will fall into line and become enthusiastic wives and mothers?

Western women aren't keen on having children full stop, it's not like they're suddenly having huge numbers of mixed race children with superior foreign men (this is still statistically uncommon).

The causes of low birth rates in the West are manifold: obesity, feminism, corporate influences, decline of traditional religion and culture, etc. No one man can solve this issue (the best he can do is try to instill his children with decent values, and to avoid behaviours - e.g. giving women social media attention - that make the situation worse). It's far more realistic for an individual man to 'look at other women' than it is to lead a socio-cultural revolution capable of overturning all of the increasingly entrenched norms and beliefs that have dominated Western culture for the past seven decades.

I didnt say anything about the men, I said Anglo women.

The numbers for mixed race children are growing rapidly in countries like Canada and the UK.

They say women in society are a reflection of the men.

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I'm 44 and in the best shape of my life. I look better than 99% of men my age (thanks to this forum) and I'm done with women in the US.

I spent some of 2017 in Thailand and a portion of 2018 in Cambodia. In spite of the language barriers, the pure femininity, kindness, understanding, and playfullness of SEA women have me hooked. I'm talking about successful women, business owners, high level students.

I leave for Vietnam the first of September and don't plan to return this time.

I want to have children, but I'm simply not finding what I want in the US. I'm in a large Midwest city and am sickened by the culture. This is a RED state and I see more homo flags flying on porches than anything else.

I understand the thought of having children within my race, but I'd much rather have a girl that checks all of the important boxes.
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A white western Christian conservative who wants children who look like his grandparents should look for a wife in South Africa. The Anglos there aren’t as toxic as in the British white commonwealth or USA but the Afrikaner Protestants have a similar non conformist frontier Christianity as Americans.

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(06-18-2019 12:13 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  The fact that I am 43, gainfully employed, divorced , childless and have no incentive to reproduce in the United States despite being raised in a two parent household is an indictment of our culture . I have no incentive, NONE, to marry - let alone have children- with a woman in the west. I am planning my exit solely to reproduce, these women in the US are not only toxic they are completely oblivious to their toxicity. I have interracial sex because it is easy and I have very few same race options when you take into account age, obesity and single motherhood. I know we rag on feminism but society has to change or the men who produce, ME, are out. The red pill is mainstream, the Washington Post even had an article today about how feminism has FAILED. I bang women young enough to be my daughter when instead I should have a daughter. Every American woman I have sex with is miserable, on drugs (prescription or otherwise) , and unbearable. Literally, America must change or it will lose its standing in the world as the dominant superpower. Maybe Gen Z can turn it around, I know I am not going to hold my breath.

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Preach...I feel the same way. Along with being miserable, on drugs, and unbearable...you also have to add how most American women rather deal with dudes of low value who aren't about anything yet complain about them well into their old age. Too many American women live by this quote that is by Cher.

“A girl can wait for the right man to come along but in the meantime that doesn't mean she can't have a wonderful time with all the wrong ones”

― Cher


I'm like ok...I'll give a woman that for her high school and MAYBE college years, but after that...she needs to get it together. It's like they hold on to this well in to their 40's and 50's and that's what is messing them up. The aren't even having a wonderful time with the wrong ones. They are miserable. These type stay talking about they are independent and they don't need no man, yet there are always up underneath one. You also have ones like that who say they want a good man. Yeah..whatever...they wouldn't know a good man if he slapped them in the face. On second thought, that's what a good man might need to do since abuse(whether it be mental or physical) is only what they seem to respond to and like.

I'm in early 30's and I use to be in the whole American dream white picket fence with 2.5 kids stuff with an American women, but I'm not so sure now. It's like I think I just want to stack money, have fun with different women, and not be tied down so I can have an everlasting piece of mind. I know I'm not 40 yet, but this thread and has definitely given me some perspective. If I do settle, It won't be no time soon and I don't think it will be in America.
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Wheres the link to the washington post article that says feminism failed?
06-18-2019 05:38 PM
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Washington Examiner-my error, here is the article below.

The future of men and marriage is bleak
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With Father's Day upon us, the time has come to address as a nation what Heather Mac Donald noted earlier this year is "the greatest social catastrophe of our time": fatherlessness. Fatherlessness is the No. 1 cause of nearly all social ills we face. We can't afford to ignore it any longer.

To be clear, father absence is the more accurate term, since fatherlessness implies that men have become "deadbeat dads" — nothing could be further from the truth. Sure, this faction exists, as do "deadbeat moms." But the two most significant threats to a father's presence in the home are divorce and out-of-wedlock births.

It's the breakdown of marriage, in other words, or the collapse of the family, that results in father-absent homes. Whether you feel its pain directly or not, it affects you. "Families are the building blocks of civilization," writes Genevieve Wood at the Daily Signal. "They are personal relationships, but they greatly shape and serve the public good. Family breakdown harms society as a whole."


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Indeed it does. And how, exactly, did the family fall apart? When we stopped valuing men and marriage.

There was a time, believe it or not, when marriage was highly valued. Ergo, the majority of Americans married. They even looked forward to it! It was an honorable mark of adulthood to leave one's family of origin and build a family of one's own.

Then came feminism. "And with it," notes Dennis Prager in his "Fireside Chat" on marriage and children vs. career, "the notion that 'a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.'"

This mantra was glamorized (though not coined) by Gloria Steinem in the 1970s and was quickly inculcated both in Prager's generation and those that followed. Prager rightly defines America's new narrative, which is directed specifically to women: "You don't need a man; you need a career. Then you'll be happy."

Since this narrative first took hold, America has undergone a sea change with respect to men and marriage. Marriage began to be viewed not as a given but as a possible accompaniment to a woman's otherwise more important and exciting independent life — and men went along for the ride. What choice did they have? Then, sometime later, America upped the ante with a full-scale war on men and, more recently, with an attack on men's very nature.

Men and boys have heard this message loud and clear, and as a result have stepped back or stopped trying. Boys are failing to grow up and make something of themselves because they lack fathers who can help them do just that. They lack fathers because America has made it clear that men are superfluous and even dangerous to women and children.

As a result, half of America's citizens have been marginalized, as evidenced by the meteoric rise of Jordan Peterson, who never set out to become a voice for men but inadvertently kicked over a hornet's nest. The sheer number of males who cling to Peterson's words of hope is staggering. He has become a lifeline to a lost generation of men.

That's really what we're up against this Father's Day: a lost generation of men. But it will be our loss in the end. We can't afford for men to retreat any further than they have. The nuclear family is the foundation of America's greatness; and a dearth of productive men invariably means, as Tucker Carlson noted in January, the subsequent disintegration of marriage.

These two cannot be separated. Women don't want to marry unemployed men or men who have no purpose. But women do want children and will go to great lengths to have them in unconventional ways. Thus, children (boys especially, since girls will still have their mothers) will remain fatherless, and the cycle will continue.

It is time for people to say "Enough!" We cannot survive as a nation without strong and competent men raising strong and competent boys who become the kind of men that women want to marry.

We know those in power will do nothing about it; they've already proven it in spades. "The elites are absolutely unwilling to send the message that fathers are as important to their children as mothers," Mac Donald told Carlson. "Their tongues are tied — they refuse to say it. It's one of those truths that's being completely denied by elite culture. Why? Because it violates the feminist nostrum that women can do it all."

And there it is.

It has been 50 years since feminists first began to make the claim that women don't need men, and by every statistical measure we are worse off because of it. How much longer are we willing to stay silent?

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Good article, but links make it better.

Unfortunately articles like these are buried in 2nd or 3rd tier rags and pieces about the benefits of women cheating and the constant sturm and drang over toxic masculinity are in in the 1st tier MSM.

There has been such a generational upheaval that I'm not sure this can be corrected. The genders have been placed in opposition to each other. Straight (white) men have been framed as monolithic oppressors and we don't stand as a united front to change that frame, fractured as we are by soyboy/whiteknights (who are complicit) and different feuding clans of red-pill.

Personally, I'm glad I already did the family thing, broken as it was by an early divorce and having to raise my daughter alone. I can tick that box off my bucket list, which leaves me in the uncertain state of trying to figure out how to get consistently laid by women young enough to not be busted by the wall. I know that's against the charter of the group, but I do represent a sizeable demographic chunk who are looking for answers in today's sexual marketplace. Without the need to have kids, marriage is really just a liability to an older man. I'm not against commitment, just the kind that could unfairly award cash and prizes if we break up.

So when I read the topic header, that's how I interpret it. The dangers of settling down to a man who already has kids from a prior relationship and has no interest in starting over again.
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