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The masculine voices/behavior of American women is what really annoys and turns me off. Drinking culture and overall slut.

Customer service is the only good thing about American women. And sometimes they can be decent friends.
10-01-2019 08:32 PM
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Just look at a Steve Harvey show.. it's crazy. ugly landwhales feeling entitled to date traders and businessmen.. unbelievable. not to mention obesity. the only obese people I spot in Paris, I know for sure they are Americans.

7, 8 and 9 ? they feel like a unicorn in this land of desolation and will act according to this.

for me, Americans, French and Italian women are the worst nationalities in terme of dating. don't bother.
10-03-2019 04:16 AM
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RE: Are American Women Really That Bad?
(09-28-2019 03:39 PM)louiebeans Wrote:  I just started using Tinder and a few foreign dating apps to pipeline and see what the markets are like. The Thai girls I chat with all engage in conversation with me, tell me they think I look good, and can't wait to meet me when I come. Sure some may just want my money but some of these girls text me everyday saying good morning, sending emojis, and generally wanting to know more about me.

Thailand is a 3rd world country without welfare. Anyone who isn't in the upper class will never rise above $500 a month unless they put in serious effort as a street food seller or w/e and even then there are tons of predators leaning on them wanting a cut. Trying to make it in a 3rd world country without connections is 100x harder than in a western country and you will have to beta yourself so hard you will feel like a ladyboy.

Being nice to dozens of western chumps and acting like their long distance GF, putting out if they have to when they come around once or twice a year beats working 6 days a week under an abusive boss (higher status thais generally have abusive mentalities) while making a fraction what they can extract out of low status western betas.

$100 sick buffalo money or for her "studies" from 10 guys a month is already $1000 which is what connected grads from the best unis can expect but certainly not a random lower class girl.

If you look in the reddit Philippines sub you see that most grads there make $300 a month or so, which I wouldn't even know how to survive of. It's a no brainer for them to rope in western betas, but for them it's harder because nobody actually wants to go there because Thailand is reasonably livable unlike their overpriced poverty slum country.

Women will only be nice to you if they can get someone out of you and I can assure you these nice 3rd world women are much more likely to be vile abusive demons to any guy lower status than them if they fear no repercussions.
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I worked with some postmen in a factory in Aberdeen, Scotland.
3 out of 6 guys on our set of frames (total losers) had a girl in Thailand that they sent money to every month. Saved up all their holiday to spend 3 weeks with them once a year.
Its all they talked about every cold 4am-start shitty morning.

Thailand is great for a visit and Great whilst the veil of romantic illusion holds.

I actually like Thai Culture - although its hard to get any experience of it as a Farang/

Those women are absolute bitches when the money >or just appearance of affluence or future gib-me-dats< dries up. Brutal.

But fun is to be had.. that's for sure.

(10-03-2019 06:21 AM)SomeOneSomeWhere Wrote:  [quote='louiebeans' pid='2024596' dateline='1569703168']

$100 sick buffalo money or for her "studies" from 10 guys a month is already $1000 which is what connected grads from the best unis can expect but certainly not a random lower class girl.


Women will only be nice to you if they can get someone out of you and I can assure you these nice 3rd world women are much more likely to be vile abusive demons to any guy lower status than them if they fear no repercussions.

Ah, the sick buffalo.

You see it on Tourist T shirts - "Mai Pen Rai Means.. Nevermind"

Mai Pen Rai the Thailand Tourist catchphrase meaning -- Its not a problem.

Some wags wear T shirts declaring "Mai Pen Kwai Means..."
^ with its implied message for those who know:

Kwai - Water Buffalo

My family water buffalo suffers from "Mai Pen Kwai" disease. ("I am not a water buffalo" disease.)

So the T shirts imply..

"Mai Pen Kwai Means..." (There is No Water Buffalo.. There Never Was).
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(10-03-2019 04:16 AM)dasDude Wrote:  for me, Americans, French and Italian women are the worst nationalities in terme of dating. don't bother.

What specifically do you dislike about French women? As an American, I would take them 10 times out of 10. On average in far better shape and very pleasant personalities. Literally had zero flakes the entire time I spent in France. Though I can imagine the cigarette smoking and widely accepted infidelity is a turn off...
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Idly swiping thru tinder in Paris it was pretty amazing how many girls there had pictures of them smoking. Or multiple pictures. They've literally got no shame about it.

Europe is kinda tricky. On the one hand, you've got lifestyle habits that help you stay thin, like smoking, which is good for a young girl, but the smoking and drinking and all the holidays in the bright sun of Marseille, well, that'll age you pretty rapidly.
10-04-2019 12:25 AM
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(10-04-2019 12:25 AM)Eazy_E Wrote:  Idly swiping thru tinder in Paris it was pretty amazing how many girls there had pictures of them smoking. Or multiple pictures. They've literally got no shame about it.

Europe is kinda tricky. On the one hand, you've got lifestyle habits that help you stay thin, like smoking, which is good for a young girl, but the smoking and drinking and all the holidays in the bright sun of Marseille, well, that'll age you pretty rapidly.

On Tinder, you will met lesser quality of girls...of course many will post pics of them smoking & drinking...

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The ones walking around on the street weren't exactly shy about smoking or in small numbers either.
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I grew up in Toronto, which is North American, I suppose. My high school buddies ended up marrying first or second generation immigrant women: Portuguese, Brazilian, Mexican, Hong Kong. I'm not exactly sure what that says about the home-grown WASPy types that we call "American women".
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(10-03-2019 06:21 AM)SomeOneSomeWhere Wrote:  
(09-28-2019 03:39 PM)louiebeans Wrote:  I just started using Tinder and a few foreign dating apps to pipeline and see what the markets are like. The Thai girls I chat with all engage in conversation with me, tell me they think I look good, and can't wait to meet me when I come. Sure some may just want my money but some of these girls text me everyday saying good morning, sending emojis, and generally wanting to know more about me.

Thailand is a 3rd world country without welfare. Anyone who isn't in the upper class will never rise above $500 a month unless they put in serious effort as a street food seller or w/e and even then there are tons of predators leaning on them wanting a cut. Trying to make it in a 3rd world country without connections is 100x harder than in a western country and you will have to beta yourself so hard you will feel like a ladyboy.

Being nice to dozens of western chumps and acting like their long distance GF, putting out if they have to when they come around once or twice a year beats working 6 days a week under an abusive boss (higher status thais generally have abusive mentalities) while making a fraction what they can extract out of low status western betas.

$100 sick buffalo money or for her "studies" from 10 guys a month is already $1000 which is what connected grads from the best unis can expect but certainly not a random lower class girl.

If you look in the reddit Philippines sub you see that most grads there make $300 a month or so, which I wouldn't even know how to survive of. It's a no brainer for them to rope in western betas, but for them it's harder because nobody actually wants to go there because Thailand is reasonably livable unlike their overpriced poverty slum country.

Women will only be nice to you if they can get someone out of you and I can assure you these nice 3rd world women are much more likely to be vile abusive demons to any guy lower status than them if they fear no repercussions.


I'm impressed, asiaballer made it 9 whole posts before going off on the vile turdworlders.
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Sexuality is consistent across all cultures and countries. The software might be different but the hardware's the same.

Thinking that a traditional woman 'untainted by degenerate western morals' is somehow any different than the spoiled western women men are trying to avoid is foolhardy.

Women act as badly as the culture lets them. She might be a traditional wife for a few years but how long before she gets westernized?



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(10-01-2019 01:41 PM)bk19xsa Wrote:  Sometimes on bumble I go through profiles of American girls linked with Instagram that really baffle me.

I saw an Asian-American 8.5, 5'8 from Harvard and now an associate at BCG.
What surprised me were the thong bikini pics with ass zoomed in. I went through her LinkedIn. She had done a Harvard BA in Neurobiology and Economics and she just started working for BCG this year.

Another one, I saw, was even more surprising. She is a Colombian-American 7 and she does Digital Forsenics at EY. This girl only had slutty pics on her profile. By slutty, I mean, string bikinis at big pool parties, no bra pics with nipple pokes visible under a white shirt in some tropical location, injected lips, wearing evening tops that are designed to let your lower and upper boob out and bending down purposely to show butt at some club. I went through her LinkedIn and saw that she had gone to a Southern Chrisitan University and done Bachelors of Business Admin in Information Systems and Finance. She had also done basic Microsoft Office certifications.

The BCG chick is probably earning around 120k while the EY chick is earning 85k. Both right after college.

I know how hard it is to get into BCG and EY. During my MBA, guys with strong background ie. impressive 5 year Fortune 200  experience, real good undergrad with strong GPA and strong GMAT, had to network their ass off just to land an interview at these firms. Moreover, they did case interview studies 6 months before the start of MBA and then did 100s of case preps during MBA. Those very few who passed 3-4 rounds of tough interviews were selected.

None of these guys were travelling or instawhoring themsleves before or during MBA. In fact, most of them didn't have a social life except within the MBA. They had to put the time and efforts in.

Plus, none of them would be caught dead showing any pics of theirs on social media in comprimising situations such as being in a raver or a drunk party pic. Those who even had, removed the pics from their profile or kept them very private. The reason is that employers screen through candidate's social media and these firms supposedly want sober, decent, intelligent and hard working people who are not prone to a decadent lifestyle.

This is what I saw and experienced during my MBA but now after seeing these chicks' profile, I have no idea how the fuck do they manage to get such lucrative careers or have such perfect lives where they can instawhore, travel, party and still nab and perform at such high demanding careers.

On the other hand, I, with good International experience and an MBA from a top university, am jobless,  preparing day in night out and struggling to get a foot in firms which are even one-two levels below BCG etc. It's not that even my IQ is less and I am pretty sure it's higher than these thots'. I even have a 99th percentile GMAT score.

It also shows that the whole American work system hiring has become bad. These top consulting or accounting firms with their stupid sjw policies are giving thots an easy ride where as the hardworking men who want to seriously work, make a good career and support a family in the future get to do lower jobs than such thots or even remain unemployed.

So when I see profiles like these, I  either can laugh and double down on my efforts or can just say 'fuck this gay earth'.

You're a young man so I'll chock it off to inexperience, but girls like the ones you've described have a social intelligence that would knock your fucking socks off. These chicks are not only attractive and intelligent, but socially adept. At the corporate level the only women that really get jobs because of their looks are sales people. That said, if you are a hiring manager at BCG and your choice is a female 8.5 and male 6 all things being equal most hiring managers would go with the broad. This shouldn't be that confusing to you.

In defense of these chicks, being bright and accomplished doesn't necessarily mean you have be reserved. A lot of men get in trouble for trying to make these chicks something they aren't. They are smart, attractive and like to party. Treat them as such. Don't take them for fondue on a date take them to the pool and bring a bottle of champagne and a joint or blunt.

Men like to deny the nature of women. It doesn't matter what country she's from it just matters what options she has. This is why so many men 3rd world wives divorce their american husbands once they've got the lay of the land in the states. You still have to be a man, you still have to be above average to get above average results. Just ask yourself, why would an 8, 9 or 10 want you? What do you have to offer? Genetics, money, social ranking, humor, creativity a combination??
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(10-03-2019 11:35 PM)RDF Wrote:  
(10-03-2019 04:16 AM)dasDude Wrote:  for me, Americans, French and Italian women are the worst nationalities in terme of dating. don't bother.

What specifically do you dislike about French women? As an American, I would take them 10 times out of 10. On average in far better shape and very pleasant personalities. Literally had zero flakes the entire time I spent in France. Though I can imagine the cigarette smoking and widely accepted infidelity is a turn off...

They are very promiscious, have male "friends", go out with them, have plenty of orbiters, are very hard to decode (they can smile, be fun, flirty with you, give you the number .; then never answer to you again).. they are hot for sure, but ultra hard to seduce, feminists, flaky. They are "ultra cat", just a hello can scare them.

The market for eastern women is booming here, lot of good/honest/valuable men are looking for relationships with those foreign women. lot of engineers tired of the local bullshit and low quality of those who "allow" them to seduce them. Even if they must learn a new language and go through an administrative hell to bring them.. and by the way, 50% of people in Paris are single, live alone in their egotic shity little "studio".

I'm not surprise you're American, they are crazy about them (Aussies too).. and very picky in term of look. you hear plenty of women here talking about a guy who is "trop mignon" (very cute) .. and they are fucking over 35. they can't live outside of "seduction" and settle for a normal life with a decent guy, they crave complication and suffering, cause they want to feel like a heroine from a "nouvelle vague" movie.

if you're a tall black, a latino, an Aussie, you'll do good here. Brown guys like me (I'm from Morocco) worth shit in their eyes. Though I'm engineer, 6'1, athletic, swimmer, horse rider, solid sense of humor and speak 4 languages, I've never been able to date or have sex with one of them. I had LTR with girls from different nationalities though (Czech republic, Algeria, Morocco, Russia, Colombia..). French women are just a pain in the ass.
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^ Thank you for that perspective. This part jumped out to me the most.

(10-04-2019 09:18 AM)dasDude Wrote:  I'm not surprise you're American, they are crazy about them (Aussies too).. and very picky in term of look. you hear plenty of women here talking about a guy who is "trop mignon" (very cute) .. and they are fucking over 35. they can't live outside of "seduction" and settle for a normal life with a decent guy, they crave complication and suffering, cause they want to feel like a heroine from a "nouvelle vague" movie.

I noticed this as well. I actually thought it was kind of adorable (in a twisted sort of way) but can absolutely imagine it gets annoying as hell. I've already gotten a bit tired of it in my follow-ups.

What do you think of the Moroccan/Tunisian girls that live in France, though have pretty much assimilated into the culture... basically the same thing?
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It's one thing to be rejected by American women in person but it's another to hear them say out loud:
Yooooooooooo he eesss laaaaaaahhhhke thee best bounsurrr y'aaaaahhhlllllllll

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I have been back in the US for the past few months and I have actually met a few wonderful ladies that would be wife material. You just have to avoid big city girls (basically any girl who has grown up in a big city). Like I am in New York right now and I try to go on dates with girls who have come from small cities.
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(05-07-2019 09:28 AM)nomadiam Wrote:  I'm 44, i've been living outside the US for ten years. I've lived and traveled throughout Latin America. I've dated many latin woman during this period. I've had some great experiences and some relationships that were fun while they lasted.

But, as I reflect back on my adult life with sincerity, the conclusion i've come to is that of all my relationships and girls in my life the one that i had the strongest connection with and the most intimate bond was my american girlfriend, who i dated for five years prior to my leaving the U.S. I broke up with her primarily because i didn't feel ready to settle down and get married which is what she wanted.

Somewhere along the way, perhaps in part to reading forums like this one and hanging out with different expats, i developed a strong impression that American woman are these hideous creatures not worthy of our time or affection.

But as i reflect on my life i can't say that i've personally experienced anything that horrible related to american woman. The relationships i had were pretty positive experiences overall, although i've never been married so I don't have that reference point.

As I look at my American friend's lives on facebook and up close in many cases, to be honest, most of them seem pretty happy as far as I can tell. I do have one friend that was fucked over pretty badly by the divorce court system, but he's the exception to most of the friends i have. Most of my friends are either in relationships or married and truthfully, they seem pretty content with their lives, equally or not more so than most of my expat friends.

So, the question I present to you, is Are American Woman Really That Bad? Is it possible that some of the hate towards american woman in the manosphere has been overblown or perhaps only applies to a certain percentage of American Woman and not necessarily the majority. I'm completely open to your perspective and opinion, good or bad.

Note: Living abroad, I haven't dated an american woman in over a decade but i'm thinking about taking the plunge again, which is why i'm bringing up the topic.

Just look at obesity rates. In any culture the top 10% of girls with the bottom 90. But in the US the bottom 90 might all be fat. So the reasonably attractive (not hot) ones are only so because theyre not hambeasts. While in ukraine or colombia or wherever its a different dynamic. So, yes.
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(05-07-2019 10:10 AM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  I find many of my friends wives to be:
- overweight
- bossy
- entitled
- think they are super moms for having 1.3 kids
- overly political
- more sarcastic than sweet
- drink too much
- moralistic without having actual morals

I agree with the comment that there has been a big change in women over the last 20 years. The hotness of some of these 22 year olds today is impressive, but the lack of femininity, the crass sense of humour, tattoos everywhere, the materialism.

*Note I am Canadian, similar culture but not exactly the same.

So mostly like their men. Women in large part reflect their men.
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(10-07-2019 11:15 PM)Scotty! Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 10:10 AM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  I find many of my friends wives to be:
- overweight
- bossy
- entitled
- think they are super moms for having 1.3 kids
- overly political
- more sarcastic than sweet
- drink too much
- moralistic without having actual morals

I agree with the comment that there has been a big change in women over the last 20 years. The hotness of some of these 22 year olds today is impressive, but the lack of femininity, the crass sense of humour, tattoos everywhere, the materialism.

*Note I am Canadian, similar culture but not exactly the same.

So mostly like their men. Women in large part reflect their men.

Exactly. People complain about women all the time, but let's be real, most men in America are weak scrubs.
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Which came first though? Are the women bad because the men are weak scrubs or did the men give up and become weak scrubs because the women are bad?
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Eazy_E is right, it’s a classic chicken or egg problem. Playing the blame game is zero-sum as you quickly see both parties are to blame.

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I did three months touring through the American south about ten years ago, and had a great time. American girls seemed very friendly and open compared to Oz. Lack of cynicism to them i found, didnt have the ball-breaking culture that they do back home, where they just want to shoot you down in front of the gals for their self esteem half the time. I guess a lot's changed in the last ten years, but i cant see that the smaller towns would have felt it too much. I loved the place tbh.
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The South isn't the north, which isn't the West, which isn't the Northeast which isn't the Northwest. People in general in the South are nicer, more open, neighbourly, you'd call them. People in the Northeast, not so much. Really it depends. I'd say the least bad American women will come from the South or from small towns, but there's other issues then, like incessant gossiping that forms the cornerstone of southern culture.
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The only place where I knew it was normal for a girl to sleep with 100 guys in her mid-20's was in the USA.

You're 44. You have not experienced the millennial generation mate.

I tell my parents stories of what I see girls do and they're disgusted...and they grew up in the '80s.

Have you thought about Eastern Europe?
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