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Here's a God-pill jam for you. This band got tons of hate for being an outspoken Christian band in the mostly secular heavy music scene. There was a big fiasco a few years ago when their previous guitarist made a comment about homosexuals and sin on Twitter, not all too different from the Foleau controversy going on in Australia...Their songs slam though
06-25-2019 09:40 AM
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Computer-manufactured pop music is absolutely intolerable for me. I play guitar and bass as a hobby and have very little respect for music that isn't played on actual instruments (though I have a bit of a weakness for chiptune and retrowave.)

The murky, mumbly indie rock I like is about the furthest you can get from some dumb bimbo singing about the hamster carousel.



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I used to hate it. I grew up on 60's music and classic rock and used to really look down on pop and worship classic / progressive rock for being so deep and edgy.

Now I actually don't mind it that much as long as I have limited exposure. I can listen to UK radio for an hour a week and actually enjoy some of it, but once the same songs begin repeating themselves it does get annoying.

I will say though that it depends on my mood - sometimes I'd like to hear deep progressive tunes and wild guitar riffs, and sometimes I just want some cool background music.
Also, you can't invite friends over (especially female) and put on really deep or serious music. It's just not fun and light enough.
06-25-2019 10:24 AM
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(06-25-2019 10:05 AM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  The murky, mumbly indie rock I like is about the furthest you can get from some dumb bimbo singing about the hamster carousel.




This sounds like Smashing Pumpkins with less unique vocals. I'm not criticizing that because it's pretty good but i'm wondering is this the trend of current indie? Is it a revitalization of the 90's.
06-25-2019 11:41 AM
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Yes. 100% yes. Little background I'm 51 and have been a musician most of my life. Been making a living the past 8 years strictly from music and I've studied with several top teachers.

Today's music is shit. I hate to think I'm turning into a crotchety old man going "these kids today don't know music" but you can't help it.

It's been a couple of things that accelerated the downfall. There's always been good music and shit music but never like it is today.

One thing is the advances in technology is now anyone can sit on her laptop now and create music. Back in the day you had to actually save up money and going to a real recording studio and that set the bar higher. Nowadays just about anyone can cut-and-paste a couple of things together and call it a song.

The other thing is the popularity of rap, hip hop and electronic music has certainly done a number on quality listening. To watch the likes of Carly B and mumble rappers make it big when 20 years ago they would've just been absolutely laughed at and told go home and practice is absurd. They are literally the Karsashians of music and I really question the sanity of anybody that would listen to that dreck.

I had a humbling conversation recently talking to a millennial kid he was probably 22-23. He asked me what I did and I said I'm a musician. He said "Oh so you make beats?" I said no I play guitar and play music. He was totally bewildered and had no idea what I was talking about. I literally had tho show him pictures going see there's me with my guitar, there's the drummer, there's the singer and we actually play music. He had no clue and I said at that moment oh man we're fucked. I can see him going "that's cool but I don't listen to old people music" but to literally not even have a clue about how music is made just really threw me for a loop.
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I think today's music is shit because large scale producers and recording companies have gotten a monopoly in terms of having massive marketing budgets to promote their artists. In the past, music was more 'organic' because it was harder to advertise. It was dependent on word of mouth or attending gigs to hear it, and then on people taking the physical effort of going out and buying the records.

The phenomenon of a 'manufactured pop star' was almost a niche in the early 2000s; now its the vast majority of charting artists, who have ghost writers and teams of personnel behind the scenes pulling all sorts of strings to ensure their talent cash cow can be milked for as much as possible. It's so bad that the 'market' is now so saturated it's difficult to see how new independent artists could ever have the chance of breaking through.
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Modern pop music boils my piss but I have special venom reserved for mumble rap
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I'm 27 and don't like most of today's music.

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(06-24-2019 09:37 PM)SeaFM Wrote:  I can’t stand it, and not because I’m old, but because the music is garbage. Auto tuned, electronic garbage.

Correct. "A Dose of Buckley" pretty much echos my thoughts on "pop" music.






Quote:I know every generation thinks new music is garbage, or what my parents used to say, “noise” but this is really different fundamentally.

Correct again. The former generations of musicians whose music was "garbage" actually could play instruments, and compose musical scores.

They didn't just loop a shitty electronic beat, drag a needle over someone else's music, and talk in a monotonous pattern.
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After my recent trips to Africa, I listen to afro beats to pump myself up.

Otherwise its classical Indian or western music on repeat
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I keep listening to the same old playlists on Spotify - mostly 70s to 90s or early 00s rock and pop music, or more recent stuff from artists who have been around since that time - because whenever I force myself to listen to the new hitlists showing up on the front page I can't stand listening to more than the initial seconds of about 1 in 50 songs on a very lucky day. Occasionally I find a few recent songs worthy of bookmarking but it's definitely rare.
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This is "today`s music," as far as I`m concerned. (I`m mostly a jazz guy, but I like country and bluegrass etc. as well.)





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Don't move to the Philippines. They have the worst taste in music in the universe and blast it at full volume everywhere. Usually two different songs at the same time, plus a TV going as well.

But yeah most the modern Western crap is annoying too. There's all kinds of subliminal pozzed messages in it, I think our subconscious is rebelling against that too since we're aware of the agenda... this unconscious reaction just gets interpreted by the conscious mind as "I don't like this music".
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It might be related to the limited attention spans in the younger generation, as a consequence of smart phone/social media addiction and so on. Current pop music requires extremely limited investments for the listener. It`s straight in on ear and straight out the other, nothing that sticks with you...on to the next tune. Seems like some kind of comforting (for some people) background noise or jingles to me, rather than real music which tend to stir your emotions.

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Quote: "A Dose of Buckley" pretty much echos my thoughts on "pop" music.

Laugh Almost hard to believe that #1 is a real song... what a great ‘hook’:

“Ass
Cash
Bags...”

If only you knew how bad things really are.
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(06-24-2019 08:54 PM)Repo Wrote:  I dont care what anyone says, rap over the last few years is lightyears ahead of the dark soulja boy laffy taffy era. This is a good time to be a rap / hip hop fan.

Would you mind sharing some? Like top 3 or something? Would be curious to hear what is good these days....Thanks.

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(06-25-2019 11:41 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  This sounds like Smashing Pumpkins with less unique vocals. I'm not criticizing that because it's pretty good but i'm wondering is this the trend of current indie? Is it a revitalization of the 90's.

Not really. Bands like this are pretty deep underground, the big indie rock publications like Pitchfork ignore this kind of music in favor of synthpop and hip hop. But there are other artists like Turnover, Infinity Girl, and Teenage Wrist who have a similar sound.

I haven't seen this mentioned yet but I can't seem to escape that awful latino rap music where every song has the exact same stupid beat.
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Born in 1977. Literally grew up with Sugar Hill, Kurtis Blow, vinyl as "toys". Weird kid that used to sit around listening to that instead of watching cartoons. Later cratedigger/producer guy, worked in the industry, etc,etc. I'm THAT guy.

I don't even listen to Hip-Hop anymore and haven't for a few years.

Last album I actually downloaded was Future's "Purple Reign". I think there's a whole wave of guys that sound just like him. I don't even know enough anymore to know who's biting who and who started what. These guys can't spit.

It's audio fast food.

I put Hip-Hop on a pedestal my whole life and now have to realize that maybe it was a huge waste of time and a net negative for the Black community and the world as a whole.

This year I've only listened to instrumental music I've never heard before. Listening to the same albums over and over now seems weird. I wasted hours and hours skimming through vinyl looking for samples. Should have been learning to play something instead.
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I love all music.

When you start being inflexible enough to see the value of modern music, that means you are officially "old".

Not passing judgment, this is just my opinion. Good or bad, like it or not, I worship all music. Could be a aborigine banging two sticks together.

I will give money to anybody on the street if they are playing real music.
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Im only annoyed from what i hear on the radio and the state im in its either country or pop and its fucking depressing.

As far as hip hop i bump alot of underground shit. If you want modern quality (lyrical) rap then thats the way to go and im thoroughly enjoying it.
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Since Im in a relationship for quit some time, I didnt had to listen to awful 0815 NPC music that you have to endure when you go out at night for chasing women.

But I remember the last time I went out with a group of people I dont really like, but they were basically my "proxy group" to approach women cause I simply can't go out alone. Anyway. Some new cute German chick joined our group as she was a friend of someone and when I spotted her playing on her phone looking bored, I sat next to her and asked: "Show me what kind of music you listen".

She opened her youtube history and voila: Some native german Hip Hop with a refrain more or less like: "Yeah, oh, let's go fuck those bitches nigger" (sorry my language but its 1:1 the song). I told her what's the point of music like that? She annoyed went back to her friend.


I'm lucky I don't have to go out anymore and did "my time" but now since I have a daughter on the way, if I would ever come home and hear her play some "black culture hip hop" music out of her room, I would smash her iPod into oblivion.
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Going to concerts and buying cds used to be a central focus of my life all throughout my 20s and early 30s. I also play multiple instruments. My ex was a high level sound engineer so I also got a decent view of the inside of the industry.

Always hated rap. Found it absolutely repulsive on all levels, and totally unlistenable. Really like blues and jazz though, so it can't just be a revulsion to American Black subculture.

Anyway...

Into my late 30s I find nearly all music to be so trite and ridiculous that I pretty much cling to classical and jazz, with a few of my old rock favorites from childhood thrown in (still like Dylan, the Stones, Kinks, Bowie, Zep, The Cure, even newish stuff like White Stripes, Oasis, Ryan Adams, Libertines, Arctic Monkeys, Laura Marling... just much less than before).

I have a younger girlfriend and she always has youtube random playlists on. And they consist mostly of indie bands. Now, most of these indie bands are capable musicians, and the tunes are reasonably catchy and novel enough in their mixes/arrangements. Yet... I just can't get into it. Seems so stupid and such a waste of time.

The rock star/rap celebs people look like clownish fools playing at being a "star", and it's really hard to respect that (for instance, I liked Bowie/Cure despite the retard makeup). Yet, these indie people are the worst kind of extreme opposite -- totally boring, annoying, super soy, super fey, dolts. They remind me of the loser kids who drag-ass through a fast food job their parents forced them into and how they think they are so above it all and so talented when they play a local show, yet what they do just doesn't distinguish them from a hobbyist who has a few years practice. Their songwriting/storytelling SUCKS, and they have little presence.

So yeah, I can relate to OP. I really have no time or care for modern music or modern musicians. Not just the satanic music industry stars, but even the local bands are really annoying and repulsive to me. Going to a pub with "live music" is an absolute punishment and I avoid it.

I'd rather go to a music school and listen to the kids (who are almost ready to graduate) play some classical recitals.

One weird thing I noticed is that I suddenly developed this massive appreciation for the Beach Boys mid period stuff. I used to enjoy their singles but never held them up like the other 60s rock bands. Now I think Pet Sounds and Smile Sessions may be some of the most enjoyable and beautiful music ever made. I listen to those constantly.

I think a part of all this is just getting older and getting current cultural fatigue.
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When I got to Turkey I did what I usually never do ... turn on the TV. As the thing is dangling over the bed it was to hard not to do. On one of the music channels there was the worst Illuminati mind control music I've ever seen by a tragic girl called Billie Elllish being drug round like a piece of trash and being stuffed with injections. Now the TV is unplugged.

It's been over two years since I've watched any TV/films unless I was on a plane or ill. Virtually everything has strong degenerative qualities if it's not openly satanic now. There is no potitivity without being vapid and left-wing. But they're mostly festivals of cheating, whoring, death, decadence and depression. Note that it's only after the left has taken virtually complete hold of media that this level of decay has become the staple.

I've been unplugged from the mainstream of what passes for culture for more than half a lifetime. I know most of the names like Lady GaGa and Kendrick Lamar. But I don't know any of their songs and if I'm lucky I don't even know what they look like.

When I was young the music had become largely meaningless - this was the 90s. The themes were mostly feel good and hedonist, but at the same time a lot of it was pretty innocent.

When I was a bit older there was a resurgence of popularity in rock music, specifically nu-metal, which was highly manufactured and full of bad leads to live your life by. All the people I knew who went into the rock music subculture and stayed there have ruined their lives.

I think what's happened is that at some point in the last ten years is a lot of the cultural motifs of the fake underground of rock music has been appropriated by the mainstream and made more vapid.

When I was young the culture was very fun and pleasure seeking oriented. It was very conformist and jock-like. People all worse the same sports brands like Nike, Adidas and then Kappa. As they got older they moved into cheap brand clothing for the clubs like Ben Sherman and Ellese.

The rock counter to this was very much about being an individual, while just conforming to different codes of dress, music taste and behaviour.

The mainstream has gobbled this up and made it more depressing and vapid. It's gravitated heavily to a faux individualism, mixed with all the self-hatred and depression of much rock music. The individualism seems to revolve around making yourself different and showing your pain and dysfunction. The new conformism is pretending to be different with little accouterments that have no meaning.



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I have to somewhat rescind my last post, the musical talent migrated to other genres or is now paired within certain artforms which are enjoying their creative zenieth. I think certain artforms do have a highly growing era where the structures are very freeform and where real creatives end up getting drawn towards, for this generation I'm pretty sure its memetic warfare (a combination of so many different things). Whatever that generation needs to get its angst or hopes/regrets out, it'll be seen in real grassroots arts, which is why memes are art they are expressing something too real for the corporate media to allow be seen, they're saying the things nobody else can articulate if you went about in a structured way about it.

Anyway...

There is some fantastic melodic music being made in videogames (in particular has been excellent for many years since the 90's) and Film/TV world, retrowave scene (FM-84 for example). That's where all my listening is these days. Its so very niche, but it shouldn't be.

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These could have been a party hit if had been released as a single:





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Final Fantasy and Metal Gear carrying the flag for music in gaming back in the 90's to prove my point, graphics actually have least effect in creating atmosphere in my experience:





There is so much out here in the gaming soundscape its an embarassment of riches, I can't say that about many other areas of modern media, it isn't forced to play to a market listenership or to booty ultimately and its better for it. There is so much free experimentation and little to none oversight. I haven't played some of the above in the previous post and I probably never will, but their music is great even outside the game, that's the sign of great music.








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