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UK Camgirl Dies on Camera - Client Commits Suicide Before He Was Charged
Hope Barden: Sex role-play death prompts law change plea

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Quote:The sister of an adult online performer who died during a sexual role play game gone wrong has called for strict new webcamming pornography laws.

Hope Barden, 21, was found asphyxiated after carrying out a degrading sex act on the internet for a pub landlord over 250 miles away.

A coroner ruled she was unlawfully killed and Hope's mother said she was "left to die".


Hope's sister Lily has called for new regulations to prevent more deaths.

Hope was found dead in Burton-upon-Trent after filming herself "for the purposes of sexual gratification" for a "reckless" online voyeur, Staffordshire coroner Andrew Haigh said.

"The extent of his encouragement to her to carry out this act and his failure to report appropriately when she lost consciousness makes it clear that the male was so subjectively reckless as to amount to manslaughter," Mr Haigh ruled in Hope's inquest last week.

Staffordshire Police said Jerome Dangar, 45, from Tintagel, Cornwall, was online when Hope died, but made no attempt to raise the alarm.


It is understood a file was being prepared by police for submission to the Crown Prosecution Service to consider charging him with Hope's manslaughter.

Police and her family said this would have been a landmark legal first in the UK - but were denied justice when Dangar was found dead at HMP Dartmoor in April.

How did Hope get embroiled in webcamming?

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Cornish-born Hope was an adrenaline junkie who completed a skydive and adored her family and friends.

She completed her foundation degree in adolescent mental health at the University of Worcester and became a support worker for people with learning disabilities in Burton.

But in a bid to supplement her income, she began working in the "unregulated" online adult film industry and used several adult webcamming platforms, her sister said. She soon became acquainted with Dangar.

"It started when Hope was still living down here in Penzance.

"It's not a joke, but the things he (Dangar) was saying we were laughing at.

"I know he was asking her to blow fag smoke down the camera and paid her £50 for that, which is bizarre.

"Then he was asking for very random and extreme things. He was giving her thousands of pounds and she liked designer clothes.

"They weren't in an online relationship. It was the money and I think it just escalated too quickly.

"She didn't mean to hang herself and she had no mental health issues. It was a terrible accident, which that sick man didn't report."


Who was online sexual predator Dangar?

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The middle-aged publican ran the King Arthur's Arms in the small civil parish and village of Tintagel in north Cornwall.

Hope and Dangar were strangers until they met over an adult online platform, with the pair swapping a series of messages.

He was a regular user of an adult internet site and paid Hope £2,300 to perform sexual acts over three months, according to financial records checked by police.

Her family said it escalated into "degrading and dangerous situations" until her death on 15 March 2018.

Dangar's phone was seized two months later and he was arrested following a police raid on the pub in November.

He admitted nine charges of possessing extreme pornography of acts that showed a "pre-occupation with strangulation, stabbing, torture, asphyxiation and death".

Dangar was jailed for 15 months for possessing "the worst images it is possible to imagine".

Police were due to interview him over his involvement in Hope's death, but Dangar was found dead in jail and never faced further charges.

What is the law on streaming online pornography?

The government's Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) said certain online adult content should not be permitted under "extreme pornography" laws falling within the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008.

Violent, obscene acts that are non-consensual or involve other criminal activity would be investigated by the law enforcement agencies, DCMS said.

"Pornography streamed online in the UK is subject to the same rules as that which is sold in shops. Extreme pornography depicting violence against women is not permitted online or offline," a DCMS spokeswoman said.

The DCMS and the Home Office have proposed a UK statutory duty of care called "Online Harms" to make companies take responsibility for the safety of their users and tackle harm caused by content or activity on their services.

Obscenity lawyer Myles Jackman said the concept of webcamming was a "growing phenomenon", but - as yet - there was "no specific law" related directly to govern it.

Adultwork.com - an adult advertising platform - said it had 7,000 UK-based webcam girls and internal moderator teams who policed content.

One of its membership rules states performers must not upload text, audio, images or movies that contain "sadomasochistic material which goes beyond trifling and transient infliction of injury".

What would 'Hope's Law' involve?

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Hope's sister Lily said there needs to be specific guidelines in the online sex industry where the performer and the punter clearly understand what is and is not acceptable by law.

"The main thing that isn't acceptable is being able to watch someone (potentially) die on webcam and then not do anything about it," she said.

"What isn't acceptable is putting something around your neck which potentially could kill you and leave family and friends devastated and broken."


She said Dangar had a "duty of care" by contacting the emergency services when Hope became incapacitated, which could have saved her sister's life.

"He (Dangar) thrives off stuff like this. He wanted her to do this and it went terribly wrong," she said. "It was going to be a landmark case."

University student Lily, from Penzance, is also seeking a legal online contract between the webcam performer and consumer for a clear code of conduct.

"If there's anything positive that can come out of this ridiculous situation it's that young girls should be sensible and think about people you are going to hurt from your actions or just don't do it," she said.

"But I feel there should be some sort of electronic contract between the performer and the person paying or watching that they both understand - like a terms and conditions.

"If the performer is agreeing and contracted with whatever it is then they know what they're doing, and the guys or girls who are watching know what they are getting themselves into as well.

"That way there's no wires crossed."


What do charities have to say?

Two anti-violence against women organisations said tight regulations would reduce "risks" of webcam performers putting themselves in danger.

Rachel Krys, a co-director of End Violence Against Women Coalition, said Hope's death was an "appalling and preventable tragedy".

"This reveals the very serious risks women and girls are exposed to by the unregulated and dangerous industries of pornography and online prostitution," she said.

"Hope was failed by ways online forms of prostitution such as webcamming can be promoted as a safe and convenient way to earn money - which ignores the very real risks involved.

"The terrible truth is women and girls' lives are being put at risk every day as we don't have a proper system of laws and regulation to address these activities."

Karen Ingala Smith said Hope died over one man's desire to see "women degraded and vulnerable, close to death, dying or dead, for sexual gratification".

"More and more men get their kicks from women's pain and humiliation," said Ms Ingala Smith, chief executive of Nia, which supports women subjected to sexual and domestic violence.

"The law must stop allowing the insult to women that they were accidental victims, when in reality men chose women's pain as their route to orgasm.

"The law needs to catch up with the realities of how men use pornography."

'You have to be mentally strong'

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Bex Shiner, a 32-year-old glamour model from Coventry who performs via webcam, said she had received a number of requests to suffocate herself online.

The former Big Brother star, who makes up to £5,000 per month from cam work, has also called for a safeguarding policy and background checks for performers to be introduced.

"I've had a number of disgusting offers but I've said 'no' and blocked the person and reported them (to the host server)," she said.

"You have to be mentally strong and prepared or you could get taken advantage of. You should never put yourself in dangerous situations.

"I think there should be safeguarding measures put in place, especially for young and potentially vulnerable women coming into the industry."

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Belongs in the Clown World thread
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It's a shame she was taken by her stupidity before she had a chance to repent. The man will still have a chance to understand and accept the error of his ways but he should do it from behind bars, where all degenerates belong. The owners and proprietors of the cam site should be hanged in accordance with laws fashioned for such purposes. The people calling for "safer camwhoring" should be marginalized from society or perhaps exiled to extract cancerous cells from the nation.

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I assume these camgirls are contractors just like strippers, in order to minimize regulatory burdens. I don't think regulating between the punter and the cam girl via a contract will do much or anything. I'm pretty sure part of the appeal of camgirling is the fact that the income is opaque (could be wrong here). Was this autoerrotic asphyxiation? yeah I think it was. What's gonna stop camgirls from taking the extra payout of doing these more extreme sex-acts. It's all about incentives. They get way more cash for doing one of these acts than something more vanilla. Unfortunately I suspect that people's sexual proclivities are getting more and more extreme due to internet pornography.

It is also bizarre to me that the publican could be tried for this (possibly). In the US, there is generally no duty to rescue, render aid, whatever you want to call it. I did not think that you're obliged to help under common law systems, like the UK.
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Without any threats, he tells a girl to choke herself.
Without coercion, she chokes herself and dies.
???
He's guilty of manslaughter.

Then he's vilified and jailed until he commits suicide.
Who's guilty of his death?
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In a non clown world she would be scrutinized for doing that kind of work, but in the clown world she's portrayed as a victim, as if she was forced to indulge to perverted fantasies of strangers online. When the simple fact is that she was a whore degrading herself for a quick buck.
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(07-08-2019 01:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The man will still have a chance to understand and accept the error of his ways but he should do it from behind bars, where all degenerates belong.

Nah he wont.

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Not only that, but the tragic death is being used to push for more laws on MEN and more surveillance by big Gov. to the cheering of the same whores and their enablers.

What if Belle Delphine drowned in her own bathwater that she is selling , would her thirsty betas be charged with a crime and she portrayed as a victim?

As I said, clown world.
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Of course they found a way to blame the man for this stupid fucking sluts own stupid fucking actions.

ZERO FUCKS GIVEN about this dumb cunt.

New law? Yeah - ban women from being sexcam whores.

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OP what do you think of this?
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She's an idiot. He's a POS for not helping/the stuff they found on his computer. No real loss here either way.
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Quote:It is understood a file was being prepared by police for submission to the Crown Prosecution Service to consider charging him with Hope's manslaughter.

This is all you need to know about Britain.

Where whores and women get away with shit and the only person who doesn't give a flying fuck about which gender you are is death.

So by this precedent all people who view BDSM, torture porn, porn outtake videos showing the actresses in pain and crying or melting down are all susceptible by merely viewing this material.

I would guess they can make the link between those videos showing murder and the people watching it as a supply and demand.

Nothing is beyond the cucked system in the UK! Unless you have a lot of money and fame ofcourse.
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Society : promotes Darwinism & natural selection to the nth degree.

Also society : makes a fuss when Darwinism & natural selection is made manifest into real life...
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(wrong thread.)

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I really wish people didnt take the bait to promote bath girl across multiple platforms. She probably found another 10k willing cucks to shower her and her BF with free $$. The more these degenerates are promoted the more people that take it up and normalise it.
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(07-08-2019 12:23 AM)WalterBlack Wrote:  
Quote:Cornish-born Hope was an adrenaline junkie who completed a skydive and adored her family and friends.

She completed her foundation degree in adolescent mental health at the University of Worcester and became a support worker for people with learning disabilities in Burton.

Adrenaline junkie because she completed 1 skydive.

Shows the caliber of women with mental health degrees. They're all crazy.

Also, I guarantee her sister is on webcam by the end of the summer. She'll probably use this article as promotion.
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(07-08-2019 12:16 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  I really wish people didnt take the bait to promote bath girl across multiple platforms. She probably found another 10k willing cucks to shower her and her BF with free $$. The more these degenerates are promoted the more people that take it up and normalise it.

Confused two women in the UK that have both been getting a lot of attention lately.
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(07-08-2019 12:46 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  
(07-08-2019 12:23 AM)WalterBlack Wrote:  
Quote:Cornish-born Hope was an adrenaline junkie who completed a skydive and adored her family and friends.

Adrenaline junkie because she completed 1 skydive.

It's pure spin - they need to find an excuse for her sordid behavior and also paint her as the victim with the same brush.

She accepted the challenge from the evil, white, pervert male... not for cash because she was a whore but because she was an adrenaline junkie! A fearless, independent, go-getting free-spirited Red Bull type adventurer! She's up for a challenge! Loved by everyone, friends and family...

But then, this MONSTER watched her as she died and did NOTHING!

(Such as?)

"I need an ambulance, quick!!"

"Calm down sir? What's happening?"

"A girl! A girl is choking to death! Come quickly!"

"Where is she sir?"

"On my computer screen!"

"What?"

"Yes! A webcam girl!"

"Do you have her address sir?"

"No, of course not"

"What's her name Sir?"

"Umm... it says, "RandySlut2000" Huh "

"So you don't know her name or where she is?"

"No! I don't even know which country she's even in!"

"Well sir, I'm going to have to report this to the police because obviously it's YOUR fault that she chose of her own free will to strangle herself to death. Don't you know girls are only responsible for themselves when it suits them?"

"Oh right. I'd better end my own life then."

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How would one even report a camwhore strangling herself? They typically don't reveal where they live beyond the country.

"Hello, is this the British consulate? I'd like to report one of your sex workers strangling herself on cam. I mean, I think she's British based on the accent..."
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^^^^
Hello Columbia? A girl just shoved 2 pounds of potting soil in her naughty place. She's not looking so good.

Her sister, Lily, insists he could have done something. Maybe, with all the money he was spending, he had her real name and number?
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(07-08-2019 10:34 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  ^^^^
Hello Columbia? A girl just shoved 2 pounds of potting soil in her naughty place. She's not looking so good.

Her sister, Lily, insists he could have done something. Maybe, with all the money he was spending, he had her real name and number?

Exactly. What could he have done when he saw she was in distress? Call 911 (999 I guess in the UK)? He supposedly doesn't know who/where she is. It's supposed to be anonymous, no?
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Some thoughts in >>italics<< below..

(07-08-2019 12:23 AM)WalterBlack Wrote:  Hope Barden: Sex role-play death prompts law change plea

Hope Barden, 21, was found asphyxiated after carrying out a degrading sex act on the internet for a pub landlord over 250 miles away.

A coroner ruled she was unlawfully killed and Hope's mother said she was "left to die".


>>>>BV: How the fuck was she unlawfully killed? She did it to herself.<<<<<

Hope's sister Lily has [b]called for new regulations to prevent more deaths.[/b]

>>>BV: Sure. <<<<

Hope was found dead in Burton-upon-Trent after filming herself "for the purposes of sexual gratification" for a "reckless" online voyeur, Staffordshire coroner Andrew Haigh said.

"The extent of his encouragement to her to carry out this act and [b]his failure to report appropriately when she lost consciousness makes it clear that the male was so subjectively reckless as to amount to manslaughter,"
Mr Haigh ruled in Hope's inquest last week.

>>>> BV: Fuck, fuck the fuck off..<<<<<

Staffordshire Police said Jerome Dangar, 45, from Tintagel, Cornwall, was online when Hope died, but made no attempt to raise the alarm.[/b]

>>>> BV: Yeah how was he supposed to report it? Maybe he should have tried but it seems to me they are just looking for a villain here..<<<<

It is understood a file was being prepared by police for submission to the Crown Prosecution Service to consider charging him with Hope's manslaughter.

Police and her family said this would have been a landmark legal first in the UK - but were denied justice when Dangar was found dead at HMP Dartmoor in April.

How did Hope get embroiled in webcamming?

>>>>BV: Heeeeere we go.. Embroiled! She's an SJW loser that the left and modern society has created.<<<<

Cornish-born Hope was an adrenaline junkie who completed a skydive and adored her family and friends.

>>>>> BV: journalist speak for 'we have nothing to go on..' she was adored.. probably.<<<<<<

She completed her foundation degree in adolescent mental health at the University of Worcester and became a support worker for people with learning disabilities in Burton.

>>>>>>BV: SJW going nowhere.. mind you she was only 21. Hard to come up with much of a picture at that age.<<<<<<

But in a bid to supplement her income, she began working in the "unregulated" online adult film industry and used several adult webcamming platforms, her sister said. She soon became acquainted with Dangar.

"It started when Hope was still living down here in Penzance.

[b]"It's not a joke, but the things he (Dangar) was saying we were laughing at.

"I know he was asking her to blow fag smoke down the camera and paid her £50 for that, which is bizarre
.


>>>>BV: it was all fun and we all enjoyed it.<<<<<

"Then he was asking for very random and extreme things. He was giving her thousands of pounds and she liked designer clothes.

>>>>BV: Greed? Who was exploiting who here?<<<<<

"They weren't in an online relationship. It was the money and I think it just escalated too quickly.

"She didn't mean to hang herself and she had no mental health issues. It was a terrible accident, which that sick man didn't report."[/b]

Who was online sexual predator Dangar?

[Image: _105091333_dangarjpg.jpg]

The middle-aged publican ran the King Arthur's Arms in the small civil parish and village of Tintagel in north Cornwall.

Hope and Dangar were strangers until they met over an adult online platform, with the pair swapping a series of messages.

He was a regular user of an adult internet site and [b]paid Hope £2,300 to perform sexual acts over three months, according to financial records checked by police.


>>>>BV: he paid her a lot of money for fuck all basically.<<<<

Her family said it escalated into "degrading and dangerous situations" until her death on 15 March 2018.

Dangar's phone was seized two months later and he was arrested following a police raid on the pub in November.

He admitted nine charges of possessing extreme pornography of acts that showed a "pre-occupation with strangulation, stabbing, torture, asphyxiation and death".

Dangar was jailed for 15 months for possessing "the worst images it is possible to imagine".

>>>>BV: GUARANTEE YOU that it was the same website images from Gore .com etc that lots of people look at<<<<<<

Police were due to interview him over his involvement in Hope's death, but Dangar was found dead in jail and never faced further charges.
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The government's Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) said certain online adult content should not be permitted under "extreme pornography" laws falling within the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008.

Violent, obscene acts that are non-consensual or involve other criminal activity would be investigated by the law enforcement agencies, DCMS said.

>>>>>BV: what was going on up until that point wasn't criminal..<<<<<<

"Pornography streamed online in the UK is subject to the same rules as that which is sold in shops. Extreme pornography depicting violence against women is not permitted online or offline," a DCMS spokeswoman said.

The DCMS and the Home Office have proposed a UK statutory duty of care called "Online Harms" to make companies take responsibility for the safety of their users and tackle harm caused by content or activity on their services.

Adultwork.com - an adult advertising platform - said it had 7,000 UK-based webcam girls and internal moderator teams who policed content.

>>>One of its membership rules states performers must not upload text, audio, images or movies that contain "sadomasochistic material which goes beyond trifling and transient infliction of injury".<<<<

>>>>>BV: ^There you go..<<<<

University student Lily, from Penzance, is also seeking a legal online contract between the webcam performer and consumer for a clear code of conduct.

"If there's anything positive that can come out of this ridiculous situation it's that young girls should be sensible and think about people you are going to hurt from your actions or just don't do it," she said.

>>>>>>BV: that's a nice bland sentiment you got there.<<<<

"But I feel there should be some sort of electronic contract between the performer and the person paying or watching that they both understand - like a terms and conditions.

"If the performer is agreeing and contracted with whatever it is then they know what they're doing, and the guys or girls who are watching know what they are getting themselves into as well.


>>>>>BV: Well thats gonna stop it all then..<<<<<

What do charities have to say?

Two anti-violence against women organisations said tight regulations would reduce "risks" of webcam performers putting themselves in danger.

Rachel Krys, a co-director of End Violence Against Women Coalition, said Hope's death was an "appalling and preventable tragedy".

"This reveals the very serious risks women and girls are exposed to by the unregulated and dangerous industries of pornography and online prostitution," she said.

"Hope was failed by ways online forms of prostitution such as webcamming can be promoted as a safe and convenient way to earn money - which ignores the very real risks involved.

"The terrible truth is women and girls' lives are being put at risk every day as we don't have a proper system of laws and regulation to address these activities."

>>>>>>BV: Do the women involved - there's no girls here - do the woman involved have any agency or responsibility? At all? <<<<<

>>Karen Ingala Smith said Hope died over one man's desire to see "women degraded and vulnerable, close to death, dying or dead, for sexual gratification".

"More and more men get their kicks from women's pain and humiliation," said Ms Ingala Smith, chief executive of Nia, which supports women subjected to sexual and domestic violence.<<<


>>>>>>BV: statistics please? Or is this feminist projection because, in truth, more and more women get their kicks from men's pain and humiliation,<<<<<


"The law must stop allowing the insult to women that they were accidental victims, when in reality men chose women's pain as their route to orgasm.


>>>>>BV: fucking what? What about all the female dommes and dominatrixes out there - are they gonna face the law?<<<<

"The law needs to catch up with the realities of how men use pornography."

>>>>>BV: what? No it doesn't.<<<<<<

Bex Shiner, a 32-year-old glamour model from Coventry who performs via webcam, said she had received a number of requests to suffocate herself online.

The former Big Brother star, who makes up to £5,000 per month from cam work, has also called for a safeguarding policy and background checks for performers to be introduced.

"I think there should be safeguarding measures put in place, especially for young and potentially vulnerable women coming into the industry."

>>>>>BV: Not sure she even said this rather than was given the quote as a question to agree with.. But.. Safeguarding!!! fuck me that is a rabbit hole with no end in sight. You can never safeguard snowflakes enough.<<<<<<

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