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(07-03-2019 10:46 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Drug and Opioid-Involved Overdose Deaths — United States, 2013–2017

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/wr/m...675152e1_w

2017 Total Deaths 47,600 with 38,000 younger than the 1946 to 1964 Demographic.

Equals 80% Overdose Deaths Younger than Boomers. Perhaps there is more to this Boomer hatred than meets the eye?

What is it that has the Demographics from age 15 to 54 so willing to consume deadly doses of these drugs?

Did their Boomer parents and grandparents smoke too much pot or take too much LSD?

Surely there has to be some way to blame the Boomers for 500,000 ODs over the past 10 years?

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The boomers did nothing while 10's of millions of immigrants moved in drove wages into the ground and cost of living sky high. They then spent all their wealth on worthless trinkets and have nothing to pass down and hired slave labor to mow their lawns and detail their cars.

The boomers fought tooth and nail for women's equality and at the same time women's privilege.

The young people now have nothing to live for. The women can't find good men to protect and provide for them because young men have been destroyed by the system the boomers supported. So now they sleep around hoping to find "the one", which in reality no longer exists.

The young men know they have no future so they seek instant gratification and dopamine hits from video games, to porn, to alcohol, all the way up to opiods.

Had the boomers passed on a safe and decent country young people wouldn't be killing themselves off to sedate their unhappy lives.

My opinion on boomers is I don't blame them for being asleep behind the wheel up until 9/11. Up until that point there was only a few media outlets owned by the same globalists pumping out propaganda. The problems were minor and fixable and really not worth getting upset over.

But the number of boomers who still refuse to face reality to how bad things are, with the internet in their pocket, and how glaringly bad things are, is beyond shocking to me.
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I understand the boomer meme, but not the assertion that it is reality.

My opinion of 'boomer' impacts are the result of the first large waves of divorce to affect america https://divorce.lovetoknow.com/Historica...Statistics what was the outcome? Family wealth was split with women, who then flushed it all down the toilet on stupid crap and men who were then blackpilled into not giving a crap about their own, or their children's futures. The couples that stayed married or were in 2nd marriages shifted a power balance where the husband had to placate the wife with spas, therapy, counselling, Oprah tickets and Mcmansions or else she would exercise her divorce right like her eat pray love friends. This generation of divorcees was especially dangerous as they had yet to see the effects. Millenials have witnessed the terrible parenting of single parent households and 'cool wine aunts' entering the winter of their lives bitter and alone.

Labeling anyone old, a boomer, and then writing off their opinions as irrelevant while asserting they destroyed the world is a dangerous and ignorant path. Its the same path 'boomers' took when they locked up their aging parents in old age homes, and ignored them.

The counter argument to "look at all of the bad stuff that happened corporately and politcally during the boomer's reign" can be countered with this point....there was no internet. If you were an assembly line worker at a GM plant your sources of information was televison news and a mainstream newspaper. Corrupt political deals, new laws, corrupt corporate schemes never even made it onto the radar unless you wanted to invest serious library and bookstore time researching them.

As for the boomers that are 'working too long and not retiring' I can tell you about the personal experience I had with boomers working way past retirement in the government. They were still working for one of two reasons.
1. They got divorced at some point in time and their ex wife has taken and burned half of their retirement so they have to build it all up again and work another 20 years to do so.
2. They have some adult child at home that is 30, still in college or has an NPC daughter with expensive tastes, while being a single mom or has a drug addict kid whom they had to take custody of their grand children from.
They aren't retired because some entitled woman or millenial kid is dragging them down. Its not because they love their job and want a new RV.

Even if you are right about boomers. "boomer reparations" are never going to happen. Move on. We're all in this together, pointing fingers at an entire generation is idiotic, especially a generation whose time is almost past. Unless you are going to be Jules Verne and invent a time machine to fix the past, suck it up and work on the future because thats all you've got.

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Clearly, the BOOMERS did not give me what I need to be a Man mantra through Doom colored glasses is overwhelming in this thread.

Since the End of WWII and throughout the Cold War the Globalists CFR Rockefeller-Rothschilds starting with Nixon opening up China have transformed China into an NWO one-party model authoritarian predatory capitalists juggernaut to undermine the Strategic Manufacturing bases of both the USA, EU and Latin America (Brazil) and have succeeded to such a degree with their NWO China model that they are determined to spread that one party surveillance state model World Wide.

The Boomers over 50 Million born between 1946 to 1964 postwar years were forced to compete for everything as they were described as the Pig through a Python and had to fight for everything from Uni admissions to Dorm Rooms, Military billets to Apartments, jobs and cookie-cutter suburban homes. That striving and succeeding amidst the Communist Globalists inspired 2nd and 3rd wave feminism assault on the US Economy and the Family resulted in men going into a protective cocoon man cave bunker mode to survive.

Then when the Globohomo Communists were about to anoint HRC as their choice to transform the USA into an NWO Single Party Surveillance state by shredding the US Constitution... the US Military patriot leaders approached Donald John Trump born June 14, 1946 a BOOMER point man to run for POTUS and save the United States of America - the Male cohort born between 1946 and 1964 where listening intently from their bunkers on the internet and the BOOMER men and their loyal women and families came out in such massive numbers that our first true Patriot President since Reagan was elected to Save the USA thanks to the Boomer Men (Millenial gimmedats were overwhelmingly Bernie Bros voters and bitterly disappointed Bernie kowtowed to HRC as his Global Communist handlers demanded).

President Donald John Trump has shocked the Globalist CFR NOW and used the tools available to POTUS to launch economic counterattacks on our enemies and is demanding reciprocal trade arrangements worldwide and proper fully agreed contributions to the NATO common defense. It is the Boomer Men who are in fact saving America for their children and grandchildren.

So what is a young probie red pill man to do in this world...? At 18 take the Armed Forces Aptitude tests and discover what you might actually have an aptitude for. Look at the hundreds of MOS's skills that are useful in the civilian world, Motorpool Mechanic, Tank Mechanic, Diesel Mechanic (Diesels run on BioFuels!), Airframe and Powerplant Mechanics, Shipboard steam, gas turbine and or Nuclear power plant specialists (Electronic Controls, Machinist Mates, ICmen, Electricians for all mechanical equipment inside the Reactor and in the Engine room) or Health Related fields - blood and urine testing techs, Emergency Room equipment specialists or mobile hospital specialists - someone has to set up and maintain these facilities in the midst of chaos... or go hardcore combat equipment and full-on warrior expert... there are 100 Major Military Prime Contractors and 1,000s of Sub Contractors all looking for Military Trained experts as disciplined workers.

Keep your nose clean, do not use illegal drugs or substances, do not get drunk and rape the Colonel's slut daughter or worse wife. Stay away from the base pump and dump parasitic whores looking to snag a dumb enlisted kid to get knocked up and live off of Base PX and Housing and health benefits before she divorces your arse. Use the internet while a young man with clear prospects to find a LOYAL God Respecting and Man respecting woman and red pill your self and her as a loyal religious wife and future mother of your kids.

Use your employer's tuition reimbursement and GI Bill to get your BS or MS WITHOUT MASSIVE DEBTS!!!!

Save your money and Start your own STEM business, skilled Garage, IT shop, Energy biz, construction biz etc etc and make an independent Red Pill life for yourself.

Rather than being a Black Pill whiner blaming everyone else for your problems become a ruthlessly competitive Red Pill Man of respect and make the life you want and that makes YOU happy and not some rando slut happy. Learn to be a Red Pill man that learns how to train his woman to be the loyal woman, co-worker and partner in life who puts service to your family above her own self-interests.

Remember...

For a woman to feel safe - she needs to know you will kill to protect her.

For a woman to feel loved - she has to know you will kill anyone who tries to take her from you.

For a woman's materialistic hypergamy nature to be held in check she has to know you will kill her if she tries to phock you over.

Knowing these facts will quiet a woman's soul and ensure her loyalty and respect for you - nothing else.

Learn from the Asian societies succeeding to such a great extent that they are dominating the World and RESPECT YOUR ELDERS!

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Official Whitehouse.gov President Donald John Trump's real achievements: https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-adminis...lishments/

Communist Freaking Red China's Plan to Undermine the USA and the West:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/up...18-PDF.pdf

The Naked Communists 45 Goals for the USA:
http://www.restoring-america.com/Documen...0NOTES.pdf
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(07-04-2019 09:41 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Even if you are right about boomers. "boomer reparations" are never going to happen. Move on. We're all in this together, pointing fingers at an entire generation is idiotic, especially a generation whose time is almost past. Unless you are going to be Jules Verne and invent a time machine to fix the past, suck it up and work on the future because thats all you've got.

Some boomers do get it, and most are at least some what grounded in reality v. younger generations, especially boomer women v. younger generation women.

It is just more frustrating that so few do get it because they just seem to repeat the lies they hear on TV. My advice to anyone, no matter what age or walk of life is "turn off the TV for good". Nothing is better for your soul than to quit consuming TV.

As for boomer reparations, I actually can see it happening. Not that I support it, but the young generations are hurting very badly and they will soon greatly outnumber boomers at the voting booth. How long until social security benefits and private retirement funds are raided to pay for things younger people want and believe they are entitled to. I am in my 40's and I certainly do not expect to receive a penny from social security and I actually expect to lose part of my own savings to pay for the upcoming expenses our govt. has run up over decades.

We face a huge crisis in the west. I don't think I can overstate how bad things are going to get.
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(07-04-2019 09:48 AM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Then when the Globohomo Communists were about to anoint HRC as their choice to transform the USA into an NWO Single Party Surveillance state by shredding the US Constitution... the US Military patriot leaders approached Donald John Trump born June 14, 1946 a BOOMER point man to run for POTUS and save the United States of America - the Male cohort born between 1946 and 1964 where listening intently from their bunkers on the internet and the BOOMER men and their loyal women and families came out in such massive numbers that our first true Patriot President since Reagan was elected to Save the USA thanks to the Boomer Men (Millenial gimmedats were overwhelmingly Bernie Bros voters and bitterly disappointed Bernie kowtowed to HRC as his Global Communist handlers demanded).

President Donald John Trump has shocked the Globalist CFR NOW and used the tools available to POTUS to launch economic counterattacks on our enemies and is demanding reciprocal trade arrangements worldwide and proper fully agreed contributions to the NATO common defense. It is the Boomer Men who are in fact saving America for their children and grandchildren.

So what is a young probie red pill man to do in this world...? At 18 take the Armed Forces Aptitude tests and discover what you might actually have an aptitude for. Look at the hundreds of MOS's skills that are useful in the civilian world, Motorpool Mechanic, Tank Mechanic, Diesel Mechanic (Diesels run on BioFuels!), Airframe and Powerplant Mechanics, Shipboard steam, gas turbine and or Nuclear power plant specialists (Electronic Controls, Machinist Mates, ICmen, Electricians for all mechanical equipment inside the Reactor and in the Engine room) or Health Related fields - blood and urine testing techs, Emergency Room equipment specialists or mobile hospital specialists - someone has to set up and maintain these facilities in the midst of chaos... or go hardcore combat equipment and full-on warrior expert... there are 100 Major Military Prime Contractors and 1,000s of Sub Contractors all looking for Military Trained experts as disciplined workers.

When Trump said "we need more legal immigration" I knew the guy was a failure. I don't know if he was a con to keep American patriots sedated long enough until we were greatly outnumbered or if he is just not a very smart person. Either way, him saying we need more legal immigration was the end.

We need about 50,000,000 LESS people in the USA. We are so vastly overpopulated.

At this point I would rather have Hillary, simply because as things would be just as bad as they are under Trump, the American patriots would actually realize you can't vote your way out of this mess, instead of staying asleep and falsely believing the country is being saved.

As for joining the military, I don't think it is good advice. The way we send our soldiers over to the Middle East to fight endless wars and then toss them aside when they come back is awful. At least it is a job, paycheck and skills, but some things are more valuable and when you lose those things you can never get them back.

My advice for young men would be to check out of society. That is what I did 20 years ago and it was the best thing I ever did. Just accept you can never have a good life, work 7 days a week, live as cheap as possible, and enjoy the little things until this thing crashes. Because that is as good as it will get for you and when it does crash you will be thankful you have some means to survive.
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Quote: We need about 50,000,000 LESS people in the USA. We are so vastly overpopulated.

Birth rate in the US is now below the replacement rate. The only thing driving increases in population at this point is illegal immigration. Otherwise we would be seeing our population decreasing year by year.
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(07-04-2019 01:40 PM)Lost in Transfiguration Wrote:  
Quote: We need about 50,000,000 LESS people in the USA. We are so vastly overpopulated.

Birth rate in the US is now below the replacement rate. The only thing driving increases in population at this point is illegal immigration. Otherwise we would be seeing our population decreasing year by year.

That is because high IQ people instinctively know when to stop having 5 kids due to resources. So the high IQ people are having less and less kids and that is exactly what is needed. We need 50,000,000 to 100,000,000 LESS people in the USA. The over population is causing great harm to the environment and to our own health and the results will be catastrophic.

We need to shut down all immigration forever. We should have done so 50 years ago. Dummy Trump saying we need "more legal immigration" told me all I needed to know about him. He is a fraud.
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While not a fan of immigration I don't think the US is over populated at all. Aside from a few places not fun to live, New York and San Francisco, there is plenty of room to live. Population densities in most of the US are nowhere near approaching those found in Europe and Asia.
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(07-04-2019 02:07 PM)Lost in Transfiguration Wrote:  While not a fan of immigration I don't think the US is over populated at all. Aside from a few places not fun to live, New York and San Francisco, there is plenty of room to live. Population densities in most of the US are nowhere near approaching those found in Europe and Asia.

The USA is VASTLY overpopulated. It is why young people can't afford to buy houses, pay for college, start a family, or do anything that thousands of generations before them were able to do.

Serfs in the middle ages had better lives than young people do today. And it is 100% due to the fact the USA is overpopulated.
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No, this is failure of boomers to downsize or failure to move in with family or retirement homes. They retain the homes of value in the suburbs or the city rather than moving on. Thereby, putting more upward pressure on the housing market. The fact that millenials want urban houses rather than suburbs is just as much their fault as it is boomers. Everyone knows the value proposition associated with living in the city, so, it is in fact other millennials competing with each other for houses in the city. This is not to say that the city is expensive; if they were to live anywhere other than LA, SF or NYC, there are plenty of affordable urban houses.

The us is not overpopulated have you ever lived in suburbia or any part of the US not on either coast? The US is not over-populated, it just turns out that people are like sardines on the east and west coasts.
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(07-04-2019 03:24 PM)Lost in Transfiguration Wrote:  No, this is failure of boomers to downsize or failure to move in with family or retirement homes. They retain the homes of value in the suburbs or the city rather than moving on. Thereby, putting more upward pressure on the housing market. The fact that millenials want urban houses rather than suburbs is just as much their fault as it is boomers. Everyone knows the value proposition associated with living in the city, so, it is in fact other millennials competing with each other for houses in the city. This is not to say that the city is expensive; if they were to live anywhere other than LA, SF or NYC, there are plenty of affordable urban houses.

The us is not overpopulated have you ever lived in suburbia or any part of the US not on either coast? The US is not over-populated, it just turns out that people are like sardines on the east and west coasts.

I grew up in a VERY rural area. My idea that the country is not overpopulated is not based on my observations. Though the urban sprawl the 2 hour commutes to work, and the aging infrastructure we all deal with on a day to day basis should be enough alone to realize there are too many people here.

The country is overpopulated due to simple supply and demand. Resources are not infinite, we have too much demand (people) for supply (resources) and thus we have priced ourselves out of a 1st world life and now to the point our ancestors in feudal Europe lived better.
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(07-04-2019 03:55 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(07-04-2019 03:24 PM)Lost in Transfiguration Wrote:  No, this is failure of boomers to downsize or failure to move in with family or retirement homes. They retain the homes of value in the suburbs or the city rather than moving on. Thereby, putting more upward pressure on the housing market. The fact that millenials want urban houses rather than suburbs is just as much their fault as it is boomers. Everyone knows the value proposition associated with living in the city, so, it is in fact other millennials competing with each other for houses in the city. This is not to say that the city is expensive; if they were to live anywhere other than LA, SF or NYC, there are plenty of affordable urban houses.

The us is not overpopulated have you ever lived in suburbia or any part of the US not on either coast? The US is not over-populated, it just turns out that people are like sardines on the east and west coasts.

I grew up in a VERY rural area. My idea that the country is not overpopulated is not based on my observations. Though the urban sprawl the 2 hour commutes to work, and the aging infrastructure we all deal with on a day to day basis should be enough alone to realize there are too many people here.

The country is overpopulated due to simple supply and demand. Resources are not infinite, we have too much demand (people) for supply (resources) and thus we have priced ourselves out of a 1st world life and now to the point our ancestors in feudal Europe lived better.

Infrastructure failing is because we have spent money on wars and welfare rather than improving our country.

Inadequate supply is due to West and East coasts making it so hard for people to get affordable housing. They make new construction relatively difficult. And they continue the practice of rent control. Also a myriad of rules that favor unions and corruption. People leave California and these other places because government is not responsive to their needs. As I said, go anywhere other than West Coast or East Coast, and there are none of these issues. Taxes are also lower. Texas alone gets new people day in and day out from California trying to screw up state governance to fit their liberal needs.
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The fact that boomers let the ball drop on protecting western Christian culture from subversion I don't bemoan them for. Every generation would have succumbed under the same circumstances.

I do bemoan them now, after a lifetime of reflection, for not understanding what happened to them, for having no bravery in their now wrinkled bodies to stand up for the very lives of their own grandchildren, and for remaining selfish to the last breath by demanding their own comforts be maintained at all costs, to the very obvious detriment of their own families.
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The USA is far from overpopulated. The problems with commutes and infrastructure are not due to overpopulation but poor urban planning. American cities are designed for cars, not people.
There is nowhere close the density required to support a decent rail-based public transit system.

The other factor is that more jobs are moving into cities due to the shift from physical to knowledge work. So there's a natural tendency for jobs to be concentrated in cities. Again, poor infrastructure and urban planning makes it hard for cities to absorb large increases in the workforce.

See this video from BPS about the impact of urban sprawl in America:



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That the average middle class Canadian senior seems to have no problem consuming a $ 1/4 million worth of surgery in the last few years of their life, more than they paid in taxes their whole career, shows either complete lack of financial understanding, or complete lack of empathy for their children.

I've got to think that if someone was 80 and dying with 1/4M left in the bank, that most would choose to die and let it go to the kids, instead of to doctors... But when it's taxpayer money? Let's go hog wild.
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(07-04-2019 03:24 PM)Lost in Transfiguration Wrote:  No, this is failure of boomers to downsize or failure to move in with family or retirement homes. They retain the homes of value in the suburbs or the city rather than moving on. Thereby, putting more upward pressure on the housing market. The fact that millenials want urban houses rather than suburbs is just as much their fault as it is boomers. Everyone knows the value proposition associated with living in the city, so, it is in fact other millennials competing with each other for houses in the city. This is not to say that the city is expensive; if they were to live anywhere other than LA, SF or NYC, there are plenty of affordable urban houses.

The us is not overpopulated have you ever lived in suburbia or any part of the US not on either coast? The US is not over-populated, it just turns out that people are like sardines on the east and west coasts.

I grew up in a VERY rural area. My idea that the country is not overpopulated is not based on my observations. Though the urban sprawl the 2 hour commutes to work, and the aging infrastructure we all deal with on a day to day basis should be enough alone to realize there are too many people here.

The country is overpopulated due to simple supply and demand. Resources are not infinite, we have too much demand (people) for supply (resources) and thus we have priced ourselves out of a 1st world life and now to the point our ancestors in feudal Europe lived better.

Could you modify it to "the cities are overpopulated"? Once you get out of them, things get quite affordable.

I think its like the 'instagram effect'. Where now hordes of people focus on these narrow bands of popular items, but overlook that nearby almost just as good opportunities. For example, near me is a very large national park, which is in turn surrounded by equally large national and state forests. Yet, all of the visitors to the national park line up to see the 7 or 8 already super crowded and backed up scenic views...because that is what is posted online, so that is where they go, and they never explore the nearly emply other tens of square miles of serene nature.

In this case, with popular cities everyone wants to move there. New immigrants, hipsters, then job seekers, then corporations. Made worse by the fact that a lot of older people who bought into the lie of "invest in your own real estate" are holding onto houses that are vastly outdated, yet they want a price premium. This forces the new housing growth to all be in new housing, which increases urban sprawl.

This is what Nashville is experiencing currently. 2000sq ft homes are $300k+ up from $200k in 2014. Compare that with the city proper of Memphis $120k or less. If you wanted a safer, but smaller city. Jackson TN $150k ish. Places in MS, AL, GA and KY are even cheaper.

If america was truly overpopulated, house prices would be high everywhere, it is just that popular cities are overpopulated by both citizens, immigrants and foreign investors.

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(07-04-2019 03:24 PM)Lost in Transfiguration Wrote:  No, this is failure of boomers to downsize or failure to move in with family or retirement homes. They retain the homes of value in the suburbs or the city rather than moving on. Thereby, putting more upward pressure on the housing market. The fact that millenials want urban houses rather than suburbs is just as much their fault as it is boomers. Everyone knows the value proposition associated with living in the city, so, it is in fact other millennials competing with each other for houses in the city. This is not to say that the city is expensive; if they were to live anywhere other than LA, SF or NYC, there are plenty of affordable urban houses.

The us is not overpopulated have you ever lived in suburbia or any part of the US not on either coast? The US is not over-populated, it just turns out that people are like sardines on the east and west coasts.

I grew up in a VERY rural area. My idea that the country is not overpopulated is not based on my observations. Though the urban sprawl the 2 hour commutes to work, and the aging infrastructure we all deal with on a day to day basis should be enough alone to realize there are too many people here.

The country is overpopulated due to simple supply and demand. Resources are not infinite, we have too much demand (people) for supply (resources) and thus we have priced ourselves out of a 1st world life and now to the point our ancestors in feudal Europe lived better.

Could you modify it to "the cities are overpopulated"? Once you get out of them, things get quite affordable.

I think its like the 'instagram effect'. Where now hordes of people focus on these narrow bands of popular items, but overlook that nearby almost just as good opportunities. For example, near me is a very large national park, which is in turn surrounded by equally large national and state forests. Yet, all of the visitors to the national park line up to see the 7 or 8 already super crowded and backed up scenic views...because that is what is posted online, so that is where they go, and they never explore the nearly emply other tens of square miles of serene nature.

In this case, with popular cities everyone wants to move there. New immigrants, hipsters, then job seekers, then corporations. Made worse by the fact that a lot of older people who bought into the lie of "invest in your own real estate" are holding onto houses that are vastly outdated, yet they want a price premium. This forces the new housing growth to all be in new housing, which increases urban sprawl.

This is what Nashville is experiencing currently. 2000sq ft homes are $300k+ up from $200k in 2014. Compare that with the city proper of Memphis $120k or less. If you wanted a safer, but smaller city. Jackson TN $150k ish. Places in MS, AL, GA and KY are even cheaper.

If america was truly overpopulated, house prices would be high everywhere, it is just that popular cities are overpopulated by both citizens, immigrants and foreign investors.

The United States of America can handle around 250 million people comfortably, give or take a few million. If all of the illegals were thrown out and immigration restricted to only 50k a year, then housing prices would drop down to more manageable levels although alot of people would not be happy about that.

Now, the areas that are crowded are crowded (LA, SF, NYC, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Miami, Atlanta, Washington D.C.) because all the successful people want to be there. Successful people are drawn to high quality and top places (I mean, who doesn't want to live in a place where you have 100 different choices and you have to voluntarily choose to be bored). Cities that are second tier such as Las Vegas, Charlotte, Richmond, Nashville, Memphis, Louisville, Austin, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, etc. are for the moment affordable options for the average Boomer, Gen Xer, Millennial and soon to be Gen Zer because the 1st tier cities can only be comfortably afforded by those who make over $500k and the average person desires a place to call their own rather than be permanent renters. Are Boomers to blame for high housing prices in 1st tier cities?? Well, the elite boomers, foreign investors and the (((usual suspects))) take the blame for that one. I cannot blame all boomers for the high housing prices but rather the shitty situation America finds itself in at the moment.

Btw, high housing prices deserves its own thread since this is a whole other topic in itself.
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Why 250 million, why not 200, or 150? While we're at it, why not prohibit foreigners from buying single family houses, or taxing them appropriately for it? Because in truth, they bear some blame. As has happened in Vancouver, they're also responsible for high housing prices in many markets here in the US.

Housing prices are not monolithic. The housing market differs drastically depending on the city in question. NYC and SF have some of the highest housing prices in the world, but also these cities have rent control and refuse to build at more reasonable rates. Cities like Dallas are plenty affordable.

If you cannot afford to live somewhere, you should not live there.
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(07-04-2019 04:16 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Could you modify it to "the cities are overpopulated"? Once you get out of them, things get quite affordable.

I think its like the 'instagram effect'. Where now hordes of people focus on these narrow bands of popular items, but overlook that nearby almost just as good opportunities. For example, near me is a very large national park, which is in turn surrounded by equally large national and state forests. Yet, all of the visitors to the national park line up to see the 7 or 8 already super crowded and backed up scenic views...because that is what is posted online, so that is where they go, and they never explore the nearly emply other tens of square miles of serene nature.

In this case, with popular cities everyone wants to move there. New immigrants, hipsters, then job seekers, then corporations. Made worse by the fact that a lot of older people who bought into the lie of "invest in your own real estate" are holding onto houses that are vastly outdated, yet they want a price premium. This forces the new housing growth to all be in new housing, which increases urban sprawl.

This is what Nashville is experiencing currently. 2000sq ft homes are $300k+ up from $200k in 2014. Compare that with the city proper of Memphis $120k or less. If you wanted a safer, but smaller city. Jackson TN $150k ish. Places in MS, AL, GA and KY are even cheaper.

If america was truly overpopulated, house prices would be high everywhere, it is just that popular cities are overpopulated by both citizens, immigrants and foreign investors.

The rural areas are not as densely populated but with the banker class exporting our factories overseas, the income in these rural communities makes the COL still hard to support on the local pay. It is all relative. Sure you can buy a nice/newer 2,000 square foot in a smaller town for $100,000. But when the average income is $30,000, it isn't easy to afford.

The entire country is vastly overpopulated. In 1965, which should have shut off all immigration forever. We had enough people here as it was and if we needed more we could have the govt. actually do something for the people and push for a baby boom.

Instead we went the direction of evil and the outcome is going to be beyond awful.
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I am not sure WTF people are talking about here. Neither do they. They discuss high housing prices as if cause-and-effect do not exist.

Before 1970, men routinely worked to provide for their family and women stayed home with their children as homemakers. A blue-collar working man, on just his pay alone, could easily afford a ten or fifteen year mortgage for the family home. Thirty year mortgages only became standard after 1970. Thirty years! Talk about being a wage slave owned by the bank!

So, the real question is what happened that changed all that? Until you answer that question, all this idle speculation is utterly worthless.

The Bretton Woods system was created towards the end of World War II and involved fixed exchange rates with the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency, backed by the stability of gold at $35/ounce. For example, Petrodollars are simply U.S. dollars used to buy oil, which is mandatory.

On August 15, 1971, President Nixon announced the end of the Bretton Woods international monetary system and the convertabality of the U.S. dollar into gold. From the point onward, the U.S. dollar was no longer a traditional currency backed by gold and it no longer held its value. Stagflation set in (a stagnant economy with inflation) and prices increased dramatically. Nothing was ever the same again. Living now required two-income households, latchkey kids, and thirty-year mortgages.

Women now needed to work to pay the family bills. It was a new world, which still exists to this day. Disconnecting the U.S. dollar from gold allowed the U.S. to finance its world empire, countless military bases (literally no one knows just how many U.S. military bases exist around the world), and the massive U.S. social welfare system. As the world's reserve currency, which is unpegged to gold or anything else, there are literally more U.S. dollars outside of the borders of the U.S. than inside the U.S. Mindlessly printing money unbacked by anything of value raises prices for everyone. When the rest of the world eventually turns its back on the mindless printing of the U.S. dollar, the Great Reset will occur. This will end in tears, folks.

Here we are at this point in history:

   


And here you are during this discussion, blaming high housing costs on things such as legal immigration or high population growth:

   

Educate yourselves in the areas of finance, history, and economics. Most people will suffer during the Great Reset. Some will prosper. Will it be you?
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I have heard some very deep discussions regarding the gold standard and if it was a good thing or not. No one can come to a consensus on it. The "good days" in the USA were not the gold standard, it was the tail winds of WW2 not being fought on our soil. Remember the Great Depressions and other depressions happened during the Gold standard as well. And the "great days" were really one 20 short years, from 1946 to about 1965 and then everything started to collapse.

What we do know is resources are limited. There is only so much land, so much water, and the more people you have the more demand for these resources. Add in all the wealth floating to the top, by out sourcing/in sourcing, you no longer have a middle class. You have a few wealthy elites, you have a wage slave class terrified to lose their job and send their kids to the bad schools, and you have the growing welfare class who are basically the foot soldiers of the elites to keep the wage slave class silenced and working themselves into early graves.
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(07-04-2019 06:04 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  I am not sure WTF people are talking about here. Neither do they. They discuss high housing prices as if cause-and-effect do not exist.

Before 1970, men routinely worked to provide for their family and women stayed home with their children as homemakers. A blue-collar working man, on just his pay alone, could easily afford a ten or fifteen year mortgage for the family home. Thirty year mortgages only became standard after 1970. Thirty years! Talk about being a wage slave owned by the bank!

So, the real question is what happened that changed all that? Until you answer that question, all this idle speculation is utterly worthless.

The Bretton Woods system was created towards the end of World War II and involved fixed exchange rates with the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency, backed by the stability of gold at $35/ounce. For example, Petrodollars are simply U.S. dollars used to buy oil, which is mandatory.

On August 15, 1971, President Nixon announced the end of the Bretton Woods international monetary system and the convertabality of the U.S. dollar into gold. From the point onward, the U.S. dollar was no longer a traditional currency backed by gold and it no longer held its value. Stagflation set in (a stagnant economy with inflation) and prices increased dramatically. Nothing was ever the same again. Living now required two-income households, latchkey kids, and thirty-year mortgages.

Women now needed to work to pay the family bills. It was a new world, which still exists to this day. Disconnecting the U.S. dollar from gold allowed the U.S. to finance its world empire, countless military bases (literally no one knows just how many U.S. military bases exist around the world), and the massive U.S. social welfare system. As the world's reserve currency, which is unpegged to gold or anything else, there are literally more U.S. dollars outside of the borders of the U.S. than inside the U.S. Mindlessly printing money unbacked by anything of value raises prices for everyone. When the rest of the world eventually turns its back on the mindless printing of the U.S. dollar, the Great Reset will occur. This will end in tears, folks.

Here we are at this point in history:

Here you are during this discussion, blaming high housing costs on things such as legal immigration or high population growth:

You make a good point relative to the original topic of the discussion. Who was responsible for the change in the US monetary system? Corrupt banker elites yes, not the Harley Davidson boomer.

Boomers did not ruin the USA. A small group of wealthy and powerful people did, the same people who have been profiteering off of it since Andrew Jackson's era in the 1820s

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(07-04-2019 06:23 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  You make a good point relative to the original topic of the discussion. Who was responsible for the change in the US monetary system? Corrupt banker elites yes, not the Harley Davidson boomer.

Boomers did not ruin the USA. A small group of wealthy and powerful people did, the same people who have been profiteering off of it since Andrew Jackson's era in the 1820s

Actually Jackson shut down our first federal reserve and was punished harshly by the banker class for it the rest of his life. But since Woodrow Wilson the banker class has been working overtime to destroy the concept of the USA, you are correct with this very important point. It wasn't the Boomer Harley riders that destroyed the USA, it was the elite banker class.

The frustrating thing with Boomers is many cannot grasp this concept.
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(07-04-2019 05:46 PM)Lost in Transfiguration Wrote:  Why 250 million, why not 200, or 150? While we're at it, why not prohibit foreigners from buying single family houses, or taxing them appropriately for it? Because in truth, they bear some blame. As has happened in Vancouver, they're also responsible for high housing prices in many markets here in the US.

Housing prices are not monolithic. The housing market differs drastically depending on the city in question. NYC and SF have some of the highest housing prices in the world, but also these cities have rent control and refuse to build at more reasonable rates. Cities like Dallas are plenty affordable.

If you cannot afford to live somewhere, you should not live there.

250 million is the supposed population of the United States of America if all the illegals were deported as they should be. If there are more illegals than the 50 to 60 million that are supposedly out there, then they have to go as well (and that could bring it down to the 150 to 200 million level)

Also, I do agree that poor city policies, marketing and foreigners bear a good portion of the blame for the increase in housing prices, but this is the case because our laws are too lax with respect to foreign investment, people are convinced that they have to live in SF, LA, NYC, etc. to get the best experience possible and the rules that are behind rent pricing (we can blame elite boomers and their (((friends))) for this one).

The best way to manage this issue is to increase awareness and get people off their asses to take action. Unfortunately, that is easier said than done.
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^^^ Are we gonna repatriate Africans too? Or do they get to stay?
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