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RE: Playing video games over 30
This is your life. Do what you enjoy regardless of what others think. It's funny hearing how some say playing this particular game is more silly than another game. It may be, but you aren't the intended audience. Let them enjoy playing 2k/Madden with the boys.

There are people out here who play certain games seriously and make a living out of this. I don't know how they are considered losers to some because they play video games seriously. The thing here is moderation.
07-04-2019 03:53 AM
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RE: Playing video games over 30
I've played video games since my Commodore 64. I haven't seen a reason to stop just because I'm now 42. I'm self-employed and usually have plenty of time in a week for both work, physical and intellectual pursuits, and relaxation with movies, TV, books and video games.
In recent years it varies a lot how much I play - if I've just bought a new, large game I might put in several blurry-eyed late nights in a row or over a few weeks, and at other times I play very little or not at all for a while (not at all the last three or four weeks for instance).

Sure, there are people who become addicted to video games and waste their lives on little else, just like there are people who become unhealthily addicted to assorted other things. But for people with a bit more self control and balance in their lives, I don't see video games as anything more than another, more interactive type of entertainment than watching TV.

I've had a few women comment negatively on the hobby. While they were on a break from level 1500 in Candy Crush on their phones. I was struggling a bit to take them seriously.
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RE: Playing video games over 30
As someone who grew up parallel to the development of video games, I have to say that it's very much core part of my life, despite the fact that I don't even game anymore.

Seeing the marble ruins backdrop in the original Sonic inspired awe in the eyes of my imaginative, six year old brain: "One day, I'll see the Greek ruins in real life."

Seeing Link go to every length to save his sister in Windwaker inspired in me a desire to be the best man I can possibly be: "One day, my female relatives can rely on me to be a strong man"

Seeing Mario dash about in the glorious vistas of Sunshine made me realize how important it is to seek a high quality of life "One day, I'll explore the tropics and find a similar paradise."

Seeing fighters duke it out in Mortal Kombat made me realize the challenges a warrior of yesteryear had to face, and what the life of a gladiator must have been like.

And so on and so forth.

I'm now in a place where a lot of those dreams have been realized, and I never would have had the inspiration - let alone the inkling of an idea - to go out in search of these new worlds. In other words, video games have given me glimpses into fictional universes, which have propelled me out in search of earthly equivalents.

As a positive side effect, great video games (traditionally, older ones) have a distinct red pill edge, teaching one the value of heroism, adventure seeking, and generally masculine ideals. These values, completely lacking in modern society, can be learned just be switching on the console and really plugging in. Of course, it's ultimately up to the player to internalize these values, as it eventually boils down to the individual's disposition and view on life. That's why you have cats like me, who've succeeded in part because of video games, and on the other end of the spectrum, the all-too-common-basemen-dwelling WoW addict. It's easy to cast all gamers with the latter's brush, but to do so would be to ignore all of the men out there who have gamed (or still do) and are successful in real life.

The bottom line is that many video games are beautiful pieces of art that have thousands of hours of creative geniosity poured into them, and stand as microcosms unto themselves. I highly encourage those unfamiliar with this medium to explore it, especially the releases from 90s to the early 00s, as this was before it was tainted with SJW nonsense, and often embodied very masculine ideals.

To cast "gaming" aside into the bucket of "those things neckbeard losers do" would be the equivalent of dismissing works great art, literature, film, and any other modes of creative expression. It's unfortunate that there actually are many losers who game to the exclusion of everything else, but given the nature of this forum and the men who use it, I would view this risk as a non issue among our members. Video games are an a precious art form that have provided food for dreams to a young me, as well as many other adventurous souls world wide. I hope someday that it is viewed universally to that effect.
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I don't know about how cool it is after 30 but video games accomplished what a ton of 80's and 90's alienated nerd movies couldn't. It bridged the gap between the cool jocks and computer nerds. Today they have found common ground. Kids in class get together online and play games and the nerds often win. Back in my day you got your ass handed to you if you played games. A cultural divide has been mended.
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When it gets down to it, the big question is WHY.

When online gaming becomes an obligation instead of a pleasure, it's not good. Imagine sacrificing significant amounts of time doing something pointless to raise an fictious integer up a little or group gaming with a group of addicted 12 year olds. My willpower isn't the strongest, so I cannot afford to play online.

Another test is whether it is energising or tiring.
I arrogantly thought my passion for more cerebral and/or challenging games made me superior to those who played shoot'emups. But they returned back to real world work energised and I spent my mental energy on something meaningless. Energy is often more important than time for mentally taxing work.

That's not to say games are bad, it's usually better than mindless browsing or television watching and is comparable to actively reading something fictional. When I visit Redania or Skyrim for a few hours, I feel happier and less stressed.
(07-03-2019 06:21 AM)gework Wrote:  The above poster is correct. Games simulate various achievements, but leave you with the negative of lost time. It's like a loop where the lack of real achievement drives people into the game world more. I cannot believe that any gamers are not severley depressed and can't admit to themselves how bad gaming is. It's too much of an injury to see how much time you've wasted and what a lower you are. Easier to disappear into the game world.

This is a great point, you turn on a game, put in the time to level up... save the kingdom, and you become a bigger and bigger hero. You matter, you have power and agency. Then you press exit and it all fades away, gone, alone and insignificant in your cramped bedroom... until you launch again and press play and magic away the self-loathing for a few hours.

I usually game when I'm too tired to do anything else. I do my studying on one computer, and my gaming on another. To game, I'd need to unplug and transfer over my screen and all my periphrals... a brief barrier but effective barrier that gives me time for my willpower to return.
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(07-03-2019 06:21 AM)gework Wrote:  ...
The above poster is correct. Games simulate various achievements, but leave you with the negative of lost time. It's like a loop where the lack of real achievement drives people into the game world more. I cannot believe that any gamers are not severley depressed and can't admit to themselves how bad gaming is. It's too much of an injury to see how much time you've wasted and what a lower you are. Easier to disappear into the game world...

Sounds to me like another case of someone projecting their own experiences and emotions onto everyone else.
Lots of things in life can be overused and lead to dark emotions for people who for one reason or another are prone to addiction or depression.
But quite a lot of us are not actually like that and are perfectly capable of living balanced lives where a few hours of video games here and there - even if it's on a regular basis - are just a way to relax and temporarily enjoy imaginary worlds (I'm going to assume you don't inherently have a problem with those, otherwise we're at the book burning stage), before we get back to work, gym, reading, girlfriend(s), hiking, traveling, whatever we like to do.

If you get stuck in those imaginary and often empowering worlds you have a problem. But that's on you specifically. And certainly many others, but that still doesn't infer that everyone must be like you.
Implying that everyone who plays video games must surely be depressed and addicted to that horrible vice is almost as silly as making the blanket statement that video games lead to real world violence. It might serve as a trigger for a very tiny percentage of people, but whenever it happens it invariably seem like those people had a whole lot of much worse mental problems than video game addiction and fictional power trips, that led them to the edge before they were pushed over.
07-05-2019 08:48 AM
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RE: Playing video games over 30
(07-03-2019 04:40 AM)flyinghorse Wrote:  
(07-03-2019 03:22 AM)wwtl Wrote:  
(07-03-2019 03:04 AM)flyinghorse Wrote:  There is no difference between watching a film, reading a novel, getting drunk with friends, playing videos games - its all recreation of which non of them make you money but work to amuse you and make life that ever more fun.

There is a difference. Socializing with friends is an activity, which should be rewarding, so the resulting dopamine output is justified. Socializing with NPCs inside a video game leads to the similar results, but is entirely worthless. You brain believes you made friends, but you didn't.

Unlike passive entertainment video games produce a higher dopamine output, because they present (fake) challenges to beat. For example: Approach a virtual woman and win her over using your dialog options. Guess what: Your lizard brain can't tell that apart and believes you were successful and are going to have sex for real.

And don't get me started on making in-game money, where you can trick your brain into believing you became rich.

There is a useful scenario for screens though: If you use them to prepare for the real thing. For example: Nowadays race drivers use simulators based on video game technology to prepare for the real track. In this special case you acquire and practice abilities useful in real life afterwards.

But in most cases it's just replacing real experience with fake experience.
I'm normally a contentious bastard but you made some great points.

I'm still relaxed about people playing video games - if it makes them happy then do it.

I read a lot of novels, but I never see this as a waste as i'm entertaining myself primarily, but the latent effect is improving my vocabulary, knowledge of the world, introduced to news ideas, and so on.

Actually judging by the so called friends most people socialize with the activirty is worthless. I don't agree with you. I waste a few hours in a bar drinking, which I don't like ..the outcome is no better than if I spend the time playing a game or not. But most gammers play instead of watching TV. Avg American watches 6 hours of TV, at least the game is better for the mind.

In addition, MOST popular games today are multiplayer. My nephew plays with is cousins who live a few hours away. It makes him closer to them. In the old days only time one associated with distant cousins was family gatherings. He also plays multiplayer games with other friends /kids frm school. Traditionally after dinner kids had to watch tv and go to sleep. Adults also play games with co workers.

There are also stretegy games, like Panzer division(something like that) which is a modern version of the old tabletop games that were popular with adults. The problem was setting games up and finding people. Now they can just do it!
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(07-05-2019 09:26 AM)jimukr75 Wrote:  
(07-03-2019 04:40 AM)flyinghorse Wrote:  
(07-03-2019 03:22 AM)wwtl Wrote:  There is a difference. Socializing with friends is an activity, which should be rewarding, so the resulting dopamine output is justified. Socializing with NPCs inside a video game leads to the similar results, but is entirely worthless. You brain believes you made friends, but you didn't.

Unlike passive entertainment video games produce a higher dopamine output, because they present (fake) challenges to beat. For example: Approach a virtual woman and win her over using your dialog options. Guess what: Your lizard brain can't tell that apart and believes you were successful and are going to have sex for real.

And don't get me started on making in-game money, where you can trick your brain into believing you became rich.

There is a useful scenario for screens though: If you use them to prepare for the real thing. For example: Nowadays race drivers use simulators based on video game technology to prepare for the real track. In this special case you acquire and practice abilities useful in real life afterwards.

But in most cases it's just replacing real experience with fake experience.
I'm normally a contentious bastard but you made some great points.

I'm still relaxed about people playing video games - if it makes them happy then do it.

I read a lot of novels, but I never see this as a waste as i'm entertaining myself primarily, but the latent effect is improving my vocabulary, knowledge of the world, introduced to news ideas, and so on.

Actually judging by the so called friends most people socialize with the activirty is worthless. I don't agree with you. I waste a few hours in a bar drinking, which I don't like ..the outcome is no better than if I spend the time playing a game or not. But most gammers play instead of watching TV. Avg American watches 6 hours of TV, at least the game is better for the mind.

In addition, MOST popular games today are multiplayer. My nephew plays with is cousins who live a few hours away. It makes him closer to them. In the old days only time one associated with distant cousins was family gatherings. He also plays multiplayer games with other friends /kids frm school. Traditionally after dinner kids had to watch tv and go to sleep. Adults also play games with co workers.

There are also stretegy games, like Panzer division(something like that) which is a modern version of the old tabletop games that were popular with adults. The problem was setting games up and finding people. Now they can just do it!

Why does the brain reward real life socializing? Because having connections within the tribe is useful and increases chances of survival if SHTF. (It also increases chances of meeting potential candidates for reproduction BTW.)

The issue is replacing real life activity with screen activity, while fooling the brain into believing that you are doing worthwhile stuff. TV programming is not better nor worse than gaming: Lonely grannies watch it six hours a day and feel like the people on their shows are their friends, because they see them every day or week. (Yes the lizard brain is that dumb.) Then they stumble in their flat, die of injury and weeks or months later someone finds the smelling body. This doesn't happen to those, who show up in church each Sunday.

Also meeting your family through a screen is it's own can of worms. The brain thinks it's sufficient, so you are replacing quality time with screen time. Regarding tabletop games: They are just a socializing tool to give you something to do, not the actual purpose.

One thing important is that it is not an addiction topic: This is not about playing video games for six hours a day. Personally I'm unable to do so. I dropped an already low dose (two to seven hours per week) to zero to replace it with social time (one to two evenings per week), which improved my life by a large margin.

When I add more screen activity, the RL stuff starts becoming exhausting. However without video games I miss hanging out and enjoy that instead. So it actually matters how one spends alone time. I find that practicing musical instruments or generally doing stuff with your hands is a much better use of that time, because it doesn't cut into the budget.
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RE: Playing video games over 30
There are plenty of topics, where forum members cry, that they don´t have a time to approach girls, to workout, to start a bussines,... whatever.

When I think about how my time is short and how many things I would love to do, but I don´t have time... I can´t imagine playing a games. It´s so much waste of time and brings nothing to my life.

Honestly, when I see some adult nerds, I don´t take those people seriously. They have given up on living on their life in my eyes. They are worthless men.

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My wife is now in her mid thirties and so a lot of her friends are too. You know what this means, right? That those of them who haven't had kids are starting to wonder about them. They're all in long term, stable relationships, so you'd think it'd be a done deal by now, but the common thread in all of their situations is that their "men" are all gamers.

Fucking losers who sit there hour after hour, day after day, year after year, wasting the precious window of opportunity of the women they supposedly love. The women are no perfect angels, but they get their share of criticism. These gaming loafers are supposed to be men. They are supposed to be leading their woman forward, including through the formation of a family, but instead they'd rather sit with their joysticks in their hand, doing the same thing they've been doing since their school days.

You don't have to be a gamer to be a loser, but it helps.
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I have no ill will towards gamers. Many of them are fine people. Personally, I don't touch the stuff.

I judge a hobby by how comfortable one is talking about it with a group of strangers at a fancy dinner party/high end night club.

If a dude can talk about his gaming hobby with a straight face in this setting, more power to him. I couldn't, though.
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^^^
So you are saying that they don't have kids because they play games? Me and my wife didn't want kids and she sometimes wishes I would play more video games since she has a hobby. My brother has a kid(going to Harvard probably), they both play games together. Today couples are less likely to have children regardless if they play video games or not. I am bored playing games tbh but there is a lot of hours in the day to kill and I am wealthy (don't have to work) so it is something to do.

Funny story, I called my brother 2 days ago and he was playing Batman on PS4 and his son was playing overwatch on pc. My brother retired years ago right after I did. They have 3 houses in NYC and over 4 million in liquid assets and his wife is a workaholic school teacher who will get 100k pension if she ever retires. My brother has nothing else to do but to watch Netflix, play games while his wife works.

It isn't like we can go out and get mistresses on the side while the wives are away. But we aren't losers by societies measurement since we are RICH!

Quote:I judge a hobby by how comfortable one is talking about it with a group of strangers at a fancy dinner party/high end night club.
i DON'T consider it a hobby since there isn't much thought, preparation in it. That being said, if my wife and I are in a high end dinner we can say whatever the fuck we want because we are RICH.

When you don't depend on work to live you can pretty much say whatever the fuck you want. Everyone else is non consequential tbh..their opinions.

Quote:Because having connections within the tribe is useful and increases chances of survival if SHTF. (It also increases chances of meeting potential candidates for reproduction BTW.)
If the shit hits the fan I can survive. People will look to me for that I I will be more concerned about my family. Although I was a cop like Rick from the Walking Dead, I am more like Negan personality. You will listen or I will fuck you up.Seriously most "drinking buddies" will not help you when the shit goes bad..they are a liability IMHO.
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There have always been plenty of video game haters on this forum - usually saying, when most polite, that it's a massive waste of time that would be better spent on more productive ventures.
For people who only have a few free hours per week once work is done, I'll definitely agree, I would feel I was wasting my time too if all I did was work and video games.
But assuming some of you do have a fair amount of time to spend more or less as you please, I'm curious, do you not watch TV or movies either? Maybe you don't even read fiction? Because certainly from my point of view those are little different from video games in terms of "productivity" - and the two former more passive and thus in some regards perhaps worse (if you prefer to put a negative spin on something that's done to unwind).
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^RVF is mostly 60 hour a week wagies and most of the posts will be written from a perspective of not having that much free time.
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Personally, I don't like playing videogames but I'd rather read or go to the gym.I consider that the best thing a man can do is to invest time in hobbies which can help him to achieve his goals. For example, if you want to be successful with woman it's probably better to hit that gym or taking up some kind of sport instead of playing computer games. However, if a man enjoys playing videogames in his free time from time to time because it helps him to relax and disconnect from the world I think is totally okay as long as he doesn't over invest time on it.
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@Mike..ok..so it is based on free time? For those of us with too much time we gotta do something!
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I'd like to share my own experience with video games, as I find some people quite close minded in this thread.
Don't take it personnaly, we all have different life experiences, so I can understand where you're coming from.
Just hear me out, please.


Video games can help people grow.
I don't say they always do, but they Can.

My current self-employed work has been heavily inspired by my video game practices.
I wouldn't have gotten there, if it wasn't for video games, period.


I enjoyed playing World of Warcraft, especially using the Auction house.
Using a program (Auctioneer if I remember correctly), I gradualy became one of the best resellers of my server.
I made thousands upon thousands of credits (don't remember this game currency, maybe gold).
Buying low, selling high, understanding each product's nich and needs, twisting the program's configuration to see the results, fascinating to me.

I also played Factorio, which teached me the Huge benefits of Automation.
Why do something manually, when a machine (or 1.000) can do it for you, Faster and Better?
How much can I scale a project, beginning with a little investment, and growing exponentially using automation machines?
Going from an empty hand to a rocket ship, Fascinating experience.

Recently, I created my own enterprise, which uses automated tools, in order to resell products. And I LOVE it.
Without my enjoyment of video games, I wouldn't be there, I wouldn't have understood I enjoyed doing these activities.


But what about FPS, and other "stupid" games, which don't teach you anything?
Playing these, you'll develop your eyes / hands coordination, just trying to become better at the game.
Wether you're conscious of it or not, this is usefull in your everyday life.

OK, so how about a game which doesn't develop your skills at all?
It can still teach you patience, give you the will to learn new mechanics.
Everytime I launch a new game, I'm "forced" to learn its new rules, making me create new neural routes in my brain.
Making my brain stay young, not doing always the same things, not using the same patterns, all the time.


Maybe you'll disagree with me, and it's totally fine.
Just remember this reality is much more complex that we think, there's no black or white, and so much to learn, so much we're not even aware of not knowing.
Thinking we Know is an Ego thing, nothing else.

Have a nice day, friends.
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Over the past few years a lot of men woke up to the devastating impact that porn has on their lives. This was a painful realization for a lot of guys and is something that many (most?) men are in complete denial about. But the facts are what they are: porn is an awful drug that rewires a man's brain and robs him of fundamental aspects of his masculinity. Even more insidious, it does so while lulling him into a pleasurable stupor so that he does not even realize he has been grievously wounded, and will even lash out at anyone who attempts to separate him from the porn.

At some point people are going to recognize that as bad as porn is for men, video games are even worse. I realize that's a shocking statement, but I am confident I will be vindicated over the coming years. Video games are basically competency simulators that serve to distract men from developing skills and going after achievements in the real world in favor of quick dopamine hits for accomplishments in the virtual world. The long term effects of widespread video game playing are devastating on a societal scale, as this is literally no less than men checking out of society en masse. What happens when men don't give a shit about the real world and focus on their pixels instead? Women get out of control and foreigners take over. Sound familiar?

What's even worse is that so many boys get sucked into video games and never develop the normal skills of manhood. This is an epidemic. Video games are electronic drugs. Would you give a six year old boy heroin? Of course not. So why the hell would you give him a video game that will fry his dopamine receptors, render his attention span to zero and make him completely bored with meat space accomplishments that require actual effort, focus and discomfort to achieve?

I say all this as a guy who played video games as a kid and teenager and who still does a little bit. They're very fun and engaging. And in moderation they're fine. I'm not saying you can't be successful and have a good life while enjoying some video games. But millions of guys are not playing in moderation, and millions of young boys are frying their brains with them as we speak. It's not good. And it's only going to get worse when VR becomes the standard. We have to recognize the drug-like nature of video games, and keep them away from children especially.

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^^^All vice are bad. Even working too much and too hard. Moderation is key. Once the sex robots come out women will be easier.
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(07-06-2019 09:42 AM)Latan Wrote:  I'd like to share my own experience with video games, as I find some people quite close minded in this thread.
Don't take it personnaly, we all have different life experiences, so I can understand where you're coming from.
Just hear me out, please.


Video games can help people grow.
I don't say they always do, but they Can.

My current self-employed work has been heavily inspired by my video game practices.
I wouldn't have gotten there, if it wasn't for video games, period.


I enjoyed playing World of Warcraft, especially using the Auction house.
Using a program (Auctioneer if I remember correctly), I gradualy became one of the best resellers of my server.
I made thousands upon thousands of credits (don't remember this game currency, maybe gold).
Buying low, selling high, understanding each product's nich and needs, twisting the program's configuration to see the results, fascinating to me.

I also played Factorio, which teached me the Huge benefits of Automation.
Why do something manually, when a machine (or 1.000) can do it for you, Faster and Better?
How much can I scale a project, beginning with a little investment, and growing exponentially using automation machines?
Going from an empty hand to a rocket ship, Fascinating experience.

Recently, I created my own enterprise, which uses automated tools, in order to resell products. And I LOVE it.
Without my enjoyment of video games, I wouldn't be there, I wouldn't have understood I enjoyed doing these activities.


But what about FPS, and other "stupid" games, which don't teach you anything?
Playing these, you'll develop your eyes / hands coordination, just trying to become better at the game.
Wether you're conscious of it or not, this is usefull in your everyday life.

OK, so how about a game which doesn't develop your skills at all?
It can still teach you patience, give you the will to learn new mechanics.
Everytime I launch a new game, I'm "forced" to learn its new rules, making me create new neural routes in my brain.
Making my brain stay young, not doing always the same things, not using the same patterns, all the time.


Maybe you'll disagree with me, and it's totally fine.
Just remember this reality is much more complex that we think, there's no black or white, and so much to learn, so much we're not even aware of not knowing.
Thinking we Know is an Ego thing, nothing else.

Have a nice day, friends.

The US Army uses games to recruit. FPS and strategy games are also good for old people. The nursing homes are adding them.

I think the problem with some posters here is that they are under the belief that the video games are stopping the people playing them from going out in real world but I think it is the same people who before would just sit in their room watching tv or listening to music. They just have a third choice now. Also there is a social aspect to games. When I grew up we played stick ball on the street and rode bikes. This was in Brooklyn. Has anyone seen Brooklyn lately? There is no room to ride bikes or to play stick ball. The playgrounds are full of Mexican migrants playing hoops.

As for those over 30, life is better. As has been said in other threads most women maintain friends and most men don't. They have work chat and then are forced to socialize with wife's friends. Any one married over 30 knows the deal.
07-06-2019 11:05 AM
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RE: Playing video games over 30
Up through my early twenties I loved playing games, but now that I'm over 30 I no longer enjoy them much any more. I lack the patience to figure out more complicated RPGs and that sort of thing. I have a Switch and PS4, but barely use either of them. I just don't find games to be anywhere near as fun as I used to. I've always enjoyed reading, but nowadays I find it more fun than playing games. The vast majority of big-name, AAA titles bore me, and flashy graphics don't interest me. Doom Eternal is about the only one I'm interested in playing.

I should note, however, that I only play single-player or local multiplayer games like Mario Kart. I never enjoyed online gaming or things like MMORPGs. I have little sympathy for games like Fortnite that are simply addiction generators.
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^^^^Yeah, I don't have the patience either. Any interest I get is over in 5 minutes. But I think games were better at one point and now, like you said, have the agenda to create addictions. At our age, politics becomes important and financial stuff and many over 30 spend time with that.
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(07-06-2019 01:02 PM)jimukr75 Wrote:  ^^^^Yeah, I don't have the patience either. Any interest I get is over in 5 minutes. But I think games were better at one point and now, like you said, have the agenda to create addictions. At our age, politics becomes important and financial stuff and many over 30 spend time with that.

Well i agree about finances being important, but let's not get carried away with politics. Maybe local politics there is some choice, but the bigger leagues like the president, you have no choice. Your vote is nothing but a popularity contest. The electoral college chooses.

Some people like reading books, some like watching movies, some like keeping up with politics, some like playing games. Its all the same, just do it in moderation.
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For me, it definitely falls into the net negative category, although mileage may vary.

Gaming for me started with a Gameboy Color that I won in a contest when I was no older than 4 or 5 years old. Although if we are being technical I think I was playing PC games by 2, no later than 3. After the Gameboy, it naturally progressed into a nintendo 64. Shortly after this the 64 went obsolete, so I went back to the PC--but, by this time the PS2 had been released. I must have gotten one within the year. There was no turning back at this point. The thing was so engrossing to me in a way that the Nintendo or PC had never been. I was saving up money every month for new games and that was it. My parents were very strict about technology in the house, so I would eagerly wait for neither of them to be there, and I would go on gaming binges. They remained Nazis when they were at the house, but when they were not, I went to town.

By the time I had progressed to middle school the PS3 had been released. It was an easy choice at that point to upgrade. I was very bookish at the time, so the other hobby I had was playing the PS3, those were the two things I did with downtime. None of my friends lived near me, so a lot of it was playing with them online. The problem here is, I guess, being in Middle school I should have been more social, going out with friends, but for me and many other guys, the video games presented themselves to be a better, easier alternative. There's not much that parallels the feeling that you get in COD when you pull off a headshot with a sniper rifle, or defuse the bomb in search in destroy, etc.

I should also say I was pretty big into Ruinscape for several years, and that ended when I got in trouble at school for visiting a ruinscape fansite; pretty lame, I know. For me there was just something mind-boggling about being on a server of 2000 people from all over the world playing simultaneously and constructing an online identity.

By the time I was ending middle school I had really gotten into COD. Any free time I had was allocated to gaming. My parents were yelling at me in the middle of the night that I could not stay up all night playing video games. In high school i took off some time from gaming and never started again. Looking in the mirror now, I can recognize that I never went back because I knew how much time was wasted. I don't have any games any more. For some people they can moderate, while others can not. It especially irks me guys in their early 20s who have their whole lives ahead of them, should be in top physical condition, chasing tail, putting in hours at work stacking cash, put instead are gaming. Or who could be drinking at bars meeting people and developing skills. I look at a good portion of gamers as being equivalent to heroin addicts. They are pitiful human beings who don't even have the self-awareness to realize how pathetic their habit looks. Their whole life implodes around them, or perhaps fails to ever take off, but that is ok, just as long as they have their vidya.

It's rather funny, I still remember the feeling or high that video games gave me. It's a lightness in the chest, my brain racing, and then finally a dopamine release--and most damning that sense of accomplishment. Since quitting gaming, I have sought out the feeling again and again. Competitive sports, physical sparring, adventure sports, drinking, smoking, women. I will tell you that while all these pursuits give you the same feeling, the only one that really makes you feel empty is gaming (and of course the other obvious culprit, porn). I shudder to think of how damning VR and VR porn will be to this upcoming generation. Gaming channels the most productive male urges, makes you feel like you've done something, but in reality you've done nothing. You're empty.
07-07-2019 03:35 AM
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(07-07-2019 03:35 AM)Lost in Transfiguration Wrote:  By the time I had progressed to middle school the PS3 had been released. It was an easy choice at that point to upgrade. I was very bookish at the time, so the other hobby I had was playing the PS3, those were the two things I did with downtime. None of my friends lived near me, so a lot of it was playing with them online. The problem here is, I guess, being in Middle school I should have been more social, going out with friends, but for me and many other guys, the video games presented themselves to be a better, easier alternative. There's not much that parallels the feeling that you get in COD when you pull off a headshot with a sniper rifle, or defuse the bomb in search in destroy, etc.

Something I just found out recently after getting reborn in Christ was that video games cut into my limited budget of "social time". If I waste it on video games, my social game suffers heavily.

Quote:It's rather funny, I still remember the feeling or high that video games gave me. It's a lightness in the chest, my brain racing, and then finally a dopamine release--and most damning that sense of accomplishment. Since quitting gaming, I have sought out the feeling again and again. Competitive sports, physical sparring, adventure sports, drinking, smoking, women. I will tell you that while all these pursuits give you the same feeling, the only one that really makes you feel empty is gaming (and of course the other obvious culprit, porn). I shudder to think of how damning VR and VR porn will be to this upcoming generation. Gaming channels the most productive male urges, makes you feel like you've done something, but in reality you've done nothing. You're empty.

As with any drug at some point you become numb. Then you increase the dose using VR until it doesn't flash you anymore as well. Then you become depressed and start thinking about suicide.

I always used video games "in moderation" (few hours per week), yet I got pretty attached to my "collection", but I just made the choice to uninstall everything from my PC and consoles. When I'm finished I will check if it feels like a relief or like a mistake. I'm already looking forward to Terabytes of free hard drive space.
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