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(05-24-2019 04:05 PM)Corleone Wrote:  
(05-24-2019 03:08 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  Since the forum is making a bit of a U-Turn, I think might be worthwhile for me to drop this information in the week before I go.

I'm going to say up front that I believe finding a Muslim or a Hindu wife is pretty easy, because those cultures seriously reinforce the religious teaching and make the women naturally higher quality.

This primary question comes from Christian guys who really struggle to find a woman in a culture that pushes females in the opposite direction of quality. So, I'm just going to put down my top observations here.

1. Submission. The Christian religion tells women to submit to their husbands as they would submit to God. If a woman won't submit to God... then she won't submit to you either. Notice the Bible doesn't say "submit to your husband if he is perfect or only when he is right"... it says always. I know women who have a very willful spirit, but are submissive to their husband. This is the type I like most. Either way when you are dealing with a woman you should make this a serious topic of discussion and then pay extreme attention to this. Don't be afraid to push the envelope here. Also, you will run into women who are naturally submissive, you have to watch this type because they can fool you.

By the way... the culture literally tells women to be dominant or equal to a man. So, this is a great test of what they actually believe.

2. Spiritually minded. Women that are happy to attend church. The ones that show up on Easter and Christmas only are a bad choice. You want someone who will be an encouragement to your faith, not a burden. Some women only like church for the social aspect so watch for this too. A spiritual woman will engage in bible study and read or study on her own time. Christians call this being "Equally Yoked".

3. Helper. It's important that a woman you choose be a helper to you. Think of the type of woman that will make you a lunch before you leave for work. Not all women help in the same way though. If she helps you fill out TPS reports for work, that can be just as good as ironing your clothes. Don't get caught up in the 1950's stereotype woman.

4. Children. This is just my opinion, but I've noticed that solid Christian women enjoy kids and family. You have to look pretty deep on this though. I know quite a few ladies who are good housewives and solid Christian women, but on some level resent the work they have to do for their kids. Hiking a mountain is hard work, but lots of people enjoy it and do it for fun. This should be the approach to caring for kids. Overly controlling women really struggle. I will say this... women who like kids often want to have lots of them. I suggest that this might be a way to determine. Ultimately it may remain unknown until you have one with her as I think most women don't know themselves how they will feel about it. I have noticed that women from large families tend to love kids more than ones from small families.

Last point on children. Careers for women are a tough subject. Know that across the board women find over 60% of their affair partners at work. I think that a good Christian woman will choose children over careers every time. I know some women I consider to be great that work 2 or 3 days a month. I recently saw a church implode after the church secretary got caught with the pastor. So, my suggestion is to have a woman who works less than 20 hours a week, or stays home. I know housewives tend to go crazy a bit... so you have to compensate for this by giving her some outlets. This is just my opinion and everyone is different.

5. Sexuality. This is a super tough one. I suggest you just talk about it with her in advance. If you are and aged out player... I think maybe be up front about it. If you are a virgin... I strongly suggest you find a girl that is the same. Some churches have lots of 30 something single moms. I'm not going to tell you that these women are unworthy, but lets just say they are significantly higher risk, and I don't even care what kind of sob story they give you. If they married an asshole at age 19 and divorced after a mess of a marriage, keep in mind she picked that guy, and thats likely what she is attracted to naturally. My suggestion is that you never marry a woman with more experience than yourself. I also suggest you marry a woman that can handle your libido. If you wind up in a sexless marriage, something is deadly wrong.

I want to say that even though I'm posting info on Christian women, anyone of any faith is welcome to jump in and provide any info. I'm including atheists in that because believing that there is nothing requires faith too.

This is an interesting topic for me, as I have some experiences in the past few years on this topic. And I am interested in responses too.

1. Submission- First, let me say that the church I have the most experience with, is in a very conservative area of the nation. This is important, as you'll soon see.

We had men's meetings before church most times. And we spoke of this issue. Lots of elders there, so it was interesting. It was said that "the reason young men get married is usually for the promise of adequate sex. But, we all learn differently" lol!

"And the woman marries for life/financial freedom/stability/quality family life".

When the subject or the book of Ephesians got mentioned in the full church setting, and esp/ on FB among men and women from our church, it was unbelievable how many of these women who seemed so Christian and nice, would get downright crappy about the mere mention of Ephesians. I found this particularly interesting.
And the women's responses got to be darkly humorousWhip. Even and especially the older ones (55-85 year olds). I'm guessing you certainly wouldn't see this attitude in a Muslim place of worship! Exclamation

I'm tired so that's all I'll say for now, but hope it brings some convo on this subject.

The dead bedroom thing seems disturbingly common. Do you think it's less of a risk outside of America?
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RE: Finding a Religious Wife - Discussion
It doesn't matter where you go, women are women everywhere.

The difference is Islamic cultures actually enforce their laws, while Christian ones don't.
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(07-29-2019 05:21 PM)Georgepithyou Wrote:  It doesn't matter where you go, women are women everywhere.

The difference is Islamic cultures actually enforce their laws, while Christian ones don't.

The Muslim culture of controlling females isn't actually "religious". It's a purely worldly law system enforced by humans. This works just as well in a secular scenario. Similarly even non-religious men profited from "Christian culture" and now that culture is gone, because piggy-backing on something doesn't work for long.

Now your only choice is a wife, who commits to God who is expecting you commit to God and then trust Him alone, while staying away from sin, to protect your family from degeneracy, instead of depending on "culture" keeping someone in check.

Of course, that requires a lot of faith and sacrifice and most people don't want to go that far.
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Do any of.you have experience with Jehovah's Witnesses? What is your opinion, if any, about this community?
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There are good and badly behaved women (and men) in all cultures. My long (but limited) experience has shown that the best girls I ever met did not have a specific religion, but were brought up very well by their parents.

I have two brothers - one married a Christian and the other a Muslim. One is divorced and the others wife threatens divorce regularly. One wife’s parents divorced several times, and the other wife’s mother has the most vile mouth you have ever heard. They have 3 children each. Ultimately these beautiful children are the ones who suffer the most.

I guess the point I’m making is choose very carefully regardless of their religion and don’t assume a religious girl will be better than a non-religious girl. There are a number of other factors to take into consideration and how the girl was brought up is very important in my experience.
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(09-27-2019 03:15 PM)Castillo Wrote:  There are good and badly behaved women (and men) in all cultures. My long (but limited) experience has shown that the best girls I ever met did not have a specific religion, but were brought up very well by their parents.

I have two brothers - one married a Christian and the other a Muslim. One is divorced and the others wife threatens divorce regularly. One wife’s parents divorced several times, and the other wife’s mother has the most vile mouth you have ever heard. They have 3 children each. Ultimately these beautiful children are the ones who suffer the most.

I guess the point I’m making is choose very carefully regardless of their religion and don’t assume a religious girl will be better than a non-religious girl. There are a number of other factors to take into consideration and how the girl was brought up is very important in my experience.

You overlooked the problem: That "religious" girls who marry non-religious guys are part of the chaff regardless. And yes, that's the parents' fault.

The key condition for finding a religious wife is the man's ability to lead religiously. And a wife who follows his lead unhesitatingly, because she trusts his decision between right and wrong unconditionally. Everything else falls into place then.

The ability to build such trust is rare in men. For example no man who believes in sex before marriage is able to lead a religious wife believably. While she might enjoy the sinful activity before putting the ring on it, he sows doubt deep inside her, which is going to surface at some point and destroy everything.
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If you're Catholic (or part of a non-heretical Eastern Rite), I highly recommend this site: https://www.avemariasingles.com


The audience is considerably smaller there but they're targeting a niche audience. They only want deeply religious, fully believing Catholics. By and large the Site's membership reflects that. Ratios are still what they are but anyone who has been on here for some time is good enough at game to blow the competition on such sites out of the water.
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(09-26-2019 10:52 PM)Zoso Wrote:  Do any of.you have experience with Jehovah's Witnesses? What is your opinion, if any, about this community?

Better to be celibate then put yourself and your potential family under a sect like that.

Are you ready to deny your children blood transfusions and letting them die? Are you ok with your wife divorcing you over a blood transfusion? Are you ok with spending lot's of money and time on indoctrination, that could be used on self improvement for yourself and children?
There are lot's of videos and channel on youtube from JW apostates that expose what a stupid and evil sect they are.
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(09-27-2019 04:38 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  If you're Catholic (or part of a non-heretical Eastern Rite), I highly recommend this site: https://www.avemariasingles.com


The audience is considerably smaller there but they're targeting a niche audience. They only want deeply religious, fully believing Catholics. By and large the Site's membership reflects that. Ratios are still what they are but anyone who has been on here for some time is good enough at game to blow the competition on such sites out of the water.

Here would be the in Person Alternative. I'm not local so its' tough to justify, but I bet the women there would be keen on marriage. It'd be interesting to see the male-female % as this event, age range, if there are some young devout beauties. On the other hand it could be there are a lot of 30, 40+ divorcees, women who have kids there are reformed from other marriages and are looking for a white knight. I guess if she's got her annulment its legit.

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(09-28-2019 01:48 PM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  On the other hand it could be there are a lot of 30, 40+ divorcees, women who have kids there are reformed from other marriages and are looking for a white knight.

I aint catholic, so I wouldn't be signing up on that avemaria site, but I did take a peek out of idle curiosity. You can scroll through some profiles before registering, and well, a few pages worth of scrolling there was maybe like 4 gals south of 35 on there. I'm sure once you register you can filter your age settings. But even the profiles, for being on the older end, assuming they're all real, they still didn't look that bad. Its online dating. Proceed with caution. A collection of baggage laiden broken women, where a man ain't nothing but a number in her phone waiting in line for the privilege of talking to her for a split second as she bounces back and forth amongst conversations.

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(09-28-2019 01:20 PM)Mage Wrote:  
(09-26-2019 10:52 PM)Zoso Wrote:  Do any of.you have experience with Jehovah's Witnesses? What is your opinion, if any, about this community?

Better to be celibate then put yourself and your potential family under a sect like that.

Are you ready to deny your children blood transfusions and letting them die? Are you ok with your wife divorcing you over a blood transfusion? Are you ok with spending lot's of money and time on indoctrination, that could be used on self improvement for yourself and children?
There are lot's of videos and channel on youtube from JW apostates that expose what a stupid and evil sect they are.

Well, I've been part of that life and left them for that reason.

But my familiy continues there and i've seen real good wife material there. Now that I don't believe in god, or at least I believe in him in my own way, I was thinking that maybe I could use it to my purposes. Of course, there are some points I disagree but I agree in many of their thoughts.
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(09-30-2019 10:56 AM)Zoso Wrote:  
(09-28-2019 01:20 PM)Mage Wrote:  
(09-26-2019 10:52 PM)Zoso Wrote:  Do any of.you have experience with Jehovah's Witnesses? What is your opinion, if any, about this community?

Better to be celibate then put yourself and your potential family under a sect like that.

Are you ready to deny your children blood transfusions and letting them die? Are you ok with your wife divorcing you over a blood transfusion? Are you ok with spending lot's of money and time on indoctrination, that could be used on self improvement for yourself and children?
There are lot's of videos and channel on youtube from JW apostates that expose what a stupid and evil sect they are.

Well, I've been part of that life and left them for that reason.

But my familiy continues there and i've seen real good wife material there. Now that I don't believe in god, or at least I believe in him in my own way, I was thinking that maybe I could use it to my purposes. Of course, there are some points I disagree but I agree in many of their thoughts.

You are acting out of scarcity mentality.
You are not acting out of abundance mentality.

There may be some seemingly good wife material there in that miserable pit of foul air, bit there is also some really good wife material in different places without the hassle of joining a manipulative sect robs you of your freedom.

You should research the concept of Sunk-Cost Fallacy and contemplate how this applies with your past involvement in JW organization.

When you compromise on your beliefs for a woman you lose your soul, both in this life and in the next. It's a miserable existence
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One great thing about a religious woman is they want to be wife to a husband, not star of their wedding show.

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(09-30-2019 11:11 AM)Mage Wrote:  You are acting out of scarcity mentality.
You are not acting out of abundance mentality.

There may be some seemingly good wife material there in that miserable pit of foul air, bit there is also some really good wife material in different places without the hassle of joining a manipulative sect robs you of your freedom.

You should research the concept of Sunk-Cost Fallacy and contemplate how this applies with your past involvement in JW organization.

When you compromise on your beliefs for a woman you lose your soul, both in this life and in the next. It's a miserable existence
Thanks man for your input.
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(09-27-2019 04:38 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  If you're Catholic (or part of a non-heretical Eastern Rite), I highly recommend this site: https://www.avemariasingles.com


The audience is considerably smaller there but they're targeting a niche audience. They only want deeply religious, fully believing Catholics. By and large the Site's membership reflects that. Ratios are still what they are but anyone who has been on here for some time is good enough at game to blow the competition on such sites out of the water.

I'll never understand the cocksureness of some Catholics that the mess that is their church, past and present, is the only true church of God. That said, I'm married to a devout Catholic from south of the border and I can confirm that the women can make great wives. That belief that they only get one marriage motivates them to put in a sincere effort, and a sincere effort is more than you're likely to get from most women nowadays. Not sure about American Catholic girls, because the RCC here seems pretty leftist infiltrated, but mass south of the border might be a good place to look for a wife.

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You just need to be careful: here in Brazil you get s lot of young catholic and protestant women that aren't worth shit: degenerated to the core but with a "naive religious girl" facade. As always, see what she does rather than what she says.
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(10-01-2019 04:18 AM)Steely Wrote:  You just need to be careful: here in Brazil you get s lot of young catholic and protestant women that aren't worth shit: degenerated to the core but with a "naive religious girl" facade. As always, see what she does rather than what she says.

Definitely. It's the same here with girls who go to church. Back when I was single I met a cute girl in her twenties who went to church every Sunday. Said she was saving herself for marriage, but it turned out she'd blown over a dozen guys because blowjobs apparently don't count.

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(10-01-2019 08:08 AM)bucky Wrote:  
(10-01-2019 04:18 AM)Steely Wrote:  You just need to be careful: here in Brazil you get s lot of young catholic and protestant women that aren't worth shit: degenerated to the core but with a "naive religious girl" facade. As always, see what she does rather than what she says.

Definitely. It's the same here with girls who go to church. Back when I was single I met a cute girl in her twenties who went to church every Sunday. Said she was saving herself for marriage, but it turned out she'd blown over a dozen guys because blowjobs apparently don't count.

The fault is that the girl is still unmarried in her 20s. Nowadays you essentially get the choice between:

1. low sex drive virgin saving herself for marriage
2. high sex drive non-virgin with a few (or many) notches
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(09-30-2019 11:49 PM)bucky Wrote:  I'll never understand the cocksureness of some Catholics that the mess that is their church, past and present, is the only true church of God.

Yeah, and the Prots love to troll us. Catholicism is in a weak moment yes, and weaker in the US where it is surrounded by Protestantism.

With Various prot sects, many have fully abandoned or the sects just split into devout conservative or fully churchian leftist. The thing about the Catholic Church is that we are all in the same boat and still go to the same Church. With the exception of the Traditional Latin Mass, I don't think you get a 'religious wife' out of your typical Church. Unless you hit up daily mass, then you might do well. Still a Churchian woman will have some foundation and belief that can be fostered by her man.

(09-30-2019 11:49 PM)bucky Wrote:  That belief that they only get one marriage motivates them to put in a sincere effort

Pretty sure Jesus said whatever God bonds together isn't to be taken apart. Catholic marriages to Catholics do quite well statistically, really we need to stop giving dispensations to Prots and outsiders.

(09-30-2019 11:49 PM)bucky Wrote:  Not sure about American Catholic girls, because the RCC here seems pretty leftist infiltrated, but mass south of the border might be a good place to look for a wife.

The Church was infiltrated by some 1200 men who were communists placed into the seminaries as agents of the Communist party. Read up on Bella Dodd. Also, sadly our women are affected by fake news, feminism, and lefty universities as much as anyone. The key is the actual faith is not at all lefty, yes our Pope Freemason Frankie is trying to change that, but its just optics so far, he hasn't been able to truly change the catechism.

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It's great, with Trump's victory the prospect of finding a loyal, feminine, traditional wife is a realist goal, as opposed to a hopeless dream.
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