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(09-04-2019 08:47 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  https://flight-data.adsbexchange.com/act...cao=A0547F

Click on July 23.

Notice anything weird?

Not only is the plane still in use, but The plane went to ANTARCTICA

What in the hell?

And why did it make a trip to the Cayman Islands just 2 days ago?
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(09-01-2019 01:22 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  
(08-29-2019 03:18 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  There is zero track record of his trading abilities - most famous Hedge Fund managers have a massive proven track record. Also his hedge fund was bonkers with a minimum investment sum of 1 bio. $!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/10/busin...worth.html

Even the bloody NYTimes doubts the entire operation.

The NYT wants a story. And since when do you trust them, of all sources? Private means just that, private. NYT can't (or won't) find out? Not surprising.

There are many like him you never hear about - there is no duty to report shit if he isn't serving the general public. Anyone who understands how private traders operate knows this - you would have a tough time even identifying all of them as they are not even allowed to advertise. Epstein was not one of the top 25 traders, but even then:

The average hedge fund trader earned 8.5%.
The top? 27%
Epstein's personal net worth was "only" 1 billion.
His assets under management - other people's money - was way more than that.
But assuming he "only" had 1 billion AUM, just sitting in a bank at 8.5% would be 6.8 million *in one month*

Of course, he can't get that sitting in a bank, but if he's just an average private trader at that level of skill, he can make it.

I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Do some math & see.

I have no issue with him having made 500 - 1 bio. $ as a high-end fund manager. That kind of income and assets is not difficult to attain. The top 1000 easily make tens of millions of dollars each - if not 100 mio. $+.

I just voiced doubts regarding his real achievements. However if his mathematical talents were truly as high as reported, then it is possible if he went into options value calculations in the 1970s. Though some of the story still sounds too fishy to me especially with the hedge fund that was insane and traders who were x-times better never asked for 1 bio. $ minimum investment. In reality most funds at proven fantastic returns would have been long since closed as it becomes increasingly difficult to operate with tens or hundreds of billions. The real top traders generally have their funds closed after some time and they are not taking any new investors.

There are a few trading models which can stomach far greater amounts, but then he would have to be working 100 hours per week. My doubts are relating to Epstein personally of whether he really had the time and put in the necessary work-load in the 1990s and 2000s when he already was knee-deep in teen pussy and hobnobbed with thousands of politicians, scientists, managers.

There are plenty of private traders who have stunning returns and reach even 100 mio. $+ relatively easily. However operating with tens of billions like he did is something else altogether. You can forget about most options-based trades in that respect. The work-load also increases tremendously - you have to hire huge teams and I doubt that he did any quant systems starting back in the day.

What is however possible is that he did simple basic investment and was just given billions by globalist investors who knew that they would get average returns. One of his clients invested 6.7 bio. $ alone, so it's very much possible that it was just an investment venue - clients would be provided to Epstein through his high connections and less through his real investment ability. I really have trouble believing in the story of him being a trading maverick juggling with tens of billions while spending so much incredible time in the hedostinic lifestyle. That does not make sense.

Not that he couldn't make hundreds of billions via fees at this level. That is no biggie and 500 mio. $ net assets means that he spent a lot as well.

And frankly my assessment makes much more sense - globalists parking their cash with Epstein, getting average or slightly sub-average returns that could be even the result of funneling the cash to other funds, then his main job being the extra activities he did for secret services & co.
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Quote:I have no issue with him having made 500 - 1 bio. $ as a high-end fund manager. That kind of income and assets is not difficult to attain. The top 1000 easily make tens of millions of dollars each - if not 100 mio. $+.

Emphasis bolded.

The guys who are making that much are guys at Apollo, Blackrock, etc.

NOT funds with a total of one front-office person and one client.
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(09-04-2019 02:17 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  
Quote:I have no issue with him having made 500 - 1 bio. $ as a high-end fund manager. That kind of income and assets is not difficult to attain. The top 1000 easily make tens of millions of dollars each - if not 100 mio. $+.

Emphasis bolded.

The guys who are making that much are guys at Apollo, Blackrock, etc.

NOT funds with a total of one front-office person and one client.

Well - not if their "fund" is just a middle-man putting all the cash into an index fund or low-risk bond fund. That would take care of funding for his real job. And even if he had only 10 bio. $ under management - the fees would have been enough to generate hundreds of millions over decades.
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Exactly what I'm getting at.

The "official story" is bull.
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Another interview with journalist Whitney Webb. Goes pretty deep if you want the facts without having to wade through the multi-part article.

https://soundcloud.com/media-roots/epste...itney-webb

I am in the middle of it, and this story is a conspiracy theorists wet dream. It all goes back further into history than you would think and gives the lie to basic ideas of democracy. The group behind Epstein make a mockery of democracy. Essentially it all started with the bootleggers in the 20's who already had bugged rooms and blackmail parties (Young boys and homo behavior back then.) to pressure politicians to let them run their rum.

They were hooked in to the mobsters who got some dirt on Hoover, and when William Donovan wanted to turn the OSS into the CIA, which Hoover didn't want, Donovan went to the mob to get the blackmail on Hoover which gave Hoover an idea, so he took the mob blackmail idea mainstream.

This is all connected to all sorts of crimes, money laundering, child trafficking, drug sales, weapon sales, basically any lucrative thing that the mob used to do. Blackmailers like Epstein were small cogs in a larger machine for applying pressure to powerful public figures and not much else.

This was all tied in to organized crime, mostly Jewish, and many businessmen, often Jews too.

Later on there was a kid named Roy Cohn, lawyer, who was the bull dog in McCarthy's red scare, who went on to bug a room at the Plaza hotel, and went on to help Reagan get elected, was Trump's mentor, and also had ties to media, and could get any story he wanted killed.

All of this, all of it, is just a slow takeover of the truly horrible crimes from the mob to the hidden elites and their descendants.

One of the first boot leggers was Bronfman, and he was linked up with another one named Rosensteil, who had the blackmail parties in the first place.

A few generations later you have descendents of Bronfman funding their own blackmail operation, NXIVM.

I am only half way through this interview, and what has been covered is damning enough. This is like evil Bond villain stuff, only a smart Bond villain, one who keeps his mouth shut, doesn't care who he hurts, and seeks power at any price.

This girl Webb has done a great job. She has covered everything and more that you could imagine. NGOs, philanthropists, any organization can be a front for these people.

The only thing she has left out is the Satanism, but you can't have everything.

She has referred to some of the Jews as 'ethno-philanthropists,' which might be a good moniker for the tribe in general.

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(09-04-2019 05:31 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Another interview with journalist Whitney Webb. Goes pretty deep if you want the facts without having to wade through the multi-part article.

https://soundcloud.com/media-roots/epste...itney-webb

I am in the middle of it, and this story is a conspiracy theorists wet dream. It all goes back further into history than you would think and gives the lie to basic ideas of democracy. The group behind Epstein make a mockery of democracy. Essentially it all started with the bootleggers in the 20's who already had bugged rooms and blackmail parties (Young boys and homo behavior back then.) to pressure politicians to let them run their rum.

They were hooked in to the mobsters who got some dirt on Hoover, and when William Donovan wanted to turn the OSS into the CIA, which Hoover didn't want, Donovan went to the mob to get the blackmail on Hoover which gave Hoover an idea, so he took the mob blackmail idea mainstream.

This is all connected to all sorts of crimes, money laundering, child trafficking, drug sales, weapon sales, basically any lucrative thing that the mob used to do. Blackmailers like Epstein were small cogs in a larger machine for applying pressure to powerful public figures and not much else.

This was all tied in to organized crime, mostly Jewish, and many businessmen, often Jews too.

Later on there was a kid named Roy Cohn, lawyer, who was the bull dog in McCarthy's red scare, who went on to bug a room at the Plaza hotel, and went on to help Reagan get elected, was Trump's mentor, and also had ties to media, and could get any story he wanted killed.

All of this, all of it, is just a slow takeover of the truly horrible crimes from the mob to the hidden elites and their descendants.

One of the first boot leggers was Bronfman, and he was linked up with another one named Rosensteil, who had the blackmail parties in the first place.

A few generations later you have descendents of Bronfman funding their own blackmail operation, NXIVM.

I am only half way through this interview, and what has been covered is damning enough. This is like evil Bond villain stuff, only a smart Bond villain, one who keeps his mouth shut, doesn't care who he hurts, and seeks power at any price.

This girl Webb has done a great job. She has covered everything and more that you could imagine. NGOs, philanthropists, any organization can be a front for these people.

The only thing she has left out is the Satanism, but you can't have everything.

She has referred to some of the Jews as 'ethno-philanthropists,' which might be a good moniker for the tribe in general.

It makes perfect sense to me. Someone mentioned earlier that the JFK assassination was the real coup, which I pointed out as ridiculous. The Kennedy coven has always been central to the nation's cultural decline.

The whole Kennedy family fortune was based on bootlegging, the black market, and racketeering -- which fits perfectly with that history cited by journalist Whitney Webb. Joe Kennedy was a smart sociopathic criminal who then worked like a maniac to buy power at all levels and eventually the presidency.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-73614...pid2009552


The one thing that I would add, which is missing from the analysis set forth above, is that there are a number of competing interests and shifting loyalties and coalitions at the top of the power structure, much like a Game of Thrones-type reality. There is no one person, or even group, to blame.

I think that is where most people make a big mistake in their thinking. There is no grand conspiracy or plan, but more of an agreed consensus by a multitude of associated groups to break down the family unit and social mores, disarm the populace, depopulate the planet, and do anything else that helps to exert control by subtle forms of socialist control. In that respect, the people who claim that the Bilderbergers / Davos crowd are the part of the conspiracy that can be seen may be correct (or at least where some portion of the The Club can be seen). What better place to hide than at high profile events where only 5%-10% of those who attend are part of The Club, but who mingle with many other world leaders and major business titans?

As the world and the various world cultures coarsen, so do the players at the top. At the same time, as the world becomes more complex, so do the number of opportunities for mistakes, because these people are true believers (even if only in themselves and their capabilities) -- and fundamental beliefs can be quite wrong. That is where we have a chance.
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What a disgusting joke this Epstein thing is. Cameras happen to be off, guards happen to be gone, none of the women are arrested, the FBI raids the island after they've been busy bees doing heaven knows what construction there, etc. If Trump isn't involved, then he's been railroaded. Oh, and the case is closed with Jeffrey's untimely passing.

The consolation is that what's done in the dark will one day be brought to the light.
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(09-04-2019 08:31 PM)Athanasius Wrote:  What a disgusting joke this Epstein thing is. Cameras happen to be off, guards happen to be gone, none of the women are arrested, the FBI raids the island after they've been busy bees doing heaven knows what construction there, etc. If Trump isn't involved, then he's been railroaded. Oh, and the case is closed with Jeffrey's untimely passing.

The consolation is that what's done in the dark will one day be brought to the light.


None of this would have left the realm of conspiracy theory had Haggard Hillary won.
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(09-04-2019 05:31 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Another interview with journalist Whitney Webb. Goes pretty deep if you want the facts without having to wade through the multi-part article.

https://soundcloud.com/media-roots/epste...itney-webb

I am in the middle of it, and this story is a conspiracy theorists wet dream. It all goes back further into history than you would think and gives the lie to basic ideas of democracy. The group behind Epstein make a mockery of democracy. Essentially it all started with the bootleggers in the 20's who already had bugged rooms and blackmail parties (Young boys and homo behavior back then.) to pressure politicians to let them run their rum.

...

This is all connected to all sorts of crimes, money laundering, child trafficking, drug sales, weapon sales, basically any lucrative thing that the mob used to do. Blackmailers like Epstein were small cogs in a larger machine for applying pressure to powerful public figures and not much else.

...

I am only half way through this interview, and what has been covered is damning enough. This is like evil Bond villain stuff, only a smart Bond villain, one who keeps his mouth shut, doesn't care who he hurts, and seeks power at any price.

...


Good catch with that.

I listened to the podcast last night going to sleep but kind of drifted in and out.

a conspiracy theorists wet dream

Except it's no dream. It's a provable, demonstrable conspiracy of epic proportions. From the dark lords that ordered the hit, all the way down the ladder to the prison guards that fell asleep. The prison governor and the actual hitman et al being somewhere in the middle. We'll never know. Just like we'll never know who really killed JFK or Diana or who did 911. Lots of 'theories' but no hard 'facts'.



(09-04-2019 06:23 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  ...

It makes perfect sense to me. Someone mentioned earlier that the JFK assassination was the real coup, which I pointed out as ridiculous. The Kennedy coven has always been central to the nation's cultural decline.

...


The one thing that I would add, which is missing from the analysis set forth above, is that there are a number of competing interests and shifting loyalties and coalitions at the top of the power structure, much like a Game of Thrones-type reality. There is no one person, or even group, to blame.

I think that is where most people make a big mistake in their thinking. There is no grand conspiracy or plan, but more of an agreed consensus by a multitude of associated groups to break down the family unit and social mores, disarm the populace, depopulate the planet, and do anything else that helps to exert control by subtle forms of socialist control. In that respect, the people who claim that the Bilderbergers / Davos crowd are the part of the conspiracy that can be seen may be correct (or at least where some portion of the The Club can be seen). What better place to hide than at high profile events where only 5%-10% of those who attend are part of The Club, but who mingle with many other world leaders and major business titans?

As the world and the various world cultures coarsen, so do the players at the top. At the same time, as the world becomes more complex, so do the number of opportunities for mistakes

...


This.

It makes perfect sense to me.

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there are a number of competing interests and shifting loyalties and coalitions at the top of the power structure, much like a Game of Thrones-type reality

I mentioned in the beginning of the thread that none of this made sense apart from some kind of 'game of thrones' maneuver.

Things like this don't happen to people like epstein.

But they do happen to people who have outlived their usefulness. To people who overstepped the mark. To people who have become a liability. To people who just get randomly chosen to be made an example of. Or not so randomly chosen. Perhaps.

This whole game works on so many levels. It's beautiful. I too have come to respect our dark overlords. Someone mentioned 'antifragility' and this is the very embodiment of it. Every extra hammer blow to the 'system' somehow only strengthens it, even if only in the long run, in the long game being played.


And like you pointed out DBG and with that podcast too, this has been a long game. Ever since the dawn of technology, man has been blackmailing man, for fun, for profit.

Before the invention of the 'telegraph' and the ability to listen in to another man's communications (ok, I suppose some people broke those royal seals and were doing it way back when, but...) there was little to no 'leverage' to be had for the average man against the other average man. But now with wide spread tech being in existence for half a century of more (think cameras small enough and affordable enough to 'eavesdrop') that whole blackmail industry has really taken off. Hell, lot longer than half a century as that podcast pointed out.


None of this game is new to me. I figured it all out a little while back just around the turn of the century. I'd just split up with my g/f who I had serious oneitis for and the whole bottom dropped out of my world. I ended up in squat in Amsterdam looking at the moon through one eye throuh a hole in the roof. I realised that to really see something you have to remove all doubt and therefore parallax is not a good thing. So what do you need to do if you want to observe the stars and the moon and really see their position - you close one eye! Illuminati. Keep with me here.

I met a man that gave me an ecstasy pill. A Dutch Jew. A lovely charismatic man. He told me of how his family came from the 'holy land' way back, way back...

I went back up stairs to my loft and studied the stars and the moon more through the hole in the sky. One eye closed. Of course, we use parallax to study distance to the moon and the planets and the stars. To find true coordinates. To find the greatest 'perspective'. But to really 'observe' one must remove all doubt. Remove all perspective. No place for doubt here. One must 'pick a side'. The light in either eye is correct, but each give a different view, and it confuses the brain. Both are correct, but none are at the same time. So pick one! The dark or the light!

I thought of the pyramids and how the very tops of them would have been used to sight the stars, but only with one eye. Dollar bill. Illuminati.

I started a long journey that I embarked on for probably a year or more, off my nut, out of my tree, ripped to the tits. I worked it all out. Didn't take long. And when I came back, I had the 'knowledge'. I'd become an initiate. Tapping in to and becoming one with the collective unconscious, if only at a sub-conscious level, sometimes only manifesting at a conscious level, and even then, only when in an 'altered state' (hence the mind altering chemicals like LSD and Ecsacy and Weed and Alcohol and Amphetamine and Ketamine and Cocaine - they all played their part in putting the jigsaw in to place).

Hopefully that made sense. You will of course think me a little bat shit crazy, and so you should. You had to be there, man.

But it turns out I was vindicated. It's all come to light.

If nothing else, just like Trump coming in to office, this whole sorry episode in man's short existence sheds light on the dark. It's a light in the black.

It illuminates!

We'll get in to the blackmail thing in a bit. That and the true nature of power (which I've discussed previously and said I might elaborate on).


I'm just about 3/4 way through the initial 2000 pages of those released docs in the big .pdf file.

There are supposed to be more being released but 'john doe' doesn't want them to come to light so they will probably be more heavily redacted again and only the harmless and salacious points kept in like a bad (or perhaps good) Jackie Collins novel.

Starring J. Epstein as 'The Stud' and G. Maxwell as 'The Bitch'.

One thing I've realised is that Billionaire Boys Club 'novel' is more like Victoria G's memoirs. It's probably all true. If it's not, then maybe none of the rest of this is true either. Why do you draw the line with reality? Do you observe it with your left eye or your right eye?

There have been a lot of interesting names cropping up there. I mentioned Jacques Cousteau's grand daughter, which gave a good example as to the whole MO of this operation. But there are quite a few more. And it all revolves around the heady mixture of power, sex, money, violence, greed and the getting away with the perfect crime.

I don't regret reading those Jackie Collins novels now as a young lad.

More and more I can see that they were just 'memoirs' too, with names changed to protect the guilty, and the innocent.

And now that reality has been inverted and we are now in 'bizarro world' (© Justin Raimondo) - they just read like a bad J. Epstein novel.

Maxwell will be dug up to be buried soon, don't worry. It's not over yet. They wouldn't have gone to all this effort otherwise. The show has only just started. That is, if she hasn't already been buried somewhere, just like bin laden, at sea...

That is, if she 'The Bitch' and him 'The Stud' are not sunning it up on some obscure archipelago just off some Pacific reef. With an American Airforce Airstrip just mere miles away; people being renditioned, young kids being trafficked.

In the absence of facts, the mind runs riot, conspiracy theories abound.

Just like when a human undergoes sensory deprivation - could be a flotation tank or solitary confinement - it starts to see things and hear things - the prisoner's cinema.

But we already have enough 'input' to know this whole thing is a shitshow from top to bottom. It's just that we'll never know the whole details. I doubt anyone involved sees the whole 'elephant'.

This is a very impressive (dare I say 'smooth') psyop. But that is only as an 'after-thought'. Anti-fragile, like.

The primary function of this whole 'power-play' is just that. It's a game of thrones move. Either by someone to gain great power or by someone in a corner to protect everything they have.

Both of those things are the only reason anyone every blackmails someone else.

Leverage.
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Whitney Webb and MintPress News are hardly some black pilled news source reporting “truths”. The founder of MintPress is a Muslim Assad supporter and the site’s funding seems highly dubious. The site is just another liberal news rag with Muslim apologist propaganda, and of course always, West = evil. Her conspiracy angle is just more Palestinian/Muslim victimhood porn, which places all the failures of Palestine and Islam upon Western “influence” (CIA/Mossad). There is definitely some strange and shady shit going on with Epstein, but keep in mind this particular reporting is all in the name of Muslim victimhood and the left’s newfound anti-Israel stance.
https://www.minnpost.com/media/2015/11/m...ress-news/
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Leverage.

Sometimes known as 'blackmail' in less polite circles.

I mentioned Alexandra Cousteau:

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She allegedly put on a lesbian show with the Victoria G girl who sued Maxwell for defamation and won and who wrote that aforementioned memoir: Billionaire Boys Club

You can get it here:

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=downl...nsUFxrmNhs

(page 600)


Why did this other older woman (allegedly) put on a lesbian show with the young girl (Victoria G) who wrote these memoirs (and wrote them badly enough to be believable) for J Epstein?

Money. Investment.

Pimping ain't easy.


Quite a few juicy and salacious bits in there for those that don't mind looking. I guess the reason why a lot of those things have not been brought to light is because they are in image format embedded within the pdf and so can not be text-searched. People are probably bored by now as well. I know I am.

Just one example that I gave earlier (in case you missed it) - I'll give some more later when I get the time to go through my notes.

Back to leverage.

AKA blackmail.

Alexandra was not being blackmailed as such, though she certainly was being leveraged.

Synonyms for blackmail:

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One or two words included there might apply to what Alexandra did. Depending on their context.

But I'd go more for 'leverage'. Bribe. Payoff.

Maybe not even anything wrong with that. Depends again on context. Morally wrong? Legally wrong? Possibly a fine line. Probably not. But perhaps some leeway?


But with out and out blackmail, there is no leeway. It is out and out wrong.

So who was epstein blackmailing?

Prince Andrew?
G. Maxwell?
Ruler of Dubai?
Ruler of Saudi Arabia?
Alexandra Cousteau?


Some people you don't need to blackmail because they are part of the conspiracy and on your side. So of course he wasn't blackmailing G. Maxwell. And therefore I highly doubt he was blackmailing Prince Andrew what with him being an ex 'boyfriend' of sorts.

I mean, who would ever dare to blackmail a member of The Firm?

Would you attempt to blackmail the ruler of Dubai? The ruler of Saudi Arabia?

I doubt it.

There's fuck you money, and there's 'get you killed on a whim' money. These people don't maintain power because they are weak. They maintain it because they have a stasi/kgb level of network security that is enforced with ruthless brutality. Think Game of Thrones if you like. Narcos. Breaking Bad.

Some banks are too big to fail, but some people are too big to blackmail.

Prince Andrew, for example would have just been used as an unwitting pawn at best, or someone that took the benefits of the blackmail with 'agents' like epstein doing the dirty work. Backed up by his masters in Mossad of course.

It's good to have people like Andrew 'on side'. Don't forget he was besties with G. Maxwell as well. No blackmail there. Just enjoying its fruits twice removed by hucksters like epstein and maxwell. It's good to have those like Naomi Campbell as well to entice young girls in. It's a two-pronged front: One - it's the glitz and the glamour that draws the young moth to the flame. Two - it's the infrastructure and plausible deniability that they bring to the table that helps maintain the facade.

Royalty, Super models, pop stars, sports stars, F1 stars. Top business men/women. Charity workers. Presidents. Prime Ministers.

Maxwell's dad was Mossad. She will be too. So will epstein. Too many black holes as to how he got and maintained his wealth (takes time to hold on to money at that level). He had help.

So, you don't blackmail these high-level power-mongers.

So just who do you blackmail? And for what for?

Who can say. We'll never know.

You can blackmail people for all kinds of reasons, but as I just outlined, it's usually either to gain massive advantage or to avoid massive loss.

What are the rules of blackmail:

1: You only ever blackmail someone with a clear objective in mind, knowing that the likely outcome will be successful, because should you fail, the consequences will be severe.

2: You never, ever blackmail someone much more powerful than you. Unless you are so absolutely sure of the outcome, that you can do it with impunity. See rule 1. Multiply it by 10.

3: It's always better to get what you want by implication of your power level, before you outright put someone else (and yourself) on the line with bare-faced blackmail. Some call this 'leverage'. This tests the waters and sends a message. It can also be deadly. Only use this option with a weak opponent. A strong one will have you annihilated for even thinking about this.

4: Do you really want to do this? What do you have to gain? What do you have to lose? People will forgive you quicker for blackmailing them to avoid a loss, than to achieve a gain. Still, neither will forgive you and forever see you as an enemy to be eliminated. Only do this if you have much to gain or much to lose. Or if you are in such an overwhelming position of power that your victim is absolutely helpless.

5: Blackmail the weak. The vulnerable. Those that have no backup. No recourse. Those that can not fight back. Destroy them quickly or milk them slowly, the choice is yours. See rule 1. Multiply it by 100.

6: When you do end up blackmailing someone, fly solo. Blackmail is not usually a joint enterprise, and when it is, the more it is, the more dangerous a game it becomes to play. Do you really want to play this game? See rule 4.

7: Even after a successful blackmail, you will never be able to rest. That person will always have resentment and want to get their own back, or have fear and want to stop you from doing it again. Did you return the tapes/videos? Are you a man of your word? Can they count on you to never pull this same trick ever again? In the digital age the answer to that question is probably 'no'. Act accordingly.

8: When blackmailing someone, cut your losses and enjoy your wins. Get what you want from the start. Don't milk people unless you have to - that is just extortion and another game to play. A good blackmailer is like a thief in the night. They get what they want. Then they are back down that drain pipe never to be seen again or to return to the scene of their crime. This lessens the chances of retribution as well as it gives the person being blackmailed a form of closure. If you can, let the blackmailed know it is over, that you are happy, but that you can just as quickly turn the tap back on if they even so much think about retribution.

9: If you do blackmail someone, try if you can to contain the fallout. This may not always be practical, but where possible, it should be considered. Blackmailing a man so he loses his house and all his finances will have a knock on effect. You may not care about this, but it may cause problems for you down the line and draw in other enemies. Milk the person carefully. It is one thing to take the resources for that rich person's next super car, another to take the family home so he loses his family. An exception would be Tony Blair, a man so obviously blackmailed to go to war with an entire nation, costing millions of lives and the lives of the good men and soldiers of his own nation - everyone knew he had been got to - but whatever it was they got on him, it was effective. See rule 1.

10: Once you do get in to the blackmail game, keep a bit of dirt on everyone you know. Even the mailman. You never know when it will come in handy. You never know who is checking your mail. It takes a cheeky bugger to break the Royal Seal, but some people are cheeky. People aren't blind and people aren't stupid. Any good blackmailer worth his salt knows this. People will become more sheltered around you, facts will be harder to glean. Also, the hunter may become the hunted. Are you so pure as the driven snow yourself? Maybe it's time for you to bury those skeletons that you have in your closet?



Off the top of my head.


Even people holding 'stuff' back in safes about the Haiti thing got them robbed. Even though they were only being used as a 'fallback', others did not want them out there at all. Sometimes you don't even need to threaten people. You just have to have the dirt hidden somewhere. They will find it. (you know that story, right?)

Blackmail is a dirty business. When you get in, you can't get out.

Epstein was up to his neck in it.

But he wasn't alone. And that complicated things.

Enough for one of the real movers and shakers to make a real move against him. No matter how much it shook the sleeping narrative. All this was worth it somewhere to someone. To some people.

Now people are more agitated than ever. Made to feel powerless in one of the smoothest psyops ever. Secondary fallout. But desirable to the overall outcome to the wider, longer game.

We are fucking amateurs. Mere cattle.

But the truth is out there. It's just that we will ever know what the fuck it is. Get used to that. Accept it. Find a way to work around it.

One day the rain's gonna come and wash all the scum off the streets...
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Personally, I think the whole blackmail thing is just a bridge too far in the fantasist's handbook.

I outlined my top 10 rules for blackmail off the top of my head, but I could have picked 10 other arbitrary ones. The point I was making is blackmail is hard. It takes a certain pre-meditated psychopathic mindset.

But we all know it goes on. We all know it was the name of the game in this particular operation with epstein and maxwell et al.

When you have friendly people in a certain space and they all feel comfortable it is nothing to whip out a video camera, especially in this day and age. And even in the day and ages of yore it was a novelty that people took more as an innocent thing rather than a threat. Novelty vs. ubiquity.

In fact I think it was maxwell herself who started filming people iirc, but it may have been someone else who got told to put the camera away.

It only takes a second to catch someone in a compromising position.

I mentioned before about being to some parties like this. But it was all on a much smaller and quieter level. Still, there were some pretty powerful people there, mixed in with some not very powerful people.

Most people will do just about anything for money. So if you ask them to do something not so bad for a lot of money, they will pretty much do it, to a man (or woman). Women more, actually, but we already know that.

I've got footage that could probably destroy whole families. I've got stuff that could probably get me a bit of money. Stuff that would almost certainly get me certain sexual favours. Should I ever delve in to the dark dirty world of blackmail.

But I know others have even more footage again. Why don't they use it?

It takes a certain kind of person to blackmail another. As I said, you only really do this for great advantage (at great risk) or out of great desperation to protect.

I remember saying to a couple of the girls and women who had boyfriends who used to frequent these parties, usually when their guards were down: wonder what your boyfriend/husband would say if he saw this video eh?

I said it out of innocence. But I saw their faces freeze as they realised just what they had done and how there was a record of it and how that might be used against them later at a future date. For fun, or for profit.

I thought about it a bit and I never made the 'joke' again. I never got to experience that world after that, and really that whole world was quickly closed off to me. But it was a taste. A microcosm of what epstein et al got up to.

The really powerful people, the C level execs, let's say, never said 'oh my name is such and such and I am a C level exec at such and such fortune 500 company'. Not that they were actually C level execs or even fortune 500 - they might as well have been Japanese corps. they worked for. I've said too much. But you get the gist.

Toshiba. Panasonic. Matsushita.

Oh, I'm a Police Woman. Oh, I'm an International Corporate Lawyer.

These women obviously had power. As did their husbands.

But the girls polishing their riding boots, obviously did not. Totally different personality types anyway.

Epstein was cheap, and he liked to live out at the edge. He thought he was untouchable. Like Escobar.

It's surprising what you can get away with if you are discrete, though.

These high-powered women could have easily blackmailed these other lowly women; cameras about, video about. But why? No need at all. They had all they wanted.

And the other less powerful girls could have easily blackmailed the other more powerful women. But could they? Not really. Did they have access to the photos, the videos? Not really.

Besides, they did not know who these women really were.

Were they really police women, or judges, or barristers, or fashion moguls? They had no idea. And that was how it was supposed to be. So no blackmail.

Neither party had reason or cause to blackmail the other according to my quickly knocked up top 10 rules of blackmail, anyway.



I did have a 'friend' once. You've heard me talk about him before. He's the one in wipo for wiping out a crack dealer's supply then to get out of paying, dobbing him in so he does hard time. Yeah, contracts...

The guy was a prick. Great looking, great body, very intelligent. But a fucking mid-wit, not clever enough to see that there were those a lot cleverer than him.

He told me a story about how he seduced the next door neigbour of a house he moved in to. A married woman. And then he fucked her on her kitchen table while her husband was out. His best mate too (who I knew). As his best mate is fucking her on the family table while hubby is out, he whips out his instamatic and takes a few for prosperity.

Yeah right. Who knows if it's true. Might be fantasy island. But then again, who'd have ever imagined he would fuck over the biggest crack dealer in the area and have to move out of town with his mum having to sell her house to go with him? Not really plausible is it?

So he gets the shots developed, or maybe they were polaroids, who knows, then this next door neigbour becomes him and his best mate's sex slave for the duration. Probably fantasy island, like I say, but...

What can you do? When you're there splayed out on the family table, kids and hubby not home from school/work yet, and you are getting rogered sideways by the new next door neigbour?

Pretty hard explaining that one to the spouse when there are photos and all.

The camera never lies!


I'm not proud of any of this. I see it as part of the necessary learning curve to me becoming the man I am today. Not much, I know, but I can hold my head up and look at my face in the mirror. I am not bragging, or humble-bragging. I'm just putting this out there as 'fair use'.



The few girls I got to meet and do some parties with all pretty much signed NDA's. But nothing very much went on anyway. It was very mild. But that was their thing. That is how they got away with it. That was enough for them. It was almost the perfect crime. No sex. No nudity. But... latex maids outfits and yes, polishing mistress's boots. 500 quid. A fortnight's rent.

Every now and again I still get an email asking if there is any work going. Got one the other day. New selfies as well. The gift that just keeps on giving. Living the fucking dream.

I'm being flippant.

I was an outsider. A bystander. My g/f at the time was the in, what with all her fashion design stuff and connections. Being good at computers and tech also helped on my part as well. That and also having quite a good way with words and with networks to get to bring new girls in.

I knew a Polish woman who had a cleaning company. That was gold.

Just remember that this was not p4p. These people (as I do) have a very strong disinclination against 'ladies of the night'.

Some people just want to spend time around other innocent people. Even if they aren't so innocent themselves. These people were not.

But when I would bring in Slashka or Flashka from Eastern Europe, all smiles and full of Eastern Promise, well...

The girls were always looked after. They got left better than they were found. And that is our Golden Rule, isn't it? Always leave 'em better than you find 'em. I'm proud to have maintained that. Even back then. When it was just an instinct to me.

Some girls got to make rent. Other girls got to get the fuck out of dodge from dodgy boyfriends and got new places to stay. Some particularly clever and canny girls knew what the game was and went on to bigger and better things. Some girls got to learn new languages. Some got to go to college. Some just had some fun. Some might have been a bit naughty and didn't tell their boyfriends. Some of them I still might have the tapes...

I was running my own rackets back then. My own version of game. Art projects, you know...


I never once, not even close, ever, blackmailed anyone I ever interacted with. That is my point.

And I never once, ever, saw anyone else, ever blackmail anyone else to coerce them in to doing anything they felt uncomfortable with.

But I did see people tempted by money.

Sometimes only small amounts. And sometimes very large amounts.

I've seen women bought for 50 quid and I've seen 'em bought for 5K.

Rightly or wrongly.

It's surprising what some women will do for 50 quid. And it's perhaps not so surprising what they will do for 5K.


And back to epstein the cheap jewish bastard.

A few hundred dollars here, a few hundred dollars there, pretty soon you're talking real money.

He didn't leave 'em better than he found 'em. That much is for sure.

He was an abuser. He raped girls. So did Maxwell. Read the docs. So much stuff has not been put out there in the media, that is in those files. Allegedly at least.

Either all of this is made up or at least some of it is true.

If you know what I mean.


Perhaps one day I should write my memoirs.
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The main difference between your situation and Epstein is lack of state backing.

Blackmailing someone as an individual is stupid. At that level it’s somewhat easy to take care of the problem.

If you’re being blackmailed by a state actor it’s an entirely different ballgame. In that case your opponent is just a cog in a much bigger machine; a machine that has the means to ensure you suffer the consequences of non compliance and that can easily thwart any attempt on your part to escape from that leverage.

And most importantly that person has friends you can’t reach. The individual blackmailer can ALWAY be reached. You can’t assassinate or bribe off the entire Mossad...except by doing as you are told.
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Found this interesting interview
Ryan Dawson goes a bit autistic on stuff but walks through Trumps beef with Epstein @36.13 quite nicely
I don't know who Sam Tripoli is but he seems pretty red pilled
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(09-05-2019 09:27 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  The main difference between your situation and Epstein is lack of state backing.

Blackmailing someone as an individual is stupid. At that level it’s somewhat easy to take care of the problem.

If you’re being blackmailed by a state actor it’s an entirely different ballgame. In that case your opponent is just a cog in a much bigger machine; a machine that has the means to ensure you suffer the consequences of non compliance and that can easily thwart any attempt on your part to escape from that leverage.

And most importantly that person has friends you can’t reach. The individual blackmailer can ALWAY be reached. You can’t assassinate or bribe off the entire Mossad...except by doing as you are told.


Jesus fucking christ, why do I bother?

This was my exact fucking point.

But you put it in such a contrapuntal way.

Infuriating.

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If this shit kind of shit carries on I'm going to post gay nun porn and never ever post on this 'website' ever again.

To be clear.
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Breath deeply, Rigs.

Serenity now!

I'm removing my like from EasyC's post to calm the waters. I'm sure he'll understand.

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(09-06-2019 12:10 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Breath deeply, Rigs.

Serenity now!

I'm removing my like from EasyC's post to calm the waters. I'm sure he'll understand.


He fucking better!

Lol.

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Not being totally serious.

This is the one crazy thing about this whole situation - it's really easy to get it all 'contrapuntal' like.

None of it makes sense. It's very contradictory.

EasyC's post was pretty spot on in many ways.

Anyway, it wasn't me, it was just some people I observed. I was never a player. Just someone that got to stand by the sidelines sometimes.

I don't think it made them too happy. They were just playing about.

You kinda had to be there.
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(09-06-2019 12:10 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Breath deeply, Rigs.

Serenity now!

I'm removing my like from EasyC's post to calm the waters. I'm sure he'll understand.

P.S.

Just gave old Easy_C a like in return just to show no hard feelings.

We good.

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I've been going through the depositions that were released a few days ago:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documen...itions.pdf

There's nearly a thousand pages of them!

Dating back 10 years. It's fascinating reading (but not all in one go).

So much incriminating 'evidence' going back such a long way. There's a lot more details here about stuff we've only heard about briefly. Lots of juicey goss on Nadia M, Sara K, G Maxwell et al. - if you don't know who they are then you haven't been following this very closely. This would be a good document to get up to speed. It's a lot more concise and not as repetitive, to an extent.

It's still a load of gossip though. So much stuff thrown out there, but still with a lot of stuff proven like Epstein getting done way back for soliciting minors for prostitution.

One of the attachments (p. 792) is Epstein himself getting grilled in court. He's a cocky, obtuse fucker. Got some balls on him. His whole tone is of someone that believes himself to be innocent. Apart from pleading his ammendment rights, he keeps bringing up the fact that the law firm grilling him were shown to have fabricated and made up evidence of a sexual nature. Not heard anyone mention this. This is a major drop in all of this brouhaha, that seems to have got lost in the melee. It warrants further investigation. Epstein states this so many times and with such forcefulness and with such impunity, it definitely bears scrutiny.

He mentioned it so many times it must have some truth to it. Why has no one mentioned this? Or have I just missed it? Were the law firm prosecuting Epstein found to have fabricated evidence of a vile sexual nature against him? Someone else? It's not clear. But it sounds like they got caught making some stuff up about someone. The Judge does not intervene. The protests by the said Prosecutor are very lame and pale. This was the biggest take-out so far from these docs.

He replies at length about his amendment rights, quite obviously stalling and draining the life out of everyone in the court, and yet he gets away with it. The prosecutor doesn't like it, but he's been so run around in rings by Epstein that he's almost a gibbering twat in parts. Hard to see how the Judge allowed that. But I'm not a legal man or familiar with American justice at all.

Epstein really does take the piss in parts. He's actually cleverer than the Prosecutor, or so it comes across. Old Jeffers is having a bit of a laugh with him, m8!

I was almost believing him myself by the end of it, to the point of nearly rooting for him and getting some JEFFREY EPSTEIN DID NOTHING WRONG t-shirts printed up.

But I had just read his pitch in the Virgin Islands for some kind of bio-tech startup he was pushing. He came across as some kind of 'Axe' like tech mogul (think 'Billions') with his enthusiasm and his wide knowledge of the field. To a superficial extent anyway. A lot of what he is pushing has probably come to light now anyway (bespoke individual medical diagnoses via algorithmic detection by AI and Machine Learning - pushing certain drugs with least side-effects and most likely positive prognosis).

He was a very compelling speaker. I almost warmed to the old rapist. Again, to the point of wondering is this the same man? I could see why he got his way a lot. Very persuasive. Not only could his money buy him just about anything; but that, coupled with the fact he could put an interesting spin on just about anything, I could see why he would have won friends and influenced people in high places.

People like Bill Gates.

His knowledge of DNA sequencing seems sound. If he is bullshiting, he is bullshiting to a knowledgeable audience, so I assume he had some strength in depth in these areas.


I actually enjoyed reading his pitch and forgot at one point who I was 'listening' to. It was very plausible.

Being a kind of auto-didact and 'generalist' and multidisciplinarian, I can see how he might have conceivably built up that cash empire of his.

That and his cocky, arrogant attitude which I suppose anyone needs at that level.

The way he keeps interrupting court proceedings for toilet breaks and drinks of water and fucking candy! Can you believe it?

He does not sound like a man that is being hunted. He sounds like a man that is going through certain formalities and is annoyed by the whole charade of it all. This is from 10 years ago remember, so he hadn't been locked up yet.

I feel like I saw a different side to old Jeffrey Eggstein!

It made me wonder...

Now that he can't answer to anyone, is any of this real? I mean, sure it must be, right? But how much of it? Is there any gray area for nuance here? It's inconceivable that he didn't commit some of the crimes he's been accused of, and that's bad enough, but...

We will never get to hear Epstein's side of things now.

He would have made a formidable oponent that is for sure, whether plea-bargaining for a better outcome or just fighting dirty and protecting his corner. He would not have gone gently in to that good night.

And he did not go gently in to that good night.

He did not kill himself. That is the only thing I'm certain of here. He had everything to fight for. Jeffrey Epstein was first and foremost an optimist - you only have to read his pitches given that I alluded to earlier to pick up on that. And secondly, he was a fighter. Not a quitter. He really believed in a better way for humanity, that that way was achievable by modern day and soon to come future technology. Whether this was a vision borne out of altruism for said greater humanity, or just his resulting 'bottom-line' well...

I feel as if I've got to know the man a little better here. And he, like most men, is full of his own contradictions.

It still wouldn't surprise me though if all the nefarious stuff about him was true. But somehow, I'm not seeing him as a baby-skinning, toddler-torturing, child-eating beast. I may be wrong.

Epstein had his pursuits. I mean his academic and scientific pursuits. Yeah, he also had his 'biological' pursuits as well, if you know what I mean, but...

We don't get much more information here in these depositions and other recently released documents. But we get confirmation about many things and many people.

Nadia M and Sara K played a major major part in this. They say they will face the music, that the deals done could be nulled and they might still face 'justice'. We will see. I doubt it. By this point I'm even doubting my predictions that G. Maxwell will still appear. I thought she would have popped her head up by now. But no, apart from that recentish cheap psy-op, crickets.

Shaun Attwood said he's been to her two residences in London and will be doing follow on videos about that. He says he has sources that say there is whole lot more to come out about this, including with Prince Andrew. Again, we will see. His recent shitshow with Jon Wedger (so called whistle blower) has made him lose massive credibility. Wedger is a proven shill and bullshitter that piggy-backs off the back of CSA to make a quick buck. He's scum basically. For another day with that one.

You can find the bio-tech pitch in the Virgin Islands on that document cloud site I linked to earlier. I didn't save the link as it was just a small portion of the document with other people pitching as well.


This whole thing has been out in the open for the last 10 years and sooner, but only now does it all get blown out of the water.

The illuminated ones have played another blinder here, I've got to hand it to them. We are now exiting the news cycle with old Epstein, and in the vacuum will come the even crazier 'conspiracy' theories.

Quite obviously, this was a conspiracy of epic proportions.

We just don't know between who.

We probably never will.



Posted 18 years to the day two jet planes crashed in to two of the biggest steel-structured buildings in America, and brought them crashing down, even the ones a few blocks away like WTC-7 that had not been hit. Reported in the news half an hour before it happened as well.

There will be no justice. And in a hundred years after the next great asteroid strike and/or resulting tsunami, no one will even know these things took place. Let alone question who 'did' them.

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I gained a new found respect for Jeffrey Epstein after reading these documents. Which I would have thought impossible before. He most likely was a child-interfering scum-bucket, and a man of low moral character, and a man that did deserve to be punished, but now, we will never know, exactly how much.

I would have loved to have seen him fighting his corner. Sticking it to the pricks. Because if he was guilty then so were a thousand others. And boy, wouldn't old Jeffers have taken the whole lot down with him if he could have. The man was a scrapper. A cocky social climber who it turns out, probably did have something to offer humanity in some small way at least.

Epstein probably did fight his corner in his last and most final moments.

Only he and a handful of other people will ever really know how that one went.

And possibly God.


If you are looking for salacious tidbits and more juicey gossip, those 10 year old depositions have it all. But they don't really offer anything new. Probably why they have been released. There's still some interesting bits redacted. But some of the redacted stuff is easy to work out like people being referred to as V (as in the US state). Virginia Roberts' name for some reason has been blacked out when it's quite easy to reverse engineer it's her via basic exegesis.


I doubt we will get to see the release of the remaining documents now. This has been memory-holed, pretty much.

And now more than ever, would be the really ideal time for a public outrage or false-flag.

Just like 9/11...


It wasn't just Jeffrey Epstein's victims cheated from having justice, it was J. Epstein himself. And wider society as a whole, far more than that again.

Boy, some of those women get a grilling in those documents, and boy do they sound super-pissed off.

Never mind Mossad and blackmail operations (I am doubting this more than ever now, which means, at least a little bit - it probably still happened), the sheer amount of MO provided here is enough, at least, to 'hang' all those close associates like Maxwell, Sarah K, Nadia M.

I imagine the drip-drop feed will continue when minor distractions are needed.
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As for the document I was just referring to:

I'll give the link to that again, as it's the most important one out of everything released so far (apart from the original 2000 page one) which I linked earlier.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/...erpts.html

This is the searchable format which is hard to read, but easy to search.

The .pdf version is here: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documen...cerpts.pdf

Which is easy to read but impossible to search (the whole pdf is an image embedded one).

Using both you can get to what you want.

There is also an index embedded in the pdf file - page 686.

So go there to check for occurrences of words like 'Kellen' - the surname of Sarah 'K'. Thailand under 'T'. It's probably easier to use the searchable document to be honest, but just so you know. Then try to find it in the pdf file for better reading comprehension (it's a lot better rendered). *


Another pro-tip when viewing a pdf file - in Firefox (prolly most browsers) there is an icon in the very uppermost left hand part of the screen (where the pdf is displayed not your browser, doh).

Click on this and it shows the menu. From here you will get a small screenshot representation of the actual pdf pages. This is one of the 'good' things about the pdf format, as opposed to the 'bad'.

If you mouse hover over the 'divider' between the left-hand pane tiny renderings of the pages, and the document at large (everything to the right of it), then you can resize the amount of 'render panes' that display the images of the docs. Try it. Sometimes you need to do this for large docs as just having one 'lane' in the left is too restrictive. I like to 'slide' all the way out and have all of them so I can see what I am dealing with.

Then, when you find what you want, you slide it back, and don't forget you can then use the top +/- Automatic Zoom placed at the top of the centre screen to enlarge the doc enough for you to be able to read it.

Another good shortcut is the one in the top right of the pdf screen, if you want to download the doc. It has an arrow. Click it, it downloads.

There is also a printer icon there next to it. Click that, it prints.

With the left-hand pane page view open you can see where there are page gaps and indexes in the document, and where there are large bodies of dense text. Just try it.

You can also see images where they are embedded. Sometimes these are photos as in portraits of people's faces etc, sometimes the images are the text files themselves. It can be confusing. PDF files are very confusing.

Don't forget if you have stuff embedded in them as text (most the time) you just need to <Ctrl-F> and input your text in to the little box that appears at the top or the bottom of your screen. Type in "Kellen" and you will see a certain amount of results pop up. Not in this particular PDF of course because it was saved as image files, but you get the picture. Or not.

OK, super crash course in reading and searching PDF files. Maybe it helped. Just ask if you need further assistance.


To recap:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/...erpts.html

This is the searchable format which is hard to read, but easy to search.


The .pdf version is here: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documen...cerpts.pdf

(easy to read but not to search as this seems to be mostly image files in this instance)


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EDIT:
To be clear with regards to viewing the index in the pdf files - there are several of them, not just one. There is one that starts on page 137 for that section. So search that particular index for that particular section. That's why it's easier to just use the search function in the other document - it works pretty good. I do that myself, then I find the page in the pdf coz it's easier to read.

This is just how these documents are set up. Just a general guide.
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The night Ghislaine Maxwell tried to give me a very public sex lesson: PETRONELLA WYATT recalls an extraordinary encounter with paedophile Jeffrey Epstein's 'pimp'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic...esson.html


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Ghislaine was tall and thin, with broad shoulders and layered hair so black and glossy it was like ravens’ wings. Her complexion was pale and her mouth well-shaped but thin. She wasn’t beautiful, but she had the gift of making you believe she was.

She also had an intense sexuality, an almost androgynous allure.

‘This is Petronella Wyatt,’ she was told. She laughed brightly and said in flattering tones: ‘I’ve heard about you.’

She had the ability to both please and hypnotise.



Yeah, that and the ability to rape children with her strap-on cock. Several allegations there in the old and new docs given out.



Rare 'Maxwell':

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One thing her and Ted Bundy had in common was the ability to 'shape-shift' - to appear like very different people in both person and in photos.

I have no doubt G. Maxwell could spend the rest of her life on the run on super yachts. Or working as the branch manager for your local bank. No one would ever know.


Love the way (((they))) are 'pumping' this story.

Let it die down. Take a new angle. Steer it. Good, good...

Rile them up, burning torches, good...


Fucking jokers. We are but cattle.


I wonder if we'll ever get our day.

More and more now, I think it less likely.

And so do our herders, it would seem.

Hence their mockery towards us.



But still, what sexual tension eh?
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Shaun Attwood posted the video of him going round to G. Maxwell's place in London. The address is in the unredacted little black book I linked to earlier.






If nothing else it proves that this was the place where Prince Andrew put his arm around 'that woman that he did NOT have sex with'. Well, it looks like the same White staircase anyway.

Big nothing burger really.

By this point we are only picking over the remains of a dead corpse.

Still, it's interesting that the 'cleaner' answered the door to the mews.


The landlord in the pub directly across the road sounds a right hoot:






Nothing comes of this.

No one gets punished or disciplined.

But we, the masses, have surely learned our place now.

Impotent cattle to be corralled and expected to fight with each other, when we are prodded.



No one cares anymore. It's over.

Ghislaine Maxwell is probably sleeping with the fishes, whether that is in her concrete boots or piloting her submarine, who knows...

I get the feeling that Nadia M and Sarah K won't be getting any interviews without coffee soon as well.

Another 9 day wonder.

Pretty soon something is gonna come our way to really take our mind off things.

Life will go on.

Except for Jeffrey Epstein.
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(09-17-2019 01:25 PM)sterlingarcher Wrote:  And now it makes sense...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akDKyYaxj4A

So she thought she "was going on a real job interview", at... a room in the Marriott hotel!? tard (0'37 and 1'10)

I guess I've got news for her: genuine job interviews don't take place at night in hotel rooms.

So many greedy women playing victims, decades after their whoring past... in fact, they were discreetly selling their bodies to Epstein and co., so they were complicit, even though they now try to rationalize it. Ugly greedy and conniving people all of them, Epstein and his many whores.
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