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(11-10-2019 09:33 AM)Sosa Wrote:  Powerful words by Jesse Watters here, and I am sure hes fully aware what he's going up against. The American people are not stupid and will not let this story go. They Global Pedo elite cant kill everyone the way the killed Epstein.


After what they did to Hannity when he brought up Seth Rich, I'm not hopeful for Watters.
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(11-10-2019 12:13 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 09:33 AM)Sosa Wrote:  Powerful words by Jesse Watters here, and I am sure hes fully aware what he's going up against. The American people are not stupid and will not let this story go. They Global Pedo elite cant kill everyone the way the killed Epstein.


After what they did to Hannity when he brought up Seth Rich, I'm not hopeful for Watters.

Watters is safe, what he said really amounts to slick gatekeeping, framing this case as that of a serial child rapist, as opposed to a massive pedo sex traffic political blackmail operation run by a foreign spy agency. No mention of the basic nature of this operation or key people like Ghislaine Maxwell (who was Epstein's handler) by either Watters or Robach, just some "safe" sleight of hand gatekeeping.

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Just watched the 60 minutes Austraila documentary on Jeffery Epstein. Most shocking to hear was how these underaged girls were asked to get pregnant, and then sign documents legally giving away the baby to these sickos. I understand these teenage girls were young and abused, but it's indefensible to essentially sacrifice their child to people who are sexually abusing them. Am I missing something here?



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Yeah it's beyond just a normal pimping operation, those babies are groomed for sexual abuse, satanic sacrifice and canibalism. Yes it's that bad, unfathomable evil incarnate.

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Lets stop pretending it's not all connected.

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Heh.
John here claiming he has the footage via software backdoor ports / access...?

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(11-12-2019 05:14 PM)Sosa Wrote:  ... understand these teenage girls were young and abused, but it's indefensible to essentially sacrifice their child to people who are sexually abusing them. Am I missing something here?

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No offence, Sosa, but when I read posts like these (and there are many on the forum) it's hard to escape the sense that I'm viewing the words of someone who's been thoroughly indoctrinated with a progressive girl-power mentality.

Anyone with a means and willingness to use intimidation on young women and teenage girls can make them do what ever they're told easily. Remove those girls from society at large and they are putty in the hands of a sociopath.

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John here claiming he has the footage via software backdoor ports / access...?


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(11-13-2019 08:10 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 05:14 PM)Sosa Wrote:  ... understand these teenage girls were young and abused, but it's indefensible to essentially sacrifice their child to people who are sexually abusing them. Am I missing something here?

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No offence, Sosa, but when I read posts like these (and there are many on the forum) it's hard to escape the sense that I'm viewing the words of someone who's been thoroughly indoctrinated with a progressive girl-power mentality.

Anyone with a means and willingness to use intimidation on young women and teenage girls can make them do what ever they're told easily. Remove those girls from society at large and they are putty in the hands of a sociopath.

In the documentary she states that back then she was not a maternal person, and her "womb was not for sale" (the fact that she mulled this proves she knew this was an immoral act), but it was difficult to say no to these people ....... why was that? Because of money and free travel?

She was not chained in a dungeon or locked up somewhere. She had the option to walk away. Instead she agreed to do this in exchange for a paid education and other financial incentives. This was a pay for play deal, thus she is complicit to whatever evil was done to that innocent child. I would understand if her life was in immediate danger, but that was never the case.

Perhaps she was too young, naive, or even scared not to ask questions of exactly why these scumbags would want her baby, but the bottom line is she made a conscious decision and no one had a gun to her head. Its a simple matter of choosing good or evil, but I guess in today's world even unspeakable acts of evil can be done for the right price.
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Australia's 60 minutes. Not the Boomer nonsense American version.




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(11-13-2019 09:20 PM)Sosa Wrote:  
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(11-12-2019 05:14 PM)Sosa Wrote:  ... understand these teenage girls were young and abused, but it's indefensible to essentially sacrifice their child to people who are sexually abusing them. Am I missing something here?

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No offence, Sosa, but when I read posts like these (and there are many on the forum) it's hard to escape the sense that I'm viewing the words of someone who's been thoroughly indoctrinated with a progressive girl-power mentality.

Anyone with a means and willingness to use intimidation on young women and teenage girls can make them do what ever they're told easily. Remove those girls from society at large and they are putty in the hands of a sociopath.

In the documentary she states that back then she was not a maternal person, and her "womb was not for sale" (the fact that she mulled this proves she knew this was an immoral act), but it was difficult to say no to these people ....... why was that? Because of money and free travel?

She was not chained in a dungeon or locked up somewhere. She had the option to walk away. Instead she agreed to do this in exchange for a paid education and other financial incentives. This was a pay for play deal, thus she is complicit to whatever evil was done to that innocent child. I would understand if her life was in immediate danger, but that was never the case.

Perhaps she was too young, naive, or even scared not to ask questions of exactly why these scumbags would want her baby, but the bottom line is she made a conscious decision and no one had a gun to her head. Its a simple matter of choosing good or evil, but I guess in today's world even unspeakable acts of evil can be done for the right price.

If that's the case then I apologise for my generalisation. That would indeed be legitimately evil.

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Oops sorry thought I looked a page back and didn't see it Undecided

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Not Epstein related, yet I'm not going to start a whole new thread & in relation to lack of media coverage of child molesters :


'Why don't you go chase some paedophiles?' Notorious Rebels bikie who boasted about bashing a child sex offender at a police watch house lashes out at media as he skips court

Rebel bikie posted video of himself allegedly attacking another prisoner
He allegedly approached child sex offender Hamzeh Bahrami in a shower stall
The bikie 'repeatedly punched him' before being pepper sprayed by an officer
The 26-year-old did not appear in court but was seen outside the building


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Prince Andrew: I didn’t have sex with teenager, I was at home after pizza party


Quote:The Duke of York claimed on Saturday night that he could not have had sex with a teenage girl in the London home of British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell because he was at home after attending a children’s party at Pizza Express in Woking.

Prince Andrew gave the startling explanation in a bombshell interview with Emily Maitlis for BBC’s Newsnight in which he was grilled about his relationship with the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, who has been exposed as a paedophile.

In a sometimes rambling and contradictory account of their friendship, which drew accusations of arrogance from viewers, the prince insisted he had not had sex with any women trafficked by Epstein in any of his properties. He confirmed that he had flown on Epstein’s now notorious jet, nicknamed the Lolita Express, and stayed on his private island and at his home in Palm Beach, as well as at his New York mansion.

“If you’re a man it is a positive act to have sex with somebody,” the prince explained. “You have to … take some sort of positive action and so therefore if you try to forget it’s very difficult to try and forget a positive action and I do not remember anything.”


Referring to Epstein, who took his own life in his prison cell in August while facing charges of abusing dozens of underage girls, the prince said: “Do I regret the fact that he has quite obviously conducted himself in a manner unbecoming? Yes.”

Asked if he had sex with Virginia Giuffre, formerly known as Virginia Roberts, when she was 17, the prince categorically denied it ever happened.

Roberts has said that they partied at Tramp nightclub in London on 10 March 2001, before going back to Maxwell’s Belgravia house where she claims she had sex with Andrew.

The prince said: “I was with the children and I’d taken Beatrice to a Pizza Express in Woking for a party at I suppose four or five in the afternoon. And then because the duchess [Sarah Ferguson] was away, we have a simple rule in the family that when one is away the other is there.”

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A photograph of the prince with his arm around Roberts’s waist has been widely circulated, but the prince repeatedly said in his Newsnight interview he had “no recollection of that photograph ever being taken”. He said the picture appeared to have been taken upstairs in Maxwell’s house, somewhere “I don’t think I ever went”. He suggested that, as a member of the royal family, he was “not one to, as it were, hug, and public displays of affection are not something that I do.” Photographs of the prince in embraces with various women swiftly emerged on Twitter.

On Saturday Giuffre retweeted several disparaging tweets about the prince including one that read: “Prince Andrew’s shocking interview was an attempt to save his reputation – but it just raised more questions.”

He explained that the reason why he hadn’t noticed young girls at Epstein’s house was that, as a member of the royal family, he was used to “members of staff walking around all the time” and so hadn’t interacted in a meaningful way with anyone he considered to be staff. Yet earlier he said that there had been “absolutely no indication” of anything untoward, and claimed his connection with the NSPCC meant “I knew what the things were to look for but I never saw them”.

He confirmed that Epstein had been a guest at Windsor and Sandringham and that he attended a dinner celebrating the financier’s release from prison. An arrest warrant was issued for Epstein in May 2006, for sexual assault of a minor. The prince confirmed that he invited Epstein to Princess Beatrice’s 18th birthday the following July and was unaware that the warrant had been issued.

In 2010, the prince was photographed walking with Epstein in New York’s Central Park – two years after Epstein’s first conviction for soliciting a minor for prostitution. When it was pointed out during the interview that he was staying at the house of a “convicted sex offender”, he said: “It was a convenient place to stay... At the end of the day, with the benefit of all the hindsight one can have, it was definitely the wrong thing to do. But at the time, I felt it was the honourable and right thing to do. And I admit fully that my judgment was probably coloured by my tendency to be too honourable but that is just the way it is.”

The prince said he went to the US to tell Epstein they could no longer see each other, as “doing it over the telephone was the chicken’s way”. Of claims that witnesses saw young girls entering Epstein’s mansion, he said: “His house, I described it … almost as a railway station … there were people coming in and out... all the time.”

He appeared to be open to giving a statement under oath: “If push came to shove and the legal advice was to do so, then I would be duty bound to do so.”

Before the broadcast, Gloria Allred, a lawyer acting for a number of Epstein’s victims, said: “Rather than just going on television he, I think, would be well served to just say I’m willing to take the oath and appear at a deposition.”

The prince said that his association with the financier had hurt his family and his daughters, saying “it has been a constant sore in the family”.

High-stakes gamble on TV interview over Epstein backfires on Duke of York

Quote:If, as many royal observers have claimed, the Duke of York’s decision to submit himself to an Emily Maitlis grilling represented a colossal gamble by a man desperate to make the flow of negative headlines dry up, then it appears he has bet the house on red only for it to come up black.

Prince Andrew’s bizarre defence that he chose to stay at convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s home because it was “convenient” and “honourable” has gone down badly in the court of public opinion.

And now his defence of their relationship and his explanations for where he was on key dates when he is alleged to have had sex with women procured by Epstein has met similar derision.

The prince was confronted about his relationship with the financier: why did he visit him in New York in 2010, despite knowing Epstein had been convicted of sex offences against underage girls? Did he know Epstein was still committing offences against children then? And had he himself had sex at several of Epstein’s houses with Virginia Giuffre, then known as Virginia Roberts, when she was 17? She claims in court papers she was trafficked and forced to have sex with the prince.


He seemed unconcerned by the seriousness of the matter, laughing and smiling at several points during the interview – including when Maitlis reminded him that Epstein was dead – and expressed no regrets or concern about Epstein’s victims.

No, the duke said repeatedly, he had not slept with Roberts. “I have no recollection of ever meeting this lady, none whatsoever.”

He later added: “It just never happened”, saying: “I am not one to, as it were, hug, and public displays of affection are not something that I do.”

His relationship with Epstein was based entirely on the fact that he was the boyfriend of the prince’s university friend Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of the late newspaper tycoon Robert Maxwell. Epstein was “a plus one” who was invited to various royal events. It had been “beneficial” to know him, he told Maitlis, in one of several exchanges that provoked astonishment from viewers.


She asked if he felt any “guilt, regret or shame” about his behaviour or friendship with Epstein.

The prince did not. He said only that it was “the wrong decision to go and see him in 2010”. He went on: “Do I regret the fact that he has quite obviously conducted himself in a manner unbecoming? Yes...”


Maitlis interrupted, with visible amazement: “Unbecoming? He was a sex offender.”

“Yeah, I’m sorry, I’m being polite – I mean in the sense that he was a sex offender,” the prince replied, before continuing his justification for remaining in contact with Epstein until 2010.

The prince insisted that, as patron of the NSPCC’s Full Stop campaign, he “knew what the things were to look for” when it came to sexual abuse. But later in the interview, when asked about his time in Epstein’s properties, he said there was “absolutely no indication” that anything was going on. Epstein must have concealed his activities, the prince explained, and suggested that his status as a member of the royal family meant he was used to “members of staff” being around the building.

The prince’s answers are likely to ensure he remains in the headlines for the conceivable future, and several commentators have condemned his approach. Catherine Mayer, founder of the Women’s Equality Party, tweeted that the prince was “too stupid to even pretend concern for Epstein’s victims”.

Charlie Proctor, editor of the Royal Central website, said: “I expected a train wreck. That was a plane crashing into an oil tanker, causing a tsunami, triggering a nuclear explosion level bad.”


It is known that some close to the prince had reservations about how the interview – reportedly the result of six months of negotiations with the royal household – would play out.

Jason Stein, who previously worked for the former work and pensions secretary Amber Rudd, recently quit as an adviser to the prince after less than a month. It is understood he had disagreed with the decision to go ahead with the interview. It is claimed that the prince sought permission from the Queen before giving it, and that she gave her consent early last week.

In the interview, the prince said that with “hindsight” his decision to stay at Epstein’s house was “definitely the wrong thing to do”.

Giuffre’s lawyers did not respond to requests for comment but her Twitter account retweeted a comment from the former editor of the Northern Echo, Peter Barron, who said: “Astonishing decision by the royal family to go ahead with this Prince Andrew confessional interview in the hope it would draw a line under the scandal. It will have the opposite effect.”

It is the first time the prince has answered questions on his relationship with Epstein, who was found dead in his Manhattan jail cell in August. In 2015, Prince Andrew used a public appearance at Davos in Switzerland to deny the claims. In 2010, he had been photographed walking with Epstein in New York’s Central Park – two years after Epstein’s first conviction for soliciting a minor for prostitution.

Addressing his decision to stay with Epstein following the financier’s conviction in 2008, the prince said: “That’s the bit that … as it were, I kick myself for on a daily basis because it was not something that was becoming of a member of the royal family, and we try and uphold the highest standards and practices and I let the side down, simple as that.”

The prince denied his relationship with Epstein had damaged the monarch. “I don’t believe it’s been damaging to the Queen at all – it has to me, and it’s been a constant drip, if you see what I mean.”

Giuffre’s lawyer, Jack Scarola, told Mail Online the prince should agree to an interview “under oath” instead of giving statements to the media that carry “little weight”.

He said: “I believe there is an ongoing investigation in New York by the FBI under the supervision of the US Attorney’s office into those involved in facilitating Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse.

“I would love to see Prince Andrew submit to an interview under oath with the investigating authorities. Talking to the media doesn’t quite cut it. Statements that are not under oath carry little weight.”
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