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(05-17-2019 02:30 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  I don't like it when people tell others what "normal" people should be doing at any age.

Here we are, grown men, posting about a teenage girl on a forum. Is this normal? Why aren't we all married raising kids? Where are our wives? Why do I keep having to make this same comment over and over?

Let's not be hypocrites. She's an outlier; so are most of us. If her folks aren't pulling strings, then I have no problem with what she does. Here is why.

1). I was idiosyncratic as hell when I was 13. My parents demanded I be "normal" and banned me from things I loved and was good at. It took me till about age 35 to recover. Everyone else leapfrogged past me in my field because they were supported, not called abnormal.

Adults should not ban kids from things because it doesn't fit into some narrow concept of conformity. My normal might be your insane. Her normal might just be an obsession with politics -- which she is indulging.

From what I read, people like Mary Matalin and James Carville were into politics like their high school classmates were into rock stars. Maybe this girl is the same way. Some people are natural readers and/or commentators.

2). If we're going to direct anger at teenage girls, it should be refocused to Instagram where there are lots of them screaming about the Alabama abortion law and "My body my choice" while showing their bare butts.

It's these girls who have the demeanor and cynicism of 40-year-old divorcees. And in my opinion, it's these girls who are going to bring a world of trouble to the world when they hit adulthood.

In the age of social media, most teenage girls are going to put themselves out there in some way. But if I were the parent of one, I'd be much happier to have Soph as my kid than the Junior Insta-Thots my friends are raising.

For me, its not a concern that she's abnormal, its a concern that she's 14 and walking into a battlefield. She is making videos, on the internet, challenging Globohomo and getting a lot attention.

Teenagers, especially girls, are mentally fragile. If the horde of degenerates piles on her online or maybe even in person at a Roosh level, or a Tommy Robinson level how is she going to handle it? Teenagers suicide over dumb stuff, this girl's passion will bring her into a conflict that breaks adults. That is where my concern comes from.

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I've been watching her videos and I have to say that she is genuinely hilarious.

Straight up genius.

Here's another video where she tells a little of her backstory





Another video of her almost two years ago making fun of Youtube's rules



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If she wrote this at 14, I am extremely impressed. You can tell she is smart by listening to her. I would like to believe that a new generation of warriors like this is arising. The behaviors of the garbage boomer generation is so easy to ridicule and lampoon by an aware generation. Fuck you baby boomer garbage infested faggots. You said to never trust anyone over thirty, and that means you.

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(05-16-2019 11:52 PM)911 Wrote:  Some of us don't feel the need to justify every sentence we write to the average person, and thankfully, that feeling is shared among many Gen Zs...

I guess we aren't proper zealots of the church of Holocaustianity. What do you reckon is the punishment for this ignominious heresy, Delta?

Feel free to challenge the mainstream Holocaust story. In fact, I'm glad there are people out there like you who don't just accept everything they're told as indisputable fact, regardless of whether I agree with any individual conclusion.

You're also free to go around saying "Gen Zyklon," just know that it makes you look like a total ass and serves no constructive purpose whatsoever. This is beyond self-evident. I'd rather not have to be associated with the terminology of autistic lunatics who can't get along with anyone outside their little internet echo chamber, but with free speech, one has to take the bad with the good. This is the last I'll say about it to avoid derailing the thread. You do you man, just don't expect anyone to respect you for sounding like a prick.
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Was going to put a post up about her the other day, but figured someone else would do it. She's gone over a million subs after the article about her.

I like the sweet little thing. Her hardened cynical heart is in the right place.

But a few others have taken the words out of my mouth: The loss of innocence is astounding here.

Hearing her talk about 'queefs' and 'clams' when referring to the vagina. Of her referencing BDSM practices. Of her using words that you don't even get to hear in hard core porn films...

What happened?

She's a bright girl but there's more to it.

She's also annoying as fuck as only a 14 year old can be with how cock-sure she is about it all. We've all been there. But it wasn't recorded for posterity on the tubes. She'll have to live with this and it won't be pretty. She'll be hated by those she singled out and those who are jealous of her 'success' in the internet age.

I watched with my mouth open at a lot of it. There's a reason why this is so cut-edited so quick. It's such an onslaught of foul verbal filth (from a 14 year old anyway) that you wouldn't get away with it otherwise.

She's being used. But it's too late now. She's all used up but just doesn't realise it yet.

Her childhood is already over.

She is like the perfect robo-virtual-narrative of every single red-pill meme in existence. It's just all so fucking contrived. Maybe she does spend all her hours ironically browsing the chans, but still...

One question and one question only came in to my head as my mouth was agape at what I was hearing (her political acuity combined with 'potty mouth') - just what in the living fuck are her parents doing allowing her to do this?

Her parents are culpable. She joked about her 'haters' saying she should be taken away by child protection services and away from her parents, but even though I like the kid a lot, I think maybe she should be taken away and put in to a good home where some fucking parent 'types' will protect her and look after her. You know, like parents are supposed to do. And her parents failed at.


This is not alright. She will pay for this. If not sooner, then later.

Talking about 'clams' and 'queefs' is catnip to paedos and you wondered why they turned up on your channel when you were dressed up in your little bunny suit?

I don't blame the girl. I like her.

I blame the parents a fuck ton though. They aren't fit to look after a child.

This does not end well for her.

She's very arrogant about it all. She's not even nihilistic. Just terminally naive.

This will not end well for her. She's marked now. Thanks mum, thanks dad.

I wish her well though, she's a good kid. Terrible to see her manipulated like this.

Sometimes it's not abuse that destroys your life. Your parents don't always need to beat you or sexually abuse you. Sometimes they just need to fail to give you the proper due care and attention. This is what has happened in this case.

This kid will end up suffering.

And the parents will get rich.

Sickening.

(I don't care if she is spitting rare memes - I don't need a fucking 14 year old girl to fight my battles for me - she's not a harbinger of better days to come - she's a harbinger of how close we are to the 'doom' of it all that soon awaits us)

May angels protect her...


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(05-17-2019 08:17 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  This will not end well for her.

It feels eerily pedophilic when she talks about sex so casually becaus you know damn well that a huge chunk of her audience gets off on the novelty of that filth coming out of an innocent looking mouth with braces (like this one from two years ago when she was supposedly only 12).

It's like, she can rail against the culture for being so overly sexual and how it's bad for kids, but she's doing it from the vantage point of someone who appears to already have been corrupted by said culture. The hypocrisy is off the charts. If she stands for traditionalism, then she should behave that way instead of trash talking like a beat up whore.

I just can't help feeling like she's reading from a script or is a midget or has some sort of developmental mutation, like she's an idiot savant who is fixated on idiological naval-gazing instead of being an expert pianist or mathematician.

(05-17-2019 08:17 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  he's a harbinger of how close we are to the 'doom' of it all that soon awaits us

I have images of kids with machetes and machine-guns in war-torn Africa who never experienced their childhood. This is sort of the same thing in its own way. A big part of this is the free-for-all aspect of the internet. As soon as a kid is old enough to click a mouse they can expose themselves to beheadings, bukkake, and enough swearing to fill a thousand Tarantino movies. There's no content filtering anymore and we're all the worse because of it. Pink had it easy when all he had was 13 channels of shit on the TV to choose from to drive him over the edge.

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Here's something to warm all of our hearts: The Buzzfeed hit piece that dropped only 4 days ago lamented Soph having "more than 800,000" subscribers. Just like that, she's up to 952,000.

Think about it: Tens of thousands of people were exposed to Soph under the pretense that her content is virulent trash, but ended up deciding they like it regardless of what some hack Buzzfeed journalist tells them to think.

In the marketplace of ideas, ours are winning. Mainstream hit pieces invariably backfire once people decide that our arguments are more convincing than the opposing criticism. They can't stop us with words. Censorship is all they've got.
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The trend lately in society has been for delayed maturity, with people in their 20s still living at home and playing video games. I have heard some comments about 14 being too young and she should enjoy childhood. This is ridiculous. In some societies, 13 was considered the age of adulthood. The human being is biologically capable of this. Caesar Augustus was 18 and still in school when Julius Caesar was assassinated and he had to immediately enter politics and fight for power with his education cut short. Until recently, men would get married in their early 20s. I entered college and was fully independent at 16. So is the trend now reversing? This 14 year old girl is saying adult things. Is the new generation forced to grow up faster. I actually think this would be a positive development. A new generation of shitlords is what it would take to overthrow the SJWs currently entrenched in power. The current "adults" don't have what it takes.

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(05-17-2019 01:33 PM)Barron Wrote:  Why not just say convert to Latter Day Saints?
LDS women are reared to do exactly what you just described. Just don't complain when her cuck husband cheers for more aid to Israel, war with Russia, Iran and so on.

I'm not a big fan of the theology, which is essentially of masonic/luciferian character, but big kudos to LDS for at the very least, living a traditional life, and being for the most part upright citizens and parents.

The thing is, this was normal behavior for the rest of us a half century ago. The fertility rate for Catholic women in the 1960s was around 5.0, among the highest in N. America, and the average fertility rate for all American women back then was close to 4.0.

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The collapse of fertility rates are a product of social engineering, not some consequence of "modernity" or technology, although the pill had some effect, but it was more like the tool than the enabler here.

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(05-18-2019 02:21 AM)Sherman Wrote:  In some societies, 13 was considered the age of adulthood

Funny how people can invoke this because they like her message while simultaneously decrying young cock-carousel riders and the vast Hollywood pedo conspiracy.

And get real. A LOT of her subs are from people who just find her to be an amusing freakshow, sort of like how people followed Tila Tequila's descent into alien and NAZI holocaust cosplay madness or Corey Feldman's teeth falling out while doing Michael Jackson moves with whores. It's exploitive anyway you slice it. Child celebrities in general wind up becoming trainwrecks. Just because she's an ideologue doesn't mean she isn't still getting whipped up in the same sort of child celebrity vortex. It won't end well for her.
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(05-18-2019 10:18 AM)911 Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 01:33 PM)Barron Wrote:  Why not just say convert to Latter Day Saints?
LDS women are reared to do exactly what you just described. Just don't complain when her cuck husband cheers for more aid to Israel, war with Russia, Iran and so on.

I'm not a big fan of the theology, which is essentially of masonic/luciferian character, but big kudos to LDS for at the very least, living a traditional life, and being for the most part upright citizens and parents.

The thing is, this was normal behavior for the rest of us a half century ago. The fertility rate for Catholic women in the 1960s was around 5.0, among the highest in N. America, and the average fertility rate for all American women back then was close to 4.0.

[Image: us-fertility-figure1.gif?w=570&c...;amp;ssl=1]

The collapse of fertility rates are a product of social engineering, not some consequence of "modernity" or technology, although the pill had some effect, but it was more like the tool than the enabler here.




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(05-18-2019 11:28 AM)pitbullowner Wrote:  
(05-18-2019 10:18 AM)911 Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 01:33 PM)Barron Wrote:  Why not just say convert to Latter Day Saints?
LDS women are reared to do exactly what you just described. Just don't complain when her cuck husband cheers for more aid to Israel, war with Russia, Iran and so on.

I'm not a big fan of the theology, which is essentially of masonic/luciferian character, but big kudos to LDS for at the very least, living a traditional life, and being for the most part upright citizens and parents.

The thing is, this was normal behavior for the rest of us a half century ago. The fertility rate for Catholic women in the 1960s was around 5.0, among the highest in N. America, and the average fertility rate for all American women back then was close to 4.0.

[Image: us-fertility-figure1.gif?w=570&c...;amp;ssl=1]

The collapse of fertility rates are a product of social engineering, not some consequence of "modernity" or technology, although the pill had some effect, but it was more like the tool than the enabler here.




I've considered EO Christianity as an alternative myself. It's like Catholicism, minus the Pope and pedophiliaBanana

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She's live right now with RamZPaul:



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Soph meets Dick Masterson.

Good conversation but it is really really weird to hear three grown men sit around talking like they normally talk with each other, only doing it with a 13 year old girl.

It is almost like a novelty act, a talking dog or something.

The normal grownup filter is gone, the one where you always remember you are supposed to set some sort of example for kids. It isn't really normal to talk to kids like that.




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I feel the "grownup filter" no longer exists anymore...because internet. Only those over 40 are bothered by such cultural devolution as it's become the new normal.
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(06-08-2019 06:29 PM)questor70 Wrote:  I feel the "grownup filter" no longer exists anymore...because internet. Only those over 40 are bothered by such cultural devolution as it's become the new normal.

They aren't bothered either, the ones that should know better. It's like we are one big profane peer group daring each other to do something stupid.

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(05-18-2019 02:21 AM)Sherman Wrote:  The trend lately in society has been for delayed maturity, with people in their 20s still living at home and playing video games. I have heard some comments about 14 being too young and she should enjoy childhood. This is ridiculous. In some societies, 13 was considered the age of adulthood. The human being is biologically capable of this. Caesar Augustus was 18 and still in school when Julius Caesar was assassinated and he had to immediately enter politics and fight for power with his education cut short. Until recently, men would get married in their early 20s. I entered college and was fully independent at 16. So is the trend now reversing? This 14 year old girl is saying adult things. Is the new generation forced to grow up faster. I actually think this would be a positive development. A new generation of shitlords is what it would take to overthrow the SJWs currently entrenched in power. The current "adults" don't have what it takes.

The only Western reference I can think of off the top of my head regarding any historical precedent for taking anything a 14 year old girl says seriously was the rise to prominence of Joan of Arc, who supposedly had visions of saints at age 13.

Joan of Arc this little girl aint. You can't invoke "back in the day" without asking yourself "what would those people back in the day think about this..."

I very much doubt the folk of the 50's or earlier would look on this with anything other than confusion or contempt.

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Heavily scripted and she can't even deliver her given lines properly. She reads so fast it all sounds like a run on sentence. Most of you are giving her way too much credit. There's nothing I'm seeing here that is on par with other content creators on the right. I think her age and gender combined with wokeness has impressed people but that'll fade. If she could be half as good as Lauren Southern off script doing live streams she might have a future.
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People say "scripted" like it's a bad thing.

Before the current 3+ hour Youtube marathons where roughly 10 min is memorable, content creators poured most of their efforts into scripts.

So using "scripted" like it's a burn or takes away from the message/delivery/impact is really sad and poorly measured. "Omg, she prepared and has some particular ideas she wants to get across? Not talented, not off-the-cuff enough, must not be truly intelligent."

Soph should be getting MORE credit, not less, for putting the time and effort into scripting her work.
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Maybe I better not post the acronym.

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(06-09-2019 01:35 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  Heavily scripted and she can't even deliver her given lines properly. She reads so fast it all sounds like a run on sentence. Most of you are giving her way too much credit. There's nothing I'm seeing here that is on par with other content creators on the right. I think her age and gender combined with wokeness has impressed people but that'll fade. If she could be half as good as Lauren Southern off script doing live streams she might have a future.

This is a parody post, right? If not, it's the equivalent of "2/10 - pointy elbows, wnb".

That said, what debeguiled said is spot on. It is very odd.

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(06-09-2019 02:38 AM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  People say "scripted" like it's a bad thing.

It is. Part of the problem with the internet is it promotes silos (aka monologue). You go off and only listen to someone who already jives with your ideology tell you what you want to hear. I do this myself and it's comforting but at least I know that it's mental junk-food. The hallmark of a truly educated populace is debate. You have to have a real debate, not just people reacting to news articles, but real-time back and forth debate.
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(06-10-2019 09:25 AM)questor70 Wrote:  
(06-09-2019 02:38 AM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  People say "scripted" like it's a bad thing.

It is. Part of the problem with the internet is it promotes silos (aka monologue). You go off and only listen to someone who already jives with your ideology tell you what you want to hear. I do this myself and it's comforting but at least I know that it's mental junk-food. The hallmark of a truly educated populace is debate. You have to have a real debate, not just people reacting to news articles, but real-time back and forth debate.

It's not a bad thing, and monologue is not a "problem with the internet".

Dialogue/debate is not the sole factor of truth or education.

Can we only produce value in off-the-cuff debate, rather than planned responses/representations?

Of course not.

Further, scripted does not equal monologue . And monologue does not equal "what you want to hear".
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(06-12-2019 03:00 AM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  monologue does not equal "what you want to hear".

You have to understand that youbuters are selling a product just like Fox News and MSNBC sell a product. They are selling carefully curated ideology that is tailor made for a certain demographic. It would be bad business to allow for any sense of doubt in the positions expressed. Hence you get diatribe rather than debate.

Look, I get it. It's extremely comforting to find people who validate your belief-system who just rant and rave constantly. But I am under no illusions that this accomplishes anything beyond preaching to the converted.
06-12-2019 08:04 PM
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